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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Wed May 27, 2015 8:55 pm

Flew Pegasus yesterday on lgw - saw route. Turkish wanted $583 one way, Pegasus did it for $235. Ordered meatball meal for $8 ( around the price of a McDonald's meal) and got myself a XL Seat. It was worth it. Unlike Onur Air , they have a fully functioning website. I like the usability and functionality of their website and the iPad app better than Turkish.

We were delayed an hour leaving from Gatwick becuase the local handler asked them to wait for people clearing the security. It was an hour long screaming, yelling, recounting after recounting before captain got out and started to scream to swissport people to shut the door.

My experience on onur air was similar earlier this month.. I guess Turkish is at a different level of professionalism.

On a positive note, they had 149+9 in the plane that serves a route just recently started. Lots of connecting pax too.
I enjoyed the shorter passport line in saw , vs. Ist. I was in Taksim square an hour after I got on the bus. Saw is not bad of an alternative.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 29, 2015 5:45 am

Looks like another 332 coming to TK from SouthAmerica via YYZ.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/THY6900
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 29, 2015 7:05 am

I recently read that Erdogan opened a new airport in SE Turkey. Where is tthis? During the opening ceremony he spewed some tripe that the Kurds amd Arabs would retake Jerusalem while holding up a Koran.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 29, 2015 7:08 am

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 202):

The airport serves town of Hakkari in SE edge of Turkey towards Iran Iraq and Turkish triplex border junction area, you can check at Google Earth if you wish
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 29, 2015 7:24 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 201):
Looks like another 332 coming to TK from SouthAmerica via YYZ.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/THY6900

It is TC-JIY, ex PT-MVT. Just 5 years old...

That have taken up a huge chunk of the fleet of TAM Airlines. They must be happy with the birds, quite interesting...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 29, 2015 3:24 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 203):

Very cool. Must be nice for 250,000 to get a brand new airport (YKO). I guess they needed the 3200m runway because it 6400' in elevation. Hope they get more service than just to IST.
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 29, 2015 4:14 pm

What is the cost structure of TK? Does it have a low-cost structure like EI?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 29, 2015 4:30 pm

TK has one of the lowest cost in the world for major airlines.



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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Fri May 29, 2015 4:51 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 205):

Thrice weekly direct flights will commence from ESB on June 1st by AnadoluJet (TK's LCC), going to 5 per week after two moths
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 30, 2015 7:31 am

TK add Khujand/Tajikistan, Port Louis/Mauritius and Antanarivo/Madagascar to their plan list.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 30, 2015 12:24 pm

TK cargo banner advert showing a toyish model of 744F in TK livery, does it mean anything?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 30, 2015 2:04 pm

TC-LNA, A330 from Kingfisher is almost ready to be put into service:

http://www.trfleetnews.com/he-is-also-ready-tc-lna/
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 30, 2015 2:32 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 207):
TK has one of the lowest cost in the world for major airlines.

The comparison with EK is especially interesting given that

1) EK flies mostly widebodies versus TK who has a primarily narrowbody fleet which would lower EK's CASK pretty substantially. Moreover, even amongst the widebodies, EK have the A380 which is a CASK king.
2) Stage Length - are these figures stage length adjusted? If not, TK's average stage length is so much shorter than EK's which would artificially boost their CASK relative to a true baseline.
3) EK's fuel CASK is hilarious. Despite having the most fuel efficient fleet composition of any in that group, the fact that their fuel CASK is not that much lower than AA, UA, or even DL should put shame to the lie that EK gets cheap fuel.

Either way, truly illustrative of TK's excellent cost discipline.

PS: always love the quality of discussion on these Turkish Aviation threads. The only [Country/City/Region] thread that is always a must read, along with Indian Aviation for me personally.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 30, 2015 4:41 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 209):

Is TNR & MRU expected to start this year - I heard a rumour they were due to start Oct 2015? I'd suspect they'll use A330 or A343 on the route. This article seems to back it up possibly:

http://news.videonews.us/turkish-air...-new-flights-istanbul-2921038.html
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 30, 2015 4:44 pm

Imteresting none of the ME3 have thought of Antananarivo.

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 213):
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 30, 2015 4:51 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 214):

Very little competition on the route, so it could perform well - but the majority of traffic will probably go onwards to MRU.

If EK can operate 2x A380 a day, surely TK can send a 77W there.

Plus, if connections are good, I think it'll be a more direct route for Europeans & Americans (if many visit MRU).

[Edited 2015-05-30 09:54:03]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sat May 30, 2015 9:52 pm

Has any of you read this interview with Temel Kotil?

http://www.airporthaber.com/thy-habe...-olmaz-bir-duzine-almak-lazim.html

He, sure, talks about interesting stuff. The ones I found interesting:
- a hint of a possible Atlanta service. Although there isn't a final decision, Atlanta seems to be the next in the US,
- shift of a flight to SAW to make room for IST-MIA? Really, didn't get what he, or the author, meant with it,
- HAV alone is not profitable enough. I guess they encountered freedom flight issues with HAV-MEX. Colombia is on the tables while Caracas is not(?) due to obvious reasons.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 31, 2015 2:23 am

The first Afriqiyah A330-300 lease has been repainted in TK livery and entered revenue service some two weeks ago. Registration is TC-JOM.


TC-JOM Airbus A330-302 [1499] (Turkish Airlines) Home~G 26/05/2015 by Ray Barber, on Flickr

Any update on the second Afriqiyah A333 lease (TC-JON) ?

[Edited 2015-05-30 19:44:14]
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 31, 2015 8:54 am

Quoting boun (Reply 216):

Yes, very interesting interview.
They plan to fly IST-Caracas-Bogota but because of economic problems in Venezuela they can't.
The point with Miami; i think they mean the slot problem. They moved one (domestic) flight to SAW to open place for the Miami flight.
They fight for IST-HAV-MEX. Hope they can fly soon.
Atlanta is on the plan list for a long time, longer than San Francisco or Miami. There are rumors they begin in 2016.

There is another point which is very interesting. Kotil said they could fly 10 flights daily to China but China don't allow. And also India, there are big potential. What is the agreement between these two countries and Turkey, how many flights are allowed?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 31, 2015 1:33 pm

India has issues with Turkey over their stance on Kashmir and support for Pakistan, additional froutes and frequencies tie dto that, though TK can expand cargo flights and now serve Hyderabad.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation May 2015

Sun May 31, 2015 6:32 pm

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