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Great news...I wish it was starting before September.
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Air New Zealand's new Auckland - Houston service will go on sale from May 2015, with Boeing 777-200ER. Frequency up to 5 times a week
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When do the flights start?
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:01 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 45):

Should we consider New Zealand part of the Australian continent? I don't.

If we go by this strict criteria, one must exclude LHR/MAN/DUB from Europe, and exclude NRT+TPE+SIN+CGK from Asia.
 
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Quoting drerx7 (Reply 53):
When do the flights start?

"Mid December" is all that is mentioned so far
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:04 pm

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 53):

When do the flights start?

Mid December 2015
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:11 pm

Yay finally it's official .... NZ doing what UA can't

Or maybe UA is keeping with their "gentlement's agreement" that all AKL-US will be handed by NZ.

This now makes a very impressive North America to Oceania line-up for Star :

AKL-LAX/SFO/YVR/HNL/IAH
SYD-LAX/SFO/YVR
MEL-LAX
(include RAR-LAX if you want)

The only gap left is something to BNE.

[Edited 2015-04-15 13:12:07]
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:21 pm

Quoting jetblue1965 (Reply 54):
If we go by this strict criteria, one must exclude LHR/MAN/DUB from Europe, and exclude NRT+TPE+SIN+CGK from Asia.

This is no good way to not sound like a snob here but technically New Zealand is part of another continent called Zealandia which is almost entirely submerged. It didn't break off from Australia like Papua and Timor did.

Japan etc are part of the Asian plate that makes up the Asian continent while UK etc is really part of the European plate but certainly from a physiographic position it is certainly European.

This sounds terrible I know.

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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:29 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 58):

This is no good way to not sound like a snob here but technically New Zealand is part of another continent called Zealandia which is almost entirely submerged. It didn't break off from Australia like Papua and Timor did.

Japan etc are part of the Asian plate that makes up the Asian continent while UK etc is really part of the European plate but certainly from a physiographic position it is certainly European.

This sounds terrible I know.

Very interesting. I guess you're right by technicality, but few of us measure continents by their underlying tectonic plates =p
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:32 pm

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 56):
Quoting drerx7 (Reply 53):
When do the flights start?
Mid December 2015

Perfect! First Christmas at home in 5 years and I don't even have to backtrack to SYD to avoid LAX.

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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:41 pm

Quoting jetblue1965 (Reply 59):
Very interesting. I guess you're right by technicality, but few of us measure continents by their underlying tectonic plates =p

I hear you.   We can call it Oceania or even better - Australisia because that would remove Hawaii and make the AKL destination much more impressive but the whole 6-continents claim isn't 100% truthful.  

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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:45 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 58):
This is no good way to not sound like a snob here but technically New Zealand is part of another continent called Zealandia which is almost entirely submerged. It didn't break off from Australia like Papua and Timor did.

Yeh, umpteen million or so years ago and previously it had been part of the southern continent of Gondwana, as Australia was.

http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/sea-floor-geology/page-1

"These continental rocks pulled away from the edge of the great southern continent of Gondwana when the Tasman Sea opened, between 60 million and 85 million years ago"

Dealing with somewhat more recent history, settled NZ was originally part of the colony of New South Wales, and in 1900 NZ and Australia were slated to become part of the same country - the Federation of Australia and New Zealand - until the NZ Prime Minister changed his mind at the last moment. The Australian constitution still allows for that to happen.

Those of us who live in the present regard NZ as part of the continent of Australasia, but you could call it Oceania if you want to be picky.

I'm more intrigued that Air NZ seems to regard Houston as Pacific Rim:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/6778...-to-fly-auckland-to-houston-direct

"Air New Zealand to fly Auckland to Houston direct

"We are absolutely committed to expanding our Pacific Rim network. Houston offers our customers direct access into the heart of the American South and a world of new tourism experiences," he said."


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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:51 pm

Quoting mariner (Reply 62):
I'm more intrigued that Air NZ seems to regard Houston as Pacific Rim:

Errr, they regard AKL as pacific rim...
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:56 pm

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 63):
Errr, they regard AKL as pacific rim...

Since Mr. Luxon became CEO the announced policy has been for Pacific Rim destinations from AKL

http://asianz.org.nz/our-work/busine...insights/air-nz-focus-asia-pacific

"Air New Zealand tightens focus on Asia Pacific region

As outbound travel from Asia grows rapidly, Air New Zealand has repositioned itself to focus on the Pacific Rim, working with strategic airline partners."


The was a huge debate as to whether Buenos Aires counts as Pacific Rim.

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[Edited 2015-04-15 13:58:19]
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:03 pm

Quoting mariner (Reply 62):
I'm more intrigued that Air NZ seems to regard Houston as Pacific Rim:

Ha! I agree it does sound like he is calling Houston a Pacific Rim destination.

Thanks for the background on NZ history/geography. Had no idea about the constitution, funny stuff.

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Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:18 pm

Quoting jobu7282 (Reply 36):
I have nothing to back this up is if United would let them use an E gate, highly unlikely.

HZ's departures will be in the 2200hr to 2300hr range. UA show a 2155hr to Lagos from Term E , nothing else
 
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Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 15):
The current NZ 789 is in a very high density layout which isn't very suitable for the North America market. Plus, all NZ 789 for the rest of the year are accounted for, and since NZ is switching SIN from 77E to 789, there is some slack in the 77E fleet.

It appears as if NZ are a year or two away from any 789's with a less dense layout . Probably the first non-Asian route for the 789 would be AKL-EZE. I have no idea what the best seat mix for this might be.
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:32 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 66):
HZ's departures will be in the 2200hr to 2300hr range. UA show a 2155hr to Lagos from Term E , nothing else

Often times I see that bird push off C14/C16
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NZ will use Terminal D like all the other foreign carriers at IAH.
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:36 pm

Quoting OA412 (Reply 5):
Service to DEN to tie in with the UA hub would make infinitely more sense.

Overflies LAX.

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 15):

Edited to add: The current NZ 789 is in a very high density layout which isn't very suitable for the North America market. Plus, all NZ 789 for the rest of the year are accounted for, and since NZ is switching SIN from 77E to 789, there is some slack in the 77E fleet.

Does anyone know if the NZ 789 has the crew rest areas omitted, like the QR and EY 788's?

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 18):

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Seems the A.Net archive needs some updating.

Quoting thekorean (Reply 25):

Has UA considered flying to OZ from IAH? Or is that too far from SYD and MEL?

Too far. + QF makes it work because of connections on both sides. UA (afaik) would only have IAH.
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:41 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 66):

One issue that NZ would have in using E would be that the 773 would make IAH shut down a taxi way. (A rumor as to why Continental never looked at the 773)

If NZ is leaving the 2200 - 2300 range then they will go out of D. At that time of night Air China and in the near future I think EVA will be the only other airlines at that time.
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:47 pm

Quoting S75752 (Reply 70):
Seems the A.Net archive needs some updating.

Those are Interjet, Volaris and VivaAerobus.

I also forgot
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:48 pm

Quoting S75752 (Reply 70):
Does anyone know if the NZ 789 has the crew rest areas omitted, like the QR and EY 788's?

The 789 has both Pilot and Cabin crew rest modules fitted.
 
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NZ announce AKL-IAH from December

Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:04 pm

Quoting jobu7282 (Reply 71):
One issue that NZ would have in using E would be that the 773 would make IAH shut down a taxi way.



Except that they will be using the 77E, not the 77W. In any case, I don't see UA allowing them to use their terminal. I would assume that they will use D ( as I believe all other international carriers, including other Star members, use).
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:05 pm

Quoting S75752 (Reply 70):
Overflies LAX.

Right, but so does LAS, which is why I find it perplexing that they'd consider service to LAS, but not DEN.
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:21 pm

Quoting OA412 (Reply 75):
Right, but so does LAS, which is why I find it perplexing that they'd consider service to LAS, but not DEN.

A local paper in New Zealand decided last year that LAS was a possibility. Beyond that I never even heard it discussed internally as a possibility. I have no idea where they got the idea from.
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:24 pm

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 76):
A local paper in New Zealand decided last year that LAS was a possibility. Beyond that I never even heard it discussed internally as a possibility. I have no idea where they got the idea from.

I suspect that somebody at the Herald found out about the couple of charter flights NZ ran there a while back for a Flight Centre conference, and jumped to the conclusion that this made it a realistic possibility as a year round commercial route.
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:33 pm

Quoting OA412 (Reply 75):
Right, but so does LAS, which is why I find it perplexing that they'd consider service to LAS, but not DEN.

I believe LAS was a red-herring to create some talkability around the potential news destination, and that ORD and IAH were always the only real contenders. DEN limits NZ's long range performance significantly with its altitude, and that in the end obviated it from the short-list. LAS has been the subject of several NZ charter flights in the past, which gave it some credibility to the media as an option.

Congratulations again to NZ, which starts direct links to both IAH and EZE in December this year. Latin America will be easily accessible from either or both of these ports which book-end the Iberian speaking Americas.
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It seems they start in December 2015
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Quoting jetblue1965 (Reply 57):
AKL-LAX/SFO/YVR/HNL/IAH
SYD-LAX/SFO/YVR
MEL-LAX
(include RAR-LAX if you want)

The only gap left is something to BNE.

Which NZ does operate to from AKL (from IAH it would not be much of a detour).
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:02 pm

Quoting jobu7282 (Reply 36):

the RJ's at times still use D1/2/3.

Quoting hohd (Reply 41):

UA was never actually going to operate this route. It was a publicity stunt to make gains on the merger.
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:22 pm

Wow, hopefully more seats will be able to be redeemed on points!

I guess NZ doesn't like that Qantas is having all the fun in Texas.

Who would have thought 10 years ago that these 2 airlines would be flying to......Texas. Good for them.Now let's see in another 10 years they will announce nonstop to LHR or YYZ!!!
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:26 pm

Quoting SonomaFlyer (Reply 20):
Ditto for LAX which is a bit shorter.

SFO is the shorter route. It may not look that way on a map but it is...
 
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:55 pm

Great news!

Congrats to both IAH and NZ  

IMHO NZ made more sense than UA operating this route but nonetheless it is good to learn that this route will finally go ahead given the old talk from UA about doing it with 787s before they shafted the idea...

I can't wait to see how the numbers for NZ turn out after a while...

Quoting YYZAMS (Reply 82):
Wow, hopefully more seats will be able to be redeemed on points!

  

I'd love the option of using my UA miles to fly something like SYD-AKL-IAH-AUS instead of the usual trip via LAX or SFO.
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Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:13 am

If true, what was already shaping up as a good year for IAH will become a great year (though maybe not so great for UA). It would have been hard to imagine in 2013 as many nonstop flights to Mexico and as many new airlines flying to Asia as there are now. Clearly, oil prices have not deterred travel to and from Houston.
 
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Quoting toxtethogrady (Reply 85):
If true, what was already shaping up as a good year for IAH will become a great year

Well, NZ, the Mayor of Houston, HAS all pretty much have said it's a done deal.

[Edited 2015-04-15 17:27:41]
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Quoting toxtethogrady (Reply 85):

If true, what was already shaping up as a good year for IAH will become a great year (though maybe not so great for UA). It would have been hard to imagine in 2013 as many nonstop flights to Mexico and as many new airlines flying to Asia as there are now. Clearly, oil prices have not deterred travel to and from Houston.


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Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:52 am

I just now saw this. I guess it's confirmed:

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/m...tinental-airport-adds-another.html

December start.
 
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Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:01 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 89):

Air New Zealand returns to Texas! I didn't know they served Dallas which ended in 1989.

True, although that was a very different service... as I recall it ran once a week Auckland-Papeete- DFW-London Gatwick return with a 747-200 ( back in the days when QF/AA and JL each had an equity stake in the recently privatised Air New Zealand).
 
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I wanted UA on the route so I can nonrev!!!!!!   
But glad to see another new airline in IAH! Maybe I will have the chance to fly on them!

When does it become available for booking? And what does the schedule look like?
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Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:44 am

Such great news. NZ > UA.

I can't wait to book my first trip and getting to avoid LAX/SFO!
 
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Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:29 am

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 91):
I wanted UA on the route so I can nonrev!!!!!!
But glad to see another new airline in IAH! Maybe I will have the chance to fly on them!

When does it become available for booking? And what does the schedule look like?

Starts in December " up to 5x" weekly to start. Bookable in May.
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Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 93):

Wahoo!!! Love the new addition with THREE new Star carriers to the IAH lineup!
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Good news for NZ, IAH, and Star Alliance! The long-awaited route is finally coming.
 
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Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:18 am

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 73):

The 789 has both Pilot and Cabin crew rest modules fitted.

Weird, for a high density (short haul oriented?) config.
But I imagine that they could have quite easily just removed some Y and added in some J.

Does anyone know if it's one of the 9 abreast or 10 abreast 77E's?

Quoting jobu7282 (Reply 71):

One issue that NZ would have in using E would be that the 773 would make IAH shut down a taxi way. (A rumor as to why Continental never looked at the 773)

Why?

Quoting OA412 (Reply 75):

Right, but so does LAS, which is why I find it perplexing that they'd consider service to LAS, but not DEN.

I don't think that there was ever a doubt that it would absolutely not be LAS. There would just be no reason at all for them to go to LAS, they need the UA cooperation.
 
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Quoting S75752 (Reply 96):

By dec it will be 3-4-3 on all 772
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Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:29 am

Quoting S75752 (Reply 96):
Weird, for a high density (short haul oriented?) config.

Not sure many would consider 10-12 hours short haul. Contractual onboard rest requirements/facilities also come into play.
 
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Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:02 am

Quoting S75752 (Reply 96):
Weird, for a high density (short haul oriented?) config.
But I imagine that they could have quite easily just removed some Y and added in some J.

Shortest 789 route on NZ is AKL-PER at around 7 hours, then PVG/NRT are around the 12 hour mark (and the odd AKL-SYD-AKL roation).

They are configured for high density long-haul for the Asian market, we're there is low demand for PE/J.

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