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RE: O'Leary - Ryanair - Tells AF To Sell KLM

Sun May 03, 2015 1:55 pm

Quoting kl911 (Reply 10):
No sane person wants to fly to / connect in CDG.

CDG has been pretty much improved over the past years:

- CDG-1 has been refurbished, although the terminal structure remains a tough bottleneck, with no segregagtion of non-Schengen arrivals and departures, but the merger of the 3-4 non Schengen sattelites now eyed by ADP will doubtless enhance the experience

- CDG-2A and C have nicely been refurbished, and that AC common building has added a lot of room and facilities

- CDG-2B and D are now under refurbishment, to the same standards of 2A and 2C

- CDG-2E and 2F nos offer much improved facilities (S3 and S4), and a much smoother connecting experience

The only subterminal lagging behind is 2G, agreed.

Quoting kl911 (Reply 10):
Ryanair will not have a French base with current employment laws.

I don ' t think FR can claim to be an employer, as Attendants are contracted from Crewlink and Pilots are self-employed...

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 14):
Subsidies are a different matter. I have no idea how they work for anybody...and I'm not sure that SuperAccountant could ever sort it out.

The key issue are all those endless, interest-free loans from their shareholder states...

Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
KL is generally a more profitable operation, and always has been better run.

Not always, as KL was down after 9/11, and was dragging a huge debt when merging with AF...

KL also has to struggle to remain competitive, and even more as it prides itself for not setting the trend through innovation

Quoting dank (Reply 19):
Corporate tax rate in France is 33.3%; in the Netherlands 25%. Don't kid yourself that they slide profits into the Netherlands to reduce their burden. Thats a 25% reduction in tax burden.

The ETR of KL in the Netherlands is very likely to be much lower than 25%...
 
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RE: O'Leary - Ryanair - Tells AF To Sell KLM

Mon May 04, 2015 12:42 am

Quoting dank (Reply 19):
Corporate tax rate in France is 33.3%; in the Netherlands 25%. Don't kid yourself that they slide profits into the Netherlands to reduce their burden. Thats a 25% reduction in tax burden. All perfectly legal, but hard to tease out where the profits really are because you shift costs around the system in order to shift the profits.

The question remains whether those are real rates or whether accounting changes the equation.

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 22):
I don't think many foreign companies are leaping at the chance to operate in France.

Funny - seems that quite a few do. You know, a rich country with 70 million people and the single largest tourism market on earth.

Quoting superjeff (Reply 28):
This is not a political forum. PLEASE keep the politics out of it.

The entire post is political. What MOL said was political. What MOL spouts off about generally is political. If you want to keep politics out of the forum, you have to never discuss MOL's drivel.

Quoting bleudefrance (Reply 45):
Wasn't KLM partially bankrupt when it was bailed out by AF in 2003?

No.
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