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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 09, 2015 1:13 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 98):
During IDEF2015, I had a chance to visit Ankara based defence company Havelsan and their new SkyFE in-flight entertainment system developed for TK. It works both on usual seat mounted displays as well as on your personal tablets and phones.

They wanted to integrate it into their own planes, what is the current status of this?

They have recently rather invested into state of the art panasonic IFE instead.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 09, 2015 2:09 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 98):
During IDEF2015, I had a chance to visit Ankara based defence company Havelsan and their new SkyFE in-flight entertainment system developed for TK. It works both on usual seat mounted displays as well as on your personal tablets and phones.

I like where the headphone connect. It is always difficult connect a headphone to armrest. Did they cancel remote too ?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 09, 2015 3:12 pm

Quoting Mict (Reply 99):

Any thing is better than current IFE. A local integrator like Havelsan will certainly improve it by time once they are on board.

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 100):

They have installed it on one plane (TC-JFO Edirne B738, 15 years old). I think initial idea is to upgrade older planes together with new seats. Moreover certification has not finished yet.

http://www.havelsan.com.tr/Basin/BasinDuyurulari.aspx?id=283

Quoting MeCe (Reply 101):

Days for remote with credit card and phone capability is over. People have all they need in their phones and tablets (games, personal music, etc). So you actually need a good and unique content on IFE: TV shows, new movies, art movies, pod casts/radio channels/DJ sets special for Airline (I realize that I'm once again describing ICE of EK).

But I see one challenge: Once you permit people to reach this content on their own phones/tablets, how would you avoid thieft!
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 3:27 am

Just came back home after 24 hour long journey that started with a IST-ATH leg on Turkish. The flight was A340 "Mersin" and quite full.

- 300 gates at IST are worse than turkish intercity bus terminals. No places to sit , gates are too close to each other.
- TGS sucks in terms of getting bus loads of people to the airplane. The ground handlers were trying to force the people to get on an already full bus.
- TGS agent at the gate didn't speak a word of English. This is the guy that interact with pax. I had to help the family.
- TK should stop serving food on these flights. The flight itself is so short , what's the point.
- TK kiosks work. 100% of the time. Turkish pax use them 0% of the time. I have never seen a single pax use them at all in all these legs I flew last week.
- After the mess of IST , ATH airport looked like a heaven to me.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 4:50 am

Quoting MeCe (Reply 101):
I like where the headphone connect. It is always difficult connect a headphone to armrest. Did they cancel remote too ?

No The headset connection location is terrible. Can you imaging sitting at a window seat and you want to go to the aisle while the middle and/or aisle passenger is using the IFE. You don't have any problem when the headset is connected to the armrest.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 3:13 pm

Reporting from SAW on a Sunday morning 6am,there is a line outside the terminal just to get in. Crazy busy, so happy that I was the only one with an elite card to use the separate line.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 3:18 pm

Everytime I try to enter my Mileage Plus account number in TK's website, it comes back with invalid number. This was working last October.. Another reason why TK is NOT Europe's best airline.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 4:20 pm

I don't know Baha. I worked for me about 4-weeks ago and a received credit on my flight.

But I agree the website is not the best by any means with limited functionality and arcane process to make changes (having to go to an office/airport).
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 7:23 pm

What is latest status of JNF and JNG
I checked flight radar 24 and JNF is not flying for a while.
I remember news about upgrade of these 2 birds but why still they are not deployed on LH flights
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 7:41 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 105):
Reporting from SAW on a Sunday morning 6am,there is a line outside the terminal just to get in. Crazy busy,

The same at IST where the lines to get into the airport at departure level were soooo long that we had to go down to arrivals and enter from there. I've never experienced lines that long, the whole curbside outside was full of people trying to get in. Ridiculous!!!
Wasn't it discussed some years ago that those checks at the terminal entrance will be removed? I understand the geopolitical challenge Turkey is currently involved in, but you won't have those entrance checks at other airports globally - even in much "hotter" places. Absolutely ridiculous, time consuming and pushing the psychological limits of people.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 8:18 pm

Laxintl do you know why TK decided to send it's 77W aircraft to MIA?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 8:57 pm

Quoting ist2014 (Reply 108):
What is latest status of JNF and JNG
I checked flight radar 24 and JNF is not flying for a while.

They got a nice new cabin:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=8008861

They are probably due for a check.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 9:21 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 110):

I guess 777 is much better for a 13 hrs flight rather than an A330 in terms of comfort. (passanger perspective)
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 9:50 pm

I agree, but is the market in MIA big enough to handle a daily 77W?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 9:57 pm

With EK announcing a second daily nonstop from BOS to DXB will TK upgrade their BOS flights with the 77W?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 10:07 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 113):

I guess especially during summer time, there will be a huge local demand. MIA is a favourite destination for Turkish people.
TK will pick up most of LH's Turkish pax.
For the winter times, with a good fare policy they can fill the flights IMHO. Fingers crossed!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 10:16 pm

Does the Miami-Turkey peak in the summer instead of the winter? TK can send a 330 to MIA during low season.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 10, 2015 10:43 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 116):

Does the Miami-Turkey peak in the summer instead of the winter? TK can send a 330 to MIA during low season.
Quoting miaintl (Reply 113):
I agree, but is the market in MIA big enough to handle a daily 77W?

Well you can connect to over 200 destinations in IST (not all of them makes sense and some don't connect well) so do the math. On the flipside TK can feed AV flights in MIA and anyone else they interline with.

Quoting georgiabill (Reply 114):

With EK announcing a second daily nonstop from BOS to DXB will TK upgrade their BOS flights with the 77W?

Personally - I'd prefer to see the second frequency to maximize connections in IST. The business traveler would rather see the 77W or A333.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Mon May 11, 2015 2:58 am

Quoting miaintl (Reply 110):
Laxintl do you know why TK decided to send it's 77W aircraft to MIA?

Range. Too far for A330 esp with IST somewhat shortish runways.

Quoting miaintl (Reply 116):
Does the Miami-Turkey peak in the summer instead of the winter?


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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Mon May 11, 2015 6:37 am

So I guess June and November are the peak months. What is the situation with the 340 and TK?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Mon May 11, 2015 4:01 pm

How big is the boat manufacturing industry in Turkey?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Mon May 11, 2015 6:22 pm

According to kokpit.aero , TK will start Cargo flight in June to Atlanta. Flights are 1 weekly.

http://kokpit.aero/atlanta-ya-ucacak


And TK published first three months report. Net Profit 373 milyon Turkish Lira.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 12:52 am

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 121):
According to kokpit.aero , TK will start Cargo flight in June to Atlanta. Flights are 1 weekly.

I wonder where will be there tech stop? IST-ATL is impossible on these birds. ORD stops at Shannon.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 9:10 am

Quoting bahadir (Reply 106):
Everytime I try to enter my Mileage Plus account number in TK's website, it comes back with invalid number. This was working last October..

It works for me fine, also I get an email few days after my flights that my mileage account is credited with the miles flown.

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 109):
Wasn't it discussed some years ago that those checks at the terminal entrance will be removed? I understand the geopolitical challenge Turkey is currently involved in, but you won't have those entrance checks at other airports globally - even in much "hotter" places. Absolutely ridiculous, time consuming and pushing the psychological limits of people.

And the worst part is.... No one checked my I.D. until at the gate by TK, just entering the plane, for a few seconds.

Quoting miaintl (Reply 120):
How big is the boat manufacturing industry in Turkey?

IIRC, pleasure boat building in Turkey is huge. My brother is a ship building engineer, and I know small but quality boats are being build all over the country.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 9:41 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 123):
And the worst part is.... No one checked my I.D. until at the gate by TK, just entering the plane, for a few seconds.

How many ID checks would you like to have then? 2, 3 or 10.
They check your ID when you enter the plane, sounds good to me and is in line with most European airports.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 9:42 am

So I guess TK will have some good yields on the MIA route, since Miami is also a big center for pleasure boating. That is the reason MIA-MXP is high-yielding, because of the boat manufacturing industry in northern Italy.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 12:42 pm

a few months ago there was news about possible new procedures for US flights from IST due to security issues. If I remember correctly US asked to have the Passport control to be done in IST rather than arrival destination but Turkish authorities were not happy about the idea.

Does anyone know if this still a possibility or the idea is dismissed already. Politically it might not be a nice idea, but from a passenger point of view, it would be great especially for JFK where sometimes it takes almost two hours to clear the passport line ( also it would make the connecting flights much easier).
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 1:52 pm

Quoting LLA001 (Reply 126):

US preclearance, may not be a good idea at IST, where congestion is quite a big problem.

Besides, EY isn't going so well with their experiment, with constantly delayed flights to the US
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 1:59 pm

Yes Turkey is one of the nations that US is negotiating over pre-clearance but it would be from the new airport, not current IST.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 2:30 pm

I think it would be awesome if US Preclearance was available in Turkey - I'd prefer to go through passport control here when I am fresh and awake rather than going through the long lines at JFK/ORD/LAX after a 10-14 hour flight.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 8:12 pm

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 129):
I think it would be awesome if US Preclearance was available in Turkey - I'd prefer to go through passport control here when I am fresh and awake rather than going through the long lines at JFK/ORD/LAX after a 10-14 hour flight.

It may be pragmatic, but no sovereign state should allow foreign state authorities being active on their soil. And what comes after preclearance, airport security? IMHO this is beyond the red line.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 3:10 am

ORD got first 777 service yesterday with new 49Y planes. They will have good cargo capacity with 777 and 330F
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 6:00 am

Quoting MeCe (Reply 131):
ORD got first 777 service yesterday with new 49Y planes. They will have good cargo capacity with 777 and 330F

Plane was full to the gills. Expect IAD to be upgraded to 777 as well.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 6:26 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 130):
may be pragmatic, but no sovereign state should allow foreign state authorities being active on their soil. And what comes after preclearance, airport security? IMHO this is beyond the red line.

Except it is working as we speak in Ireland and UAE and Canada. So unless those are not sovereign states, this is not a valid argument.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 7:52 am

The next A330-300 (MSN 1629, to be TC-JOI) during a test flight in TLS two days ago:


11 mai 2015 - TURKISH AIRLINES - Airbus A 330-300 F-WWKH c/n 1629 - LFBO - TLS by gimbellet, on Flickr
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 8:42 am

I just came back from a great 3 days spotting at IST. That FlyInn mall terrace is for sure a fab place to see the action.
Does anyone have a list of the dumped aircraft there ? I identified some of them but not all. Thanks.
What was the Air Cariibes A332 doing there - maintenance by TK ?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 9:32 am

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 133):

Except it is working as we speak in Ireland and UAE and Canada. So unless those are not sovereign states, this is not a valid argument.

Please read more carefully what i wrote: I neither questioned those countries' sovereignty nor that this system is not working, i expressed my opinion on such development by writing "no sovereign state should allow...".
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 10:23 am

Are all of TK's US service going 77W? Is not the 332 better for markets like BOS and MIA?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 11:03 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 128):
Yes Turkey is one of the nations that US is negotiating over pre-clearance but it would be from the new airport, not current IST.

Thanks, I thought they were thinking for the current airport. I agree with Leftyboarder, it would make the trip much bearable if I could just walk away when I land in the states.

Quoting atal17 (Reply 127):
EY isn't going so well with their experiment, with constantly delayed flights to the US

Well, there is already extra security screenings at Istanbul specifically for US flights, I don't know it they do the same at the airport EY flying off from but I don't think it will affect the time of boarding as passport check will replace the extra security screening ( I am talking about the one where they check your visa and info not the actual security x-ray check)

On the lighter side, there is a news about an old DC-3 display in Buyukcekmece waterfront where it operates as a museum. Apparently, it is being used as a jumping platform to the sea by the people so municipality is moving the aircraft to interior of the park. You can see they have used the rear landing gear opening to pass the cables and ducts for A/C units.

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/28991826.asp
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 12:00 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 137):
Are all of TK's US service going 77W? Is not the 332 better for markets like BOS and MIA?

Can you provide a source please about BOS?

In fact, JFK is losing 77W service for W15 ...
For winter season TK operates 2 daily A330-300 on this route, effective 25OCT15.

TK003 IST0725 – 1145JFK 333 D
TK001 IST1325 – 1745JFK 333 D

TK004 JFK1315 – 0545+1IST 333 D
TK012 JFK2340 – 1555+1IST 333 D
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 12:20 pm

77W are only for ultra-long haul routes. BOS and MIA don't qualify for that. That 77W that JFK is using is going to MIA.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 12:41 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 140):

77W are only for ultra-long haul routes. BOS and MIA don't qualify for that. That 77W that JFK is using is going to MIA.

I understand. But your earlier comment suggests (or at least implies) that ALL US routes are going 77W ...AND that BOS is specifically going 77W. That is why I asked 1) if you have a source for that info, or 2) if you are just asking?

If I misunderstood your earlier comment - my apologies - but please rewrite what you meant if you can.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 3:08 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 140):
77W are only for ultra-long haul routes

TK were using 77W's on short hops to ESB, ADB and ATH when I was there a couple of days ago.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 3:45 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 140):
77W are only for ultra-long haul routes. BOS and MIA don't qualify for that.

IST MIA is blocked at 13:00. What makes it different in terms of being longhaul from IST LAX at 13:50, IST SFO at 13:20, IST IAH at 13:20 or IST ORD at 12:10? IST MIA will be one of the longest flights in the TK network. Not the longest, but up there nevertheless.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 7:36 pm

333 is good for 10 hours, at most 11. IAD is outskirts of 333 range so that 333 is logical for JFK and BOS if you dont have enormus cargo or pax demand.

And IAD will get 777w as Turkish777X said.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 8:32 pm

Don't know if mentioned already. On this webpage there is a great video about the new airport for anyone that wants to see a summary. http://www.igairport.com/en/iyh.html
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 9:01 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 140):

77W are only for ultra-long haul routes. BOS and MIA don't qualify for that. That 77W that JFK is using is going to MIA.

So TK expect MIA to be stronger in J than JFK is? The TK 77W has a J cabin 75% larger than on the A333.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 13, 2015 11:41 pm

Then why is TK sending such a large airplane to MIA? Is it to fight the Gulf carriers head on?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Thu May 14, 2015 12:02 am

Quoting 321neo (Reply 146):
So TK expect MIA to be stronger in J than JFK is? The TK 77W has a J cabin 75% larger than on the A333.

.
Well - JFK has more than one frequency so there's more J seats on a given day.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Thu May 14, 2015 4:06 am

Quoting MeCe (Reply 144):
333 is good for 10 hours, at most 11. IAD is outskirts of 333 range

The A333 has been dispatched to operate the new nonstop Jakarta flight for the second time in 4 days today. That flight is blocked at 12.35 on the return so the A333 is quite capable, apparently.

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