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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:57 am

Quoting wzafar (Reply 45):
Which business class product does the TK A330-200 feature?

There are way more than that:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/turki...622325-tk-a330-aircraft-codes.html
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:19 am

Im wondering if TK might retime their TK726 flight to around midnight as this would mean a noon arrival in KTM and therefore less issues with adverse weather conditions.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:20 am

Thats crazy,, do they have Y+ in the new A332 as flightsimboy has inquired?

[Edited 2015-03-04 00:31:37]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:43 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 52):
Thats crazy,, do they have Y+ in the new A332 as flightsimboy has inquired?

Only some of the 777s have Y+. The next deliveries will not have it. If you fly e.g from LAX you have it till IST and then you would fly J or Y depending on your booking
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:45 am

Any news on re-configuration of the existing 77Ws to the same configuration as the newly delivered ones ?

Thanks !

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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:50 am

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 51):

Im wondering if TK might retime their TK726 flight to around midnight as this would mean a noon arrival in KTM and therefore less issues with adverse weather conditions.

For sure. But then TATL connectivity will be lost I guess.
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:12 pm

Quoting The777Man (Reply 54):
Any news on re-configuration of the existing 77Ws to the same configuration as the newly delivered ones ?

Hello there,
No news of a timeline, but we discussed here before that they will be done one at a time during C checks and presumably in the winter months.

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 51):
with adverse weather conditions.

From the looks of the footage, that fog is dense and less than 100m visibility.
-What is the minimums for TK?
-How often this happens at Kathmandu?
Thanks.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:46 pm

Quoting wing (Reply 32):
I flew with Delta in 1997 from JFK to Orlando.After flying TK, it was noting but mediocore even then.

I hated to fly on DL even in 2004-5 time frame, now the airline is the best domestic airline in the US if you ask me.
We still don't have Do&Co here though  
Quoting wing (Reply 32):
I am an Airbus 330 pilot,I am looking down on other pilots for a long time already especially the B777 guys

Har har har  
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:15 pm

IST


Was playing around with flightradar and discovered that planes are also tracked on ground. This screenshot shows a plane crossing the construction site (at least the status in googlemaps). Can we assume from this that there will be a crossing road through this triangle with parking lots to the left and right?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:18 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 58):

Was playing around with flightradar and discovered that planes are also tracked on ground. This screenshot shows a plane crossing the construction site (at least the status in googlemaps). Can we assume from this that there will be a crossing road through this triangle with parking lots to the left and right?

It is an accuracy problem of the site, I guess...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:58 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 58):
Can we assume from this that there will be a crossing road through this triangle with parking lots to the left and right?

No. That triangle area will be 15 parking spots, all along the taxiway.
Two blue buildings at the bottom left stay as "de-icing related"
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:31 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 58):
This screenshot shows a plane crossing the construction site (at least the status in googlemaps). Can we assume from this that there will be a crossing road through this triangle with parking lots to the left and right?

The ADS-B receivers around Istanbul lost the aircraft on taxiway S, and got the signal again only when he was on taxiway K, in front of those 4 parked aircraft. Flightradar24.com simply draws a straight line from last point of signal reception to the next one. Sometimes this can take seconds, sometimes minutes. (or hours over areas with no coverage, such as oceans)

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 59):
It is an accuracy problem of the site, I guess...

Exactly. But considering these planes are on the ground and the receivers are scattered around the city by random people volunteering their services, it is still damn accurate !

[Edited 2015-03-04 16:49:16]
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:13 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 56):
No news of a timeline, but we discussed here before that they will be done one at a time during C checks and presumably in the winter months.

Have any been converted yet ?

I guess LAX will be one of the last destinations to keep aircraft with premium economy due to the length of the flight ?

Thanks for the update !

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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:59 am

Quoting The777Man (Reply 62):
Have any been converted yet ?

Not yet, first one will be around november.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:48 am

Quoting TK105 (Reply 55):

For sure. But then TATL connectivity will be lost I guess.

I wonder what the financial consequences for an airline are in case of such an incident? Supposing that this results in a write-off would TK have to pay for the entire aircraft or how much does the insurance cover in such cases?. Who is going to pay for the thousands of passengers stranded due to airlines having to cancel and not being able to fly their passengers in and out of KTM

I know that the total costs are much bigger than the direct costs involved in replacing the aircraft, but the a general idea would be great.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:00 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 64):
how much does the insurance cover in such cases?

After a conversation with my sister in Turkey who specializes in big insurance claims like this one;
First the insurance company (or companies) will find out if this is an accident and at the end they will either pay for all the repairs, or if it is a write off, they will pay the whole amount to replace the frame. Then they will deal with recovering the rest from the plane parts.
Insurance also pays ALL other expenses due to the accident. Pax expenses, revenue lost due to the lack of frame, might even pay some amount to the KTM airport and other airlines.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:37 pm

Some great new videos on the TK YouTube featuring the operations and different jobs that are carried out within the airline.
https://www.youtube.com/user/TURKISHAIRLINES/videos?spfreload=10
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:52 pm

TK 321 WL ready to join the fleet:
I guess no more WL but SL for sharklets  Smilehttp://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/search/label/Turkish%20Airlines

[Edited 2015-03-05 15:05:18]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:20 pm

Here is the full schedule for the next A321s:

TC-JSN A321-231(SL) 6508 20 March 2015
TC-JSO A321-231(SL) 6563 April 2015
TC-JSP A321-231(SL) 6599 May 2015
TC-JSR A321-231(SL) 6652 June 2015
TC-JSS A321-231(SL) 6657 June 2015
TC-JST A321-231(SL) 6682 July 2015
TC-JSU A321-231(SL) 6709 July 2015
TC-JSV A321-231(SL) 6751 August 2015
TC-JSY A321-231(SL) 6758 August 2015
TC-JSZ A321-231(SL) 6766 September 2015
TC-??? A321-231(SL) 6781 September 2015
TC-??? A321-231(SL) ???? October 2015
TC-??? A321-231(SL) ???? November 2015
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:05 pm

Just booked Belgrade-Istanbul-Manila for €590! Fantastic price, especially when compared to the Persian Gulf gang which has the cheapest fare at €1.100 or so.

I know these are only promotional fares but damn...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:32 pm

DHMI published passenger numbers for Feb15. Slow down continues:

IST +5%
SAW +16%
ESB +2%
ADB +9%
AYT +8%

Turkey +6.7%

ADB and AYT is definitely doing OK but Istanbul numbers are not good as used to be.

So we can expect around +6% for TK which will be publish in 2 weeks.

By the way, recently Pegasus issued its financial results for 2014:

Revenue : 3,082 M TL (+29%)
Profit : 143 M TL (+62%)

http://www.pegasusyatirimciiliskiler...file/pdf/PGSUS-31122014-Imzali.pdf (Turkish)

Certainly Pegasus is in the right direction.  
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:06 pm

Quoting JU068 (Reply 69):

I saw a fare from MAN-HKG return for £297 - all taxes included! Absolutely amazing price nonetheless.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:08 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 71):

That's crazy! Was it some sort of promotion or..?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:54 pm

Quoting JU068 (Reply 72):


No idea, but look! It's now £301. It's only £90 more than flying from Manchester to Istanbul, and that's just taxes so the fare is actually cheaper to go to HKG (14hrs) than IST (4hrs). Crazy!

[Edited 2015-03-06 09:56:08]

[Edited 2015-03-06 09:56:32]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:33 pm

THY has a new "Fly Africa" commercial out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtTv7t7z9eo

Quoting TK105 (Reply 70):
DHMI published passenger numbers for Feb15. Slow down continues:

6% is hardly slow, one of the worlds fastest growth rates still.
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:42 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 74):
6% is hardly slow, one of the worlds fastest growth rates still.

Well it is Jan - Feb numbers. As Jan was at 10%, this means approx. no growth in Feb itself.

Is the snow an explanation about this drop? Is there an estimate about how many pax were affected by the snow?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:47 pm

These are really nice clips, brilliant idea...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAgb3FkYoEI
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:09 pm

TK announced on ISE that it will start operating scheduled flights to Bursa from Erzurum and Trabzon.

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 75):
Is there an estimate about how many pax were affected by the snow?

It was earlier announced that 1268 flights were cancelled along with 56 diversions due to the Istanbul snow during February 17-20. They estimated a EUR 26mil loss as result.
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:12 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 77):
TK announced on ISE that it will start operating scheduled flights to Bursa from Erzurum and Trabzon

I assume these flights are operated by Borajet?!?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:07 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 77):
It was earlier announced that 1268 flights were cancelled along with 56 diversions due to the Istanbul snow during February 17-20. They estimated a EUR 26mil loss as result.

I think this is not enough to explain the drop in pax growth in feb.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:24 pm

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 78):
I assume these flights are operated by Borajet?!?

I suspect so. Not along ago I heard Bursa was a major catchment area traffic generator to SAW, so it makes sense for more direct services from Bursa over time. As matter of history, at one time TK had Bursa-IST service.

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 79):
I think this is not enough to explain the drop in pax growth in feb.

Well you gotta consider other airlines also and those cancellations. A friend was stuck in Istanbul 3-days extra due repeated BA cancellations.

Anyhow, historic air-travel growth rate globally closely tracks GDP, so something 6% is still double global average.
Certainly does not help Turkey is has neighboring economies in difficulty such as the EU, Russia and some MidEast nations.
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:31 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 80):
I suspect so. Not along ago I heard Bursa was a major catchment area traffic generator to SAW, so it makes sense for more direct services from Bursa over time. As matter of history, at one time TK had Bursa-IST service.

well, yes, many people from Bursa and surrounding cities take the coach to SAW (or even IST) to catch a flight. Very strange indeed if you consider that until a few years ago they just had convenient direct flights or those with stopover in ESB for east flying and MUC for international travel.

Erzurum and Trabzon are for sure the safest bets with a healthy O/D load. If the pricing is attractive and they establish a shuttle service to Yenisehir Airport, I believe this could work out and ease a little bit SAW (and IST).
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:58 pm

Here is the next in line 77W for TK http://paineairport.com/kpae11069.htm
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:00 pm

Is ATL really a larger market to Istanbul and beyond than MIA? I am not a MIA fanboy, but I just don't see how ATL is more profitable. If someone can show me how than I will be grateful for that. ATL is a DL stronghold so any airlines not affiliated with it usually does poorly. It seems that TK is doing all in it's power to avoid flying to MIA. They must of had a really bad experience last time they where here that just left a bad taste in their mouth. MIA is a much larger O&D market to Istanbul, MIA is around 60,000 a year whilst ATL is half of that. Is it yields that is the problem? If so I don't see how ATL is higher-yielding. Again maybe someone who has inside knowledge on TK can care to enlighten me on this strange decision. I have the feeling that TK will announce MCO before MIA at this point, or even Kansas City or Waco Texas for that matter.  

[Edited 2015-03-09 09:06:23] Here is the O&D list:

1) New York - 623
2) Los Angeles - 176
3) Washington - 160
4) Chicago - 121
5) Boston - 80
6) San Francisco - 70
7) Miami - 68
8) NYC-ESB - 45
9) Houston - 37
10) Atlanta - 36
11) Seattle - 31
12) Washington-ESB - 25
13) Orlando - 23


[Edited 2015-03-09 09:13:54]

[Edited 2015-03-09 09:15:03]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:26 pm

Looks like TK is in talks with 8U

Turkish Airlines (TK, Istanbul Atatürk) is reported to be the unnamed European carrier which has been in talks with Afriqiyah Airways (8U, Tripoli Int'l) over the planned lease of the latter's two A330-300s. Libyan media reports state the Turks are currently discussing the possible use of the jets ahead fo the upcoming summer season.

As previously reported, F-WWTS (cn 1499) and F-WWCK (cn 1535) are currently in storage at Teruel in Spain and have yet to commence operations for and on behalf of the Libyan carrier. Are these new built frames that has never been delivered ?

Here is the link http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/ne...inked-to-afriqiyah-a330-lease-deal
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:16 pm

Quoting TK773ER (Reply 84):
Are these new built frames that has never been delivered ?

Correct. Less than a year old. If TK gets the right price they will go for it. Not sure about the engines?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:52 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 85):

Engines never stopped TK, they like Turkish style "little little in to the middle"  
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:02 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 85):
Not sure about the engines?

TK currently operates A330s with all 3 engine types, so it shouldn't be an issue.  
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:26 pm

Quoting bgm (Reply 87):
TK currently operates A330s with all 3 engine types

I thought GE CF6 for the A333 and Trent700 for the Cargo, what is the 3rd engine for?
Thanks.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:28 pm

Don't they also have the PW4000?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:40 pm

A333
RR - TC-JNH-R
GE - TC-JNS-JOE

A332
GE - TC-JIL/M/N, -JNA-G
PW - TC-JIO-T
RR - TC-JNV
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:45 pm

AtlasJet is rebranding

There’s a Change in the Air – Atlasjet Looks Forward as AtlasGlobal

With its aim fixed on enlarging its fleet and increasing its global strength, Atlasjet decided to begin with a change of corporate identity. The decision to move forward as AtlasGlobal was taken by Murat Ersoy, Chairman of the Board, who said “We have taken the first steps towards our Global project – there’s more to come.”

The Atlasjet brand has been operating in Turkey since 2001, and since 2004 has been offering domestic and international scheduled flights, becoming known for its quality, safety and comfort.

AtlasGlobal is undergoing a huge transformation: from its logo to the appearance of its planes; from its corporate identity to its vision and goals.

The Chairman of the Board of AtlasGlobal Airlines, Murat Ersoy, stated the airline has completed preparations to expand and diversifying the domestic and international destinations with growth strategy is not focused only on Turkey, but in parallel to different regions of the world, which makes the move forward under the AtlasGlobal brand timely.

Mr. Ersoy stressed that the change of corporate identity was the beginning of the path to growth and added “In tandem with this change, our new promotional film will be shown on TV starting from today. From our marketing strategy to the services and comfort which we offer onboard our flights, our guests will experience the change throughout.”

As part of the new corporate identity the AtlasGlobal website address has changed and will continue to serve passengers at www.atlasglb.com .


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Promo video of new brand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5TZwOdE31k

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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:14 pm

I'm not sure if I like the name 'AtlasGlobal', will sure take some time to get used to.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:36 pm

Personally I saw nothing really wrong with Atlasjet to necessitate the change to Global.

But anyhow, whenever I think if the name, it reminds me more of Atlas Air the large US cargo airline.

Maybe they should have actually picked a totally different name than just replace jet with global?
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:30 am

Sounds like those fake airlines in aviation related movies, will Zagrosjet in Iraq also be renamed?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:29 am

until today I'm still trying to understand why they picked the name Atlas in first place?!?!
anyway, they idea of renamin in line with a totally reshaped corporate identity is not bad; however, I still found the promo video in particular a little bit "cheapish". it looks to me as a mix of TK with their "all about you and the travel feeling" kind of clips, added some EK/EY style music and finished it of extremely poor with models for shampoo ads.
I personally try to take KK on domestic trips whenever I can. One of the main reasons is the top ontime and baggage performance. One can see that they tried to mentioned those main pillars of customer focus in the video (caring, hospitality, ontime performance, comfort, design, innovation, growth). I hope this turns up well for them and we see an even better KK in future.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:18 am

Quoting JU068 (Reply 10):
Also, wasn't there talk of IST adding two (?) additional air-bridges?
Quoting TK787 (Reply 17):
Terminal will be extending that way, IIRC 6 more bridges.

From an article today on airporthaber.com TAV CEO Sani Sener says, "8 air bridges", a 110M euro investment at IST. He adds he doesn't believe the new airport construction will finish in a short time.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:59 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 96):

If they use same space to build 8 gates on T1-T6 area may only be narrowbody gates. Goodbye 380 dreams  
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:47 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 96):
He adds he doesn't believe the new airport construction will finish in a short time.

Of course he is going to say that. The new airport kills his airport.
Now if TAV had won the contract for the new airport, you can bet he would be instead singing the praises of what great things were coming.
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RE: Turkish Aviation March 2015

Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:58 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 98):

His bias aside, I also doubt that in 2 years time we will have an airport with a capacity of 90 million pax and 3 runways ready and operational. All the major public works in Turkey in recent years have been delayed - Marmaray, Ankara and Istanbul metro lines, high speed rail... Our politicians are notorious for giving unrealistic deadlines to garner support.

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