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Quoting NZ107 (Reply 4): Maybe a new 5th freedom to AKL this year from Australia by way of AirAsia X. |
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Quoting 777ER (Reply 8): I can also see WLG and CHC flights with maybe ZQN being added as seasonal. A320s flying from New Zealand to each of BNE, SYD and MEL with one market served from each airport with connecting flights to Asia. |
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Quoting 777ER (Reply 12): Just been looking at airpoints/atatus points earning for flight to Australia and the Islands. You now earn between 60-100% more flying to the Islands then flying to Australia! Sad how NZ feels it needs to destroy earning rates to Australia.....great way to make customers move to Qantas/Oneworld |
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Quoting xiaotung (Reply 13): Quoting 777ER (Reply 12): Just been looking at airpoints/atatus points earning for flight to Australia and the Islands. You now earn between 60-100% more flying to the Islands then flying to Australia! Sad how NZ feels it needs to destroy earning rates to Australia.....great way to make customers move to Qantas/Oneworld This is the problem with the revenue based programme. When it's purely based on fare amount less taxes across the network, it does not take into account competition and loyalty. From marketing point of view, when there is more competition, more points should be given to entice customers but Airpoints has gone the other way. |
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Quoting 777ER (Reply 14): Its now way easier/cheaper to maintain status with doing an Islands return trip compared to flying to/from Australia. Why fly NZ/VA to Australia when QF/EK treats you better in terms of baggage, IFE, meals and points/status? |
Quoting zkeoj (Reply 18): Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 17):Well I am booked to fly on the CV580 to WHK. I hope they swap aircraft for a Dc3 on one sector if I'm lucky. Tick for new airline and type anyway. Never been on a Metro, so I'll look out for that one |
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Quoting 777ER (Reply 21): Yes AKL doesn't have as much quality QF/EK services, but being stuck on a B738 isn't bad. I've been on a B738 for nearly 5 hours and its bearable |
Quoting nz2 (Reply 22): It is bad if it is a QF 738, pitch is so small even me at 5'7 had to turn sideways a little as my knees dug into the seat in front, I was forced to fly it twice to SYD and never again, I pay more to fly NZ and avoid QF at all costs |
Quoting gasman (Reply 23): Quoting nz2 (Reply 22):It is bad if it is a QF 738, pitch is so small even me at 5'7 had to turn sideways a little as my knees dug into the seat in front, I was forced to fly it twice to SYD and never again, I pay more to fly NZ and avoid QF at all costs Each to their own. I'd be lying if I didn't admit I'd far prefer a 763, or 744, or A380 on the Tasman, but even at my 6'3" I find QFs 738s tolerable for flights of trans-Tasman length. Certainly in the same ballpark as NZ's A320s (which I do concede are slightly better). |
Quoting zkncj (Reply 24): Every Time I've been on an QF 738, I've found the leg room to be around the same as Jetstar (pain full for anyone over 5'10). |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 25): Jetstar is 29", Qantas is 30". Guess it depends how you sit in the seat in terms of comfort levels as I've only found JQ to be slightly uncomfortable in terms of legroom. Plus having the seat in front of you so close to you just doesn't feel nice |
Quoting gasman (Reply 27): It amuses me that we're having this discussion over this level of product. I recall a conversation I had with a colleague in the early 90's. He always flew QF across the Tasman because you were much more likely to get a 747, as opposed to NZ which would almost always be a 767. Oh how times have changed! |
Quoting zkncj (Reply 28): In the last 10 years Qantas has really pulled back on the tasman |
Quoting gasman (Reply 23): I'd be lying if I didn't admit I'd far prefer a 763 |
Quoting zkncj (Reply 26): It's way better than being stuck with an finished tray in front of you for 40minutes before the crew collect them |
Quoting zkeoj (Reply 16): Why bother giving $1 at all? |
Quoting zkeoj (Reply 18): Never been on a Metro, so I'll look out for that one |
Quoting zkncj (Reply 20): Qantas you're stuck with 738s, and that daily EK A380 flight which doesn't have the best timming. |
Quoting gasman (Reply 23): Certainly in the same ballpark as NZ's A320s (which I do concede are slightly better). |
Quoting gasman (Reply 27): I agree, NZ provide a better product than QF across the Tasman - although not by a huge margin. At least QF does provide the option of J on every flight. |
Quoting gasman (Reply 29): The Tasman is the one market in NZ's network where competition really is cutthroat and margins are slim. |
Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 34): Quoting zkeoj (Reply 18): Never been on a Metro, so I'll look out for that one Yeesh, I did a charter on one recently. Fun to tick off another type but my god that'll be the last trip on one of those. Though in fairness the weather didn't help. |
Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 34): Quoting gasman (Reply 23): Certainly in the same ballpark as NZ's A320s (which I do concede are slightly better). Quoting gasman (Reply 27): I agree, NZ provide a better product than QF across the Tasman - although not by a huge margin. At least QF does provide the option of J on every flight. I'm surprised by this sentiment. The NZ 320s are, in my opinion, pretty stock-standard ordinary. Since they changed the brown leather seats to the black nylon ones, the 320s have really been subpar. The IFE is very ordinary, the inflight meals sub-ordinary, the service is hit and miss. While I find QF is pretty clinical they always strike me as more professional, with better food and IFE. Not to mention very price competitive and with an overall better product offering (meals, luggage, IFE). It's also a consistent product. And now you have the oddity of VA with business class seats and NZ 320s without - bummer for J pax that actually have their frequency options reduced if they want to stick with business. Ironic given they are usually the justification for higher frequencies. |
Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 34): Quoting gasman (Reply 27): I agree, NZ provide a better product than QF across the Tasman - although not by a huge margin. At least QF does provide the option of J on every flight. I'm surprised by this sentiment. The NZ 320s are, in my opinion, pretty stock-standard ordinary. |
Quoting gasman (Reply 27): It amuses me that we're having this discussion over this level of product. |
Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 34): While I find QF is pretty clinical they always strike me as more professional, with better food and IFE. |
Quoting Sylus (Reply 6): Invercargill is set to get it's first international charter. Some of you may enjoy this article.. |
Quote: The House of Travel Lakers owner-operator said he could not quite believe he had pulled off what would be a historic package involving Air New Zealand cancelling a scheduled Christchurch to Melbourne flight on November 3 and giving it to him. |
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Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 34): 'm surprised by this sentiment. The NZ 320s are, in my opinion, pretty stock-standard ordinary. Since they changed the brown leather seats to the black nylon ones, the 320s have really been subpar. |
Quoting gasman (Reply 42): Just received my complimentary Qantas Gold pack, |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 43): Wonder where my pack is.. |
Quoting Unclekoru (Reply 35): There will be some reduction in 777 flying across the Tasman (and to the Pacific) once EZE starts. I believe this is why the 767s are being kept longer. |
Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 45): I've lost track of the 772 refurbishment (mainly because I've been flying AC to SYD). Does anyone know what the chances are of getting a refurbished a/c on the scheduled 772 flights to from SFO/LAX/YVR in early May. I hate the 773 PE, and the old 9 abreast 772 PE is not worth the extra cost. |
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Quoting DavidByrne (Reply 39): Tonight I realised that the numbers, NZ281 and NZ282, are probably the former SQ flight numbers. |