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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:51 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 98):
Quoting 777ER (Reply 97):Will be nice to see S340s flying our skies again with regular passenger flights.The thing I find funny about him using some S340s, as NZ claimed that they weren't economical hence why they replaced them

Well maybe not as economical as the Q300s which replaced them with more passenger capabilities
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:56 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 98):
The thing I find funny about him using some S340s, as NZ claimed that they weren't economical hence why they replaced them

Whilst I don't believe Kiwi has the slightest chance of succeeding, lets not rewrite history.

The Saabs were replaced because they were aging and restricted the ability to grow routes due to their constrained size. They made money for the group during their tenure.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:05 am

Quoting Sylus (Reply 99):
Which is questionable as REX over in Australia seems to find great use of them.

Doesn't REX get funding for some of its routes under the RPT Scheme in Aussie? which would help with cost of operating aircraft of an older age.

Also I find regional fares in Australia to be higher than in NZ, e.g quick search of SYD-LSY shows the entry level fare is $159, when AKL-NSN is $89
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:38 pm

"Air New Zealand Adds Auckland – Maroochydore NW15 Operations"

Air New Zealand is extending Auckland – Maroochydore / Sunshine Coast seasonal operation, as the Star Alliance member plans 2-3 weekly service during Northern Winter season, from 13DEC15 to 28JAN16.

http://airlineroute.net/2015/04/10/nz-aklmcy-nw15/
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:35 pm

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 103):
"Air New Zealand Adds Auckland – Maroochydore NW15 Operations"

Air New Zealand is extending Auckland – Maroochydore / Sunshine Coast seasonal operation, as the Star Alliance member plans 2-3 weekly service during Northern Winter season, from 13DEC15 to 28JAN16.

http://airlineroute.net/2015/04/10/nz-aklmcy-nw15/

I'd say by the end of 2016 we could see this service go year round, I know they had a goal within a couple of years to be year round maybe it will come sooner.

Anyone know what the Customs setup is like at MCY? have they made an separate International Area?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:04 pm

Quoting zkncj (Reply 104):

This route would be perfect for a daily VA E190/B73G service till demand can result in a bigger aircraft. Putting the route daily as quickly as possible with the right suitable aircraft would enable the route to grow quicker. Sadly both NZ doesn't have suitable aircrafts for these type of leisure markets where VA do with the E190 and B73G. Since VA is now operating under the one AOC, an E190 is perfect for this route.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:23 pm

Some of you have earlier commented on the Air New Zealand 75th Anniversary book, and I eventually bought it at Whitcoulls a couple of weeks ago. I quite like it, especially that a couple of our friends are actually modelling the uniforms in there - a nice blast from the past  

But even better, two days ago, I got this email:

"Dear Michael,

I understand that you recently purchased a copy of the “Air New Zealand: Celebrating 75 Years” book. At this time we had a competition running to be in to win a two night Air New Zealand Mystery Break for two.

CONGRATULATIONS – you have been randomly selected as our lucky winner!"

I first thought it was spam, but they also called and already sent the voucher. $38 for a book AND a mystery break - yahoo! (I never won anything in my life!)

Have a great weekend
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:18 pm

Quoting zkeoj (Reply 106):

Congratulations Micha, always great to win a random but valuable prize.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:54 pm

Thanks, Godfrey - sure is a nice feeling!  
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:42 am

ZK-OXI delivery flight is NZ6097. TLS-MCT 11 Apr, MCT-KUL 12 Apr, KUL-CNS departs in about 2 hours.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:51 am

Next week sees another 787 operator out of AKL -

"LAN Boeing 787 to fly Sydney-Auckland-Santiago from April 18"

South America's LAN Airlines will begin flying the Boeing 787 between Sydney and Santiago this week, with a stopover in Auckland also providing a quick trans-Tasman dash on the advanced Dreamliner.

LAN, which as a member of the Oneworld airline alliance is also a Qantas partner, will upgrade to the Boeing 787-8 from the current fuel-thirsty Airbus A340-300 from April 18.

The 11 hour leg between Auckland and the Chilean capital will showcase the Boeing 787's jetlag-busting traits such as lower cabin altitude and higher humidity.

http://www.ausbt.com.au/lan-to-fly-boeing-787-on-sydney-santiago-route
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:02 am

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 110):
The 11 hour leg between Auckland and the Chilean capital will showcase the Boeing 787's *So-called* jetlag-busting traits such as lower cabin altitude and higher humidity.

LOL I amended it to reflect what it actually should say..  I haven't noticed any difference on any longhaul 787 flights I took. It's a cheap 787 flight though for those of you interested in adding it to logbook...
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:27 am

Announcement of the next destination seems to be getting closer:

Quote:
Air New Zealand is on the brink of announcing another United States destination.

The airline late last year said it was investigating three new options in the US and an announcement on which it had chosen could be made as early as this week. Chicago, Houston and Las Vegas are in the running.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ticle.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11431981

Quoting 777ER (Reply 82):
Interesting look!

Better than the new livery!

Quoting 777ER (Reply 82):
AKL will still have its paint shop

Thats what I thought, but maybe the airline's higher ups want to out source all of that as well as the heavy maintenance.  
Quoting keen2fly (Reply 83):
I'm very skeptical of course with Ewan's track record, I will only believe it once they have the aircraft and they are flying with paying passengers. Thoughts?

Probably best for me not to voice my true thoughts on KRA, but I will echo Aerorobnz(?)'s sentiments in previous threads that, IMO, the country doesn't have the population large enough to sustain competition to Air New Zealand Link services. Not without substantial subsidies at least.

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 85):
By putting their own flight number on a flight operated by another carrier the airline is implicitly telling their customers 'we endorse this airline as a safe carrier'.

Exactly. Air NZ would presumably have to do a safety audit of some kind in order to do so....the thought of all that paperwork makes me shiver.

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 86):
Yes

 
Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 101):
The Saabs were replaced because they were aging and restricted the ability to grow routes due to their constrained size.

Would have been nice if Air Nelson acquired Saab 2000s instead of the Q300s. Much more interesting aircraft.

Quoting zkeoj (Reply 106):
$38 for a book AND a mystery break - yahoo! (I never won anything in my life!)

So you don't find out where you're going until check in? Enjoy the holiday!

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 110):
LAN, which as a member of the Oneworld airline alliance is also a Qantas partner, will upgrade to the Boeing 787-8 from the current fuel-thirsty Airbus A340-300 from April 18.

Flew LAN801 to Sydney a few weeks ago to get on the A340 before they left....sadly I fell asleep immediately after getting on board (I want to blame the awful departure time for this, but the quiet cabin of Airbus wide-bodies doesn't help) and didn't awake until after all the other pax had disembarked.    I've only slept through the entire flight like that once before.


Quoting PA515 (Reply 109):
ZK-OXI delivery flight is NZ6097. TLS-MCT 11 Apr, MCT-KUL 12 Apr, KUL-CNS departs in about 2 hours.

Just departed KUL. Now that this one has been delivered, the number of Airbuses in the airline's jet fleet finally matches the number of Boeings.   
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:28 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 111):
I haven't noticed any difference on any longhaul 787 flights I took.

I've said before that I noticed the increase in cabin humidity.. Significantly as well. I'm sure someone with contacts could testify if they took a flight and had contacts in for the whole flight.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:19 am

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 112):
So you don't find out where you're going until check in? Enjoy the holiday!

You will be told one day in advance. And you can nominate ONE city that you do NOT want to go to. You can actually book those mystery breaks regularly - same conditions. A good exercise in yield management. I have been in pretty much any place in New Zealand Air NZ flies to, but funny enough it is a bit of an excitement not to know where you'll go, even for a "seasonsed tarveller"  

Cheers
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:28 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 113):

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 111):
I haven't noticed any difference on any longhaul 787 flights I took.

I've said before that I noticed the increase in cabin humidity.. Significantly as well. I'm sure someone with contacts could testify if they took a flight and had contacts in for the whole flight.


It's all about the destination AND the journey.

I'm looking forward to this aspect of the cabin as I suffer from the dry cabin with eye, sinus and throat irritations long haul but the disco mood LED's I dislike.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:39 pm

Paul Henry show is reporting that the Sprinklers at AKL Domestic have been set-off and the terminal is evaced?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:45 pm

Looks like AIAL have no comfirmed on there twitter.

https://twitter.com/AKL_Airport/status/587714526771982336

"Our Domestic Terminal is currently being evacuated due to a sprinkler system activation expect some delays."

Great day for it, rain in side, rain out side?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:03 am

I'm sitting at ZQN at the moment, snow everywhere and visibility is limited. My JQ 320 managed to get in but two NZ ATR's diverted to IVC after circling for a good length of time. I thought the JQ 320's and NZ ATR's had similar RNP technology? Any thoughts??
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:44 am

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 110):
Next week sees another 787 operator out of AKL -

LAN managed to get me on the first 787 flight on the route. I'm absolutely exhilarated about making the flight from Chile to SYD on a twin a/c!  
Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 110):
The 11 hour leg between Auckland and the Chilean capital will showcase the Boeing 787's jetlag-busting traits such as lower cabin altitude and higher humidity.

The SCL-AKL sector is blocked at 13 hours and 10 minutes.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 113):
I've said before that I noticed the increase in cabin humidity.. Significantly as well.

I have definitely noticed it too; especially on the longer 787 sectors, i.e. MAD-SCL.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:17 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 119):
I have definitely noticed it too; especially on the longer 787 sectors, i.e. MAD-SCL.

For me the best part of the experience is the constant 'shush" of the wind without the rumble that goes with it from the joints in the fuselage panels.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:08 pm

I noticed when looking at Flightradar 24 while sipping my morning coffee at just after 8AM EST that there were three NZ international departures from AKL around midnight in a time span of about 17 minutes. I didn't think the departure area has this sort of space or has it improved since I was in AKL last about 5- years ago. Rob how do you make it work ?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:23 pm

Interestingly, buried away at the bottom of today's NZ Herald article about NZ doing maintenance for Tiger Airways

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ticle.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11432607

was this little gem...

Air New Zealand is to announce a new mainland United States destination tomorrow morning.

Not long to wait now  
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:42 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 121):
I noticed when looking at Flightradar 24 while sipping my morning coffee at just after 8AM EST that there were three NZ international departures from AKL around midnight in a time span of about 17 minutes. I didn't think the departure area has this sort of space or has it improved since I was in AKL last about 5- years ago

There's currently 16 gates at the International terminal , or 18 if you park 4x A320s at gate 16 &17.

The departure area pretty much changes yearly at AKL, they never like not to have an building project going on. Only the USA flights have the extra screening, all other flights can use any gate.

3 departures aren't bad, try the morning Tasman Rush or the Midnight Tasman Arrival Rush
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:09 pm

ORD may be a little longer and further north, but connections to big East cities / eastern Canada, and the UK / Ireland are more plentiful (and it is a mega hub for UA). Also, Chicago is actively looking for more international airlines (now if they would just ADD GATES TO T5 OR ADD FIS TO T1 OR T3)! I could be wrong, but I think ORD will get NZ and UA will start IAH-AKL/SYD/MEL in due time. Just my 2 cents.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:22 pm

Quoting nomorerjs (Reply 124):
UK / Ireland are more plentiful

And at least 12 European destinations on *A carriers.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:30 pm

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 122):
was this little gem...

Air New Zealand is to announce a new mainland United States destination tomorrow morning.

Well spotted.

Quoting nomorerjs (Reply 124):
Also, Chicago is actively looking for more international airlines (now if they would just ADD GATES TO T5 OR ADD FIS TO T1 OR T3)! I could be wrong, but I think ORD will get NZ and UA will start IAH-AKL/SYD/MEL in due time. Just my 2 cents.

I think NZ stands to make more out of IAH.

Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 125):
And at least 12 European destinations on *A carriers.

How does this compare to LAX and SFO, and indeed IAH? I mean, is it better? I'm not asking for a list.  
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:41 pm

Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 125):
And at least 12 European destinations on *A carriers.

The Singapore alliance taps into European traffic. IAH will prevail (I believe) because it opens up the Southeast, Latin America and alternative options to the North East. European traffic will not be key to the next mainland US destination.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:12 pm

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 127):
The Singapore alliance taps into European traffic. IAH will prevail (I believe) because it opens up the Southeast, Latin America and alternative options to the North East. European traffic will not be key to the next mainland US destination.

Fair point. I'll freely admit to my own bias - there are direct flights between YOW and ORD, meaning I don't have to endure a 6-8 hour westbound layover at SFO/LAX and connect through YYZ (grrr!). CBP pre-clearance is much more user friendly at YOW than YYZ.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:24 pm

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 127):

Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 125):
And at least 12 European destinations on *A carriers.

The Singapore alliance taps into European traffic. IAH will prevail (I believe) because it opens up the Southeast, Latin America and alternative options to the North East. European traffic will not be key to the next mainland US destination.

I agree, going via the US to Europe is unattractive for many travellers because of the requirement to actually 'enter' the country even if only transitting for a couple of hours, so I don't see European connections from either IAH or ORD being a particularly relevant factor.

Anyway, hopefully all will be revealed tomorrow  
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:32 pm

Quoting motorhussy (Reply 126):
I think NZ stands to make more out of IAH.

I agree, but two rather disconnected matters make me wonder, the possibility of ORD and that NZ are said to be looking at an additional 2 77W's. Perhaps they are not as mutually exclusive as they may appear.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:26 am

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 60):
Quoting Unclekoru (Reply 59):
I would have though four frames was only just enough to give you the required flexibility to maintain schedule integrity.

Are they not upgrading all 8?

I had taken from a post made here that only four were being upgraded.

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 127):
Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 125):
And at least 12 European destinations on *A carriers.

The Singapore alliance taps into European traffic. IAH will prevail (I believe) because it opens up the Southeast, Latin America and alternative options to the North East. European traffic will not be key to the next mainland US destination.

It would seem to be the most sensible of the three proposed destinations, as you say, a very good port for onwards connections to Latin America and the Northeast etc. I assume O&D would be very light though? ORD would surely be pushing the capabilities of the 77W to the limit, it must be about 7500 ESAD?
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:32 am

Looks like the RNZAF getting a couple of C-17s is still on the table with an explicit acknowledgement something will have to be done sooner rather than later as there are only 8 left for purchase.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ticle.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11433122

Quote:
In a report released last week, the committee said that the cost of two of the C-17s would be "a minimum of $600 million, with an operating cost of $20,000 per hour".

It said the C-17s would be a "desirable acquisition" and noted that there were only eight to 10 of the aircraft left for sale.


MPs on the committee sought advice on how money could be found to purchase the aircraft and whether it was practical to replace five Hercules with two Globemasters.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:44 am

Further to the announcement of a new route for NZ tomorrow - the announcement is scheduled for 0730.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:53 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 133):

Further to the announcement of a new route for NZ tomorrow - the announcement is scheduled for 0730.

Thanks, I appreciate the heads up ... I think we're all rather eager to exclaim either "I told you so!" or "WTF?"  

( I'm personally hoping for 'I told you so!' )

Exciting times for the airline either way
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:45 am

Quoting ZaphodHarkonnen (Reply 132):
Looks like the RNZAF getting a couple of C-17s is still on the table with an explicit acknowledgement something will have to be done sooner rather than later as there are only 8 left for purchase.

The issue with this is that they would also need 4x C130J (3 would be too few for availability) so that would have to be considered. It would provide both strategic and tactical lift which is great and would be the best combination. The A400M is Inbetween the 2 aircraft. So there would be savings in 1 fleet type and some extra flexibility per aircraft. However it would miss some of the savings from the smaller C130J and miss some of the capabilities of the huge C-17.
Another factor to consider is interoperability with 2 of our most important allies: Australia and the USA. Note that the U.S. sends C-17s to Antarctica from CHC.
Either way a decision needs to be made very soon.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:57 am

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 121):
I noticed when looking at Flightradar 24 while sipping my morning coffee at just after 8AM EST that there were three NZ international departures from AKL around midnight in a time span of about 17 minutes.

Really? In the mornings there is up to 10 departures in an hour or 25 between 0600-1000. Quite a few narrowbodies in there but several widebodies on shorthaul plus NRT, CZ, KE, LA etc. Also during parts of the afternoon, SQ, TG, CX, MH, FJ, QF, NZ, TN, SB, and evening mainly EK and NZ, CI.

Quoting zkncj (Reply 123):

3 departures aren't bad, try the morning Tasman Rush or the Midnight Tasman Arrival Rush
Quoting zkncj (Reply 123):

There's currently 16 gates at the International terminal , or 18 if you park 4x A320s at gate 16 &17.

There are only 12 gates with airbridges or 14 if no widebodies on pier B. Next year they are meant to expand again?!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:09 pm

"We have a big announcement coming later today. Can anybody guess what it is!? #fly2houston" - tweeted by @IAH an hour ago.

Looks like IAH's social media team just spilled the beans!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:45 pm

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:08 pm

Quoting nzrich (Reply 138):

Worst kept secret since Anne Frank. it has been in the public domain for at least a few days.

Good, but it will have an impact on the 2nd and 3rd a day LAX/SFO I'm sure. That's not a bad thing either though. As long as the flights dont land at peak time IAH is better to transit for sure. The herald is commendably awful with their article as usual.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:03 pm

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 139):
As long as the flights dont land at peak time IAH is better to transit for sure.

You are referring to peak time at IAH I assume. Looking at Flightstats and the IAH outbounds it appears to me need to arrive in time to catch the departure tranche from about 1600hrs or the next group from about 1900hrs. These tranches offer a good variety of destinations. The earlier tranche could put pressure on the TT connection time at AKL.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:15 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 140):

Tbh they hv emphasized visitors to NZ as the aim of this flight. I would expect it isn't the only goal here to connect up to Australlia. NZ is the growing economy right now.
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:23 pm

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 141):
I would expect it isn't the only goal here to connect up to Australlia. NZ is the growing economy right now.

I get your point. But It would allow BNE and MEL customers an alternative one stop (to SYD-DFW) into the southern USA.

[Edited 2015-04-15 14:30:31]
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:32 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 139):
Good, but it will have an impact on the 2nd and 3rd a day LAX/SFO I'm sure. That's not a bad thing either though. As long as the flights dont land at peak time IAH is better to transit for sure. The herald is commendably awful with their article as usual.

Yes I think so to. I expect LAX to probably revert to just double daily 77W (plus the RAR flight), except in the busiest peak where you might get a 3rd flight on certain days. Certainly these would probably be on the days that the IAH service doesn't operate.
SFO might lose one of it's extra services but I think NZ is trying to grow this and it does provide a good early service.
Once it is all bedded down after a year expect IAH to increase to daily 77E,
LAX 2x daily 77W, 1x weekly RAR service, 1x weekly additional service (789/77E) during busy season,
SFO daily 77W, 2x weekly 77E/77W,
YVR daily 77E
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:38 am

Great that NZ starts direct non-stop links to both EZE and IAH in December this year. The ports kinda bookend the Latin speaking Americas and make it easier to travel one end to the other flying in and out with NZ at two destinations.

Edit: I don't literally mean Latin speaking but speakers of Romance languages… Spanish, Portuguese and French… before one of our Team Pedant jumps on me.  Wink

[Edited 2015-04-15 17:40:44]
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:17 am

Any word on what the timetable will be ?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:42 am

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 101):
The Saabs were replaced because they were aging and restricted the ability to grow routes due to their constrained size. They made money for the group during their tenure.

Yet they then suffered from excess capacity a few years back and had to lower fares to fill seats. Maybe that's past now, but I still reckon the ATR42 would have been a better fit.

Quoting ZaphodHarkonnen (Reply 132):
Looks like the RNZAF getting a couple of C-17s is still on the table with an explicit acknowledgement something will have to be done sooner rather than later as there are only 8 left for purchase.

Terrible choice, in my opinion. And what an insane amount of money to outlay - looks like moving the NH90 helicopters (another stupid military purchase - remember the land vehicle debacle?) is a key driver of all this.

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 135):
Another factor to consider is interoperability with 2 of our most important allies: Australia and the USA. Note that the U.S. sends C-17s to Antarctica from CHC.
Either way a decision needs to be made very soon.

I still don't get why you'd want to operate two types - one aging and maintenance heavy, the other astronomically expensive - in such a small fleet. I still think the Embraer's are the way to go but no doubt there's political pressure too.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:58 pm

Is NZ still considering adding two more 77W'S?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:06 am

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 146):
Terrible choice, in my opinion. And what an insane amount of money to outlay - looks like moving the NH90 helicopters (another stupid military purchase - remember the land vehicle debacle?) is a key driver of all this.

I agree, the C17 is too expensive for us. How much is a new C130J anyway? That hasn't been mentioned anywhere that I know of.
How about one or two RNZAF A319's? Seems to work well for the Aussies antarctic operations. Could pick up some used examples pretty cheap, powered with IAE engines to match the Air NZ machines (maintenance wise). Plus 2 or 3 tactical type aircraft. My 2c!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread 156

Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:48 am

Tomorrow (April 17) LAN will officially end A340 operations to SYD via AKL. CC-CQF will be retired after returning to SCL from AKL. For AKL spotters interested, tonight we are flying on CC-BBA "the First 787 in the Americas" from SCL to SYD via AKL.

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