SpaceshipDC10
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Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Thu May 07, 2015 8:44 pm

Having seen that 'thenoflyzone' added 1Q stats for YYC and YUL in other threads, I think we could have another Canadian airport thread just for that.

YYC - 3,615,580 (+1.1%)

YUL - 3,667,515 (+4.1%)

YVR - 4,614,267 (+6.0%)

YYJ - 383,502 (+5.7)
 
MVAair
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Thu May 07, 2015 9:13 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Thread starter):

I expect YUL to over take YYC this year due to low oil prices.
 
Noise
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Thu May 07, 2015 11:09 pm

Thinking YVR can top 20 million pax this year.
 
Thenoflyzone
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Fri May 08, 2015 12:18 am

Q1

YYZ 9,377,880 (+7.1%)

YEG 1,967,676 (-1.0%)

YOW 1,182,767 (+1.1%)

YWG 932,593 (+4.1)

YQB (- 1.8%)

Basically form the airports with statistics available, YYZ, YVR, YUL and YWG seem to be doing well growth wise. The rest, not so much !
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SpaceshipDC10
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Fri May 08, 2015 12:46 am

Quoting Noise (Reply 2):
Thinking YVR can top 20 million pax this year.

Just for March, their growth was 8.1% with Transborder and Asia Pacific being the most important. In 2014, YVR's numbers were already up 7.7%. With an annual growth of just 3.5%, Vancouver could pass the 20 million mark.
 
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Fri May 08, 2015 1:03 am

Quoting Noise (Reply 2):
Thinking YVR can top 20 million pax this year.

AM just launched MEX, AC just launched KIX, AF launched CDG. The Loonie is weak, which will hurt transborder travel but may also hurt BLI more.

AC have said that YVR will be their biggest growing station in 2015. For that to happen, they need to launch more routes / service increases than just KIX.

And when's that visa-free transit happening, Feds?
 
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Fri May 08, 2015 1:55 am

Quoting opethfan (Reply 5):
AC have said that YVR will be their biggest growing station in 2015. For that to happen, they need to launch more routes / service increases than just KIX.

They upgrades all their Asia 767 to 787 which is big growth, not to mention the move to Rouge on Hawaii and California which should increase their available seats.
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Fri May 08, 2015 2:33 am

What would be the chances on AC launching YVR-MEL?
 
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Fri May 08, 2015 3:04 am

Quoting CPA62 (Reply 7):

What would be the chances on AC launching YVR-MEL?

I think it's pretty high, either MEL or BNE. AC has shifted their winter YYZ-HND route from a 77L last winter to a 789 this winter, freeing up yet another 77L. However, with the current bilateral in place, only one of MEL or BNE can be operated. Also, Canada only has 3000 seats weekly - enough for 11 weekly 77L service: 7 to SYD and 4 to either BNE or MEL.

Any chance of AC starting YVR to South America?
 
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Fri May 08, 2015 4:04 am

Quoting CPA62 (Reply 7):
What would be the chances on AC launching YVR-MEL?

I have a feeling we'll see YVR-BNE before YVR-MEL.
 
Thenoflyzone
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Mon May 11, 2015 9:22 pm

Quoting briguychau (Reply 8):
Any chance of AC starting YVR to South America?


O&D is not large enough and it would be redundant to the South American ops already in place out of YYZ. Plus, YYZ is closer to the great circle route from much of South America to any point in Asia worth serving. Ex, a potential non stop from GRU to NRT passes straight over YYZ if it were to take a great circle route.

So no, i don't think so. If they do launch YVR-South America, it will most certainly hurt the YYZ ops to South America.

Besides BNE, MEL, and possibly DEL (questionable, but plausible), i don't think there is much else AC can add at YVR. Maybe they can give CDG another shot now that the 788s are online, but AF beat them to the punch, and i don't think the route can support two carriers.

[Edited 2015-05-11 14:51:11]
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Mon May 11, 2015 9:44 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 3):
YWG 932,593 (+4.1)

Good news for my home base of YWG. Hopefully the growth increases and in a few years some direct flights to Europe open up. I'm sure the recent switch of the Canada Post contract to Cargojet, the traffic from them has helped as well.

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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Mon May 11, 2015 9:45 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 10):
Besides BNE, MEL, and possibly DEL (questionable, but plausible), i don't think there is much else AC can add at YVR. Maybe they can give CDG another shot now that the 788s are online, but AF beat them to the punch, and i dont think the route can support two carriers.

And SIN?
 
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Mon May 11, 2015 9:48 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 10):
O&D is not large enough and it would be redudant to the South American ops already in place out of YYZ. Plus, YYZ is closer to the great circle route from much of South America to any point in Asia worth serving. Ex, a potential non stop from GRU to NRT passes straight over YYZ if it were to take a great circle route.

So no, i don't think so. If they do launch YVR-South America, it will most certainly hurt the YYZ ops to South America

LAN has been very interested in SCL-LIM-YVR, they have been waiting on the Feds to allow TWOV thru YVR. YVRAA announced
back in November at a Vancouver Board of Trade meeting that this announcement was only a few months away. It sounded like it was
going to happen. Latest rumour has been, the feds are back peddling. Not sure why but can only speculate heavy lobbying
by AIr Canada. Air Canada had originally spoke out against TWOV as it would hurt the flight from YYZ to SCL and other south American
destinations.
I have not heard any more news on this issue since March so I am assuming TWOV thru YVR is dead and thus we will not
see LAN or any other South American airline into YVR for a long time.
 
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Mon May 11, 2015 9:59 pm

Quoting CPA62 (Reply 13):
I have not heard any more news on this issue since March so I am assuming TWOV thru YVR is dead and thus we will not see LAN or any other South American airline into YVR for a long time.

YVR's AGM is in three days (on Thursday) so maybe we'll hear some news then.
 
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 12:46 am

Quoting Noise (Reply 12):
Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 10):
Besides BNE, MEL, and possibly DEL (questionable, but plausible), i don't think there is much else AC can add at YVR. Maybe they can give CDG another shot now that the 788s are online, but AF beat them to the punch, and i dont think the route can support two carriers.

And SIN?

Very small market to/from Canada and little business traffic. When SQ operated YVR-SIN (with a stop at ICN) most of their traffic was low-fare 5th freedom traffic on the ICN-YVR-ICN sectors.
 
Noise
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 2:03 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 15):

Very small market to/from Canada and little business traffic. When SQ operated YVR-SIN (with a stop at ICN) most of their traffic was low-fare 5th freedom traffic on the ICN-YVR-ICN sectors.

Gotcha, thanks for the insight!
 
Thenoflyzone
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 2:47 pm

Quoting Noise (Reply 12):
And SIN?
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 15):
Very small market to/from Canada and little business traffic. When SQ operated YVR-SIN (with a stop at ICN) most of their traffic was low-fare 5th freedom traffic on the ICN-YVR-ICN sectors.

Plus it's too far to act as a connecting hub from Canada to the rest of East Asia.
Japan, China, Taiwan, South Korea, Philippines, are all a backtrack from SIN.

Basically, YVR-SIN has nothing going for it at the moment.

Thenoflyzone
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 2:56 pm

Quoting CPA62 (Reply 13):
LAN has been very interested in SCL-LIM-YVR, they have been waiting on the Feds to allow TWOV thru YVR. YVRAA announced
back in November at a Vancouver Board of Trade meeting that this announcement was only a few months away. It sounded like it was
going to happen. Latest rumour has been, the feds are back peddling. Not sure why but can only speculate heavy lobbying
by AIr Canada. Air Canada had originally spoke out against TWOV as it would hurt the flight from YYZ to SCL and other south American
destinations.
I have not heard any more news on this issue since March so I am assuming TWOV thru YVR is dead and thus we will not
see LAN or any other South American airline into YVR for a long time.

Transit without Visa is already in place in a limited way from certain cities in Asia to the U.S. It is being expanded, with the ultimate aim of international to international, although the latter part is still to be finalized and I don't believe any of the program expansion has been publicly announced.

The carriers are supportive of TWOV expansion so what is the source for the assertion that "Air Canada originally spoke out against TWOV?"
 
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 9:33 pm

Quoting drgmobile (Reply 18):
The carriers are supportive of TWOV expansion so what is the source for the assertion that "Air Canada originally spoke out against TWOV?"

there is no TWOV for South Americans and cities in China other than BJS.

Air Canada spoke out against TWOV at his last Vancouver Board of Trade Speech in 2014 which followed the YVRAA CEO speech in favour of TWOV
 
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RE: Canadian Airports Passengers Numbers 1Q 2015

Tue May 12, 2015 11:36 pm

Quoting Noise (Reply 9):
I have a feeling we'll see YVR-BNE before YVR-MEL.

MEL makes more sense as a market, as it is bigger and also offers same terminal transfer, but operationally BNE will likely be easier to operate, given the longer range required on the former (although same terminal transfer is not available at that airport).

It might as well just stick with SYD though, especially in a period where there could be some volatility in outbound travel from both Australia and Canada.

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