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Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Mon May 11, 2015 3:51 pm

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Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 1 (by someone83 Jan 5 2015 in Civil Aviation)

Wasn't it in Scandinavia that airliners.net was founded back in the late 90s (1998 or so)?

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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Mon May 11, 2015 5:30 pm

Quoting American 767 (Thread starter):
Wasn't it in Scandinavia that airliners.net was founded back in the late 90s (1998 or so)?

Indeed it was. Launched in 1997 by Johan Lundgren.

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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Tue May 12, 2015 1:28 pm

Indeed. He started this in his dorm room at Luleå University. And I was wondering why suddenly a lot of the Internet traffic was going to someones dorm  
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed May 13, 2015 7:54 am

OSL passenger numbers April:
OSL: 1.983.606 -0,3% Domestic: 902.728 -0,5% International 1.079.490 0,0%

YTD: 7.212.872 +0,2%. Domestic is down 1,5% due to slowdown within the oil, while international trafific is up 2,3%. The transfer share YTD is 24,2%, not far away from what CPH got
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed May 13, 2015 8:24 am

Due to the closure of GSE in November last year, GOT has been growing steadily for a few months in a row.
April saw the growth going even bigger becuase of the start of summer season, meaning alot more flights on Ryanair and Wizzair!

Domestic: 126,356 (+5%)
International: 379,000 (+30%)
Total: 505,356 (+22%)

YTD
Domestic: 448,663 (-1%)
International: 1,318,047 (+21%)
Total: 1,766,680 (+14%)

(Note the 30% jump in international travelers in April!)

Even without the added traffic from former GSE-flights, GOT saw an increase of 4% "on its own"...
For the full year it looks like the airport will grow from 5.2 million passengers last year to 6.1 million in 2015!

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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed May 13, 2015 11:38 am

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 4):

I am still surprised that none of the MEB3 is at GOT.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed May 13, 2015 12:33 pm

Quoting arn777 (Reply 5):
I am still surprised that none of the ME3 is at GOT.

IIRC there were rumours or something like that last year that EK would start a new route to GOT
but obviously it haven't happened yet.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Fri May 15, 2015 12:10 pm

Shortly after United announced EWR-ARN and OSL to become a seasonal route, SAS is announcing an increase on the same routes during the winter season. Both will go from 6x weekly to daily the coming winter

http://www.sasgroup.net/en/sas-oker-antallet-avganger-til-new-york/
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Fri May 15, 2015 4:49 pm

Just to pass on to the Scandinavian aviation thread: Norwegian Air Shuttle Got A Second Spanish AOC! (by lesfalls May 14 2015 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Sat May 16, 2015 7:41 pm

I will be travelling with SK907 this summer. Late June and SK908 early July. Anyone know if it will have the upgraded cabin? I have tried to follow how many cabins are upgraded, but must say I am not sure. Is the upgrade going according to schedule and will all be upgradet by June? I asked earlier and got a big YES, but I have not seen more updates since the initial launch. Looking forward to this great trip  
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Sat May 16, 2015 8:19 pm

Quoting oykie (Reply 9):
Anyone know if it will have the upgraded cabin? I have tried to follow
how many cabins are upgraded

I don't know. SK only has 4 A330 afaik and the 2nd A330 (OSL based Edmund Viking)
got it's upgrade finished a few days into April so a guess from my side is that all 4 A330
will have been upgraded by late June. That is if the upgrade all 4 A330s before upgrading
(some of?) the A340s.

[Edited 2015-05-16 13:21:31]
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Sat May 16, 2015 8:20 pm

Quoting oykie (Reply 9):

I will be travelling with SK907 this summer. Late June and SK908 early July. Anyone know if it will have the upgraded cabin? I have tried to follow how many cabins are upgraded, but must say I am not sure. Is the upgrade going according to schedule and will all be upgradet by June? I asked earlier and got a big YES, but I have not seen more updates since the initial launch. Looking forward to this great trip  

Yes, unless it will het swapped into a A340 in the last minute

Their 3rd A330 just finished cabin reconfiguration and was recently put into traffic, while the 4th is now in ZRH for the new cabin. I.E as long as it is a A330 your're now guarentied the new cabin
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Sat May 16, 2015 9:51 pm

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 10):
Quoting Someone83 (Reply 11):

Thank you for a quick reply!   I really look forward to try their new product.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed May 20, 2015 7:27 am

Quote:
Boeing 737 -8JP 41136 5415 LN-NHE Norwegian Air Shuttle delivery 19may15 BFI-OSL

Norwegian took delivery of another 737-800, LN-NHE/ln5415, yesterday
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed May 20, 2015 5:59 pm

Looks like the "mediator" are unable to strike a deal between SPF (Swedish Pilot Union) and SAS. A strike from Midnight 21 May looks more an more likely. This could affect 60-70% of all SAS flights.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed May 20, 2015 11:45 pm

Quoting CPHFF (Reply 14):
A strike from Midnight 21 May looks more an more likely.

117 flights cancelled on Thursday 21 May according to http://www.sas.dk/info/

Quoting CPHFF (Reply 14):
This could affect 60-70% of all SAS flights.

No, not even close. Maybe 60-70% of SK flights to/from/within Sweden?

Denmark is mostly unaffected. Even flights CPH - ARN are on schedule. It seems like only CPH - SFO is affected - presumably due to irreplaceable Swedish flight crew on that plane.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Thu May 21, 2015 7:25 am

Air France will be ceasing their 2x daily CDG-SVG route October 25th, after only 1,5 years in operation
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Thu May 21, 2015 7:55 am

Quoting CPHFF (Reply 14):
Looks like the "mediator" are unable to strike a deal between SPF (Swedish Pilot Union) and SAS. A strike from Midnight 21 May looks more an more likely. This could affect 60-70% of all SAS flights.

An agreement with the Swedish pilots has been reached, so no strike among them. Although something like 110 flights was cancelled today as a precaution action decided yesterday

However, one of the two pilot group in Norway didn't reach an agreement and has started a strike. However, at this time, only six pilots has been call to strike, so the disturbance is limited

Quoting prebennorholm (Reply 15):
It seems like only CPH - SFO is affected - presumably due to irreplaceable Swedish flight crew on that plane.

AFAIK Norwegian, as those six mentioned above are all long haul pilots
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Thu May 28, 2015 7:20 am

The (minor] strike among the Norwegian SAS pilots that has affected quite a few long haul flights the last week is now over according to the SAS Pilot union
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Fri May 29, 2015 7:41 pm

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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Fri May 29, 2015 8:09 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 19):

Good for DY I suppose and it Will save them some money.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Fri May 29, 2015 9:41 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 19):
Seems ARN will get US preclearance: http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/svenskar-far-graddfil-in-i-usa/

Do you think this will mean that routes to the US will increase from ARN and decrease from OSL or CPH? Maybe even Canadian routes since they count as US domestic flights IIRC?
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Fri May 29, 2015 10:20 pm

Quoting SDLSimme (Reply 21):

In this thread it states that they will also have precelarance at OSL : US DHS Wants To Add 10 New Pre-Clearance Airports (by ScottB May 29 2015 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Sat May 30, 2015 11:56 am

Quoting B747forever (Reply 19):
Seems ARN will get US preclearance

OSL has been nominated for preclearance as well

Quoting SDLSimme (Reply 21):
Do you think this will mean that routes to the US will increase from ARN and decrease from OSL or CPH?

Not necessary, and it also depend on the amount of feed on the different routes. Preclearance will also increase the minimum connection times, so it has a down side as well
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Sat May 30, 2015 10:37 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 23):
Not necessary, and it also depend on the amount of feed on the different routes. Preclearance will also increase the minimum connection times, so it has a down side as well

Good point, didn't think of that.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:48 pm

Quoting arn777 (Reply 5):
I am still surprised that none of the MEB3 is at GOT.
Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 6):

IIRC there were rumours or something like that last year that EK would start a new route to GOT
but obviously it haven't happened yet.

Yes, that's what we're all waiting for here in GOT. With the absence of TG, CA or any other Asian carrier for that matter (or even Norwegian eastbound), it wouldn't be a challenge for Gothenburg to fill a QR 787 five times weekly. Eventhough Etihad doesn't serve the Scandinavian capitals yet, I even bet they would succed with the A330-200.
This past winter, there were days when around 150 passengers flew GOT-XXX-AUH-XXX! And this was without a nonstop. So a nonstop GOT-AUH on EY would probably overtake these and generate even more...

Same goes for QR! EK on the other hand, always want to start up with daily 77Ws which might be a little too much for GOT...

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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:50 am

More or less like expected, but it will be GOT that will be sacrified after SAS sold two LHR slots pair. This means both the daily GOT-LHR will be moved to GOT-STN


Other route changes the coming winter:

OSL-VNO will be a new route, operated 4x weekly. Last year it was operated about handfull days around Christmas. However SAS will do something similar with BGO-WAW the coming winter with about four flight around Christmas

CPH-SFO will be increased to daily

ARN-MUC will be flown 3x weekly during the Alp's ski high season in February and March.

In addition we'll see and increase in frequencies on several routes, especially to the Mediterrenaen destinastions from all three capital cities
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:01 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 26):
GOT-STN

Why not LGW? Business passengers are not going to be using this route... They may as well fly Säve to Stansted.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:06 pm

So... SAS is going to limit the number of alcoholic beverages served to passengers in SAS Plus on European routes to 3 units.

SAS are blaming this on "a number of incidents" last summer where drunkenness caused some issues. Personally, I think this is just another way to cut costs by hiding it behind a smoke screen of morality. If you cut the "premium" product on short-haul routes then valued business customers will just flock to other airlines.

Also, the lack of backbone the company has is ridiculous. Most other airlines will state that where a customer is obviously inebriated, you stop serving them alcohol! This should be the rule being enforced. Some people can drink 8 beers and be completely fine whilst others have a problem after just a couple...

Bye bye common sense (again).

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http://www.nrk.no/nordland/sas-kutter-i-gratis-alkohol-1.12389614
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:22 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 27):
They may as well fly Säve

Nope, GSE is closed for commercial jet traffic, only general aviation and taxi flights are
allowed to fly to/from GSE.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:15 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 27):

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 26):
GOT-STN

Why not LGW? Business passengers are not going to be using this route... They may as well fly Säve to Stansted.


Probably due to slots
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:35 pm

The Norwegian flight out of Oakland was 60 hours delayed yesterday. Does anyone know if they got airborne this morning?

http://www.tv2.no/v/921663/
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:49 pm

Quoting JetBuddy (Reply 31):

First time time a while for a DY flight to be so badly delayed.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:50 pm

Quoting JetBuddy (Reply 31):
Does anyone know if they got airborne this morning?

I don't know but I think that the departure time is perhaps local time?

That would mean that they are scheduled to depart OAK at 09.00 local time today which is 18.00 CEST.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:38 am

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 26):
In addition we'll see and increase in frequencies on several routes, especially to the Mediterrenaen destinastions from all three capital cities

More to follow, but this is the known increases so far according to airlineroute.net

Quote:

Copenhagen – Manchester Increase from 13 to 18 weekly
Stockholm – Manchester Increase from 7 to 11 weekly
Stockholm – Prague Increase from 4 to 5 weekly
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:47 am

Quoting JetBuddy (Reply 31):
The Norwegian flight out of Oakland was 60 hours delayed yesterday. Does anyone know if they got airborne this morning?

On its way from OAK now, over 70 hours delayed. And it has scheduled a stop in KEF, so by the time they arrive in OSL the delay will be even bigger
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:32 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 35):

Why were they delayed so badly?
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:46 pm

Seems like Emirates won the battle on OSL-DXB over Norwegian as Norwegian will cease their winter seasonal 3x weekly OSL-DXB. Instead they will increase ARN-DXB to 6x weekly, and including the 1x weekly CPH-DXB, they will still offer daily flights between Scandinavia and Dubai

Quoting lesfalls (Reply 36):
Why were they delayed so badly?

One of their 787s needed a new engine and a replacement aircraft was hired from EuroAtlantic. But due to crew rest etc, this aircraft as well became significant delayed
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:56 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 37):

Is overall demand to DXB that much bigger from ARN than OSL that it warrants both DY and EK to fly the route? Or is it the case that EK has not been able to take enough market shares from DY?
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:16 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 38):

I believe there is not that the demand is not that much greater from ARN than OSL but DY also states that DXB-OSL very often need to stop at ARN for refueling so the distance seems to be too long for their 738, something that adds cost for DY.
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:16 am

Quoting arn777 (Reply 39):
I believe there is not that the demand is not that much greater from ARN than OSL but DY also states that DXB-OSL very often need to stop at ARN for refueling so the distance seems to be too long for their 738, something that adds cost for DY.

Also why would you want to spend hours on a DY 738 on those nasty hard seats? Maybe OSL passengers value being able to feel their arses more than ARN passengers?  
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:41 am

Quoting B747forever (Reply 38):

Is overall demand to DXB that much bigger from ARN than OSL that it warrants both DY and EK to fly the route? Or is it the case that EK has not been able to take enough market shares from DY?

Not sure if I read you correctly, but EK has only recently started their OSL-DXB route, and is serving it with brand new 77Ws. So my educated guess is that EK has taken a huge market share from DY from OSL.

Quoting arn777 (Reply 39):
DXB-OSL very often need to stop at ARN for refueling so the distance seems to be too long for their 738

Good point.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:17 pm

STN have just announced on twitter that SAS will be flying there from october15 I can not seem to copy the link from my phone and does this news deserve it's own thread
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:39 pm

Quoting Gazdon121 (Reply 42):
STN have just announced on twitter that SAS will be flying
there from october15 I can not seem to copy the link from my phone and does this news
deserve it's own thread

It is mentioned in these articles as well:
http://www.traveldailynews.com/news/...66462/sas-winter-program-over-half
http://www.businessclass.se/forum/th...%A5n-heathrow-till-stansted.26951/

[Edited 2015-06-04 06:41:58]
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:43 pm

I just started a new thread regarding this news as it is stansted that announced it if mods don't agree then please delete
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:42 pm

SAS have announced larger aircraft from LHR to Scandinavia. Does this mean B738 from LHR to OSL/SVG/ARN and A321 to CPH or could we see A321s from OSL/ARN and even the odd A330/A340 from CPH?
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:21 pm

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 45):
Does this mean B738 from LHR to OSL/SVG/ARN and A321 to CPH

Yes, but this is often used today, and it all depends on demand. So likely, not a big change from today
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:11 am

I remember the days when SK regularly flew the 767 from FBU to LHR... How times have changed.
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:17 am

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 47):
I remember the days when SK regularly flew the 767 from FBU to LHR... How times have changed.

But with a lower frequency......and probably not that often full
 
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RE: Scandinavian Aviation 2015 - Part 2

Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:54 pm

Haian airlines will be starting PEK-CPH on sep 3rd and HGH-CPH on sep 6.


Link: http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/ne...es-eyes-denmark-for-longhaul-debut
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