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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:13 pm

Unable to edit my post. I was asking about the stats from reply 42.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:34 pm

Quoting cathay747 (Reply 13):
Hmmmm...yeah, thought it could be too, except for the bizarre call sign.. a military
drone??? WHY? That was my 1st thought to be honest.
Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 19):
I'd be somewhat skeptical that the aircraft in question was DHS CBP. They'd really have no reason to conduct operations in the Phoenix area except under ICE or HSI, and even then, they wouldn't usually be on a flight tracking website. Usually when aircraft are puttering around over the Bravo, they're up there for general interest, aerial photography, cartography, or conducting some sort of law enforcement purpose (generally local law enforcement).

FBI also runs flights at such altitudes. FOr example in Houston they fly similar patterns over parts of the city regularly (this week circling Lake Houston area for example) , though they tend to fly tighter circles leading me to believe more in the joyride theory. I just wanted to mention FBI since they fly as well.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:50 pm

Quoting cathay747 (Reply 48):

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 42):
T-3 stats.
AA -100%

What happened here??

Moving from T3 to T4.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Mar 28, 2015 4:03 pm

I noticed today that over in Terminal 2, they re-did the ramp area (new concrete) and re-installed the jet bridge at Gate 1. Previously it was a Y shaped bridge (with Gate 1A and 1B). But, they just installed a standard bridge.

I also noticed that Gate 2 now has a jet bridge attached (along with new concrete on the ramp area). I don't think Gate 2 has been used since the mid 90's?

Any ideas what's going on? Is UA expanding service out of PHX?

Also, could Gate 4 also be used again? I remember it boarded 1R rather than 1L.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Mar 28, 2015 4:51 pm

Quoting warreng24 (Reply 53):
I noticed today that over in Terminal 2, they re-did the ramp area (new concrete) and re-installed the jet bridge at Gate 1. Previously it was a Y shaped bridge (with Gate 1A and 1B). But, they just installed a standard bridge.

I also noticed that Gate 2 now has a jet bridge attached (along with new concrete on the ramp area). I don't think Gate 2 has been used since the mid 90's?

Any ideas what's going on? Is UA expanding service out of PHX?

Also, could Gate 4 also be used again? I remember it boarded 1R rather than 1L.

Discussed in the last thread. The new gates are for former T3 tenants (NK and SY IIRC). Part of an enabling package moving carriers around that's allowing the demolition/rebuilding of T3S and eventually T3N for remodeling and expansion.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:51 pm

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 46):
They don't have a ramp control. WN has never asked for one. They basically handle it themselves and push with clearance from the tower. Because WN doesn't run in banks and the alleys aren't very large or narrow, there really isn't a need for a ramp control like the north side of T4.

Interesting. I would have assumed they would have had one but looking at it, I can see how they don't need one.

As a side note, it does look like the high B gates and the odd side of the low B gates is going to be re-gated, there were some surveyors out there over the past two days taking measurements. At one point they were measuring up by B11 and seeing if it was possible to fit three CRJ-900s in a B9,B11A and B11B type of setup.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:24 pm

Quoting Alasizon (Reply 55):
As a side note, it does look like the high B gates and the odd side of the low B gates is going to be re-gated

Everything is going to be re-striped and resized when they replace the concrete later this summer. The high A gates (A17-A30) will all be A321-capable, at the expense of two gates (so it'll be A17-A28), and the low A gates will likely lose a gate or two as well.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:28 pm

Quoting cathay747 (Reply 48):
What happened here??
Quoting cathay747 (Reply 48):
How can AA be -100% from T2 and T3? Assuming the combined AA and US are the largest carrier from PHX and PHX showing an increase of 3.1% I would assume the new AA would have stayed roughly the same or slight increase.

Yes, they broke it down by terminal and AA had moved to T-4 from T-3, but they did not do the same thing for AA at T-4.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:44 pm

Quoting Alasizon (Reply 55):

If I remember correctly, a lot of the gate spacing is large enough for A32X/737 aircraft, but they're always used for RJs and have been for many years. It would make sense for them to respace them to fit CRJ/E-Jet to allow for more RJ gate capacity and even free up more mainline gates if that's what they wanted.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:57 pm

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 58):

Quoting Alasizon (Reply 55):

If I remember correctly, a lot of the gate spacing is large enough for A32X/737 aircraft, but they're always used for RJs and have been for many years. It would make sense for them to respace them to fit CRJ/E-Jet to allow for more RJ gate capacity and even free up more mainline gates if that's what they wanted.


Even prior to the restriping in 2011 almost all of the Express gates were sized for RJs. When AA moved to T4 they restriped on N3 and converted B7 to handle Group III and was the only shared gate outside of the CoP gates on N4. It looks like AA wants more space to handle RJs which is probably why B11 is being surveyed to handle RJs again; they haven't regularly used the N3 end gates for Express ops since the early 2000s.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:36 pm

Quoting wn676 (Reply 59):

Oh really? I guess I was mistaken. Either way it always seemed like there was a lot of unused space in the express gates, so it's good they're getting better utilization out of it.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:32 am

Quoting BD338 (Reply 43):
Who is FR? don't recall seeing a Ryanair parked at T3 recently

FRontier Airlines - F9

For some odd reason - probably that the first two letters of their name are FR, there are people that use FR rather than F9 for Frontier.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:26 am

Anyone know who V2 was operating for on 3/28 JFK- PHX?
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:02 am

Quoting Alasizon (Reply 41):
HA was showing as having departed from T3 Gate 5 this morning so I think it is still partially open.

Hawaiian was parked at T3S Saturday night when I landed. There's a fence up around the east side gates, however.

Signs at the SkyTrain station said Sun Country was moving to T2 around April 3 and Spirit was moving around April 10.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:20 pm

HA will be moving to T3N in early April.

Quoting chrisair (Reply 63):
Signs at the SkyTrain station said Sun Country was moving to T2 around April 3 and Spirit was moving around April 10.

I believe that this is the date that they will shut the T3S for all traffic and move all occupying companies to their respective new homes. I remember the press release stating that T3S was closing in early April.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:28 pm

Quoting chrisair (Reply 63):
Hawaiian was parked at T3S Saturday night when I landed. There's a fence up around the east side gates, however.

Signs at the SkyTrain station said Sun Country was moving to T2 around April 3 and Spirit was moving around April 10.
HA will move into Gate 24 sometime after Wednesday. They are have already been planning where all the MX equipment and static racks will be stored at T3N. I believe Swissport (servisair) will be taking over the old NW ops at gates 25 and 26... Also with NK moving to T2 (thank god). That leaves 25 as a multiuse gate for B6, F9, and DL.

Will NK take over the new gates or will United shift their operation down and give two gates like 6 and 7 to NK and SY?

[Edited 2015-03-29 13:29:24]
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:15 pm

Has anyone heard any info on what the plans are for US maintenance base at Sky Harbor once the merger is complete?
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:48 pm

  

Did everyone see the article on page 1D of the Arizona Republic this past Sat., 28MAR?

MZJ is now open to tours!!! "Details: Free tours are by appointment only and subject to
availability. Call Jim Petty, 602-881-8090."

           
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:07 pm

Quoting austwin (Reply 66):

Has anyone heard any info on what the plans are for US maintenance base at Sky Harbor once the merger is complete?

AA is moving forward with plans to expand the hangar apron slightly. It's been a few years in the making, dating back prior to the merger, but should be moving forward in the next couple of months. The plan will push the apron north a few feet, requiring the relocation of the blast fence, and will enable pads B-D to handle A321s and now 737-800s as well.

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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:29 pm

Just saw somebody started a thread about MZJ now open for
tours...my bad...but in any case, there's a link to airportspottingblog:

http://www.airportspotting.com/marana-pinal-airpark-opens-visitors/

...where they quote a different phone # to reach Jim Petty:

Free tours are by appointment only and subject to availability.
Call Jim Petty, 520-866-6545.

So just FYI, not sure which # is accurate...maybe one is his
mobile.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:33 pm

OK...update...I just tried to call him at the 602 # and he
has a voice greeting saying that if you're calling about the
article in AZ Republic to call the 520-866-6545 number
during normal business hours Mon.-Fri. (doesn't say what
those hours are).
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:41 pm

Another update:

Just spoke w/him...no tours now on weekends,
only Mon.-Fri. when he works. They may expand this in the future
but they don't have staffing for it now. And while Marana
Aerospace Solutions doesn't like picture taking, the signs
saying it's prohibited have been taken down, and there's
nothing they can do about it. If you go on a weekend, when
there's no tour, you can at least now go up to the fence, and
that combined with being able to take pictures is alone a
huge improvement!
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:44 pm

Thanks for the update Wn676. Great news for the employees!
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:20 pm

Quoting austwin (Reply 72):

Thanks for the update Wn676. Great news for the employees!


Should help alleviate some of the RON parking issues that came with the AA co-location last year. I'm not sure if they've made some adjustments to the schedule as well but the hangar apron has been a limiting factor since only certain pads can handle the stretch bus currently.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:30 pm

Quoting cathay747 (Reply 71):
If you go on a weekend, when
there's no tour, you can at least now go up to the fence, and
that combined with being able to take pictures is alone a
huge improvement!

Just want to add a word of warning: there's still an active military operation to the north of the Marana Aerospace area, so exercise caution if you're roaming around the fence by the military area. There are still MPs that patrol over there.

I've driven around over there a few times already. It's neat going out there.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:02 pm

Quoting chrisair (Reply 74):
Just want to add a word of warning: there's still an active military operation to the north of the Marana Aerospace area, so exercise caution if you're roaming around the fence by the military area. There are still MPs that patrol over there.

Oh yeah, good point...will steer clear of that area! But good to point that
out for everyone.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:30 pm

Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 62):
Anyone know who V2 was operating for on 3/28 JFK- PHX?

It was a ferry flight to position for upcoming SF Giants charter flights.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:59 am

Does anyone know if there were any special charters for baseball teams during spring training this year like in years past? I didn't see anything posted about it on here, so I'm guessing not. It was a treat in past years to see the QF 744 flights to SYD, the JAL 77W, the BR 77W, and I think Atlas had a couple of chartered 744s at some point, so it's disappointing not to see anything special scheduled for this year if that's the case.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:36 am

Quoting Beefmoney (Reply 76):
It was a ferry flight to position for upcoming SF Giants charter flights.

Thanks for the info
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:35 pm

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 77):

Does anyone know if there were any special charters for baseball teams during spring training this year like in years past? I didn't see anything posted about it on here, so I'm guessing not. It was a treat in past years to see the QF 744 flights to SYD, the JAL 77W, the BR 77W, and I think Atlas had a couple of chartered 744s at some point, so it's disappointing not to see anything special scheduled for this year if that's the case.

Generally those have been during the WBC or when one of the Cactus league team opens overseas. Nothing huge this year so no big charters. I believe there are a few teams opening in Japan next year so we may see some JAL
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:07 pm

HA still shows using Gate 5 in their FLIFO all thru this Friday 10APR.
I thought somebody on here said they were moving to T3N early
this week?
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:25 pm

Hey guys...I'm getting a "database error" when trying to
access the Forums on PHXSPOTTERS.COM. Can't even
get to the "Help" page/forum.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:35 pm

Quoting cathay747 (Reply 81):
Hey guys...I'm getting a "database error" when trying to
access the Forums on PHXSPOTTERS.COM. Can't even
get to the "Help" page/forum.

Yeah, something happened over the weekend. It's being looked into, and hopefully it will be up and running again soon.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:56 pm

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 82):
Yeah, something happened over the weekend. It's being looked into, and hopefully it will be up and running again soon.

Great thanks, glad to know it's a known issue.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:38 pm

Well they sent the date for Sun Country and Spirit moving to T2. The following is from an e-mail:

Beginning Wednesday, April 8, all Sun Country flights will operate out of Terminal 2.
Effective Thursday, April 16, at 6 p.m., all Spirit Airlines flights will operate out of Terminal 2.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:33 pm

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 84):
Well they sent the date for Sun Country and Spirit moving to T2. The following is from an e-mail:

Beginning Wednesday, April 8, all Sun Country flights will operate out of Terminal 2.
Effective Thursday, April 16, at 6 p.m., all Spirit Airlines flights will operate out of Terminal 2.

Huh. Well I guess we just wait till there's official word about HA,
no point speculating.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:01 pm

Solar Impulse will come to PHX in May for three days, but due to weather in China the exact date cannot be totally determined right now.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/money...global-trip-stop-phoenix/25607971/

Quoting cathay747 (Reply 85):
Huh. Well I guess we just wait till there's official word about HA,
no point speculating.

I don't think that they will say anything as HA is staying in T-3. People do not need to be informed to go to a different terminal. As of last Friday it was still in G5 South.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:30 pm

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 86):
Solar Impulse will come to PHX in May for three days, but due to weather in China the exact date cannot be totally determined right now.

Is this the same one that came here in 2013 that looked like some UFO when landing?
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:28 pm

Quoting chrisair (Reply 87):
Is this the same one that came here in 2013 that looked like some UFO when landing?

I believe so.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:42 am

Quoting cathay747 (Reply 85):
Huh. Well I guess we just wait till there's official word about HA,
no point speculating.

Are you serious? HA is just moving from the southside to the northside... All they have to do is change signage in the terminal and put up logos at gate 24 why do there need to be announcements like they did with SY and NK?
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:52 pm

Quoting Aztrainer (Reply 86):
I don't think that they will say anything as HA is staying in T-3. People do not need to be informed to go to a different terminal.
Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 89):
Are you serious? HA is just moving from the southside to the northside... All they have to do is change signage in the terminal and put up logos at gate 24 why do there need to be announcements like they did with SY and NK?

You're both making a correct point, I wasn't thinking.
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:19 pm

I noticed this morning that on the east side of the T3 south concourse they had started to install the temporary security fence around the concourse. HA 767 was using the normal gate on the south side but guess it can't be long before they move and work starts on demo.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:41 pm

Quoting BD338 (Reply 91):

I noticed this morning that on the east side of the T3 south concourse they had started to install the temporary security fence around the concourse.

That fence has been up for a few weeks at least. I noticed it a few weeks ago when I caught a DL flight.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:02 pm

A few rumors floating around that the current BA flight will be switched to an AA 77W? Anyone have more information on this?
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:36 pm

There was a thread on it:

RUMOR: AA Bringing Heavies To PHX (by MesaFlyGuy Apr 3 2015 in Civil Aviation)

Seems like the rumor was debunked.
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:59 pm

Has anyone checked out the documents that FAA sent PHX about the new nexgen nav recommendations? I'm not in aviation, so I don't understand most of the terms. It seems to me that they are recommending a higher climb rate and powering back the engines at some point to address the issues. I assume that is similar to what is done now at SNA. Copies are posted on PHXSKYHARBOR.com
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:04 pm

So today is the day at 1800 NK moves operations from T3N to T2. I believe HA will be all moved over by the end of this week if not next week. It is pretty impressive how fast they are getting underway with the T3 project.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 93):
A few rumors floating around that the current BA flight will be switched to an AA 77W? Anyone have more information on this?
 
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:52 am

How many times a day does that 787 pass through PHX on training flights?

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 96):

I don't even lol
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:32 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 97):
How many times a day does that 787 pass through PHX on training flights?

Usually twice, when it does stop by. Once around 8AM, and again about 6PM
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RE: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 13

Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:52 pm

Any hope of getting the IMAX movie to any of the valley theaters?

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