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Quoting deltabravo1123 (Reply 1): but perhaps QR simply wants to expand on their own without the help of another airline |
Quoting deltabravo1123 (Reply 1): Al Baker wants to show Clark that they can do the same, especially in the US |
Quoting migair54 (Reply 3): BA needs to start doing a direct LHR-DOH flight with our BAH stop, otherwise it's not competitive at all. |
Quoting BA0197 (Thread starter): Question says it all really. When QR joined OW a few years ago- people were shouting from the roof tops that we would see these two airlines operate extensively with each other. It was meant to be a solution to BA's SE Asia problem and also provide more feed to secondary cities in India. QR then gets access to the North American destinations that BA serve. Al Baker and Walsh were supposed to make it easy to do. It was meant to be a formidable competitor to the new EK/QF tie up. Years later: BA are still flying LHR-BAH-DOH one time a day Limited codeshare arrangements (nothing outside the realms of a normal OW alliance operation) QR now own 9.99% of IAG and still no arrangements All the signs seem to point towards a JBA with an emphasis with connections via DOH for BA and LHR for QR, yet nothing has come to fruition. Why? |
Quoting migair54 (Reply 3): Actually QR can't do much for BA in Australia because they only have 1 to PER and 1 to MEL, very limited and I'm not sure when QR will be able to expand in Australia more. |
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 2): Qatar and BA at some point will cooperation, Australia is a place QR could do something for BA. BA will probably stop flying to Sydney, its last Aussie city, at some point. QR and BA should do their own version of the EK/QF alliance to give BA coverage of all Aussie city via Qatar flights from Doha. BA can find better uses for the 3 777 it needs to fly to Sydney fro LHR. |
Quoting qf789 (Reply 7): Personally I flew on BA last year SYD-SIN-LHR and the flight was full. The majority on the flight flew all the way to LHR. |
Quoting qf789 (Reply 7): BA also codeshares from HKG with CX and from SIN with QF to other Australian cities. I do know that QR loads from PER are consistently good. |
Quoting 29erUSA187 (Reply 8): Even if they initiate a partnership, I think they'll keep SYD, as a prestige thing. |
Quoting EIRules (Reply 4): I wonder is part of the issue here that QR is a dry airline? I can't imagine BA passengers being happy getting off in DOH and getting on to a 12 hour QR flight to MEL or PER without a drop of alcohol. Pretty much every other airline flying the kangaroo route give free booze including a number of other OneWorld carriers. Whether it's backpackers in Y or those who like their Moët in J, this is a competitive disadvantage and I'm sure BA know it |
Quoting BA0197 (Thread starter): When QR joined OW a few years ago- |
Quoting migair54 (Reply 3): Actually QR can't do much for BA in Australia because they only have 1 to PER and 1 to MEL, very limited and I'm not sure when QR will be able to expand in Australia more. |
Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 10): Doesn't mean much, especially when you take opportunity cost into account. The route ties up 3 aircraft, that could be going elsewhere while just as full and (in theory) making just as much, if not more, money. Every other Euro airline that flew to Australia has already come to that conclusion. LHR's market relationship to Oz is indeed special, but it's not magical. I wouldn't be surprised to see BA drop the route, especially if 1) QR expands to Australia and 2) the two can cozy up in a similar relationship to QF/EK. |
Quoting VV701 (Reply 23): On the other hand they had 'strengthened' their SYD operation. They reported the result was a 'c. £30 million profit improvement'. |
Quoting VV701 (Reply 23): This is almost certainly why BA is currently around half-way through reconfiguring the cabins of its single-aisle aircraft that will give them a 6 per cent increase in their short-haul capacity when complete. |
Quoting P206 (Reply 16): If you can't do without booze on 10-15 hour flight |
Quoting P206 (Reply 16): then god help you |
Quoting P206 (Reply 16): Are BA customers drunks only? |
Quoting jah718 (Reply 22): I hate when people make comments like this |
Quoting BA0197 (Thread starter): |
Quoting motorhussy (Reply 27): In a fairly tedious aircraft environment for 15-hours I look forward to a glass of wine with a meal and a pre-dinner drink as well. It's not 'booze', it's the adult refreshment I often choose over others. |
Quoting Richard28 (Reply 21): Would it make sense for BA to consider a LHR-DOH-SYD service, which, with a QR codeshare could mop up a lot of connecting feed in DOH for both legs. |
Quoting VV701 (Reply 23): There is evidence other than reports of load levels that BA's SYD flight is in a much more healthy position than it was at the time of the BA JBA with QF. |