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United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:52 am

I have noticed that there is a lack of United 787 photos taken at Newark in the database. Does United currently have any flights that depart or arrive at EWR ? Are there any plans in the future?
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:54 am

EWR-LHR this summer but not sure if it continues to winter season
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:54 am

I don't believe there are any scheduled right now. In May, one of the EWR-LHR flights will become a 788.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:27 am

Eventually it would make sense but at the moment the 787 is much better deployed flying west coast to asia and pacfic flights
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:17 am

The 788 would make sense from a capacity standpoint as an upgauge option for some of the 757 routes out of EWR. However the 763 and 764 fleets can also play this role, and the 788's superior range make it more useful on longer hauls.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:52 pm

Ultimately, is gate space every going to be a concern? The 777's always use essentially 2 gates, while there are a few gates where 767's don't (correct me if I'm wrong about that) Once the 767 retire, and 787's replace their routes, I would think EWR is going to feel a squeeze, save for some very careful scheduling.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:28 pm

Quoting Cosyr (Reply 5):
I would think EWR is going to feel a squeeze, save for some very careful scheduling.

I believe several airports are going to have space issues with 787s replacing 767s. DC-10s were and 767s are fine on the C-even gates at ORD but I've never seen a 777 occupy them. Side-by-side DC-10s were common in these gates but the 788 is still 30' wider. Not sure where the cut-off is for using these gates without restrictions.

I'm guessing the 787 wingspan in LAX will be an issue as well now that UA doesn't have the use of the widebody gates in T6 anymore. Probably just gates 74, 76 and 77 can be used simultaneously.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:12 pm

EWR sees many 767-400ERs. The 767-400ERs are rather range limited, so they are well used from EWR whereas the 787-8 or 787-9 range is not needed. Similarly the 767-300ERs are flying more out of EWR. The range of the 767 better matches EWR to Europe than the 787. Similarly the 787 is not flying much out of IAD or ORD. ORD-Europe flights are all within the 767 range if they don't need 777 capacity.

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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:20 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 7):
EWR sees many 767-400ERs. The 767-400ERs are rather range limited, so they are well used from EWR whereas the 787-8 or 787-9 range is not needed. Similarly the 767-300ERs are flying more out of EWR. The range of the 767 better matches EWR to Europe than the 787. Similarly the 787 is not flying much out of IAD or ORD. ORD-Europe flights are all within the 767 range if they don't need 777 capacity.

I kinda see the 787-9 being good replacements for really long routes like EWR-BOM/DEL/PVG/HKG. But yes, I agree it's quite a waste of that bird's capabilities to run them on 7-hour missions to western Europe.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:30 pm

Quoting a380787 (Reply 8):

I kinda see the 787-9 being good replacements for really long routes like EWR-BOM/DEL/PVG/HKG. But yes, I agree it's quite a waste of that bird's capabilities to run them on 7-hour missions to western Europe.

The 787-9 could very well end up on those routes. Right now those 7 routes (add in PEK & NRT) have rather high utilization on the 2 class 777s. The 787-9 is very similar in capacity, so it is a bit redundant as it would impact the utilization of about 12 of UA's 777s. When UA starts wanting to move those planes out of the network that they are on, I think EWR-NRT is most likely to be swapped.
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:35 pm

I think the 787-10 will make a nice home in EWR for trunk routes to Europe and even South America.
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:42 pm

Keep in mind that UA won't be spreading the love with the 787 until the fleet size increases. They will have 50+ when all is said and done which will mean they will fly from all of UA's international hubs. Until then, they'll be used on the longest routes where the 767s can't reach and where the 777 is too much a/c or can't reach.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:51 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 9):

The 787-9 could very well end up on those routes. Right now those 7 routes (add in PEK & NRT) have rather high utilization on the 2 class 777s. The 787-9 is very similar in capacity, so it is a bit redundant as it would impact the utilization of about 12 of UA's 777s. When UA starts wanting to move those planes out of the network that they are on, I think EWR-NRT is most likely to be swapped.

I don't see it as an utilization or capacity issue, but rather the really long stage lengths are crossing to sub-optimal zone for 77E, for which the 789 might do the job with much better trip costs (and or payload penalty)
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:41 pm

Quoting jetblastdubai (Reply 6):
DC-10s were and 767s are fine on the C-even gates at ORD but I've never seen a 777 occupy them.

Happens every day, ORD-FRA, ORD-LHR, ORD-GRU, ORD-HKG also goes from C (744), as does ORD-NRT.

They also go from the B-gates, so I'm not really sure what you're referring to.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:47 pm

Quoting jetblastdubai (Reply 6):
DC-10s were and 767s are fine on the C-even gates at ORD but I've never seen a 777 occupy them. Side-by-side DC-10s were common in these gates but the 788 is still 30' wider. Not sure where the cut-off is for using these gates without restrictions.

Huh? ANA departs from C10 daily, and the UA 747s usually depart from C16 and C18.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:48 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 7):
The 767-400ERs are rather range limited

Don't know where you get that, EWR-HNL has been operated non stop since Cal first acquired the Aircraft.

This route varies between 10-12 hours depending on winds.


Not exactly 'range limited'
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:55 pm

Quoting Max Q (Reply 15):

Don't know where you get that, EWR-HNL has been operated non stop since Cal first acquired the Aircraft.

This route varies between 10-12 hours depending on winds.

Not exactly 'range limited'

Roseflyer might be attempting to compare 764 to 763ER and 330s in a sense that 764 would really have trouble doing TPAC. The only TPAC route that UA can possibly fly with the plane is SEA-NRT, but that's already handed over to NH.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:58 pm

Quoting Max Q (Reply 15):
Don't know where you get that, EWR-HNL has been operated non stop since Cal first acquired the Aircraft.

This route varies between 10-12 hours depending on winds.


Not exactly 'range limited'

It is range limited for the bulk of routes that UA operates the 787 on. The 767-400ER can't fly transpacific or USA west coast to Europe. It is best used EWR or IAD/ORD/IAH to Europe.
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:16 pm

Quoting NYPECO (Thread starter):
Are there any plans in the future?

My guess is that because of the location of EWR and the huge number of flights to Europe, the 763/764 fleet will be the primary "mid-sized" aircraft utilized. EWR will probably be the last hub that will be seeing 763/764. Once those go, then you'll see 787s at EWR year-round.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:49 pm

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 13):
They also go from the B-gates, so I'm not really sure what you're referring to.

Crap...I meant the C-ODD gates....the gates that push in the alley between B and C.

I know B16 and B17 are widebody capable.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:15 pm

Oh, man...

When I go to EWR, how will I be able to spot these planes? After all, about 99.97% of the airliners at Newark are United twins!

 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:48 am

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 17):
It is range limited for the bulk of routes that UA operates the 787 on. The 767-400ER can't fly transpacific or USA west coast to Europe. It is best used EWR or IAD/ORD/IAH to Europe.

The 764 was never meant to have close to the performance of the 787 but its not as short ranged as you imply.
EWR-HNL is 4300 NM and LHR-LAX is only 400 miles further so it could operate this mission with restrictions though.


And it does very well on the EWR-HNL route, it's efficiency on this leg is really unbeatable, there's nothing else out there of similar seat capacity that burns less !


The -400 has been used successfully in S America is well, it's not 'best used' to Europe, it is a very flexible Aircraft.
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:30 am

Out of curiosity, why was Boeing not able to bump up the range of the 767-400 past that of the 767-300ER.

I am pretty confident that the -300ER has longer range.

Would the range increase have helped the 400ER?
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:23 pm

Quoting bourbon (Reply 22):
Out of curiosity, why was Boeing not able to bump up the range of the 767-400 past that of the 767-300ER.

Because Boeing designed the 764 to meet two conflicting missions, it was designed to replaced DL's L1011s which were used for domestic service and CO's DC-10s which were used on long haul flights. The aircraft had to be a compromise, DL in the beginning operated the 764 exclusively on domestic flights (ATL-MCO, FLL etc..). It's later on that DL changed their plan and reconfigured their 764s to operate on similar missions as CO. Had Boeing designed the 764 to meet CO's specs only, the aircraft would have had much more range and capability.
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:01 pm

One head scratcher for me is that United built a beautiful Global First lounge at LHR, with startling great service. But if you are flying on a $5k Business First ticket, on a 2 cabin aircraft, you won't be able to access it unless you're Global Services. There aren't many United 3 cabin aircraft, especially to EWR, and that F lounge is often empty. Given the fierce competition on LHR to NYC and to many more U.S. destinations why wouldn't they use more 3 cabin 767's to LHR as BA, AA do, and Delta delivers a far better C class than the CO bought ordinary bed seats and no F cabin?
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:13 pm

Quoting SonomaFlyer (Reply 11):
Keep in mind that UA won't be spreading the love with the 787 until the fleet size increases. They will have 50+ when all is said and done which will mean they will fly from all of UA's international hubs. Until then, they'll be used on the longest routes where the 767s can't reach and where the 777 is too much a/c or can't reach.

That's about right.

Until the fleet gets larger, we at EWR won't see them much, unless they are on a repo.
IAH, ORD; and SFO (along with LAX) are the places they are operating a lot from.

Quoting Max Q (Reply 21):
The -400 has been used successfully in S America is well, it's not 'best used' to Europe, it is a very flexible Aircraft.

EWR-GRU every day.........

Quoting Cosyr (Reply 5):
Ultimately, is gate space every going to be a concern? The 777's always use essentially 2 gates, while there are a few gates where 767's don't (correct me if I'm wrong about that) Once the 767 retire, and 787's replace their routes, I would think EWR is going to feel a squeeze, save for some very careful scheduling.

Gate space.......not a problem. We've got the gates set up for them in C-2 and C-3.
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:03 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 24):
Given the fierce competition on LHR to NYC and to many more U.S. destinations why wouldn't they use more 3 cabin 767's to LHR as BA, AA do

Because the vast majority of the premium traffic goes JFK-LHR, not EWR-LHR, so there is no demand at EWR for F services out of EWR.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:27 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 26):

Because the vast majority of the premium traffic goes JFK-LHR, not EWR-LHR, so there is no demand at EWR for F services out of EWR.

*lower* demand, not *no* demand. On top of UA's own services, BA LH LX all fly F to Europe on a daily basis.

In terms of number of F destinations to Europe in the summer, I think UA+LH+LX from EWR is far higher AA+BA from JFK :

AA+BA : Only LHR

UA+LH+LX : LHR FRA MUC ZRH GVA AMS CDG MXP
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:00 pm

Quoting a380787 (Reply 27):

*lower* demand, not *no* demand. On top of UA's own services, BA LH LX all fly F to Europe on a daily basis.

Really? I wasn't aware that the BA 788 had an F cabin.

Quoting a380787 (Reply 27):
In terms of number of F destinations to Europe in the summer, I think UA+LH+LX from EWR is far higher AA+BA from JFK :

AA+BA : Only LHR

UA+LH+LX : LHR FRA MUC ZRH GVA AMS CDG MXP

You've lost me on this one. I was talking about EWR-LHR and now you're talking about EWR to everywhere. ??????
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:07 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 28):
You've lost me on this one. I was talking about EWR-LHR and now you're talking about EWR to everywhere. ??????

I'm lost as well.

I will say that whatever GF is on EWR routes it's either to places where it's needed (LHR, BRU, AMS, GVA) or placed at random. It's actually more common out of EWR than you'd think.

The bigger issue is the lack of a lounge at EWR and having some of the most crowded clubs in the system. Also the catering up front could use a refresh to differ itself more than J.
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:18 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 28):

Really? I wasn't aware that the BA 788 had an F cabin.

BA flies 772 to EWR with F.

Quoting N62NA (Reply 28):
You've lost me on this one. I was talking about EWR-LHR and now you're talking about EWR to everywhere. ??????

You're trying to use one route to generalize on how EWR has no F demand. You stated JFK/EWR-LHR but it's very obvious you're back to your usual (multi-year) rant about how EWR is inferior to JFK.

If you enjoy dealing with Heathrow in order for you to justify JFK's superiority, be my guest. The rest of us will value our time and fly nonstop.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:03 am

Quoting a380787 (Reply 30):
BA flies 772 to EWR with F.

Not today they aren't.

Quoting a380787 (Reply 30):
You're trying to use one route to generalize on how EWR has no F demand. You stated JFK/EWR-LHR but it's very obvious you're back to your usual (multi-year) rant about how EWR is inferior to JFK.

I was specifically addressing the comment made about NYC-LHR.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:19 am

Quoting N62NA (Reply 31):

I searched for summer schedule and I see F seats on that 772... Maybe it's a winter thing
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:35 am

Quoting a380787 (Reply 32):
I searched for summer schedule and I see F seats on that 772... Maybe it's a winter thing

I make sure that I'm right when I make declarative statements such as you did re: BA and the 772 at EWR. Maybe you should do the same?
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:58 am

Quoting bourbon (Reply 22):
I am pretty confident that the -300ER has longer range.

And the -200ER longer range still.

Quoting bourbon (Reply 22):
Out of curiosity, why was Boeing not able to bump up the range of the 767-400 past that of the 767-300ER.

The wing. If they were able to put a larger wing on it, they could have gotten more range. DL's requirement that it fit into LGA doomed that idea.
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:55 pm

Quoting a380787 (Reply 30):
BA flies 772 to EWR with F.

EWR is still a much smaller F market than JFK. CX sends F 4 times a day to JFK and no first class to EWR. Other airlines who fly F to EWR do not have appropriate two-class aircraft. I much prefer the convenience of EWR over JFK so I am not among the haters, but I won't deny the fact that EWR attracts much less F.

Now why UA sends F on EWR-GVA but not EWR-HKG is beyond me.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:06 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 33):

I make sure that I'm right when I make declarative statements such as you did re: BA and the 772 at EWR. Maybe you should do the same?

I'll do it when you stop chastising EWR at every turn because you have a hidden agenda
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:33 pm

Quoting a380787 (Reply 36):
I'll do it when you stop chastising EWR at every turn because you have a hidden agenda

So you're going to continue to knowingly post incorrect information just because I post correct information about EWR? Uh.... yeah, that makes sense.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:47 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 37):

"Correct" in your own mind

Your original statement that EWR has *NO* F demand is already blatantly false
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:49 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 31):
Not today they aren't.
Quoting a380787 (Reply 32):
I searched for summer schedule and I see F seats on that 772... Maybe it's a winter thing
Quoting N62NA (Reply 33):
I make sure that I'm right when I make declarative statements such as you did re: BA and the 772 at EWR. Maybe you should do the same?
Quoting N62NA (Reply 37):
So you're going to continue to knowingly post incorrect information just because I post correct information about EWR? Uh.... yeah, that makes sense.

N62NA don't be such a dick. You chose 1 specific day for which you were technically correct, but BA flew the 777 on the route 5 of 7 days this week. You're wrong, get over it and stop attacking other posters. This thread is not about JFK vs EWR, take your drivel elsewhere.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:53 pm

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 39):
N62NA don't be such a dick. You chose 1 specific day for which you were technically correct, but BA flew the 777 on the route 5 of 7 days this week. You're wrong, get over it and stop attacking other posters. This thread is not about JFK vs EWR, take your drivel elsewhere.

I spent one minute yesterday to pull up the BA schedule for that day. It was all 788. There is no plan to "attack other posters" - however, the other poster posted something that was false.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:58 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 40):

You searched ONE DAY and used that to project out 365 days ... I'm glad my company didn't hire you
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:03 pm

Quoting a380787 (Reply 41):
You searched ONE DAY and used that to project out 365 days

It's very telling if a route can't sustain even a single daily flight with F class. And we're not talking EWR-SDF here, it's one of the (if not the) most premium routes in the world: NYC-LHR.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:17 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 42):

It's very telling if a route can't sustain even a single daily flight with F class. And we're not talking EWR-SDF here, it's one of the (if not the) most premium routes in the world: NYC-LHR.

You're spewing false information again. UA has 3 flights using 3-class 763 daily on EWR-LHR in the summer.

Before you continue spreading false propaganda, please do some homework.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:20 pm

Quoting a380787 (Reply 41):

The selective data mining is par for the course. Just ignore it
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:38 pm

Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 35):

b/c that 767-300 cannot make it EWR-HKG!!!
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:13 pm

It's the same old story with certain posters. Best not to fall into the trap again.

Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 35):
Now why UA sends F on EWR-GVA but not EWR-HKG is beyond me.

EWR-HKG is just about a bridge too far for the sUA Pratt-powered 772s. If the rumored UA 77Ws come with a F cabin, I wouldn't be shocked to see them appear on EWR-HKG.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:56 am

Thanks for the replies. I'm glad United is still using the 764s, even if it means less 787s at Newark.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 34):
The wing. If they were able to put a larger wing on it, they could have gotten more range. DL's requirement that it fit into LGA doomed that idea.

Why was that a requirement? I have never heard of a 767 at LGA.

Quoting N62NA (Reply 40):
I spent one minute yesterday to pull up the BA schedule for that day. It was all 788.

It's 777s and 787s.

[Edited 2015-03-05 18:06:16]
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:31 pm

Quoting NYPECO (Reply 47):
Why was that a requirement? I have never heard of a 767 at LGA.

DL flew the 764 ATL-LGA until November 2005. Not sure why they required that though.
 
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RE: United 787s At Newark

Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:40 pm

Quoting NYPECO (Reply 47):
Why was that a requirement? I have never heard of a 767 at LGA.

It was replacing L10s that regularly flew into LGA, but that was long ago and far away at this point.
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Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos