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How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:13 pm

Thought I would share this great video.

Have you ever wondered the effort that goes into crossing the Atlantic ocean in an airliner? There's many procedures involved. Join de Vries as he captains a Boeing 777-200ER to JFK to better your understanding of what goes on while you're watching a movie and enjoying a meal thousands of feet above the ocean. Enjoy!

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=982_1423061141#AKDBQE40ieSgQ5vF.99

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=982_1423061141

[Edited 2015-02-07 15:14:33]
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:25 pm

Very nicely presented. Thanks for posting this.
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:03 am

Fascinating.

The ELT beacon was interesting.
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:33 am

Very nicely presented.
Thanks for you.
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:54 am

Nice video, is the same true for TransPac routing? I just flew KE ICN-LAX and since the West Coast (and continental destinations beyond) airports are so spread out, I don't think there is a NAT system for the Pacific, or is there? We screamed eastbound thanks to wind at 1200 kph at one point coming off Japan, but a very "flat" track, far from the great circle.
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:56 am

Quoting timpdx (Reply 4):
I don't think there is a NAT system for the Pacific, or is there?

There is a track system for the Pacific, yes.

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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:39 am

Interesting video, it's amazing that with all the traffic over the Atlantic there aren't more problems keeping the planes apart from one another.

My slightly off question relates to the windshield wipers on the plane, which were operating in the video as the 777 came in to JFK. I would think with the speed these planes travel that the wipers would be blown off the plane. How is it that they manage to stay in place?
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:37 am

An excellent video.

The wipers would come off if they were activated while the plane was moving too quickly. When this aircraft received landing clearance, it was indicating 187 knots, give or take. A very good sports car can go that fast.

When I dispatch aircraft, occasionally we'll have a wiper system deferred. The deferral states that if the wiper is not completely stowed, as it would be in cruise flight, the plane cannot exceed 250 knots (indicated airspeed). That's because, as you infer, if the wiper was sticking up into the air stream at, say, 310 knots, it might come loose, which - especially on a plane with rear-mounted engines - might send it into the engines. In any case, I'm sure the wipers are designed to stay firmly attached at a gentle 180 knots or so.
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:02 am

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 6):
My slightly off question relates to the windshield wipers on the plane, which were operating in the video as the 777 came in to JFK. I would think with the speed these planes travel that the wipers would be blown off the plane. How is it that they manage to stay in place?

The wipers don't get blown off a Veyron at 240 MPH. They stow the wipers at speed.
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:47 am

3 long videos of KLM flights, incl this one, are here:

http://www.jetstreamtv.net


Enjoy
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:57 pm

Why always the same horrible 'music' on these things? Is silence that bad??
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:13 pm

Hey there 747-600X and N1120A, thanks for the wiper info! It's these little questions that intrigue me. I guess you also don't need windshield wipers when cruising at 36,000 ft either.
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:14 pm

AC has a nice video YYZ-YUL-BRU-FRA using A333

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUXCteAWPos
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:02 pm

Why is a KLM Asia plane flying to JFK? Aren't those planes used for the routes to Taiwan?
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:27 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 13):
Why is a KLM Asia plane flying to JFK? Aren't those planes used for the routes to Taiwan?

Not always. I see them all the time at LAX. I think its just a throwback thing to when KLM Asia was actually something that was prominent.
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:39 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 13):

Why is a KLM Asia plane flying to JFK? Aren't those planes used for the routes to Taiwan

Those KLM asia birds can go anywhere, ORD seems them all the time. I think the whole tawain rule has been lifted and they just have not got around to repainting them to get rid of the "Asia"


Great video OP
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:22 pm

Quoting Anrigu (Reply 10):
Why always the same horrible 'music' on these things? Is silence that bad??

I had the exact same thought ... the music was louder than the pilots' words at time and really detracted from the video.
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:23 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 13):
Why is a KLM Asia plane flying to JFK? Aren't those planes used for the routes to Taiwan?

They're used all over KL's network. I've flown KLM Asia 744 combis twice AMS-MEX.
 
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RE: How A Commercial Airliner Crosses The Atlantic

Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:54 pm

Great video (and several others on jetstreamtv) - thanks for sharing! I'd love to see more high quality videos with this level of detail.
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