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Airline CEO Suggest Marriage To Prevent Crashes...

Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:57 pm

Turkish Airlines CEO suggest that pilots get married to prevent Germanwings type crashes...


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/after-ge...airline-ceo-urges-pilots-to-marry/


I doubt this would really work due to the amount of marital problems that exist in the world; of which pilots are no more immune as non-pilots...

How does a pilot react when his wife tells him she is filing for divorce... or many other factors which threaten a marriage...


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Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:48 pm

Because only unmarried pilots are jihadist or suffer from mental health issues.
 
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Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:20 pm

So then what will they do when a pilot crashes because his wife sucks?
 
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Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:32 pm

Quoting 2175301 (Thread starter):
Turkish Airlines CEO suggest that pilots get married to prevent Germanwings type crashes...

yeah but he couldnt get married. His girl dumped him.
 
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Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:32 pm

Yes, because pilot marriages are famously stable....  

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Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:38 pm

Maybe just older pilots would do. Young age (15-30) is when most mental diseases appear and sometimes they may go unrecognized for a time.

 
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Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:43 pm

There is good body of evidence that shows married folks enjoy both better mental and physical health but are happier in general as well.

Nothing wrong with company seeking a healthier work force.
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Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:15 pm

Quoting UA444 (Reply 2):

So then what will they do when a pilot crashes because his wife sucks?

Or vice versa ...

Quoting aircatalonia (Reply 5):
Young age (15-30) is when most mental diseases appear and sometimes they may go unrecognized for a time.

The chart you are using is showing when most people start to recognize that they have mental disease, not when the disease itself appears.

Having been married to a schizophrenic, I have heard first hand how this disease manifests itself in the person that is affected, it's very sad really, Silver lining is, I did lose all my preconceived fears of mental disease & those it affects.
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Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:23 pm

What if the pilot is gay???
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Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:25 pm

There are too many gay/lesbian pilots all over the world. You can't do anything about it. It happens 1 in 10 millions pilot kill him/her self within 50 years! It's not gonna happen again next 20 years nothing to do with gay issued. It can be married or single or divorced suicide pilot. What a make difference!

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Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:46 pm

Maybe what they are suggesting is that they want pilots who are married & not single? As was mentioned above, married people do tend to have happier lives overall.
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Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:47 pm

Or maybe people without mental issues are more likely to find someone to marry them?
 
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Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:57 pm

Fielding telephone calls almost daily from first-party suicidal callers and friends/family reporting suicidal people/actual suicide attempts, I would certainly not make the claim that the majority of suicidal people are unmarried. On the contrary, I would break it down as such:

Of those who threaten suicide or make noticeable, physical "cries for help" (cutting, swallowing a smaller quantity of pills, etc), about half are single, and half are married.

Of those who actually attempt suicide using a means expected to succeed (gunshot, hanging, carbon monoxide from exhaust, etc), the clear majority are married.

Having spoken to many of both types and friends/family of such, life just seems more finite for depressed & married people than depressed & single people.
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:13 am

Quoting 32andBelow (Reply 12):
Or maybe people without mental issues are more likely to find someone to marry them?

Marital problems and divorce are a leading cause of suicide. The stress of having to support a family or being wiped out in divorce leads a lot of men to kill themselves. The Egyptian pilot that crashed a 767 full of passengers into the Atlantic was married with children.
 
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:48 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
What if the pilot is gay???

Then the pilot would have a gay marriage.
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:49 am

There have been many social studies that find that married folks have better health.
Also been shown that married people have higher socialization, and reduced incidence of the 'lone wolf' type of incidents.
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:25 am

First of all, this is all just so illegal to even consider. Perhaps better application processes, training procedures, better CMS, treating pilots with respect would be a lot better than 'encouraging' marriages. Suggesting marriage sounds like something out of the 1960's 'Mad Men' show.
 
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:38 am

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Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:54 am

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 17):
First of all, this is all just so illegal to even consider.

Don't apply simplistic US based views. We are speaking about other culture where views on family and life structure can vary greatly.
Views on social Issues such as marriage are often quite central in some societies with resultant strong focus by both state and family on fostering marriage.

For instance in France local governments will often hold all types of events to encourage marriage, and provide social framework for such. Might look strange for a mayor of US city to go out and give speech or host events encouraging marriage, but in communities all over France that is one of mayors jobs.
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:06 am

That may be true:

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 16):
There have been many social studies that find that married folks have better health.
Also been shown that married people have higher socialization, and reduced incidence of the 'lone wolf' type of incidents.

But then this is also very true:

Quoting peterinlisbon (Reply 14):
Marital problems and divorce are a leading cause of suicide. The stress of having to support a family or being wiped out in divorce leads a lot of men to kill themselves. The Egyptian pilot that crashed a 767 full of passengers into the Atlantic was married with children.

And pilots do suffer from a higher statistical rate of divorce than average...

All in all, this is a ridiculous and non sequitur comment, even if, by reading the article, I think he might have been slightly facetious about it.
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:22 am

Yeah because having a married couple behind a door that only they can open is not going to end in...distractions   

   
 
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:29 am

Quoting aviatorcraig (Reply 15):
Then the pilot would have a gay marriage.

not in Turkey...   
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:01 am

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 16):
First of all, this is all just so illegal to even consider.

Illegal where?


....tou seem to be forgetting that:

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 18):
We are speaking about other culture where views on family and life structure can vary greatly.

  
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:41 am

Quoting 32andBelow (Reply 11):

Or maybe people without mental issues are more likely to find someone to marry them?

I don't know about that. I know plenty crazy people married to each other.

Quoting aviatorcraig (Reply 14):

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
What if the pilot is gay???

Then the pilot would have a gay marriage.



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Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:42 am

People who choose to get married aren't exactly sane in the first place   

[Edited 2015-04-18 02:43:13]
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:56 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
There is good body of evidence that shows married folks enjoy both better mental and physical health but are happier in general as well.
Quoting mercure1 (Reply 15):
There have been many social studies that find that married folks have better health.
Also been shown that married people have higher socialization, and reduced incidence of the 'lone wolf' type of incidents.

And as much that shows the opposite is true. Those opinions really depend on who you ask...

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 16):
First of all, this is all just so illegal to even consider. Perhaps better application processes, training procedures, better CMS, treating pilots with respect would be a lot better than 'encouraging' marriages. Suggesting marriage sounds like something out of the 1960's 'Mad Men' show.

Sounds about right...

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 18):
Don't apply simplistic US based views. We are speaking about other culture where views on family and life structure can vary greatly.

Don't apply any simplistic points of view is the best solution. Anyway, all that's irrelevant. Safety and efficiency are too objective for cultural biases to be taken into account.

Quoting francoflier (Reply 19):
All in all, this is a ridiculous and non sequitur comment, even if, by reading the article, I think he might have been slightly facetious about it.

I got that read too.

Quoting Fallap (Reply 24):
People who choose to get married aren't exactly sane in the first place   

No argument there,  
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:40 am

How about not over working pilots. Under paying them, treating them and the rest of the crew like robots who are there just to get a job done but actually treating them like humans. How about all of that mr turkish CEO, would that help?

Does a pilot who has a wife or girlfriend, who is away all the time, that is struggling to make ends meat, who is under financial strain due to the number of loans he took out to finish flight school and then to get type rating have any connection to depression or attempted suicide? Does being away from your family all the time and not being able to watch your kids grow up have anything to do with it? And at the end of the day does all these stresses lead to successful marriages and relationships? Its one thing to be married its another thing to be happily married, does Turkish Airlines think about these things when they deal with their crew?
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:07 pm

Quoting UA444 (Reply 2):
So then what will they do when a pilot crashes because his wife sucks?

They will than recommend wives swallow.   
 
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:37 pm

Quoting UA444 (Reply 2):
So then what will they do when a pilot crashes because his wife sucks?

In that case the pilot won't crash unless he dislike oral.
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:17 pm

Quoting Fallap (Reply 24):

It all depends on the age. Marriage makes a lot of sense when you're older, but until at least the 40's is not a very wise move, IMHO. When you're in the 60's, to marry with a person that you really love is great.

Marriage is a very personal matter.

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Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:34 pm

Quoting aircatalonia (Reply 5):


Maybe just older pilots would do. Young age (15-30) is when most mental diseases appear and sometimes they may go unrecognized for a time.

I think the issue is more of depression than schizophrenia (etc). Males in their 40s are the highest risk group for depression and suicide (in the UK) outside of teenagers.
 
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:38 pm

Yeah married people have happier lives. Turkeys divorce rate is 20%, Canada 48%, Austrailia 43%, Belgium 71%, France 55%, Germany 49%, Denmark 46%, Check Republic 66%, Portugal 68%,
Russia 51%, Spain 61%, Switzerland 51%, UK 47%, US 53%.

So where exactly are married people happier overall & how would this cut pilot suicide rates?

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Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:52 pm

Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 25):
And as much that shows the opposite is true. Those opinions really depend on who you ask...

Its not opinion, there is body of evidence that says married have better health.
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:07 pm

This is so subjective that a 'body of evidence' is an absurd thing to mention. I'm sure the evidence changes by culture, religion, etc. As an aside I've know a lot of Turks, many of whom had what I began to call a 'Turkish Marriage'. A very early marriage and divorce...maybe to prove the guy wasn't gay and the girl could get a man.

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Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:23 pm

Quoting bleudefrance (Reply 29):
It all depends on the age. Marriage makes a lot of sense when you're older, but until at least the 40's is not a very wise move, IMHO. When you're in the 60's, to marry with a person that you really love is great.

Marriage is a very personal matter.

I sense a very unwise future in my case then  
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:28 pm

How about just paying pilots fair wages? Airlines will do ANYTHING to keep from raising pay (at least at the US regional).

It's pretty stressful being almost 30 and having a budget of a college kid. Can't tell you how many relationships haven't worked out for me because who wants to date an almost 30 year old who can barely afford to support himself and has to live with his parents to make ends meet. Now THAT could cause someone to go crazy. Fortunately, I'm about to upgrade so these days are almost behind me, but it's been stressful. There's guys who have it worse than me too. Imagine having a family and you're only working for health insurance at that point.
 
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:13 pm

This guy wanted to kill himself, but how in the world could he have taken 150 innocent people with him?
 
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:49 pm

Quoting rbavfan (Reply 31):
Belgium 71%

 Wow!  Wow! They must have rather lax property-splitting laws then. Otherwise, why would anyone other than strict religious adherents take the risk in a place with such a high cultural probability against it working out?

Quoting rbavfan (Reply 31):
Check Republic

Isn't that one of those Payday Loan places?  


Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 36):
but how in the world could he have taken 150 innocent people with him?

You're attempting to apply logic/rationale to someone who (as the evidence seems to point out) had rather significant mental problems.
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:09 pm

Quoting Anrigu (Reply 33):
This is so subjective that a 'body of evidence' is an absurd thing to mention.



For decades, countless medical studies support that married folks are healthier physically and mentally than singles.

Rapid Google search finds;



According to Robin Simon, a professor of sociology at Wake Forest University, marriage has for a long time been associated with better mental health. "At this point, hundreds of studies document a robust relationship between marriage and improved mental health: Married people report significantly fewer symptoms of depression and are significantly less likely to abuse substances than their non-married counterparts,"

Consistent research has shown that being married is actually good for your heart. In one recent study out of New York University’s Lagone Medical Center, researchers found that married men and women had a five percent lower chance of cardiovascular disease compared to single people. Doctors aren't entirely sure why, but it's possible that since marriages typically offer a person emotional support, physical and intellectual intimacy, as well as deeper social ties to family, they might lower blood pressure and improve heart health overall."


http://www.medicaldaily.com/married-...nce-says-better-your-health-327878


Researchers Hui Liu of Michigan State University and Corinne Reczek at the University of Cincinnati looked at the national health survey data of nearly 200,000 people, taken from 1997 to 2004. They found that the rate of mortality among men in cohabitating relationships dropped by 80 percent, while the rate dropped 59 percent for women.

Additional studies are finding that married couples experience lower levels of heart disease, cancers, flu, Alzheimer’s, depression and stress, Karen Sherman, author of “Marriage Magic! Find It, Keep It, & Make It Last.”


http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2012/1...nger-healthier-lives-than-singles/


It's great being single, isn't it? You get to sleep on either side of the bed; you never have to wait for the bathroom; you've got all that "me time." Except, well, you may be one of the unlucky singles who keel over about one decade earlier than your married friends, according to a new study published in the American Journal of Epidemiology.

Although many studies point to the fact that singles just don’t fare as well in terms of health and longevity compared to the married, this new research shows “just how poorly the singles do,” explains lead author David Roelfs, assistant professor of sociology at the University of Louisville, Ky.

The researchers found the risk of death was 32 percent higher across a lifetime for single men compared to married men. Single women face a 23 percent higher mortality risk, compared to married women.


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44122528/n...nger-new-study-finds/#.VTKq9FXBzGc

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Personally I think its great to promote marriage, pilot or not. Its good for society and the economy in general.
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:41 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
What if the pilot is gay???

Considering that same sex marriage doesn't exist in Turkey, the CEO isn't thinking about of gay people - out of sight and out of mind.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 38):

Personally I think its great to promote marriage, pilot or not. Its good for society and the economy in general.

There's nothing wrong with promoting marriage - especially same sex marriage!  

But it's wrong to insinuate that single people are less happy and even worse, the crash could have been prevented if the pilot was married. This is what is getting people upset about this.
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Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:16 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
What if the pilot is gay???

Well, here in the UK, they'd just get married. Your point?

Quoting aviatorcraig (Reply 14):
Then the pilot would have a gay marriage.

Again, in the UK, it's just called 'marriage', not 'gay marriage'. All marriage is the same, in this country.

I don't quite get what sexuality has to do with one's ability to fly.
 
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Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:29 pm

Then that wife becomes an ex-wife, then the pilot might have to play alimony (a horrible thing but a different topic).. not a good recipe. I hear that story at least once a week
 
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Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:38 pm

Interesting suggestion, When I look around at friends and family all the miserable ones seem to be married. Male and female alike.
 
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Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:16 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
What if the pilot is gay???

There are no gay people in Turkey. At least not according to Erdogan.

Jokes aside, Kemel Kotil said something really stupid here and he probably rues it already.
We should not waste our spit discussing about it. I have no empirical data to back me up, but from personal experience I would say pilots would even sport a higher divorce rate than other people. It might sound a bit cliche, but from the pilots I know there is something to it. The job is just not the most relationship friendly, even if you disregard affairs on layovers.

Besides, Andreas Lubitz did have a girlfriend. What difference would a marriage certificate have made? It would have changed his tax code, but that's about it.
He even bought expensive cars for the two of them, so he did make a long term commitment. He still crashed the plane.
 
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Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:24 pm

Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 41):
Then that wife becomes an ex-wife, then the pilot might have to play alimony (a horrible thing but a different topic).. not a good recipe. I hear that story at least once a week

I'm not sure that I could count the number of pilots that I know that are divorced. The vast majority of them were from spouses cheating on the pilot while the pilot was away from home on a trip.
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Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:03 pm

Quoting UA444 (Reply 2):
So then what will they do when a pilot crashes because his wife sucks?

Did it crash because she sucked or because she sucks?
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Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:14 pm

Scanned most of the posts and all I can say is the TK CEO is a f&@#$%^ moron. It's not a plausible comment unless it was said as a joke and unbecoming of a CEO of a major airline. Single pilots are less stable vs married pilots? All marriages are stable and are conflict free thus making for a stable pilot on the flight deck?
 
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Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:49 pm

Yes studies that have been done decades ago have shown that married are healthier. That does not mean happier & also the last 10 years divorce rates have skyrocketed. Most of those studies are more than 20 years old? If married people are emotionally happier then why are divorce rates so high. Such a statement defies logic?
 
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Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:15 pm

Quoting rbavfan (Reply 47):
Yes studies that have been done decades ago have shown that married are healthier. That does not mean happier & also the last 10 years divorce rates have skyrocketed. Most of those studies are more than 20 years old? If married people are emotionally happier then why are divorce rates so high. Such a statement defies logic?

What happens when a pilot and spouse (there are women pilots though from the comments it seems that no one on here seems to think so   ) divorce? The pilot has to stop flying until the pilot marries again.  
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RE: Airline CEO Suggest Marriage To Prevent Crashes...

Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:37 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
There is good body of evidence that shows married folks enjoy both better mental and physical health but are happier in general as well.

How stable and happy are the marriages of pilots though? I think there's evidence to suggest that couples regularly separated for longer periods (in general) are less likely to last longer term.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
What if the pilot is gay???

Gay men and women are also capable of happy long-term relationships, and in many countries marriage.

Quoting aviatorcraig (Reply 14):
Then the pilot would have a gay marriage.

What makes the marriage 'gay'? It's just a marriage. Heterosexual couples don't have 'straight marriage', mixed race couples don't have any specific term either, it's just marriage.
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