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Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:01 pm

Fellow A.netters,

This list is my first bigger "research" post on this page so have mercy on me in case of mistakes, a discussion is welcome anyway.

The question which state is "visually" dominated by which carrier has been occupying myself for a while so I finally decided to take a closer look at it.

I did not find any similar threads searching the forum but I know the search engine doesn't always fulfil its purpose quite well, so should this already exist in some way, consider my post an updated version or delete it if necessary. I won't take it personal  

So now the criteria I chose: I would decide "strongest presence" by the NUMBER OF AIRPORTS an airline currently flies into in a state (lower 48) - the carrier which has most, wins the state in a "winner takes it all"-way, like the US presidential elections. I will for every state name the winning carrier as well as listing the destinations.
I do count regional subsidiaries into an airline (Eagle = AA; Delta Connection = DL; UAX = UA; US Express = US) but I will not count EAS carriers as long as they don't operate under the brand of a major carrier, otherwise the results would be somewhat falsified as I count only the number of airports and not passenger numbers. At the end of the table I will upload a map with every state colored according to its predominant carrier.

As I wrote above, if there are any criticisms or i.e. airports I forgot to count, feel free to correct me.
Enjoy!

ALABAMA > * DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection*

MGM Montgomery
MOB Mobile
HSV Huntsville
DHN Dothan
BHM Birmingham-Shuttlesworth

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ARIZONA > * US US Airways/US Airways Express *

YUM Yuma
TUS Tucson
PHX Phoenix Sky Harbor
FLG Flagstaff

-

ARKANSAS > * AA American Airlines/American Eagle *

TXK Texarkana
LIT Little Rock
FSM Fort Smith
XNA Fayetteville / Northwest AR

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CALIFORNIA > * UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

SMX Santa Maria
SBA Santa Barbara
SNA Santa Ana / Orange Co.
SBP San Luis Obispo
SJC San José
SFO San Francisco
SAN San Diego
SMF Sacramento
RDD Redding
PSP Palm Springs
ONT Ontario
MRY Monterrey
MMH Mammoth / Yosemite
LAX Los Angeles
FAT Fresno
CEC Crescent City
CLD Palomar
BUR Burbank
BFL Bakersfield
ACV Arcata-Eureka

-

COLORADO > * UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

PUB Pueblo
MTJ Montrose
HDN Hayden
GUC Crested Butte
GJT Grand Junction
EGE Eagle County / Vail
DRO Durango
DEN Denver
COS Colorado Springs
ASE Aspen

-

CONNECTICUT > * US US Airways/US Airways Express *

HVN New Haven
BDL Windsor Locks

-

DELAWARE > * F9 Frontier Airlines *

ILG Wilmington DE

-

FLORIDA > * DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection * [very closely followed by US with just 1 destination short]

PBI Palm Beach
VPS Valparaiso
TPA Tampa
TLH Tallahassee
SRQ Sarasota
PNS Pensacola
ECP Northwest Florida
MCO Orlando McCoy
MIA Miami
MLB Melbourne
EYW Key West
JAX Jacksonville
GNV Gainesville
RSW Fort Myers
FLL Fort Lauderdale
DAB Daytona Beach

-

GEORGIA > * DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection *

VLD Valdosta
SAV Savannah
CSG Columbus GA
BQK Brunswick
AGS Augusta
ATL Atlanta
ABY Southwest Georgia

-

IDAHO > * DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection *

TWF Twin Falls
PIH Pocatello
LWS Lewiston
IDA Idaho Falls
SUN Friedman
BOI Boise

-

ILLINOIS > * TIED in numbers between G4 Allegiant Air and AA American Airlines/American Eagle *

G4 Destinations:
BLV Saint Louis / MidAmerica
BMI Bloomington
MLI Moline
PIA Peoria
RFD Rockford / Chicago
SPI Springfield IL

AA Destinations
BMI Bloomington
CMI University of IL
ORD Chicago-O'hare
MLI Moline
PIA Peoria
SPI Springfield IL

-

INDIANA > * TIED in numbers between DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection and UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

BOTH serving:
SBN South Bend
IND Indianapolis
FWA Fort Wayne
EVV Evansville

-

IOWA > * AA American Airlines/American Eagle *

CID Cedar Rapids
DSM Des Moines
DBQ Dubuque
SUX Sioux City
ALO Waterloo

-

KANSAS > * AA American Airlines/American Eagle *

ICT Wichita
MHK Manhattan KS
GCK Garden City

-

KENTUCKY > * UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

PAH Paducah
SDF Louisville
LEX Lexington
CVG Cincinnatti

-

LOUISIANA > * TIED in numbers between AA American Airlines/American Eagle and UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

BOTH serving:
SHV Shreveport
MSY New Orleans
MLU Monroe
LCH Lake Charles
LFT Lafayette
BTR Baton Rouge
AEX Alexandria

-

MAINE > * TIED in numbers between UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express and DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection and US US Airways/US Airways Express *

ALL serving:
PWM Portland ME
BGM Bangor

-

MARYLAND > * US US Airways/US Airways Express *

SBY Salisbury
BWI Baltimore

-

MASSACHUSETTS > * B6 jetBlue Airways *

ORH Worcester
MVY Martha's Vineyard
ACK Nantucket
HYA Barnstable
BOS Boston

-

MICHIGAN > * DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection *

TVC Traverse City
CIU Chippewa Co
MBS Saginaw
PLN Pellston
MQT Marquette
LAN Lansing
AZO Kalamazoo / Battle Creek
GRR Grand Rapids
FNT Flint
ESC Escanaba
DTW Detroit
APN Alpena

-

MINNESOTA > * DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection *

RST Rochester MN
MSP Minneapolis
INL International Falls
HIB Hibbing
DLH Duluth
BRD Brainerd
BJI Bemidji

-

MISSISSIPPI > * AA American Airlines/American Eagle *

MEI Meridian
JAN Jackson
PIB Hattiesburg
GPT Gulfport / Biloxi

-

MISSOURI > * AA American Airlines/American Eagle *

STL Saint Louis
SGF Springfield MO
MCI Kansas City
JLN Joplin
COU Columbia MO

-

MONTANA > * DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection *

MSO Missoula
FCA Glacier Park
HLN Helena
GTF Great Falls
BTM Butte
BZN Bozeman
BIL Billings
WYS West Yellowstone

-

NEBRASKA > * TIED in numbers between DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection and AA American Airlines/American Eagle and UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

AA destinations:
GRI Grand Island
OMA Omaha

DL and UA both serving:
LNK Lincoln
OMA Omaha

-

NEVADA > * DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection *

RNO Reno
LAS Las Vegas
EKO Elko

-

NEW HAMPSHIRE > * every airline flying into NH only has one destination in the state *

PSM Portsmouth
MHT Manchester / Boston

-

NEW JERSEY > * AC Air Canada/Air Canada Express *

EWR Newark
ACY Atlantic City [starting May]

-

NEW MEXICO > * TIED in numbers between AA American Airlines/American Eagle and UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

UA destinations:
HOB Hobbs
SAF Santa Fe
ABQ Albuquerque

AA destinations:
ROW Roswell
SAF Santa Fe
ABQ Albuquerque

-

NEW YORK > * US US Airways/US Airways Express *

HPN White Plains
ART Watertown
SYR Syracuse
ROC Rochester
SWF Newburgh
LGA New York-LaGuardia
JFK New York-John F Kennedy
ITH Ithaca
ISP Islip
ELM Elmira
BUF Buffalo
BGM Binghampton
ALB Albany

-

NORTH CAROLINA > * US US Airways/US Airways Express *

ILM Wilmington NC
RDU Raleigh-Durham
EWN New Bern
OAJ Jacksonville NC
PGV Greenville NC
GSO Greensboro
FAY Fayetteville
CLT Charlotte
AVL Asheville

-

NORTH DAKOTA > * TIED in numbers between DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection and UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

BOTH serving:
ISN Williston
MOT Minot
FAR Fargo
DIK Dickinson
BIS Bismarck

UA destination:
DVL Devil's Lake

DL destination:
GFK Grand Forks

-

OHIO > * TIED in numbers between DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection and UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express and WN Southwest Airlines and US US Airways/US Airways Express and AA American Airlines/American Eagle *

ALL serving:
DAY Dayton
CMH Port Columbus
CLE Cleveland

WN, UA, US, DL serving:
CAK Akron-Canton

AA destination:
TOL Toledo

-

OKLAHOMA > * AA American Airlines/American Eagle *

TUL Tulsa
OKC Oklahoma City
LAW Lawton

-

OREGON > * UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

RDM Redmond
PDX Portland OR
OTH North Bend
MFR Medford
EUG Eugene

-

PENNSYLVANIA > * US US Airways/US Airways Express *

IPT Williamsport
AVP Wilkes-Barre
SCE State College
PIT Pittsburgh
PHL Philadelphia
MDT Harrisburg
ERI Erie
ABE Allentown

-

RHODE ISLAND > * every airline flying into RI only has one destination in the state *

PVD Providence

-

SOUTH CAROLINA > * US US Airways/US Airways Express *

MYR Myrtle Beach
HHH Hilton Head Island
GSP Greenville SC-Spartanburg
FLO Florence
CAE Columbia SC
CHS Charleston

-

SOUTH DAKOTA > * DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection *

FSD Sioux Falls
RAP Rapid City
ABR Aberdeen

-

TENNESSEE > * TIED in numbers between DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection and US US Airways/US Airways Express and AA American Airlines/American Eagle *

ALL serving:
BNA Nashville
MEM Memphis
TYS Knoxville
CHA Chattanooga

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TEXAS > * AA American Airlines/American Eagle *

SPS Wichita Falls
ACT Waco
TYR Tyler
SAT San Antonio
MAF Midland
MFE McAllen
LBB Lubbock
GGG Gregg Co
LRD Laredo
HOU Houston-Hobby
IAH Houston-Intercontinental
GRK Killeen-Ft Hood
ELP El Paso
DFW Dallas-Ft Worth
CRP Corpus Christi
CLL College Station
BRO Brownsville
BPT Port Arthur
AUS Austin
AMA Amarillo
ABI Abilene

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UTAH > * DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection *

SGU St George
SLC Salt Lake City
VEL Vernal
CNY Moab
CDC Cedar City

-

VERMONT > * every airline flying into VT only has one destination in the state *

BTV Burlington

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VIRGINIA > * US US Airways/US Airways Express *

IAD Washington-Dulles
DCA Washington-Reagan
ROA Roanoke
RIC Richmond
ORF Norfolk
PHF Newport News / Williamsburg
LYH Lynchburg
CHO Charlottesville

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WASHINGTON > * AS Alaska Airlines/Horizon Air *

YKM Yakima
EAT Wenatchee
ALW Walla Walla
GEG Spokane
SEA Seattle-Tacoma
PUW Pullman / Moscow
PSC Pasco
BLI Bellingham

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WEST VIRGINIA > * UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

LWB Lewisburg
CHW Charleston WV
PKB Parkersburg

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WISCONSIN > * DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection *

RHI Rhinelander
CWA Mosinee
MKE Milwaukee
MSN Madison
LSE La Crosse
GRB Green Bay
ATW Appleton

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WYOMING > * UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

RKS Rock Springs
LAR Laramie
JAC Jackson Hole
GCC Gillette
COD Cody / Yellowstone
CPR Casper


Congratulations to all who have made it through this behemoth of a list - took me beyond 3 hours to create
 

Here is the map:

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag71/lgieser95/carrierdestinationsperstate_zps196b35c0.png
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:10 pm

The largest players at PDX is Alaska/Horizon..........
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:11 pm

VERMONT:

United Airlines
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:13 pm

Quoting lhpdx (Reply 1):

The largest players at PDX is Alaska/Horizon..

Yes but I counted the airline that flies to most airports in the state of OREGON.

Quoting klm672 (Reply 2):

VERMONT:

United Airlines

Thanks
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:15 pm

Interesting concept - I think the even more interesting consideration would be to measure which carrier is largest by capacity in each state, as measured by seats departing from the state's airports. I would guess that, by that measure, you'd have for example:

AA #1 in Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, etc.
Delta #1 in Georgia, New York, Michigan, Minnesota, Utah, etc.
Southwest #1 in California, Maryland, Tennessee, etc.
United #1 in Illinois, New Jersey, Colorado, etc.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:19 pm

So this is "which airline serves the most number of destinations in each state" ? - interesting Air Canada takes New Jersey.
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:26 pm

Interesting topic, but I think your logic is flawed.

No way does UA have stronger presence in Oregon than AS/QX. I don't think that flying into one more airport makes them stronger. How many daily seats does AS have compared to UA? How many destinations? I bet it's not even close.

I'm guessing you got this idea from the exact same topic about Railroads by State in Trains Magazine a few Months ago.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:26 pm

This is really interesting. I also think that the view of most airports served juxtaposed with most passengers served is interesting.

It will be interesting to see if it changes at all wtih the combined AA/US.
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:27 pm

Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 5):
So this is "which airline serves the most number of destinations in each state" ? - interesting Air Canada takes New Jersey.

Yes, that surprised me too but it makes sense since there are only three airports in NJ with scheduled commercial service and AC is / will be the only carrier serving two of them - TTN is F9 exclusive and F9 doesn't serve any other destinations, NK from ACY doesn't go to EWR either
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:28 pm

I think this is interesting to see, but I don't think this is the best way to see who really "wins" each state. A better way to analyze this would have been by using seats or flights. The number of airports and airline serves in each state is almost irrelevant. Thanks for the information though!  
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:28 pm

Quoting klm672 (Reply 2):
VERMONT:

United Airlines

Incorrect.

Every airline (including even EAS Cape Air) that serves Vermont only serves one city.

9K - RUT (to BOS)
B6 - BTV (to JFK)
DL - BTV (to ATL, LGA, DTW)
G4 - BTV (to SFB)
UA - BTV (to ORD, IAD, EWR)
US - BTV (to PHL, DCA)

UA does have the most flights (12/day this summer) and most seats into BTV, but this map was strictly looking at number of airports that each airline flies into in that state.
 
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Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:30 pm

At least for Nevada, this is just laughable. To say Delta is dominant because they have some tiny aircraft flying to Elko? Give me a break. The other airlines just serve RNO and LAS because the vast majority of the population (maybe 95%) live within a one hour drive of those two airports. Elko has less than 1% of the state's population.

I'll go with WN based on the number of aircraft I see at LAS and RNO.

Maybe the JANET airline (or whatever they are called) should be number 1 because it serves Las Vegas, Tonopah, and Area 51.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:32 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 6):
No way does UA have stronger presence in Oregon than AS/QX. I don't think that flying into one more airport makes them stronger. How many daily seats does AS have compared to UA? How many destinations? I bet it's not even close.

I'm guessing you got this idea from the exact same topic about Railroads by State in Trains Magazine a few Months ago.

I understand your criticism, actually though I got this idea on my own, trains aren't that interesting to me... I started asking myself about this topic looking at Flightradar tracks at the east coast, this was when I realized for the first time that ie US served every active commercial airport in North Carolina and that got me thinking
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Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:34 pm

What happens to Tennessee if you add in TRI, served by both DL and US?
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:38 pm

Nice investigation. There are obviously many different ways to slice "strongest presence," but it is interesting to see where the airlines are largest strictly by breadth of destinations.

FYI, it appears you accidentally colored North Dakota to be split between DL and US in your map instead of between DL and UA.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:38 pm

Quoting aklrno (Reply 11):
At least for Nevada, this is just laughable. To say Delta is dominant because they have some tiny aircraft flying to Elko? Give me a break. The other airlines just serve RNO and LAS because the vast majority of the population (maybe 95%) live within a one hour drive of those two airports. Elko has less than 1% of the state's population.

This was my point about Oregon too. UAX serves Coos Bay, so United is more dominant in Oregon than AS/QX.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:40 pm

Quoting deltairlines (Reply 10):
Incorrect.

Every airline (including even EAS Cape Air) that serves Vermont only serves one city.

9K - RUT (to BOS)
B6 - BTV (to JFK)
DL - BTV (to ATL, LGA, DTW)
G4 - BTV (to SFB)
UA - BTV (to ORD, IAD, EWR)
US - BTV (to PHL, DCA)

UA does have the most flights (12/day this summer) and most seats into BTV, but this map was strictly looking at number of airports that each airline flies into in that state.

Ah Ok, I didn't look at the map too closely. My bad.

Thanks for correcting me.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:41 pm

Quoting aklrno (Reply 11):

At least for Nevada, this is just laughable. To say Delta is dominant because they have some tiny aircraft flying to Elko?

I think the OP is just looking at number of destinations served by airline by state.
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Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:45 pm

You have it wrong for Maryland, as BWI is the only major airport in the state (and largest in the MD/DC/NoVa metro area) and it is 72% WN. WN serves upwards of 64 cities.

Delta (8) and United (6) have more destinations than US Airways (3) does, too.

[Edited 2015-02-20 12:49:37]
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:46 pm

Quoting kingcavalier (Reply 13):

What happens to Tennessee if you add in TRI, served by both DL and US?

Then the largest presence would be tied between DL and US exclusively, meaning that on the map TN would be colored light blue/red. Actually wondering how I could oversee an airport like TRI, I found so many I've never heard of before
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:48 pm

Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 17):
I think the OP is just looking at number of destinations served by airline by state

     

Quoting smokeybandit (Reply 18):

You have it wrong for Maryland, as BWI is the only major airport in the state (and largest in the MD/DC/NoVa metro area) and it is 72% WN.

Just what FlyPIJets mentioned
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:50 pm

Quoting lugie (Thread starter):
NEW MEXICO > * TIED in numbers between AA American Airlines/American Eagle and UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

UA destinations:
HOB Hobbs
SAF Santa Fe
ABQ Albuquerque

AA destinations:
ROW Roswell
SAF Santa Fe
ABQ Albuquerque

WN carries more passengers out of ABQ alone than AA and UA out of ABQ, SAF, ROW, and HOB combined.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:51 pm

Quoting lugie (Reply 20):
Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 17):
I think the OP is just looking at number of destinations served by airline by state
Quoting lugie (Reply 20):
Just what FlyPIJets mentioned

He lists US Air then as having the most destinations. US Air serves 3 cities from Maryland.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:57 pm

Quoting smokeybandit (Reply 18):
You have it wrong for Maryland, as BWI is the only major airport in the state (and largest in the MD/DC/NoVa metro area) and it is 72% WN.

Well, according to parameters in OPs opening statements, Maryland is served by US at BWI and SBY, whereas WN only serves BWI.

So , as stated, if EAS carriers are ignored, then DL/OO service to BTM and many others should then be eliminated, correct?

And what about adding cargo lines? I bet Ameriflight would take many states lol.
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:00 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 21):
WN carries more passengers out of ABQ alone than AA and UA out of ABQ, SAF, ROW, and HOB combined.

WN presence in this table is deceiving, I know how important they are in terms of passenger miles however as stated before I only counted destinations per state with a "winner takes it all" principle and the lead to the situation that the only state where WN appears significant is Ohio, interestingly playing a "swing state" role too
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:03 pm

Quoting mtnwest1979 (Reply 23):

So , as stated, if EAS carriers are ignored, then DL/OO service to BTM and many others should then be eliminated, correct?

I did not ignore EAS carriers that operated explicitly for major airlines, such as OO for DL or UA in the west
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FRA STR HAM TXL MUC ZRH ACE BRU BLL DUB MAN ARN MAD OPO LIS FNC AMS PHL RDU LGA CLT EWR ORD ATL SFO MDW IAD YYZ SJO PTY
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:04 pm

You forgot San Angelo SJT for Texas, it is served by AA/AE
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:04 pm

Interesting. So it looks if one combines AA and US (which should have been done), Ohio flips to AA.
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:52 pm

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 26):
You forgot San Angelo SJT for Texas, it is served by AA/AE

Beat me to it.

At one point DRT had service on UA. Hoping it comes back on AA

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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:29 pm

Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 17):
I think the OP is just looking at number of destinations served by airline by state.

The title says "Strongest Airline Presence". Maybe it should say "Most Airports Served". It is a statistic, but a fairly meaningless one.

As an exercise in doing research and presenting the results it is an interesting learning experience, but ranks in significance with a statistical analysis of luggage colors by airport altitude.

For anyone interested: My principal airport is at 4415 feet and my luggage is orange or light blue depending on the trip.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:30 pm

All-mainline carriers like WN are at a fundamental disadvantage in this comparison due to the fact that the size of their planes limits capacity flexibility in small markets. But, it is neat to see this state-by-state comparison of network breadth, which is no doubt an important consideration for some customers. Thanks for taking the time to assemble this.

Quoting aklrno (Reply 29):
As an exercise in doing research and presenting the results it is an interesting learning experience, but ranks in significance with a statistical analysis of luggage colors by airport altitude.

I bet some small-market passengers would find this thread much more significant than your proposed study.

[Edited 2015-02-20 14:36:56]
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:51 pm

Quoting lugie (Thread starter):
CONNECTICUT > * US US Airways/US Airways Express *

HVN New Haven
BDL Windsor Locks

FWIW -- BDL should be 'Hartford' or 'Hartford/Springfield'. Windsor Locks is a small town where the airport is located, just north of Hartford. Similar to how the airport service Cincinnati (CVG) is actually in Hebron, Kentucky or how both airports servicing DC are not in DC proper.

Also -- Southwest is the strongest carrier in CT in terms of PAX numbers.

Interesting data, none the less.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:56 pm

Quoting aklrno (Reply 29):
The title says "Strongest Airline Presence". Maybe it should say "Most Airports Served". It is a statistic, but a fairly meaningless one.

As an exercise in doing research and presenting the results it is an interesting learning experience, but ranks in significance with a statistical analysis of luggage colors by airport altitude.

Yes and no. This investigation isn't as robust as analyzing by metrics such as seat count, ASM, etc.; I don't think the OP would claim otherwise.

However, looking at the maps, it's clear there is some correlation between market strength and number of airports served. It's not universal, but it's evident here that airlines tend to have the greatest airport coverage in areas surrounding hubs of particular strength. None of us is surprised to see DL strongest in a large bubble surrounding ATL/DTW/MSP/SLC; AA strongest in the region bounded by DFW and ORD; US being large in Arizona or the eastern seaboard from CLT through DCA and PHL up toward New England; or UA being strongly represented around its DEN and SFO hubs.

If we compared this to a state-level map reflecting dominance by average daily seats, many of the states with the highest traffic volumes would remain unchanged. WN would clearly be more prominent in that map and there would be significant changes, but that doesn't make the exercise here worthless, either.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:58 pm

Quoting aklrno (Reply 29):
As an exercise in doing research and presenting the results it is an interesting learning experience, but ranks in significance with a statistical analysis of luggage colors by airport altitude.

Why don't you offer up some research, same topic substitute European states and type it up in german.

As far as it being meaningless, speak for yourself, please. I see no reason for you to be hostile. I find it quite interesting. AirCanada #1 in destinations served in New Jersey. What an unexpected piece of trivia.
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:31 pm

NJ- Air Canada is not a done deal in ACY, so would not include this yet (not on AC route map yet)... so pretty much every airline in EWR and NK, F9 are all tied..

RI- wouldnt 9K take it with PVD and BID?
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:38 pm

So if this entire research is based solely on the number of airports an airline serves in a state, then any results will be quite misleading for the smaller states.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:40 pm

Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 33):
As far as it being meaningless, speak for yourself, please. I see no reason for you to be hostile. I find it quite interesting. AirCanada #1 in destinations served in New Jersey. What an unexpected piece of trivia.

My real objection is the title. Simply say what it is, the ranking of most airports served by state. If you didn't notice the premise as explained in the text, you would presume an erroneous result. Strongest presence to me means most passengers, or at least most flights, or available seats. Especially for Nevada, counting two daily visits by a CRJ-200 more than a few dozen 737's is silly.

Th OP has almost certainly never been to Nevada, much less to Elko so it is easy to misunderstand the significance but LAS serves about 2,000,000 residents and enough tourists to keep some of its 150,000 hotel rooms busy. Elko serves about 2,000 residents and people who like to visit very large mines. I've done that myself.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:01 am

What a fun little exercise! Best thing I've seen all day.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:13 am

From New Hampshire I would have to say WN is the dominate carrier. WN offers non stops from KMHT to KMDW,KBWI.KMCO and KTPA with the new AA offers nonstop fromKMHT to KDCA,KPHL and KCLT.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:17 am

Very good thread. Even in non hub states it's interesting which airline is the most popular. Non hub states would be like Idaho and Montana etc.

[Edited 2015-02-20 16:23:02]
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:26 am

This is an interesting list. I wonder how it would look with number of flights to that state, seat count into the state, aircraft, etc...
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:41 am

Quoting aklrno (Reply 36):
My real objection is the title.

Who cares what you think - you didn't put the time into compiling the data - sounds like you made up your mind becasue of the title. The OP went through quite a bit to demonstrate information he gleaned from gathering data. You seem upset because understanding what the OP was trying to convey wasn't readily available from the post title.

Quoting aklrno (Reply 36):
Th OP has almost certainly never been to Nevada, much less to Elko so it

The OP even stated it is a winner take all race - like the presidential race. If the vote in a state is 49% democrat and 51% republican, the republicans take 100% of the electoral vote. Same with the this data. If DL is the only airline flying to 3 airports in NV, everyone else only flies to 2 airports in NV, DL wins 100% of NV. That is the OP point.

It is interesting trivia to know. United at one time advertised it was the only airline to fly to all 50 states. That doesn't make them a better airline, or more desirable airlines or a better investment risk. But it is an interesting fact to know. (it is no longer true)

I applaud the efforts of folks trying to be both original and interesting on a.net. Thanks for the effort, lugie.
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:04 am

OP thank you for the time it took to compile all the data. Of course we could dive into lots of others stats and dissect those stats even further. If you ever get the time/feel the need I'd love for you to do the same, under the same parameters with the cargo environment, to include all the small feeders for the major partner! Thx again!
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:08 am

I generally perceive Southwest as dominating California in terms of people moved back and forth. If they don't beat UA they seem to be a close second.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:20 am

Quoting lugie (Thread starter):
NORTH DAKOTA > * TIED in numbers between DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection and UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express *

United also serves Jamestown.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:33 am

What I find most interesting is how US still dominates by number of destinations served from New York down to South Carolina. The legacy of Allegheny and Piedmont is still very evident in US Airways' network today.
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:25 am

Quoting commavia (Reply 4):
AA #1 in Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, etc

Since you have NC & PA, I'm assuming you mean post merger, but pre-merger, was AA largest in Florida?
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:34 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 46):
Since you have NC & PA, I'm assuming you mean post merger

Yes, I mean post-merger.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 46):
pre-merger, was AA largest in Florida?

I suspect so, yes. Even excluding USAirways, I suspect AA is the largest single airline in Florida by departing seats, driven by the MIA hub which is predominantly mainline, with plenty of widebodies. On top of that, even pre-merger AA isn't exactly tiny in the rest of the state (MCO, TPA, FLL, etc.). Once adding in USAirways - with its substantial capacity to CLT/PHL - I think it's a virtual certainty that AA is #1 overall in the state.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:34 am

Great thread. Before looking at the data I was inclined to think more generally about strong airline presence by US state. In other words, when I think of Illinois, I would think United is strongest (or UA and AA); New York (JetBlue, American); Pennsylvania (US/AA); California (UA and AA); Washington (Alaska); Texas (UA, AA, and WN); Florida (AA;though I understand DL is big, too), et. al.

Also didn't think any airline served Jamestown, ND. I remember NW used way back.
 
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RE: Strongest Airline Presence By US State

Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:38 am

Quoting lugie (Thread starter):
MASSACHUSETTS > * B6 jetBlue Airways *

ORH Worcester
MVY Martha's Vineyard
ACK Nantucket
HYA Barnstable
BOS Boston

Incorrect. Cape Air (9K) is the "largest" in the Bay State with six airports served:
ACK, BOS, EWB, HYA, MVY, and PVC.

Quoting lugie (Thread starter):
MAINE > * TIED in numbers between UA United Airlines/United Airlines Express and DL Delta Air Lines/Delta Connection and US US Airways/US Airways Express *

ALL serving:
PWM Portland ME
BGM Bangor

Also incorrect. 9K is also "largest" in the Pine Tree State, serving three airports:
AGS, BHB, and RKD.

Quoting nkops (Reply 34):
RI- wouldnt 9K take it with PVD and BID?

  

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