|Quoting steex (Reply 23):|
AA+TW = No more STL hub
DL+NW = No more MEM hub (drastically reduced CVG)
UA+CO = No more CLE hub (IAD seeing frequent reductions)
WN+FL = Drastic reductions at ATL
F9+YX = No more MKE (this one is a messy example, but still true)
TWA should never have made STL
a hub. The St. Louis metro area simply doesn't have enough business to support a hub like DFW
. Carl Icahn decided he didn't want to fight AA
and moved TWA to STL
, then bought Ozark.
hadn't merged, MEM
would still have slowly disappeared. MEM
started out as a Southern hub. Then it became a Republic hub. Then, it became a NW
hub. Frankly, the only successful hubs in the Southeast have been ATL
's hub at CLE
had been slowly dwindling before the merger, as the focus was on IAH
. Cleveland is another large city that simply doesn't have the business to support a hub.
's reductions at ATL
is probably the an instance where one airline bought another with the idea of downsizing a hub. WN
knows that it isn't about to run DL
out of ATL
, the way it ran US out of BWI
, or the way it ran US and AA
out of the north-south traffic on the West Coast.
as a hub, how much has WN
grown at STL
? I would have thought by now, WN
would have starting taking gates on D.
That all said, the Phoenix metro area isn't the leisure and retirement destination that it was in the 60s and 70s. My wife used to go to her former employer's Scottsdale office a lot, including during the summer. She was AAdvantage Gold on AA
and never got an upgrade, because there were so many Ex. Plat. and Plat flyers on the route (ORD
). I have friends in New York who travel to Phoenix for business, including the summer.
My wife used to fly to MCO
during the summer, and there were far more leisure flyers going to central and south Florida in the summer than Phoenix.
Phoenix is a growing metro area, unlike Cleveland and St. Louis.
This isn't to say that the combined AA
/US won't do some right-sizing. But, LAX
doesn't have a lot of room for additonal flights. So, LAX
is probably going to be like JFK
, focusing on the O&D traffic, while PHX
will handle more connecting traffic.