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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:52 am

I don't want to speculate anything but isn't this very similar to Air Asia accident ?

and re: maintenance issue, I'm still under impression that low cost carrier or not, safety comes first.
 
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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:53 am

Photos on Twitter show the cvr to be badly damaged.
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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:53 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 55):
Honestly, the only scenario I can think of that fits the available information is that something struck the cockpit incapacitating both crew and disengaging the A/P. But what could possibly strike the cabin at FL 380? Birds don't go that high.

... actually, geese have been known to ascend over mountain ranges above FL300, so it is certainly not beyond the realm of possibility that it could be a direct bird-strike.

Don't forget the Pan Am 747 that took a direct hit on the nose cone at cruise over the Atlantic.

Extremely unlike, of course, but possible? Yes.

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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:55 am

[quote=JimJupiter,reply=196][/quote ]
At least on hs.fi, the most respectef newspaper in Finland, our top aviation safety official claimed it to be factual information. He didn't mention exact source, probably he had contacts to other European aviation officials.
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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:57 am

Known nationalities of the casualties, according to Germanwings press conference:

Germany 72
Spain 35
Australia 2
Argentina 2
Iran 2
Venezuela 2
US 2
UK 1
Netherlands 1
Colombia 1
Mexico 1
Japan 1
Israel 1
Denmark 1
Belgium 1

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellsch...s-a320-in-frankreich-13503027.html

[Edited 2015-03-25 04:58:24]

Quoting pvjin (Reply 203):

Thank you.


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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:00 pm

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 201):
Photos on Twitter show the cvr to be badly damaged.

The important part looks fine, though.
 
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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:00 pm

 
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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:03 pm

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 201):
Photos on Twitter show the cvr to be badly damaged.

The central cylinder looks okay. Most important part, no?
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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:03 pm

Just heard on France Inter's 1pm bulletin that we may hear the first clues explaining the crash later this afternoon (Paris time).
 
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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:03 pm

Quoting JimJupiter (Reply 204):
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 201):
Photos on Twitter show the cvr to be badly damaged.

The important part looks fine, though.

  
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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:06 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 208):
Just heard on France Inter's 1pm bulletin that we may hear the first clues explaining the crash later this afternoon (Paris time).

Press conference at 4 pm:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 181):
for 4 pm (15:00 UTC) the french BAE will hold a press conference and they might release the initial information about that accident.
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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:07 pm

I might put this hypothesis forward:

1. Front windscreen fails, perhaps even breaks.
2. Damaged glass incapacitates one or both pilots.
3. At least one pilot is able to reach the altitude gauge of the auto pilot and adjusts for something quick below FL10. Decent engages.
4. Said pilot dies of asphyxiation before he can push the button to drop O2 masks. Or perhaps can't see as he is blind due to broken glass / conditions in cockpit.
5. Entire crew and passengers die within 30 seconds due to asphyxiation. Aside from pilots, they die peacefully.
6. Everyone is thankfully dead when they encounter proximity warning.
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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:07 pm

And we are moving to part 5 now:

Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 5 (by wilco737 Mar 25 2015 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS! Part 4

Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:12 pm

Quoting JimJupiter (Reply 204):
Known nationalities of the casualties, according to Germanwings press conference:

I do not see it posted on the GermanWings website.

 

25.03. 09:15 a.m.: Germanwings with normal flight operations today/ one cancellation / eleven aircraft and crews from Lufthansa, Air Berlin and TuiFly

Following the incident in France yesterday, Germanwings cancels one flight today and operates the remaining flights according to schedule. Due to emotional distress, some crew members are also unfit for service today. Germanwings understands these circumstances, as crew members have lost beloved colleagues in the incident.

Today, Germanwings operates eleven aircraft, predominantly from other airlines like Lufthansa, Air Berlin and TuiFly on approximately 40 flights.


https://www.germanwings.com/en/information/current-information.html#message_0

 
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