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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:01 am

Does TK offer any advantages over EK as far as connections are concerned?
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:22 am

Quoting VAM8789 (Reply 100):

Does TK offer any advantages over EK as far as connections are concerned?

Central Asia/Africa/Eastern Europe/Russia/Tel Aviv/ (though LY is coming still TK's number one connecting point from USA)

I believe TK serves more Middle East destinations though sometimes EK will put you on flydubai for some destinations.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 99):
ORD and JFK only?

Just JFK but the second frequency would maximize connections.
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:08 pm

Quoting VAM8789 (Reply 100):
Does TK offer any advantages over EK as far as connections are concerned?

1 word: Europe.
Just look at the amount of cities that they serve in Europe, from Germany all the way to Russia.
 
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Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:28 pm

On a related note, DE launched PVD yesterday and is already selling tickets for 2016 im sure PVD will be happy to eat BOS's international crumbs at EK TK and the likes expand there.

http://www.providencejournal.com/article/20150618/NEWS/150619217
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:59 pm

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 103):

On a related note, DE launched PVD yesterday and is already selling tickets for 2016 im sure PVD will be happy to eat BOS's international crumbs at EK TK and the likes expand there.

http://www.providencejournal.com/article/20150618/NEWS/150619217

At the end of the day, I look at it as a benefit to the Southeastern New England region. People fly into PVD who are bound for a city or town in the Metro Boston area. People use BOS who are bound for a city or town in the Metro Providence area. It helps out the entire region. Good for PVD.
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:10 pm

How long would this DE service from/TO from PVD be sustainable? With 100% O&D would this service be sustainable? I don't see much of business travelers using this service - Logan would still continue to the centerpiece for the core areas.
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:24 pm

Their flight is only twice a week (I believe) so there's not a ton of seats to fill.
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:36 pm

Quoting iyerhari (Reply 105):
With 100% O&D would this service be sustainable?

You can connect to LH and other European Carriers with this flight.
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:21 pm

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/06/2...ernational-airlines-choose-boston/

Write up focused primarly on BOS-PVG and how crowded Terminal E is getting.

The author has been a bit off before but he does mention a chance of a possible new airline announcement this week.
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:51 pm

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 108):
Write up focused primarly on BOS-PVG and how crowded Terminal E is getting.

The author has been a bit off before but he does mention a chance of a possible new airline announcement this week.


Interesting stuff and yes the arrivals hall must be getting very tight at times. The number of international passengers (excluding Canada) Jan-May is the highest it has been since the current records on massport begin (Jan 1998) and the expansion has been in larger planes (777 etc.) through that terminal.

Its interesting to note that 2014/2015 pax numbers are 13.2% higher YTD for International (and this is before HU start their new flight) and 3% higher for Domestic, so with our capacity discipline in the US somewhat limiting domestic growth, I think massport see international as not only kudos for BOS in general, but as a way of increasing revenues over time.

massport do not break down by airline, but the Middle East region hit 150K pax YTD in May and Asia hit 94K, Europe, which we thought would take a big hit, actually hasn't and increased from 966K last year to 977K this year. Sure individually some will be doing better than others, but these are the numbers coming out of Logan itself.

We know massport is working on stuff and of course now SW is out of E, they can play around with a few things, but E must be getting close to its limits during that time.

Has there been any more discussion of note about moving the EI depatures to C, as that would at least free up gate space if nothing else?

I wonder if South America is next on the list, with WOW and FI I can't see Scandinavia getting much more love non-stop.
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:00 pm

I'll bet TAP to Lisbon will be next
SATA goes uncontested on that route for the O/D
 
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:28 pm

Quoting VS4ever (Reply 109):
I wonder if South America is next on the list, with WOW and FI I can't see Scandinavia getting much more love non-stop.

I think the view of Scandinavia per the article is Norway/Denmark/Sweden - That's the official definition though Iceland/Finland are lumped in due to geography or language origins.

Quoting Icelandair75w (Reply 110):
I'll bet TAP to Lisbon will be next
SATA goes uncontested on that route for the O/D

TAP codeshares with S4 on the route and the fares are somewhat regulated.

If there is actually is a route announcement I have a feeling it might be EY BOS-AUH or BOS-MXP-AUH

I personally hope for KE/OZ BOS-ICN instead or a pure South American link i.e. AV BOS-BOG or JJ BOS-GRU
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:37 pm

Quoting Icelandair75w (Reply 110):
I'll bet TAP to Lisbon will be next
Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 111):
If there is actually is a route announcement I have a feeling it might be EY BOS-AUH or BOS-MXP-AUH

I personally hope for KE/OZ BOS-ICN instead or a pure South American link i.e. AV BOS-BOG or JJ BOS-GRU

To me, it feels like TP to LIS, SN to BRU or KE or OZ to ICN are the next logical international flights from BOS.
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:45 pm

Wouldn't it be possible that TAP would be logical now that Neeleman has bought that airline? It maybe a 2nd homecoming for him to Boston   Framingham has a large Brazilian population and maybe a good catchment area for the airline.

We had discussed this long back - I think when Deval Patrick was the Governor - that they were scouting for Avianca from Logan? Possiblity?

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 111):
EY BOS-AUH or BOS-MXP-AUH

That would be the final nail in the coffin for US3 carriers to make another case to the Congress stating unfair practices  
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:01 pm

I don't think TP to LIS, yet but you never know.
I mentioned this in reply 64.
http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/ne...nded-to-include-scheduled-services
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:14 am

Globe did not carry any news for the first maiden flight from PVG to BOS. Logan had a ceremonial water gate welcoming ceremony: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...shanghai-and-boston-300102348.html

Good luck Hainan - kudos Massport and Logan!!

On another topic - last week Monday at 6:00 am I saw the Terminal E garage status while approaching Logan that allowed for only 1 hour short duration. How's that possible? Besides BA there are no early am flights I know departing from E - the BA flight is something like 8:30 am EST.
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:14 am

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 111):
TAP codeshares with S4 on the route and the fares are somewhat regulated.

If there is actually is a route announcement I have a feeling it might be EY BOS-AUH or BOS-MXP-AUH

I personally hope for KE/OZ BOS-ICN instead or a pure South American link i.e. AV BOS-BOG or JJ BOS-GRU

Does JJ have the right plane for a flight to BOS?

How many airports in North America has all three of the Middle East carriers? Having 4 daily flights to that region seems like overkill.

Once BOS gets a non-stop flight to South America, there really isn't anything left for them to add. For an airport that isn't a true hub, they will have a very impressive network.
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:25 am

Quoting VAM8789 (Reply 116):
How many airports in North America
JFK, DFW, ORD and LAX (if you consider QR scheduled start sometime Jan 2016)

[Edited 2015-06-21 17:27:12]
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:43 am

Quoting VAM8789 (Reply 116):

Does JJ have the right plane for a flight to BOS?

At 4790 miles - Their A332's, 767-300ER, and 77W's can all do the route. They have 27 A350's on order and are receiving more 767's from LA. It seems that recent Brazilian-USA flights are being launched to feed the mouse in MCO.

Quoting iyerhari (Reply 117):
JFK, DFW and LAX (if you consider QR scheduled start sometime Jan 2016)

Add IAD and ORD as well.
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:38 am

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 118):
At 4790 miles - Their A332's, 767-300ER, and 77W's can all do the route. They have 27 A350's on order and are receiving more 767's from LA. It seems that recent Brazilian-USA flights are being launched to feed the mouse in MCO.

I know they have the planes that can make the distance, I am more thinking the right plane for the route. Would a 77W be too much capacity on GRU-BOS?
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:53 am

Quoting VAM8789 (Reply 119):
I know they have the planes that can make the distance, I am more thinking the right plane for the route. Would a 77W be too much capacity on GRU-BOS?

I think the 763 may be too much plane for this route!
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:05 am

I just saw on a different thread that LOT is going to have flights to BOS in 2016, has this already been announced somewhere and I missed it (probable) or could this in fact be the announcement expected this week, as LOT themselves are announcing tomorrow.
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:47 am

Few months back there was a discussion related to Logan preparedness for potential Boston 2024 Olympics if we were to win the bid - reality is becoming bleaker - looks like the Olympics committee had a discussion related to this with Massport-

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/ne...-airport-will-be-ready-if-the.html

A good read - different discussion if that will ever happen  
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:16 pm

I'm not aware of any new gates that are being built to address the wide body international flights. I know there is a project with terminal e where the southwest gates used to be, but does that add wide body capacity?

In addition to gates, they need seats in that terminal. The evening rush is starting to look like the outside of a Walmart on thanksgiving night.
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:04 pm

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 111):
I personally hope for KE/OZ BOS-ICN

ditto. crossing fingers for OZ. unfortunately for us, looks like it'll be LO (as VS4ever mentioned).

an ICN flight would offer some great connections.
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:10 pm

Quoting iyerhari (Reply 122):
Few months back there was a discussion related to Logan preparedness for potential Boston 2024 Olympics if we were to win the bid - reality is becoming bleaker - looks like the Olympics committee had a discussion related to this with Massport-

Actually the big has gained some traction as they start to move events out of the city. Boston 2024 is getting a lot of support from neighboring towns and if this goes to a state wide referendum it will win, easily.
On the topic of Logan, this was discussed heavily in the past. As proven in past events the Olympics don't draw an unusually high number of visitors when compared to a typical high season in other years. A lot of the specific Olympics traffic arrives over 1 or 2 days with a lot of charters that can operate outside of the regular peak times. In addition, they can use neighboring airports.

Quoting tlecam (Reply 123):
I'm not aware of any new gates that are being built to address the wide body international flights. I know there is a project with terminal e where the southwest gates used to be, but does that add wide body capacity?

Terminal E is currently being expanded to the North to support 3 A380 gates, with expanded holding areas, security screening, and baggage carrousels. You can read all about it here:
http://www.massport.com/business-wit...tal-programs/detail/?proj=L1346-D1
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:37 pm

So, compiling the above 10 or so responses,
possible list of destinations/entrants are still:

BOS-ICN KE / OZ

BOS-BOG AV
BOS-GRU JJ

BOS-LIS TP
BOS-WAW LO

BOS-BRU SN
BOS-MXP EY / 9W

BOS-AUH EY

Quoting rnav2dlrey (Reply 124):
ditto. crossing fingers for OZ. unfortunately for us, looks like it'll be LO (as VS4ever mentioned).

an ICN flight would offer some great connections.

Come on! Even LOT would be great news for BOS ... another cool 788 P2P entry ... and onward connections past ... to borrow Rumsfeld's words .... "old Europe"   
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:37 pm

As the Olympics are only a few weeks, much of the incoming traffic - certainly the charters at least - can be diverted to Pease and Providence.
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:55 pm

Some great BOS shots in this post on the Trip Reports forum:

1969- LGA-BOS-LGA -Northeast Airlines And AA
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:29 pm

Quoting ASA (Reply 126):
So, compiling the above 10 or so responses,
possible list of destinations/entrants are still:

There's a lot of other possibilities

AI BOS-DEL - Massport has wanted it but I believe India is prohibited from starting new routes right now for safety rankings.

AD BOS-VCP/CNF - AD is probably done with North America expansion for now

DY BOS-LGW/BCN/ARN/CPH - another one who may be done expanding

SK BOS-CPH - heard unsubstantiated rumors and CPH airport wants it served

CI/BR BOS-TPE - BR seems to want to go the *A hubs first though. CI is a wild card here.

NH BOS-NRT - No reason there cannot be two carriers on the route. NH has a better hub in NRT as well.
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:15 pm

Quoting ASA (Reply 126):
BOS-WAW LO

You can scratch this. LOT's announcement was already made today and it did not include BOS.
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:00 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 130):
You can scratch this. LOT's announcement was already made today and it did not include BOS.

Yes, sadly i was going off the original info that was posted on that particular thread that did include it, but you are right, nothing going to happen there. Although there is a reasonable size Polish community in MA, so never say never.

"As of 2000 the largest were the Irish (22.5% of the population), Italian (13.5%), English (11.4%), French (8%), Polish (5.1%), and Portuguese (4.4%). In that year, the foreign born numbered 772,983, or 12.2% of the state's population"

for what it's worth. Massport stats have a South America box and an Australia box to complete, but I really don't think that QF or NZ is coming anytime soon.. too far for one thing.

So I will revert to type and think it's another ME3 flight (ignoring the 2nd EK one already announced), something from South America (stated aim) or yet another Asia route.

As i've noted above, these flights from Asia and the Middle East do seem to be dragging additional pax through BOS as the Euro totals are not reducing heavily as a result of their introduction.

If I had a preference, I would go with South America, because it's new and different (and I can track it!!!)
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:16 pm

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 129):
SK BOS-CPH - heard unsubstantiated rumors and CPH airport wants it served
SAS To Add 3 More Long Haul Airplanes In 2016

  
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:21 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 130):
You can scratch this. LOT's announcement was already made today and it did not include BOS.

Thanks for the confirmation, but honestly, even before that - I was scratching my head about this.  

We've been discussing the growth of international traffic and routes from BOS for a while now - and never did I hear any solid info about LO's intentions or even possibilties (well, there's always some ... but it was really remote). So ... if there is really a new destination announcement this Thursday ... I call for  ... KE to ICN or AD to VCP

[Edited 2015-06-22 11:22:50]
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:06 pm

Really hoping for a GRU/VCP flight although not sure how likely it is.
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:05 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 125):
Terminal E is currently being expanded to the North to support 3 A380 gates, with expanded holding areas, security screening, and baggage carrousels. You can read all about it here:
http://www.massport.com/business-wit...tal-programs/detail/?proj=L1346-D1

As usual, thanks!

I think I knew that at one time and forgot.



On the topic of new destinations, my guesses are South America, ME3, Copenhagen and Brussels, ordered from more to less likely.
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:09 pm

Quoting ASA (Reply 126):
BOS-BOG AV

this one seems more likely as Avianca has submitted an application to the Colombian aviation authority to fly BOG-BOS-BOG (also BOG-YYZ-BOG)


This application does not mean in imminent service, but I do think that we'll see them happen within a year.

[Edited 2015-06-22 16:00:02]
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:41 pm

Quoting summa767 (Reply 136):
Avianca has submitted an application to the Colombian aviation authority to fly BOG-BOG-BOG (Also BOG-YYZ)

Did you mean BOG-BOS-BOG?

Quoting summa767 (Reply 136):
I guess that they would use A319s and A320Neo when these are available.

Its shorter than BOS-SFO and direction is north-south so winds won't be a big deal so any A320 family plane should work.

I would guess they shoot for either April Launch or Maybe December to snatch up Holiday and student traffic.
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:03 pm

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 137):
Did you mean BOG-BOS-BOG?

indeed. As well as BOG-BOG

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 137):
Its shorter than BOS-SFO and direction is north-south so winds won't be a big deal so any A320 family plane should work.
BOG being a hot & high airport means that an A320 would be restricted. A321 would definitely not be used. So A319 it would be (except maybe for the odd A320 sub), until NEO.

[Edited 2015-06-22 16:04:09]
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:08 pm

Quoting summa767 (Reply 138):
indeed. As well as BOG-YYZ-BOG

Thanks was this available online or just inside info? With open skies do they need to submit anything to US DOT?

Quoting summa767 (Reply 138):
BOG being a hot & high airport means that an A320 would be restricted

Forgot about BOG's elevation
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:13 pm

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 139):
Thanks was this available online or just inside info? With open skies do they need to submit anything to US DOT?

It will be online in the next couple of days. Will update when source is available.
Not sure about the US procedures now, but maybe just a note to DOT should suffice, rather than an application as such.
 
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Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:12 am

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 139):

Quoting summa767 (Reply 138):
indeed. As well as BOG-YYZ-BOG

Thanks was this available online or just inside info? With open skies do they need to submit anything to US DOT?

Quoting summa767 (Reply 138):
BOG being a hot & high airport means that an A320 would be restricted

Forgot about BOG's elevation

TA previously served BOS so I also would not rule out AV operating to SAL.
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:22 am

B6 to put mint on two of its daily BOS-SFO flights - Spring 2016

http://airlineroute.net/2015/06/23/b6-bossfo-mar16/

[Edited 2015-06-23 03:23:47]
Airlines flown: A3, AA, AC, AF, AM, BA, B6, CA, CO, CX, DL, EA, EL, IB, LH, MI, MQ, NH, NW, NZ, OU, PE, QF, S4, SQ, TP, UA, US, VS, WE, WN

2019: CX BOS-HKG, WE HKG-HKT, CA HKT-PEK-EWR, B6 EWR-BOS
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:31 am

Hurrah! Finally!

Globe has carried a detailed article:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/.../wYZufx32fnjkQk2IQMBI0H/story.html

B6 is also adding three addnl flights to LA and starting Nashville and increasing their frequencies to other destinations.

Looks like B6 has upped their ante for Logan.
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:39 am



Quoting iyerhari (Reply 143):
B6 is also adding three addnl flights to LA and starting Nashville and increasing their frequencies to other destinations.

USA Today story says two daily A320 flights to BNA and also a BNA-FLL flight - that has to be a response to WN Starting BOS-AUS.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...d-mint-service-to-boston/29139903/

This article says Mint will be on the Saturday only BOS-BGI flight in Mar 2016 as well. This makes sense since the 8:00 am BOS-SFO flight does not run on Saturday. I was wondering if they were going to put it on BOS-AUA instead.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/jet...06-23-6173038?reflink=MW_news_stmp

[Edited 2015-06-23 03:43:36]
Airlines flown: A3, AA, AC, AF, AM, BA, B6, CA, CO, CX, DL, EA, EL, IB, LH, MI, MQ, NH, NW, NZ, OU, PE, QF, S4, SQ, TP, UA, US, VS, WE, WN

2019: CX BOS-HKG, WE HKG-HKT, CA HKT-PEK-EWR, B6 EWR-BOS
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:28 am

Quite sure - these additions plus any new additions will bring them closer to 140 daily departures from Logan by summer 2016. All good for Boston!
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:36 pm

Guess I know where the spare 320's are going when they change up to the 321's for Mint  ..... this is excellent news all around, I like their usage of the Mint aircraft on the Saturday for a Caribbean run, nice ultilization there. I can see a lot of honeymooners or wedding parties take advantage of that for their special trips.

Continues the feed to BOS (interesting to note that BOS has more departures than FLL) to link up all these international carriers that have been arriving and will continue to arrive in the coming months.

Do I remember hearing right that B6 think they are going to top out at 150 daily depatures from BOS, i thought i saw that somewhere, but might have been seeing things.
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:41 am

I was surprised and pleased to the Sands 747SP parked on the ramp west of Terminal E tonight. Is that plane here often?
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:49 pm

How many people remember the old days when airlines paid little attention to Boston because it was 'Too Close To New York?' (Trademark applied for).

     
 
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RE: Boston Aviation - Part 4

Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:53 pm

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 148):
How many people remember the old days when airlines paid little attention to Boston because it was 'Too Close To New York?'

BOS is a pretty interesting and unique market and has gone through quite an evolution along with the airline industry in general. In the "true" old days, BOS was pretty vibrant due to an affluent O&D market and its proximity as a gateway to Europe. Then everything changed with the development of hub-and-spoke, under which BOS really is too close to New York. But the pendulum swung too far with hub-and-spoke and then new aircraft like the 787 and 350 came onto the market. Both of those things began to drive the BOS renaissance with B6 first recognizing an underserved domestic market and then foreign carriers taking advantage of the underserved international market. And most recently, the strategies of B6 and the foreign carriers have merged to create something really extraordinary. Interesting evolution indeed!

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