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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Thu May 14, 2015 9:59 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 150):

Sounds great. I wish that this become real, not a piece of lie before elections. However there is no participant from TK in the meeting list and this inserts multiple question marks into this news.

When I look at destinations, I can clasify them as follows:

2015 : Business Travelers + O&D
2016 : Turkish Diaspora
2017 : Business Travelers

But these flights must have reasonable timings so that business travels can use them. Moreover we need Arbil and Batumi flights ASAP, not after 2 years.

And final question: Why no Dubai?
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 15, 2015 6:04 am

Quoting TK105 (Reply 151):

In fact Frankfurt is already served, if you pay attention to the routes other than Paris and London all others (with the exception of Arbil and Baku) were formerly routes served from ESB by TK and most of these were then transferred to AJet before they were suspended.

The timing of formation of Ajet and TK's handing over these routes to Ajet is the date TK enters to *A. TK in fact shut down ESB not to cause another * hub to compete against IST so the new move is back to where it was left off but definitely good and hope it materializes,

You inquire about DXB, I think Emirates would do better on ESB DXB than TK due to connections it offers. QR has no competiton Eastbound form ESB...

Also AZ will do great on ESB FCO and I am sure that will happen one of these days, last year it did not materialize at the last minute because of AZ restructuring but now they are better positioned to do this
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 15, 2015 8:58 am

Excellent news indeed  TK to MIA, and ESB gets more European flights. All we need Bahadir to get a job that lets him base out of Istanbul  

Reporting from DLM, my first flight in a long time with Pegasus. Let's see how it goes. So far so good. TK is delayed Pegasus on time to Istanbul. Happy to see few more dining options at DLM domestic. For years it was the joke... "Bye Bye Dalaman" cafe and crazy pricing they had. Nice to have an Illy Americano for about 3.00USD, free wifi included.

I am also happy to report that my I.D. was checked at security by an independent security agent, "not by a TK employee at the gate".

Safe travels and happy landings to all.

[Edited 2015-05-15 02:14:08]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 15, 2015 4:12 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 153):
my first flight in a long time with Pegasus. Let's see how it goes.

Well, it turns out it was my first A320WL Pegasus flight also. Only a year old bird, with maybe 40% load, one of the most powerful takeoffs, super smooth fligth/landing, $6.00 glass of white wine...
I have to say, because of the very short turnaround, the cabin lacked a complete cleaning.
Pretty much all you can expect from a LCC. Well done Pegasus.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 15, 2015 4:44 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 134):

No paint around door frames? isnt that necessay?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 15, 2015 4:59 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 153):
Excellent news indeed TK to MIA, and ESB gets more European flights. All we need Bahadir to get a job that lets him base out of Istanbul

That will happen when United hires me :P Hahahaha
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 16, 2015 2:50 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 78):

Was just there yesterday and I was also happy to hear about the switch to LH lounge, AZ lounge is really old and tired, however just to clear up I usually take TK12, but won't now since its 330 with no wifi and the gate agent said the LH lounge is only for day flights and TK 12 still uses the AZ lounge. Can anyone confirm?

Quoting TK787 (Reply 84):

Was on TK 2 yesterday business class, all ok but the light control panel was malfunctioning so the whole Right side of the Business class section was lit up, I don't sleep well anyway and this didn't really help.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 17, 2015 9:01 pm

I am betting that TK will order at least another 10-20 B77Ws. Boeing is trying to sell the last frames before switching their production to the B777X. These most mature frames will be quite efficient, and judging TK for their ordering policies in the past they will probably jump on them if they get good conditions. Considering how many frames are still to be delivered (EK approx. 50, LX introducing this model with 9 frames) this does not appear absurd to me.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 17, 2015 9:18 pm

Does anyone have a list of long haul destinations are currently awaiting launch (officially announced), and a list of those rumoured for the next 12 months or so?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Mon May 18, 2015 2:44 am

According to airlineroute. Turkish Airlines will operate 17 weekly, A333 service JFK from 25OCT15 to 26MAR16. Increases from 14 weekly.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Mon May 18, 2015 11:22 am

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 158):

Officially announced:

Bamako (26.05.2015)
Miami (25.10.2015)

There aren't rumored destinations for the next 12 months. There is a plan/wish list by TK for this destinations:


 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Mon May 18, 2015 1:43 pm

They also announced Maputo - 3x weekly eff Oct. 28.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Mon May 18, 2015 2:31 pm

My IST experience yesterday afternoon:

I was so grateful to have a fast track pass yesterday to skip the lines at passport control (it still took me 20 min from entering the fast lane to get to the officer). both passport lines were full, full, full. the lines kept on growing towards the check-in counters. people all over the place and I'm sure many missed their flights.
15 counters are operable at the first passport check. deduct 2 counters for this automated thing which leaves you with 13. Why on earth would you assign only 6 officers than even though you see the masses of passengers? this is ridicolous and not acceptable! if airlines have to pay terminal and security fee's, they should demand the service paid for their customers.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Mon May 18, 2015 6:00 pm

I went thru IST last Tuesday and was pleasantly surprised at the short queue's at both check-in ( for LGW ) and security. About 10 mins and 5 mins respectively max. This was around lunchtime.
Like any major airport I'm sure they have peaks and troughs.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Mon May 18, 2015 9:30 pm

Looks like Borajet is singing a lease deal for 3 EMB 195s. They also insist on not hiring me, the guy with more total hours in the 170/190 line than the two pilots of any Borajet airplane combined  
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 19, 2015 3:59 am

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 160):

Surprised that YVR is not on the list, as the second largest airport in Canada, YVR needs IST connection of course subject to bilateral CAA improved between Turkey and Canada
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 19, 2015 5:40 am

-Yesterday on my SAW-ADB flight; no one, I repeat no one, checked my I.D. at all. Not at the initial entry, not at security check, not at boarding. I was able to fly with my boarding pass on my phone and nothing else.
Am I missing something or this is pretty common?

-Good luck Bahadir  
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 19, 2015 5:45 am

I ckecked new presentation of TK by March 2015. In the future destination list Bogota is missing. Does TK cancelled or is it just forgotten?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 19, 2015 8:38 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 166):

-Yesterday on my SAW-ADB flight; no one, I repeat no one, checked my I.D. at all. Not at the initial entry, not at security check, not at boarding. I was able to fly with my boarding pass on my phone and nothing else.
Am I missing something or this is pretty common?

I think it is quite common on domestic flights. When I fly from BRU to another Schengen Airport, I usually don't need to show any form of ID. Same with domestic flights in Australia.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 19, 2015 10:55 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 134):
The next A330-300 (MSN 1629, to be TC-JOI) during a test flight in TLS two days ago:

Customer acceptance flight of TC-JOI was conducted this morning in TLS. Delivery is imminent;
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 20, 2015 10:03 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 169):
Customer acceptance flight of TC-JOI was conducted this morning in TLS. Delivery is imminent;

MSN 1629 is parked at the delivery center and has been applied with final registration TC-JOI.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 20, 2015 11:25 am

Was booked on TK ESB-SAW TK2963 yesterday 19 May. Checked in online the day before. Few hours later I got an email stating the the flight had a schedule change/ canceled. Rebooked for later flight, which will cause me to miss my other flight.
Anyway, is it normal for TK to cancel domestic due to light load.? It was a holiday and even the new flight was less than half full. We fit on one bus comfortably.

It was annoying to call reservation as they don't really speak English.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 20, 2015 2:37 pm

Quoting cyberual (Reply 171):

ESB-SAW flights are mostly business driven flights. If you take a morning flight, probably you will return with the same people in the evening on the same flight again as people are making daily round-trips. So I'm not surprised that TK canceled some of the flights on 19th as it was a national holiday.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 20, 2015 3:09 pm

we discussed this in the past, but what is this hype about Turkey-Kuwait???
what are the drivers of this demand which allows to open routes such as Bursa (YEI) - Kuwait (KWI) during summer and besides Trazon, Adana, Antalya and of course Ankara, Istanbul, etc.

I understand that there is demand from the Arab side, but Kuwait itself has a population of around 3mio. only. I strongly believe that there is something else.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 20, 2015 4:15 pm

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 173):
we discussed this in the past, but what is this hype about Turkey-Kuwait???
what are the drivers of this demand which allows to open routes such as Bursa (YEI) - Kuwait (KWI) during summer and besides Trazon, Adana, Antalya and of course Ankara, Istanbul, etc.

I understand that there is demand from the Arab side, but Kuwait itself has a population of around 3mio. only. I strongly believe that there is something else.

Turkey is the #1 destination market for Kuwaiti tourism outside the GCC.

In 2014 traffic grew at 52% !

Top destinations in Turkey are Istanbul, Antalya, Bodrum and Bursa.

The first KWI-Bursa flight started back in 2013 when Freebird Airlines ran twice weekly charters during the summer.

Another inbound tourism market which is even larger and seeing lots of growth is Saudi Arabia - which grew at 46% in 2014 and where TK has opened many secondary cities and TK CEO stated they could operate 10 x daily to Jeddah but the bilateral is maxed out at the moment.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 20, 2015 4:49 pm

For those who collect TK models like me, just a heads up as it looks like there's one of the TK 77W San Francisco now!   I'm definitely getting it. http://www.aircraftmodelstore.co.uk/...ing-777-300er-san-francisco-1-400/
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 20, 2015 4:56 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 166):

Same in the UK, as per the VS website, it says:
"You do not need to bring a passport or photo identification with you if you are travelling on a UK domestic flight unless you are checking in items of baggage."

Maybe it's the same in Turkey, did you have check in baggage?

After all, if you're travelling on a train between Manchester & London for example - you don't need ID. Obviously security is the only reason to check it, but they do screen bags and security is tight anyway (especially here the UK).

The only reason I am surprised is due to the recent problems in the region, maybe they would check for flights to areas near to the border such as GZT?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 20, 2015 5:08 pm

I recall reading that Turkey is a trendy destination from Arab nations particularly since the Arab spring. Turkey thanks to all its popular TV shows shown in the region, relatively closeness and easy entry regulations make a popular destination for visitors.
Also I read there is massive amount of Arab investment monies flowing into Turkey in recent years though I dont have any specifics.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 20, 2015 9:57 pm

A333 MSN 1640, to be TC-JOJ, seen in TLS without engines last week:


F-WWCM / TC-JOJ Airbus A330 1640 Turkish Airlines by DigitalAirliners.com, on Flickr


F-WWCM / TC-JOJ Airbus A330 1640 Turkish Airlines by DigitalAirliners.com, on Flickr
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 20, 2015 10:32 pm

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 177):
I recall reading that Turkey is a trendy destination from Arab nations particularly since the Arab spring. Turkey thanks to all its popular TV shows shown in the region, relatively closeness and easy entry regulations make a popular destination for visitors.
Also I read there is massive amount of Arab investment monies flowing into Turkey in recent years though I dont have any specifics.

Yes Yes and Yes.

Tourism is booming particularly from GCC nations. So is trade and also direct foreign investment into Turkey.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Thu May 21, 2015 5:35 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 179):
Yes Yes and Yes.

Tourism is booming particularly from GCC nations. So is trade and also direct foreign investment into Turkey.

I totally agree on the tourism part and know that Turkey is surely the no #1 destination, but 3 mio population of KWI only. The number of seats put into the market is simply huge. It's not only TK serving KWI btw. PC and KK are also there.

What is the total volume of pax between any point in TR and KWI, let's say last year?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Thu May 21, 2015 3:04 pm

As an example KWI-Istanbul route last year had a PDEW of 395. Though with crazy 50% growth I doubt that number is accurate today. Also keep in mind local traffic demand peaks strongly in summer, so it was likely well over 500PDEW in Jun-Sep I would guess.
Looking at TK stats their top domestic beyond markets from KWI are ADA, AYT, ESB and HTY while international connex were to CMN, SJJ, BCN, OTP, VIE

In related news Gulf Air increasing BAH-IST frequencies for the summer as well.
http://www.arabianaerospace.aero/gul...vice-increases-in-summer-2015.html

Gulf Air’s A/chief commercial officer, Ahmed Janahi commented on the frequency increase: “As the holidays approach, we are gearing up for a busy summer season and increasing the number of convenient options available for our passengers. Giving Gulf Air passengers increased flexibility and choice in booking their summer travel to and from Istanbul is critical in light of the consistently strong two-way traffic between this historic city and Bahrain.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 22, 2015 10:48 am

According to airkule News, TK negotiate with Cuba for flights IST-HAV-MEX.
TK would like to fly HAV-MEX but Cuba didn't like this plans.
There is also written that there are 10'000 Turkish people visiting every year Cuba.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 22, 2015 1:03 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 176):
Maybe it's the same in Turkey, did you have check in baggage?

No checked bags.
But never consistent. Today another ADB-SAW flight on Pegasus and I.D.s were checked twice and all my colleagues and I had to take our sunglasses of for ID check at the entrance to the plane!!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 22, 2015 2:40 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 182):
Cuba didn't like this plans.

But I'm sure Miami would like the plans of IST-MIA-MEX like this article ( http://www.hispaviacion.es/emirates-...ciaran-pronto-vuelos-a-mexico-d-f/ ) stated.

     
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 22, 2015 3:16 pm

Turkish CAA has issued an incentive scheme for any Turkish registered airline to introduce direct flights from ESB to any international destination that is not currently served direct from ESB.
The application deadline is June 5th and the airline awarded to operate the selected route by minimum 3 flights pw during summer season and 2 flights pw during winter season at the minimum so it has to be a year-round service. Only one Turkey registered airline will be allowed to fly on the route to be assigned for a term of three years subject to complying with the fair market prices for tickets. If CAA finds out hat the assigned airline overcharges on ticket fares, the assigment will be cancelled immediately.

Good incentive but TK may be behind this to squeeze Pegasus is my initial reaction.

Regardless positive step towards supporting ESB expansion.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 22, 2015 3:53 pm

There you go. If you want air service to city X, then they should pay for it via incentives or subsidy.

When there is no economic case otherwise, then things like incentives can be helpful in creating one.

Though I wonder why is incentive only allowed for Turkish carriers? If this was the EU it would be illegal to only offer such schemes for home based companies. Who knows maybe EasyJet, Ryanair, Wizz would fly to ESB if they were eligible.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 22, 2015 5:43 pm

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 186):
Though I wonder why is incentive only allowed for Turkish carriers? If this was the EU it would be illegal to only offer such schemes for home based companies. Who knows maybe EasyJet, Ryanair, Wizz would fly to ESB if they were eligible.

As Turkey declines to sign open skies with the EU, this is not going to happen. FR or U2 will not fly from LTN or DUB to IST or ESB, only with open skies we would have them flying from ATH or FCO or HHN...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 22, 2015 6:24 pm

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 186):

Turkey is not in EU yet and this is no direct financial subsidy from the Government to the airline but rather creating an economic model for those who can benefit. This is more incentive than subsidy in that sense and I think very reasonable and appropriate.
This was adopted for some mariginal Turkish domestic routes successfully so this is the first time it will be utilized for international routes. Let's see what will happen. I expect the main competition will be between TK and Pegasus here, doubt Onur Air or AtlasGlobal will want to operate flights from ESB given that they have no traffic rights on ESB IST.

TK and Pegasus has options to feed direct international services from ESB with extensive domestic and limited international feed (i.e. Arbil, Ercan, Baku, Baghdad etc.)

Anyhow we will see on 5th of June as the applicants will be listed at SHGM's website.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 22, 2015 7:07 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 188):

This is a nice way of encouraging airlines and everything is in line with market rules. I'm very curious about TK's reaction and how they will swallow "ESB is worthless for direct international flights" words.

I personally expect multiple appllicants for cities like Amsterdam, London, Arbil, Baku, Munich, Paris. Perhaps even Brussels and Kuwait.

On the other hand, 5th of June is rather odd as it is 2 days before the election and airlines may prefer to see result of election before they decide for an application.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 22, 2015 10:04 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 189):

I think among the cities you mention the following will not qualify;

Arbil; already served by Pegasus from ESB
Baku; already served by AZAL and codeshared by TK

The rest I would think would qualify but London may be an exception as TK may want to do ESB LHR and Pegasus may do ESB LGW or STN. The much needed route is in fact ESB LHR and by a Premium carrier so LHR T2 transfer possibilites support the flight to/from mainland UK &Ireland and North America

AMS ESB should make a lot of sense for Pegasus beacuse of their association with KL on AMS Turkey routes

ESB BRU is competitive due to high yields between the city pairs

MUC ESB is crucial and I think TK will get that

As of today Pegasus has wider international network then TK from ESB so we will see how the smoke will settle...

Very encouraging for ESB, much needed approach by Turkish CAA, this will trigger competiton and new services by regional and European airlines as the number of connections ESB offer will increase and the airport is well equipped and positioned to handle transfer traffic..
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 22, 2015 10:43 pm

TC-JOI has been delivered.

Quote:
Airbus A330 -303 1629 TC-JOI Turkish Airlines delivery 22may15 TLS-IST ex F-WWKH
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 23, 2015 6:10 am

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 190):
MUC ESB is crucial and I think TK will get that

since LH is also on this route, does the incentive still count?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 23, 2015 7:12 am

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 192):

The memorandum is on Turkish CAA website www.shgm.gov.tr

It is in Turkish but I am sure the English will be loaded in a day or two

My understanding is that this involves routes served by Turkish registered airlines flying from ESB direct currently. So there are some international routes served from ESB by foreign airlines only like Munich (LH), Kabul (Ariana), Baghdad (Iraqi), Tebriz (Aseman), Teheran (Iran Air & Mahan Air), Baku (AZAL), Hamburg & Berlin (Germanwings), Doha (QR) so I believe these routes should qualify for the tender

Also SK is resuming Copenhagen and Stockholm next month on a year-round basis so these two points qualify too I guess

The destinations that will not qualify is Vienna, Frankfurt, Ercan, Moscow, Dusseldorf, Cologne and Stuttgart if my understanding is correct.

If the exclusion applies to any/all destinations served direct from ESB currently regardless of nationality of airline, all destinations mentioned above will be excluded from the incentives

We will see as June 5th will be deadline for applications, two weeks left....
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 23, 2015 11:31 am

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 193):
Hamburg & Berlin (Germanwings)

I'm not sure if I'm still missing something here, but opening a link from HAM and especially from BER to ESB and even getting money for it should be a no-brainer in my eyes for atleast PC and/or XQ (they also have some ESB routes from Germany).
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 23, 2015 9:03 pm

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 194):

There is currently no Turkish airline that does year-round ESB HAM. Germanwings operate the route on a year-round basis, likewise with BER, seasonal services excluded from the deal, has to be a permanent route operation. So you are right both HAM and BER can qualify if CAA interpretation is limited with Turkish registered operators serving the route.
You should note that nobody will get money from the Government, you just get a three year exclusive right to operate the route and it will be closed for other operators form Turkey, of course within the scope of the bilaterals host country reigsterd airlined will continue to serve the route if they so wish...

I think this is a very nicely thought incentive but I said above this may be an effort by TK to wipe out Pegasus ex-ESB I think....Today Pegasus is the leading international operator from ESB as far as direct flights are concerned. Of course we will see once the award process will be completed in a few weeks.....
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 26, 2015 8:41 am

Wikipedia reports that Aegean Airlines will fly between Ankara and Thessaloniki from July 17th for charter flights. Anyone has information how long these flights will run for?

A couple of months ago I mentioned here that ESB could be a great destination for Aegean the route to be ESB ATH with a smaller ATR aircraft, a morning departure from ESB will be great to catch continental European conncetions from ATH and will be a better transit than IST for sure...

May be this will happen some time soon too, ADB got his lately so I hope ESB is next...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Tue May 26, 2015 7:01 pm

New Manchester flight just started yesterday night, departing MAN at 11:45pm.

Flight number: TK1491/1492

[Edited 2015-05-26 12:04:21]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 27, 2015 10:10 am

Just read that the Turkish government launched the upgrading and licenced production of the Dornier 328 in Turkey...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 27, 2015 10:39 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 198):
licenced production of the Dornier 328 in Turkey.

some renderings of the Do-328

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