|Quoting kordcj (Reply 166):|
Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 165):
Does anyone know why most heavy arrivals at ORD are handled on 09R/27L? It is extremely rare that anything larger than a 757 lands on 09L/27R, even though both runways are nearly* the same length/width.
I've noticed many heavies landing on nothing but 10C/28C lately. I assume it's the preferred runway for T5 arrivals.
I flew in from LHR
earlier this month (8/10) on a BA
773, and we landed on 27L.
|Quoting nomorerjs (Reply 157):|
Depending on winter weather, it will be ready in time for Summer 16 with BA as the first flight.
I just looked at the AA
website for ORD
during July of 2016. It's showing AA
flying 2 772s and 2 763 (the early and late departures out of ORD
) and BA
flying a 744 and a 773.
were to swap out the 744 for the A380, and AA
adds the second 763 next summer, that is a significant increase in seats.
|Quoting jcwr56 (Reply 162):|
Simple answer is no, they won't. Other gates will be modified to keep 13 jumbo gates available. With AA announcing FCO going to a 777 for S16, FI starting up late March, BR hopefully following through on their startup, MU looking to relaunch ORD, plus at least one new rumored UA route there's questions being asked was the 380 gate really the best move.
In all reality, there will be zero 380 operations at T5 between 1200-2000 since no 380 operator can impact historical flights. Kinda defeats any commercial benefits to fly one in doesn't it?
The only way that BA
could bring in the A380, if this scenario is accurate, is for AA
to realign their afternoon and evening departures. Right now, the afternoon and evening departures are as follows:
AA86 at 5:00 (772)
BA294 at 6:10 (744)
AA86 at 6:20 (772)
BA296 at 8:35 (773)
AA98 at 10:00 (763)
moved its 773 departure to the 6pm slot, AA
moved up its late 763 to 8:30, and BA
then handled the 10pm departure with the A380 (which would arrive at T5
around 8pm), that would keep the A380 out of T5
during the 12noon to 8pm time frame. But, does BA
want an A380 arriving at LHR
the next day at noon?
As for expansion or reconfiguring the terminals, here is the one glaring issue. If a terminal is built on the west side of the field, that creates 3 problems. First is connecting the terminal to the other terminals and remote parking/rental car garage. Ideally, the airport train system would leave Terminal 1, go underground, and arrive at the western terminal. But digging a tunnel under the existing field would be very, very expensive.
You could run the train tracks from the western terminal along the perimeter of the field to the north and east, connecting into the current tracks at the rental car garage that is being built. But, that makes for a long ride for someone connecting from a flight arriving at the western terminal to a departure out of T1. Even connecting between the western terminal and T5
is a long ride.
Second issue is connecting bags. To get a bag from the western terminal to any of the other terminals might require a tunnel, simply because that is an awful long trek for tugs pulling baggage carts.
Third issue is the fact that York Rd/Elmhurst Rd, the street on the west side of the field, doesn't have a full interchange at I-90. Yes, there is talk of building a connector between I-294, south of ORD
, and I-90, to the northwest of ORD
. But, roadway talk can extend for years, before the first shovel of dirt is turned.
Further, I'm not sure you could build a terminal on the west side of the field that could handle the operations of UA
. I'm not sure there is enough room there to build a terminal that could handle all of UA
mainline and Express. Even a terminal large enough to handle AA
's operation would be an issue. It could probably handle the current volume of operations at G, H, K, and L, but that leaves no room for growth.
Remember that when Terminal 1 opened, it was large enough to handle UA
's operation, assuming that every flight was arriving and departing on time. But, the schedule had problems because of delays at ORD
or elsewhere, then it needed to put flights in the penalty box. That's why UA
held onto some of the gates on E.