South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 3

727LOVER · Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:43 pm

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 30):
You know PBI is airline serviced by all the usual domestic culprits, right?

Yes. Egad!

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 30):
The number of airline operations at PBI is more or less just a little higher than at SRQ.

If I had to guess, I'd say about 40 more flights. PBI has about twice the gates of SRQ

Quoting Miami (Reply 87):
Just got an update. It seems Condor will start MIA next month!

This is in addition to FLL?...or is this a move?

lpdal · Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:14 pm

MAH4546, Ozzell, and Miami,

I'm doing some research for my upcoming MIA✈TPA✈MIA report and need the following questions answered.

1) One what date or at what point did AA Mainline start flying MIA-TPA-MIA?

2) Did Eagle, it's contracted regional carriers, or Eagle ever fly this route? If so, when did they start, and what aircraft were on the route?

3) At what point did US Airways Mainline start flying MIA-TPA-MIA, and when was this service discontinued in the last few months?

Thank you,

-Colby

rta · Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:31 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 96):

Well, it's a done deal. American nixes PBI-LAX.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business...bi-lax-flights-20150406-story.html

I wonder why. The article made it sound like the route was doing well.

miaintl · Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:05 pm

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 99):

Why is SU not going daily to MIA yet?

uberflieger · Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:43 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 103):
Why is SU not going daily to MIA yet?

Because of geography there's many convenient 1 stop options. Lots of competition Moscow to MIA. Add to that the dramatic decline of the Russian currency, which is making it more expensive for their airlines to operate abroad and is decreasing demand.

You seem very passionate about the Russian airlines? What gives?

greenjet · Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:02 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 100):
This is in addition to FLL?...or is this a move?

Looks like a move. However, with just 45 days remaining until the supposed commencement of MIA flights there has been no official announcement and the airline continues to take reservations for FLL ops.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 100):
If I had to guess, I'd say about 40 more flights. PBI has about twice the gates of SRQ

Yeah, quite a gulf between the two. Some stats for 2014:
SRQ: 1.2 million pax; 16,696 airline movements
PBI: 5.9 million pax, 52,110 airline movements

Looks like FLL's north runway will be closed between 7.30am and 10.30am on Monday, April 13th and between 12.01am and 10.30am the following day. Will be interesting to see how the airport copes with single runway ops on the new runway, albeit for a limited period of time.

skybird77 · Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:04 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 84):
Newest member of the 787 family in MIA.

I think we are lucky here in So. Florida to see various Dreamliners. LAN (and now with the 789), Arke, Air Europa starting this month, and Norwegian at FLL. Last year we did have a UA 788 land due to a (medical?) diversion (the IAH-LOS flight). Has AA sneaked in a 788 test flight to MIA?

rta · Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:38 am

Quoting SkyBird77 (Reply 106):
Has AA sneaked in a 788 test flight to MIA?

AFAIK, they haven't.

Miami · Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:34 am

Quoting SkyBird77 (Reply 106):
Has AA sneaked in a 788 test flight to MIA?

I've gotten word that MIA is preparing for the arrival soon.

lpdal · Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:07 pm

When did AA stop regular McDonell Douglas Super 80 (MD-80) ops at MIA?

-LPDAL

uberflieger · Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:03 pm

MIA to double automated passport control kiosks.
http://www.incentivetravel.co.uk/new...rt-to-roll-out-44-more-sita-kiosks
Excellent news!

MesaFlyGuy · Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:40 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 103):

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 99):

Why is SU not going daily to MIA yet?

Because the current frequency must serve the market well. It's a common misconception that, if a flight isn't run daily, it's not successful.

rta · Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:14 am

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 109):

When did AA stop regular McDonell Douglas Super 80 (MD-80) ops at MIA?

I read somewhere, 2005.
I have no clue how correct that is though.
edit, here we go: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...e-mia-10-years-april-3-2005-a.html

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 110):

MIA to double automated passport control kiosks.
http://www.incentivetravel.co.uk/new...rt-to-roll-out-44-more-sita-kiosks
Excellent news!

Much needed!

[Edited 2015-04-08 17:16:38]

kaminari · Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:00 am

Quoting greenjet (Reply 105):
Looks like FLL's north runway will be closed between 7.30am and 10.30am on Monday, April 13th and between 12.01am and 10.30am the following day.

Great time for spotting the Greenbelt or Hibiscus! It will be closed more than just then too, mostly at night. They're doing pavement assessments for an upcoming rehab project for 10L in the next year. Nearly two years of 800(ish) ops a day has beaten it up quite a bit.
The biggest problem of course with closing 10L are the noise complaints. There are still swarms of people trying to shut down the south runway (which, contrary to belief, does NOT close at night like 9R did). I was in the Greenbelt not that long ago and there was a man there in a golf cart and a decibel reader who owned a house in Melaleuca Gardens and somewhere in the approach path. He gave me an earful on his sob story about the noise. I just smiled and nodded.

Anyway, this will be tomorrow for spotters:

Quoting Flopped (Reply 38):
In the morning time (11ish, I think, not certain) of 4/9, Tompson will be doing a similar charter using a 763.

greenjet · Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:10 am

Quoting kaminari (Reply 113):
Anyway, this will be tomorrow for spotters:

Quoting Flopped (Reply 38):
In the morning time (11ish, I think, not certain) of 4/9, Tompson will be doing a similar charter using a 763.

Yes, scheduled to arrive from OSL at 11.55am and depart to CUN at 1.55pm.

skybird77 · Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:19 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 108):
I've gotten word that MIA is preparing for the arrival soon.

Miami, if you can, please give us a "heads up" when we may expect it. Thanks!

lpdal · Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:53 am

Thanks for the information, RTA. I was wondering what this was, across from MIA;

LPDAL's Photostream on Flickr - Photo Sharing
Across from MIA, N234AA had its engines and some other parts stripped, subsequently being donated to the George T. Baker Aviation School....

....in an outright amazing logistics operation.

-LPDAL

rta · Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:45 am

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 116):
Thanks for the information, RTA.

No problem. Also I'm not sure if you saw me ask in your latest TR, but were you planning on catching one of AA's 788s? They're running domestically next month. I think it'd make a cool report. I'm flying it next month ORD-DFW... pretty excited for my first 788 flight! bouncy

Quoting SkyBird77 (Reply 115):
Miami, if you can, please give us a "heads up" when we may expect it. Thanks!

[Edited 2015-04-08 23:49:35]

lpdal · Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:02 pm

Quoting rta (Reply 117):

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 116):
Thanks for the information, RTA.

No problem. Also I'm not sure if you saw me ask in your latest TR, but were you planning on catching one of AA's 788s? They're running domestically next month. I think it'd make a cool report. I'm flying it next month ORD-DFW... pretty excited for my first 788 flight! bouncy

Quoting SkyBird77 (Reply 115):
Miami, if you can, please give us a "heads up" when we may expect it. Thanks!

[Edited 2015-04-08 23:49:35]

While that sounds fun, and I appreciatd your suggestion, RTA, I'm planning trips to other destinations around those dates. Not to mention, I've never been someone to care about whether I'm first or forty-second to do something, that it happens is all that matters to me.

-LPDAL

Miami · Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:39 pm

For anyone interested. Here's the leased 787 from LOT Polish that will be operated by Air Europa.

https://twitter.com/AlbertoPajaroto

Air Europa will use this beauty for MIA operations! Service starts April 12.

rta · Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:06 pm

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 118):
While that sounds fun, and I appreciatd your suggestion, RTA, I'm planning trips to other destinations around those dates. Not to mention, I've never been someone to care about whether I'm first or forty-second to do something, that it happens is all that matters to me.

I see, well I'll be sure to look out for your other reports

And also, no worries, I didn't mean it that that way. I meant it only in the sense its usually hard to get on these planes (at least for me, they don' t normally fly where I can easily catch one)

Quoting Miami (Reply 119):
For anyone interested. Here's the leased 787 from LOT Polish that will be operated by Air Europa.

That, uh... livery, is quite interesting.
À la CO + UA

miaintl · Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:47 pm

Quoting MesaFlyGuy (Reply 111):

What is the current O&D between Miami and Russia? Not just Moscow though.

saleya22r · Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:15 pm

Hi guys, not sure if this has been discussed earlier in the long thread:

With the growing traffic, is anything happening in MIA regarding the bottleneck at the border control as the queues at peak hours are just getting longer..specially when flights from Europe arrive during the afternoon and evening hours, more A380 operators etc. So are there any planned or ongoing improvements?

On a side note, only a few airports outside Canada and the Caribbean have the U.S. pre clearance service, in Europe only in Ireland AFAIK although Oslo was discussed in Norwegian media some time ago. Border control on this side of the pond at major airports would certainly help but will it ever be implemented?
Incidentally, I'm flying to MIA with IB 6117 on May 6, can even give some feedback about the queues that evening..

uberflieger · Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:26 pm

Quoting saleya22r (Reply 122):
anything happening in MIA regarding the bottleneck at the border control

MIA is adding 44 automated passport kiosks.

http://www.incentivetravel.co.uk/new...rt-to-roll-out-44-more-sita-kiosks
6th May though is just around the corner in Miami time

saleya22r · Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:39 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 123):
MIA is adding 44 automated passport kiosks

Thanks for the info. Your link did not open, but I found this:

"Who Is Eligible to Use APC?

U.S. and Canadian passport holders and international visitors from Visa Waiver Program countries are eligible to use APC kiosks. Visa Waiver Program visitors must have Electronic System for Travel Authorizations (ESTA) approval prior to travel and have visited the United States on at least one occasion after 2008"

From the Homeland Security web site

This is good news of course. So EU passport holders with ESTA can use the APC, not just US and Canadian citizens as I first thought?
Probable easy to use too even when jet lagged

?

rta · Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:15 pm

Quoting saleya22r (Reply 124):
This is good news of course. So EU passport holders with ESTA can use the APC, not just US and Canadian citizens as I first thought?
Probable easy to use too even when jet lagged ?

Yep. I saw a lot of EU passport holders using it last time. It's also pretty easy to use too. IIRC it is basically just the landing card, but electronically.

kaminari · Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:47 pm

APC kiosks are very easy, but if you are going to the US with a first time/newly renewed ESTA, you generally have to see a CBP agent instead. Only visa and non/new-ESTA state citizens can't use it, but by the end of the year, everyone should be able to use APC.
I know FLL is planning to get more than the 20 they have now, and when Concourse A customs is built, it will include APC machines also.

Miami · Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:35 pm

New Airline Alert: Aruba Airlines will begin MIA, 5x a week on a A320. Service starts July 2nd.

miaintl · Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:14 am

Where will the BA 380 be parked? What gate? Also will the 2nd daily VS flight to LHR be year-round?

Miami · Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:26 am

Quoting miaintl (Reply 128):
Where will the BA 380 be parked?

When she first arrives, she'll park at E6/8 and then after construction is completed for the new gate, she'll then move to D1/D2.

Quoting miaintl (Reply 128):
will the 2nd daily VS flight to LHR be year-round?

Winter seasonal.

miaintl · Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:20 pm

Is the BA 380 year-round in MIA? Is OS still flying 5x weekly to MIA in the summer season with the 767?

Miami · Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:50 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 130):
Is the BA 380 year-round in MIA?

Right now, it will be seasonal.

Quoting miaintl (Reply 130):
Is OS still flying 5x weekly to MIA in the summer season with the 767?

Are you asking about the frequency or aircraft?

miaintl · Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:25 pm

Both frequency and aircraft.

Miami · Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:27 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 132):

Are you serious? It hasn't been even a week since they said they would be sending the 767 for the Summer season.

The frequency would be 5x weekly.

Look at post 95.

miaintl · Sat Apr 11, 2015 6:37 pm

I checked OS schedule and they say 3x weekly. It also seems LX is axing all MIA flights in April 2016. Those flights are no longer on the schedule according to the flight planner page on the MIA Airport website.

[Edited 2015-04-11 11:43:18]

MAH4546 · Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:47 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 134):
I checked OS schedule and they say 3x weekly. It also seems LX is axing all MIA flights in April 2016. Those flights are no longer on the schedule according to the flight planner page on the MIA Airport website.

[Edited 2015-04-11 11:43:18]

LOL. Yup. Swiss is gone, so is Lufthansa. British Airways is leaving in February 2018, so get your last pictures.

Miami · Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:18 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 134):
I checked OS schedule and they say 3x weekly.

It's 5 weekly.

Quoting miaintl (Reply 134):
It also seems LX is axing all MIA flights in April 2016.

Lmao! Funniest thing I've seen today.

You can buy a ticket only up to 11 months in advance. That's why it shows up that you can't.

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 135):
Swiss is gone, so is Lufthansa. British Airways is leaving in February 2018, so get your last pictures.

Man! I gotta get ready.

I heard American is also planning to axe all MIA operations.

SCL767 · Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:42 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 93):
LAN plans 787-9 service on SCL-MIA from August 21 to September 15.

Fantastic that LAN "plans" 787-9 service on the SCL-MIA route for a short period; even though LAN has already operated 36 B-787-9 operated flights on the SCL-MIA route! Regarding the MIA-SCL route, AA will reduce capacity on the route effective 04JUNE (source: AA.com) and will redeploy the 767 on the route daily....

OB1504 · Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:50 am

Quoting miaintl (Reply 134):
I checked OS schedule and they say 3x weekly. It also seems LX is axing all MIA flights in April 2016. Those flights are no longer on the schedule according to the flight planner page on the MIA Airport website.

That makes sense, considering that's when the Everglades Jetport should be fully operational. MIA will be decommissioned and the existing airport property repurposed as a rock quarry.

miaintl · Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:58 pm

Anybody got updates on TK and MIA by any chance?

lpdal · Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:48 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 136):
I heard American is also planning to axe all MIA operations.

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 138):
That makes sense, considering that's when the Everglades Jetport should be fully operational. MIA will be decommissioned and the existing airport property repurposed as a rock quarry.

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 135):
LOL. Yup. Swiss is gone, so is Lufthansa. British Airways is leaving in February 2018, so get your last pictures.

Guys, I have a secret informant that has made me aware that SAA (South African Airways) is going to hub PBI with 20 weekly PBI-JNB-PBI flights spearheading the operation. Nico Bezuidenhout, the company's 87th CEO in 2015 so far, claims that "West Palm Beach is a chronically underserved market for South African traffic. This new venture will lead our airline to flourish in today's harsh economic climate."

-LPDAL

Miami · Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:12 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 137):

I know that. But it's actually daily instead of a switch with the -8 from time to time.

Miami · Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:13 am

Air Europa has started 787 service to MIA today.

adamh8297 · Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:28 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 127):

New Airline Alert: Aruba Airlines will begin MIA, 5x a week on a A320. Service starts July 2nd.

Is that Insel Air Aruba????

mugler · Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:32 am

Courtesy of Miami Spotter !

Beautiful aircraft, had the chance to see it personally landing at MIA today

Source

[Edited 2015-04-12 18:32:05]

mugler · Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:34 am

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 143):
Is that Insel Air Aruba????

Nope it is Aruba Airlines ICAO code ARU, they have a fleet of 2 A320-200

lpdal · Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:34 am

Four Dead In Fort Lauderdale Plane Crash (by Ardent15 Apr 12 2015 in Civil Aviation)

-LPDAL

Miami · Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:12 pm

Quoting mugler (Reply 144):

Another pic.

LOT Polish Airlines SP-LRF by Lazaro C., on Flickr

rta · Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:27 pm

The wing flex

lpdal · Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:24 pm

My latest South Floridian trip report up here: US Airways First Class+DSLR Stolen@MIA|MIA✈TPA✈MIA (by LPDAL Apr 14 2015 in Trip Reports)

-LPDAL

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