Turkish Airlines To Start MIA

leftyboarder · Wed May 06, 2015 8:21 am

According to a stock exchange filing by TK, the airline plans to start flights to MIA. No date yet given.

Source: http://investor.turkishairlines.com/...l/06-05-2015-ozel-durum-aciklamasi

rta · Wed May 06, 2015 8:29 am

Good news for MIA. slowly getting closer ...

behramjee · Wed May 06, 2015 8:52 am

Talk is for NOV 2015 launch with 4 weekly nonstop flights initially

ALAfly · Wed May 06, 2015 9:17 am

Quoting behramjee (Reply 2):
Talk is for NOV 2015 launch with 4 weekly nonstop flights initially

Great news. And will be with B77W?

Miami · Wed May 06, 2015 9:43 am

Told ya.

But no one wanted to believe me.

RWA380 · Wed May 06, 2015 9:49 am

I've never heard of a carrier "expressing formal intent" to start a route. Usually a filing with the appropriate government agencies brings a carriers attempts to light. I know carriers make route announcements, is this just a different way of saying the same thing,? What are the required steps a foreign carrier should take when they want to start another US route, when they are an already known carrier to US airports? I'm genuinely interested, I'm sure I don't know it all, HA!

Either way, congrats to TK & MIA which seems to be garnering a never ending list of customers for their fine facility.

ALAfly · Wed May 06, 2015 9:53 am

Maybe see again a cool Color scheme on a Aircraft for its first flight from IST to MIA

(e.g. like for SFO)

leftyboarder · Wed May 06, 2015 10:05 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 5):
I've never heard of a carrier "expressing formal intent" to start a route. Usually a filing with the appropriate government agencies brings a carriers attempts to light. I know carriers make route announcements, is this just a different way of saying the same thing,? What are the required steps a foreign carrier should take when they want to start another US route, when they are an already known carrier to US airports?

This has nothing to do with US approvals. Turkish companies that are public (i.e. with shares floating in the stock market) have to disclose important events, and in the case of airlines this also includes route announcements. TK usually has 3 steps in route starts:

1) Declare intent to serve a city in its publications or interviews by upper management
2) Announce the formal intent to stock exchange via a filing
3) Announce the route itself with starting date, A/C and schedule

MIA had already been mentioned earlier in interviews etc, but this is the first time 2nd step was completed. Now we can wait for the actual route announcement, hopefully soon.

atal17 · Wed May 06, 2015 11:07 am

Time to Dance, Miami. MIA coming online eff 25OCT, daily onboard Boeing B777-300ER

TK077 IST1330 – 1930MIA 77W D
TK078 MIA2130 – 1630+1IST 77W D

Reservations opened right now, source Airlineroute.net

rta · Wed May 06, 2015 11:09 am

That was much quicker than expected.

777way · Wed May 06, 2015 12:07 pm

I'm surprised TK have jumped onto this and that to daily, after all the denials and inside information that its not going to happen for some years, seems like a me too kind of thing this development.

TK787 · Wed May 06, 2015 12:35 pm

-English version of the stock exchange filing:
"The Incorporation has decided to start operating scheduled flights, based on fleet availability, to Makhachkala of Russia and Miami of USA."

-77W with Comfort daily:
http://airlineroute.net/2015/05/06/tk-w15update1/

-And also the news of daily JNB flight to be extended to Maputo.

Congrats to Turkish Airlines and Miami !!!!!

I guess we will wait and see if this is indeed Daily and with a 77W with Comfort. We know that Comfort class is on its way out. TK has 12 77Ws with 28J 63 Comfort class 246Y seats and the recent 8 77Ws with 49J 300Y seating. Also this coincides with TK receiving 2 more non Comfort 77Ws arriving in September.

Still, nice to hear this long awaited news. I can see many Turks again making the pilgrimage to cheaper real estate and cruise ships.

emrecan · Wed May 06, 2015 12:45 pm

I've just checked their website and MIA tickets are on sale ..

Great news

GRJGeorge · Wed May 06, 2015 1:18 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 11):
And also the news of daily JNB flight to be extended to Maputo.

Only 3 of the 7 weekly flights will extend to Maputo. This is from 28 Oct. So the possibility still open to extend the other 4 weekly to DUR?

This would now make that suddenly CPT have more TK capacity than JNB, this is also the date when the current IST-JNB-CPT is being split into 2 seperate daily flights...unless CPT also gets tags...or stops along the way somewhere else (WDH, LAD)?

gdg9 · Wed May 06, 2015 1:21 pm

I've heard rumors of TK starting DFW within the next year or so. Any chance?

leftyboarder · Wed May 06, 2015 1:36 pm

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 14):

I've heard rumors of TK starting DFW within the next year or so. Any chance?

I hope not. There is too much competition and it would also cannibalize IAH. They should try DTW or maybe ATL first. And SEA?

727LOVER · Wed May 06, 2015 1:47 pm

Daily right off the bat, eh...interesting

Now, will we getting "What's the yield on IST-MIA...is higher than MUC-MIA?"

Quoting atal17 (Reply 8):
TK077 IST1330 – 1930MIA 77W D
TK078 MIA2130 – 1630+1IST 77W D

7:30pm-9:30pm?????......oh great....for me, who cares then

Quoting Miami (Reply 4):
Told ya.
But no one wanted to believe me.

Don't be a P****...Be a stand-up a.netter!

Miami · Wed May 06, 2015 1:56 pm

7:30 arrival..meh. I'll take it.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 16):

Calm down, man. I'm just having fun with it.

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 14):

I believe ATL is next.

ASA · Wed May 06, 2015 2:02 pm

Hey good news!!! For a few weeks, it was all about the ME3 ... I'm glad TK is on a roll too!

Quoting Miami (Reply 4):
Told ya.

But no one wanted to believe me.

All we were hearing was ... "WOLF" ... "WOLF"

But congrats to you on this great news - Enjoy your day!

yellowtail · Wed May 06, 2015 2:06 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 4):
Told ya.

But no one wanted to believe me.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

Just kidding. Congrats.

727LOVER · Wed May 06, 2015 2:17 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 17):
7:30 arrival..meh. I'll take it.

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Quoting Miami (Reply 17):
Calm down, man. I'm just having fun with it.

By all means, enjoy it.

Miami · Wed May 06, 2015 2:38 pm

Quoting ASA (Reply 18):

But congrats to you on this great news - Enjoy your day!

Haha. Thanks. But we should be congratulating everyone

Have a great day.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 20):

Indeed we need our sunlight. Hope one day the schedule changes for a little earlier but I can't complain. I'll take TK service arriving late
over no service.

I'm enjoying it. But you should too!

TK787 · Wed May 06, 2015 2:44 pm

How does other European arrival times compared to the TK's 7:30pm?
I wonder if any airline takes into consideration the most cruise ship departures in the pm? People arriving from Europe and directly going to their ships. Or is the cruise market from overseas is too small to play a part?
Thanks.

flymia · Wed May 06, 2015 2:50 pm

Great to see TK back in MIA, even better to see it go daily right away!

Quoting TK787 (Reply 22):
People arriving from Europe and directly going to their ships. Or is the cruise market from overseas is too small to play a part?

The international cruise market is small compared to Americans who make up something like 85% of all cruise passengers world wide. That being said it is certainly out there. The thing is anyone flying in from Europe to make a cruise should certainly be flying in the day before. Most ships depart around 4-6pm, while there European arrivals at 1-3pm a slight delay, wait in customs and that ship goes out without you.

MAH4546 · Wed May 06, 2015 5:18 pm

Not surprising at all, even though so many others who are very well informed and knowledgeable about Turkish insisted this was not going to happen anytime soon because of the "bad taste" Turkish had from flying to Miami 15 years ago.

[Edited 2015-05-06 10:26:31]

Miami · Wed May 06, 2015 5:24 pm

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 24):

Well said. It's only the truth.

Didn't someone say it wasn't happening because it was not under the list of planned destinations?

leftyboarder · Wed May 06, 2015 6:06 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 25):

Read my post. It was included in the list of planned destinations earlier today.

MAH4546 · Wed May 06, 2015 6:24 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 25):
Didn't someone say it wasn't happening because it was not under the list of planned destinations?

Well that is true, as a public company in Turkey it absolutely needs to announce an intention to service a new route before the announcement. But here Turkish published Miami on the list of planned destinations hours before the announcement.

A388 · Wed May 06, 2015 6:34 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 4):
Told ya.

But no one wanted to believe me.

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 24):
Not surprising at all, even though so many others who are very well informed and knowledgeable about Turkish insisted this was not going to happen anytime soon because of the "bad taste" Turkish had from flying to Miami 15 years ago.

Yes, I certainly believe you guys as TK has flown to MIA before. I have pictures of their A340 taking off from MIA but the quality is bad unfortunately.

A388

OA260 · Wed May 06, 2015 7:34 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 4):

Ok you can party now and open the Champs

A long time coming but a nice route

MeCe · Wed May 06, 2015 8:15 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 4):
Told ya.

But no one wanted to believe me.

You believe me now ?

Miami · Wed May 06, 2015 8:19 pm

Quoting MeCe (Reply 30):
You believe me now ?

Never doubted you!

miaintl · Wed May 06, 2015 9:26 pm

Is a 330 a better start than a 77W?

RWA380 · Wed May 06, 2015 11:59 pm

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 7):
This has nothing to do with US approvals. Turkish companies that are public (i.e. with shares floating in the stock market) have to disclose important events, and in the case of airlines this also includes route announcements. TK usually has 3 steps in route starts:

1) Declare intent to serve a city in its publications or interviews by upper management
2) Announce the formal intent to stock exchange via a filing
3) Announce the route itself with starting date, A/C and schedule

MIA had already been mentioned earlier in interviews etc, but this is the first time 2nd step was completed. Now we can wait for the actual route announcement, hopefully soon.

Thank you for taking the time to explain that so concisely, I have learned something about procedures in Turkey & I love to know things like this. Cheers!

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 15):
They should try DTW or maybe ATL first. And SEA?

Bam DL, Bam DL, Bam DL Ouch you're being brutal to the widget ....

Quoting OA260 (Reply 29):
Ok you can party now and open the Champs

Brilliant ....

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 19):
Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

Just kidding. Congrats.

HA! Funny, One should note that no one stands up as quickly when they are wrong about something? Good add for both MIA & TK.

Quoting flymia (Reply 23):
The international cruise market is small compared to Americans who make up something like 85% of all cruise passengers world wide.

I'm skeptical of that percentage you are bantering about, when they were interviewing people off the Costa Concordia there were a handful of American accents that I heard, mostly European languages.

Quoting Miami (Reply 25):
Didn't someone say it wasn't happening because it was not under the list of planned destinations?

And yet here we are ... Cool, huh?

MAH4546 · Thu May 07, 2015 12:29 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 33):
I'm skeptical of that percentage you are bantering about, when they were interviewing people off the Costa Concordia there were a handful of American accents that I heard, mostly European languages.

Costa is a cruise line that specifically targets European travelers.

flymia · Thu May 07, 2015 3:30 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 33):
I'm skeptical of that percentage you are bantering about, when they were interviewing people off the Costa Concordia there were a handful of American accents that I heard, mostly European languages.

After looking back at it I did miss state the stats. 85% of the world's cruise traffic come from American cruise lines. However, only 51% of the world's cruise traffic come from the United States. Still over 50% from one country alone. I am confident the numbers on ships leaving Miami and Ft. Lauderdale are very close to the percentage I gave earlier.

http://www.cruising.org/vacation/new...th-passenger-numbers-and-product-o

But still, anyone coming in from Europe, the Middle East or Asia for a cruise out of one of Miami's two ports better come in the day before or they risk a shorter and more expensive cruise.

RWA380 · Thu May 07, 2015 4:38 am

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 34):
Costa is a cruise line that specifically targets European travelers

Yes the Mediterranean is full with them, my point being is that 85% of cruise traffic isn't a US citizen onboard.

Quoting flymia (Reply 35):
However, only 51% of the world's cruise traffic come from the United States.

Cruising is definitely a US thing, I don't argue that, but most cruise lines are having to build bigger ships, come up with more exotic foreign itineraries & always try to outdo the competitors in their class of cruising.

Given the shear opulence of these vessels they are also attracting a growing number of European, Chinese & Australian passengers. I bet a decade from now that figure will come down even further.

adamh8297 · Thu May 07, 2015 11:05 am

Appears TK took a 77W off of IST-JFK and replaced with A333 for the winter to serve the route.

http://airlineroute.net/2015/05/07/tk-jfk-w15/

miaintl · Thu May 07, 2015 1:19 pm

Will TK put a 333/332 on the MIA route during summer season?

behramjee · Thu May 07, 2015 1:56 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 32):
Is a 330 a better start than a 77W?

It cannot because IST-MIA is a 13 hour nonstop flight hence not possible to be operated with a full payload A332/A333. TK's longest A330 operated service is 12 hours 45 minutes i.e. NRT-IST nonstop as far as I know.

I would have preferred 4 weekly B77Ws to start off with rather than daily as its too risky from the on set without having a partner like AA @ MIA to provide feeder support !

miaintl · Thu May 07, 2015 3:37 pm

I agree. Though do you think the flight will be successful in the long run? How about in low season when filling the front of the plane is more important? I am aware OS will fly to MIA without AA feeder.

miaintl · Thu May 07, 2015 3:39 pm

TK flew nonstop to MIA on a 343 once, so it's not true that the 77W is the only plane that can do this route.

Miami · Thu May 07, 2015 4:08 pm

Quoting miaintl (Reply 41):

Doesn't matter if an A343 can make it or not. Why does it matter? TK knows what they are doing. The obviously are using a 77W, year-round for a reason.

Quoting behramjee (Reply 39):

A lot of convincing was made to make it daily. But TK officials had a meeting with MIA officials as well as the Turkish Consul. They all made good amount of research. Remember, ATL was suppose to come first. Convincing was strong.

Quoting miaintl (Reply 40):

Here we go again

797 · Thu May 07, 2015 4:28 pm

Official Press Release:

Quote:
(Miami, May 7, 2015) – Turkish Airlines, Turkey’s Four-Star rated flag carrier, has officially announced that it will launch Miami-Istanbul service on Sunday, October 25, with direct flights connecting the Gateway of the Americas with the historic gateway linking Europe and Asia. The new service will operate daily using the award-winning carrier’s Boeing 777-300ER aircraft, and Istanbul will mark MIA’s 18th European destination when service begins.

“The leadership team at MIA is to be congratulated for landing yet another major international carrier and for continuing to propel our local economy forward,” said Miami-Dade County Mayor Carlos A. Gimenez. “We welcome Turkish Airlines and its devoted customers to our community with open arms.”

One of the largest and fastest-growing carriers in the world, Turkish Airlines currently serves more than 260 destinations around the globe from its centrally located Istanbul hub, which offers easy access to Africa, Asia, the Middle East and Europe. A member of the Star Alliance, Turkish Airlines’ quick growth has been accompanied by a steady stream of industrywide recognitions for outstanding customer service. Along with being rated a World Top 10 Airline at the Skytrax World Airline Awards each of the past four years, Turkish has also won consecutive “Best Airline in Europe” honors for the same four-year time period. The carrier has also earned accolades for its meal service product in Business Class and Economy Class, alike.

“In a year full of exciting developments at MIA, the introduction of new Miami-Istanbul service on Turkish Airlines is at the top of the list,” said Miami-Dade Aviation Director Emilio T. González. “It doesn’t get better than directly connecting two incredible gateway cities and three continents aboard a world-class carrier. MIA is proud to partner with Turkish Airlines and offer our valued customers access to Istanbul through our ever-expanding network of domestic and international destinations.”

Istanbul – boasting a population exceeding 14 million, more than 2,000 years of history, and a cross section of cultures and religions – draws millions of visitors each year to its historic center, much of which is listed as a UNESCO World Heritage Site. The sixth-largest city in the world straddles the European and Asian continents, separated by the Bosporus strait. Istanbul’s historic center and Ataturk Airport are located on the larger European side of the city.

Miami-Istanbul flights will operate daily, with inbound flights scheduled to arrive in Miami at 8:30 p.m. and scheduled departures to Istanbul at 10:30 p.m. Turkish Airlines’ Boeing 777-300ER aircraft offers a three-class configuration with 28 Business Class seats, 63 Premium Economy seats, and 246 seats in Economy Class for a maximum capacity of 337 passengers.

For more information on Turkish Airlines and to book Miami-Istanbul flights, please visit http://www.turkishairlines.com/.

Miami · Thu May 07, 2015 4:41 pm

Quoting 797 (Reply 43):

Hmmm. That's odd. It was first reported than arrival into MIA was a 7:30 and departure at 9:30.

Miami · Thu May 07, 2015 4:47 pm

A bit more info can be found here http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-us...ines-launches-a-new-route-to-miami

adamh8297 · Thu May 07, 2015 4:50 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 44):
Hmmm. That's odd. It was first reported than arrival into MIA was a 7:30 and departure at 9:30.

It may change for daylight savings time... EK and TK depart BOS an hour earlier in the winter. I would assume the same would be for MIA since the arrivals in IST are identical to those from other US destinations.

727LOVER · Thu May 07, 2015 4:57 pm

OK, so I'm thoroughly confused

Oct 25-31, 2015,

is it flt 77 arriving MIA @ 8:30pm
or
flt 78 arriving MIA @ 4:30pm

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flymia · Thu May 07, 2015 5:03 pm

Already have gotten alerts for some great fares with TK to BCN and MXP under $800 round trip. I know its probably promotional but the more competition the better!

s4popo · Thu May 07, 2015 5:28 pm

Quoting flymia (Reply 49):

I noticed the same thing for numerous European destinations. They were all in the Oct-Nov time frame, which is definitely off-peak.

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