|Quoting Lizzie (Reply 128):|
I'm just warning that making depression trigger a lifetime ban on flying is going increase the risk of pilots with undiagnosed and untreated depression flying, not reduce it.
There are certain jobs that people diagnosed with Clinical Depression, that are taking medication and receiving professional counseling should not be engaged in. Pilot is one of them. Sorry to disagree. A pilot with CD
, and meds for it cannot be flying unless total disclosure is made mandatory and the airline has a program to accommodate such a pilot.
|Quoting Lizzie (Reply 128):|
Yes, it can. More to the point, never having had depression is no guarantee that you won't get it one day. Even more to the point, a diagnosis of depression isn't even a very good predictor of suicide, and the vast majority of people with depression do NOT commit suicide.
15% of those diagnosed with Clinical Depression will commit suicide. Of those diagnosed with their first episode of CD
, their chances of having a second episode are 50% and once a second episode has ocurred, the chances of having a third episode are 70%. If this person already had what appears to be a major episode while in training, LH
really screwed up here as regular monitoring should have been required and questions asked about wether he was fit to continue in their program. Somebody decided he was, today we see the results. And while yes, this is not typical, it´s a known risk. So the question may be, how much risk is the flying public willing to take when a person with a clearly, diagnosed mental illness is sitting up front? A condition that is known to have a suicide as one of its consequences in not a small percentage of those diagnosed with it.
Now, maybe people here are confusing being a bit sad or going over a rough patch with Clinical Depression and that is a common mistake but they are not the same at all. I am talking about major, severe, clinical depression.
|Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 130):|
Some people may feel sad or stressed, others may feel suicidal or violent. I don't think everyone with depression should be tarnished with the same brush, but I do think that if a pilot or prospective pilot has a history of mental illness, this should be gone through and evaluated with a fine tooth comb in order to ascertain whether or not he or she is a risk.
Totally agree with you.
|Quoting holzmann (Reply 149):|
Germanwings properly screened the co-pilot before and during his employment, and on whether the airline should have had a policy requiring two or more people in its cockpits at all times during a flight."
Obviously somebody dropped the ball.
|Quoting Lizzie (Reply 184):|
and a blanket ban on anyone with a diagnosis of depression from flying a commercial aircraft would be a strong incentive to secrecy, as well as being ineffective.
Again, I disagree. Piloting is not a profession where you want someone diagnosed with Clinical Depression to be in the cockpit, unless special provisions are in place. Such as constant monitoring, periodic and constant evaluations, flying simple routes during non-stressful hrs. The Captain of tha AF
A340 that went off the runway at Toronto was under a similar regime by AF
due to a "mental" situation and he was limited to flying only the "short" daytime transcons. CDG
-NYC were his normal routes. The mere fact that most depressed pilots are not going to crash their airplanes, while true, it´s no guarantee they won´t. As we´ve just seen.
And I am sorry if this is not politically correct.