Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 49): Anyway, what is a QR 340 doing in AKL? |
It was the inaugural DOH-WLG daily service. Got diverted to AKL today because the runway at WLG is too short.
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Quoting CHCalfonzo (Reply 41): It would not be "about identical" to two 77W |
Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 35): JFK-NRT-AKL on NH/NZ in 27h |
Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 46): |
Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 49): Anyway, what is a QR 340 doing in AKL? |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 54): Well at least I can't say I'm the only one doing this sort of routing! |
Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 55): Attention to detail is lacking lately at NZ, bordering on laziness at times.. |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 54): Well at least I can't say I'm the only one doing this sort of routing! |
Quoting gasman (Reply 56): Quoting NZ107 (Reply 54):Well at least I can't say I'm the only one doing this sort of routing!Can you do a combined ANA/NZ trip on one fare? Expedia won't let me, but a travel agent might? |
Quoting mariner (Reply 57): Quoting gasman (Reply 56):In the same way that Paul Henry is bordering on being rude (but hey! Call everyone "mate" and then everything's A-OK").Perhaps reflecting the same schizophrenia that NZ society presently has? |
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Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 61): Was heading back to AKL but near Great Barrier Island headed up to North Cape then to down to GIS. appears to be returning to AKL, over Manukau Heads heading 66 degrees. |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 58): That is what I'm interested in also. Would love to know if it can be booked as one itinerary. Aerorobnz/NZ107, how do you book your flights? |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 58): I only call people I know 'mate' but I've never liked Paul Henry as he certainly comes across as arrogant |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 66): |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 66): A trip report confirming some of your experiences with NZ long haul.. They need competition to challenge their product and mentality. http://milesdownunder.com/2015/03/re...ness-class-san-francisco-auckland/ It's all about the destination AND the journey. |
Quoting mariner (Reply 44): I think I have a reasonable grasp of real world airline economics, but I don't see anything wrong with the occasional wet dream. |
Quoting gasman (Reply 45): There is no "feel good factor" associated with travelling on a 777. It is an utterly boring tube with wings and only two engines. |
Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 48): One must remember to look below the cabin floor to understand why the 77W outclasses both the 748 and A380 for an Air New Zealand type operation. |
Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 48): The other two models discussed simply do not have the space to fit in the freight due to their hull shapes. |
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Quoting 777ER (Reply 68): Interesting report but the writer sounds like a person who expects top notch on everything and won't settle for reality. The notes on the "excessive" amount of fruit on the toast and the few bites out of the main meal proves this |
Quote: In fact it was 33 minutes after the plane had lifted off the runway before drinks started to be served. |
Quote: We sat and stared at the massive crease in the table cloth |
Quote: One thing we did notice throughout the night was that whenever the flight passed through the smallest turbulence, the flight service manager was particularly concerned to rush through the cabin in a very loud fashion demanding everyone put their seatbelts on. We felt like pointing out that the job title is flight service manager, not flight safety manager |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 68): You pay for the seat and having a service is a bonus. |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 68): |
Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 72): |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 64): Any particular booking web-sites that you trust/recommend? |
Quoting gasman (Reply 71): This has been a major turn-off for me the last two times I've flown this product. |
Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 72): Quoting 777ER (Reply 68):You pay for the seat and having a service is a bonus. Call me a cheap guy but if I was to pay thousands for a business fare, I'd say service is pretty high up on there and definately not a bonus. The article may or may not be harsh but maybe a few truths have been brought up there that need to be hit home? |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 73): Service is service and should never be a bonus, especially if you're spending 4-6x more than you would in Y. You expect good service. It shouldn't be an "optional" extra where it sometimes happens and sometimes doesn't. That's called inconsistency and Emirates excels at that. |
Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 74): The more complaints there are maybe they think the more chance the specs will be raised again. |
Quoting zkncj (Reply 78): Looks like QF8 is dropping into AKL, currently out over the Manukau Heads. |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 73): NZ could find a nice sparkling wine like Cloudy Bay Pelorus Vintage. But no. The lack of competition means they don't even have to try to make an effort |
Quoting Megatop747-412 (Reply 79): Anyone has any ideas why was it in AKL? |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 75): When you board an aircraft, your only paying for the seat from A-B-C-D or how many stops your doing on the same fare/itinerary |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 75): Airlines are not obligated to provide a service |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 82): Anyway, NZ is opening its refurbished SYD lounge on 23 May: http://www.ausbt.com.au/air-new-zeal...ney-airport-lounge-to-open-mid-may |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 82): Quoting 777ER (Reply 75):When you board an aircraft, your only paying for the seat from A-B-C-D or how many stops your doing on the same fare/itineraryTry telling airlines that. Maybe the price of First and Business Class will come down if you're only paying for the seat. |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 82): Quoting 777ER (Reply 75):Airlines are not obligated to provide a serviceYou would fail as a CEO of an airline with such mindset. Even Alan Joyce or even Gary Toomey would know better. Without a service, you wouldn't have an airline. Not providing a service is how you lose reputation, passengers, profits and ultimately the company. |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 85): Airlines need to sell those seats at a mark up to compensate for the loss of space taken up by one seat. |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 85): How does JQ who sell J seats but don't offer much premium products make money/sell seats? |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 85): Airlines offer extra services because they know they have to not because they must or because extra money is involved. |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 75): When you board an aircraft, your only paying for the seat from A-B-C-D or how many stops your doing on the same fare/itinerary. In this case your paying for a seat that fully reclines. Airlines are not obligated to provide a service. Yes its nice to receive top notch service but for the over ego flyers they certainly expect more and this report puts that person in the ego compartment. Normal flyers like myself don't expect a crew person to go out of their way to please others. Just need to look at some of the comments in the report |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 84): Right now. They're building a new one in the place of the landside observation deck |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 86): Quoting 777ER (Reply 85):Airlines need to sell those seats at a mark up to compensate for the loss of space taken up by one seat. Still doesn't explain why the mark up is so much more than the extra space you get. |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 86): Kind of like why Jetstar Hong Kong suits your strategy. |
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 86): So why would FAs working in the premium cabins get paid more than those in Y? |
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Quoting 777ER (Reply 88): When you board an aircraft, your only buying a seat. |
Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 90): A meal is a generic term and means nothing unless ( considerably }more expansively described. |
Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 91): Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 90):A meal is a generic term and means nothing unless ( considerably }more expansively described. Agreed, but there's this: http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/business-class-menu http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/777-300-business-premier#business http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/777-200-business-premier#business http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/787-9-business-premier#business |
Quoting 777ER (Reply 92): NZ isn't required as per the contract of carrage that was agreed to when buying the ticket to refund/compensate you for the service you didn't receive. |
Quoting WSTAKL (Reply 96): So there will be no landside viewing at all of the International gates? |