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CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 7:02 pm

CNN just released a Top Ten Airport Approaches list. While this list does contain some impressive approaches lesser-known to the general public, the highly-suspect list ignores Alaska, Hawaii, and Switzerland entirely--but places LAS at #2 on the list. That's pretty high for my blood.

Link: http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/12/travel...scenic-airport-landings/index.html

The list:
1. ZQN
2. LAS
3. NCE
4. BRR
5. SXM
6. SAB
7. GIB
9. LCY
10. CPT

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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 7:36 pm

SFO and SEA on sunny days are great. LAS is a vast wasteland. LGA has probably the best views I have ever seen, holding circling and crossing Manhattan at 2000'. DCA southbond approach or northbound departure gives a great view of the nation's capital in the spring and summer.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 7:38 pm

Quoting FlightShadow (Thread starter):
LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach  

Must be flying over Wayne Newton's estate.
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 7:43 pm

I guess they never flew to Bora Bora or any of its sister Islands.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 7:45 pm

I have to add the approach to LHR from the east. You fly over almost every major London Landmark from east to west and you can see them all in detail.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 7:45 pm

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 2):
Must be flying over Wayne Newton's estate.

Not Wayne's any longer. Even still, LAS????? No way.
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 7:47 pm

I would think flying pretty close to buildings on approach into SAN would qualify too, but eh.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 7:52 pm

Flying into Vegas at night can be pretty darn cool.

Also, lots of hotels nearby the strip offer great views of McCarran especially Luxor
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 7:53 pm

This stuff is all subjective; I personally think you guys are being way too harsh on LAS. I've flown a lot of places, and I'd put LAS near the top of my list as well. You just don't see scenery like that many places around the world. Even other desert countries don't look like that. Then coming in right next to the strip, especially if you come in at dusk, there really is no other approach like that.
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 8:02 pm

The old Kai Tak surely would have been in the top ten if it was still operational. I'm a little surprised Innsbruck didn't make the list.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 8:06 pm

Flying into LAS is amazing especially at night. you are so close.

I agree with this
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 8:26 pm

I call BS on LAS. I've not found the approach all that memorable. I'm surprised with some of the omissions. I'd suggest the approach into DCA, for instance, is far more interesting.
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 8:30 pm

No SAN? Coming in on final you are lower than the tops of the downtown buildings you pass plus the harbor plus often and aircraft carrier or two.

I can see SXM from a spotter's standpoint but at OAK, you come in for landing over water and newbies briefly wonder if you'll land on the water till the last second...
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 8:34 pm

Haven't been to LAS, but can they really beat Ushuaia (USH) ? The approach between the mountains was great.

BTW what's so scenic about the approach to NCE? Maybe I've missed something, but it's a very usual approach over water. Nothing special.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 8:39 pm

There's like 100,000 airports in the world...why would it shock anyone that their "vote" wouldn't have made the list?

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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 8:43 pm

No Paro, Bhutan?

Quoting tmiw (Reply 6):
I would think flying pretty close to buildings on approach into SAN would qualify too, but eh.

One of my first thoughts. You get awfully low to the hills about 20 minutes out and then zoom past downtown. Unless the winds are pushing the other way (happened to me once) and you land from the ocean side, in which case it's kind of "meh".

The weather was so bad a few years back that we couldn't see ground until we were practically on it. I looked out and was so disoriented because we had landed from the west, a first for me, and for a minute thought we were in the wrong airport!

Quoting spinkid (Reply 7):
Flying into Vegas at night can be pretty darn cool.

Indeed. During the day it's not that special, but at night it's pretty cool.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 8:44 pm

LAS Approach???? Generally from the East, over vast open dry desert, remains of Lake Mead and the suburban sprawl of Las Vegas. It might be OK at night on finals looking at the strip but I'd hardly rank it as #2 in the world. I'd rank SLC above LAS just for the mountains in winter and the opportunity to look down into the Bingham mine big pit, and I'd hardly call that a world beating approach. Sounds like someone at CNN with not much to do threw together a few random places they'd like to visit.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 8:45 pm

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 14):
There's like 100,000 airports in the world...why would it shock anyone that their "vote" wouldn't have made the list?

It's more that the current lists includes airports (at least one, NCE) of which I wonder how it can get on such a list.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 8:55 pm

Is Wayne Newton still alive?? O.o

I prefer JAC, SFO, BOS, LGA, DCA, ASE, ORD....hell, even BWI over LAS.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 9:28 pm

I am biased but when arriving at ORD from the east from Lake Michigan, the view looking south with the lakefront and downtown skyline can be pretty amazing, especially if you get the right light...
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 9:40 pm

Quoting FlightShadow (Thread starter):
LAS at #2 on the list. That's pretty high for my blood.

LAS shouldn't even be on the list. What's scenic about flying over empty desert and then over a concrete jungle with more than average neon lights per square foot than any where else in the world perhaps?
Surprising to see SFO not in the top 10. An approach from the northwest over the city with the golden gate bridge in full view and then looping over the bay for an over water approach into the 28s got to be one of the most scenic approaches out there. Definitely not LAS.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 9:41 pm

I agree, during the day the approach into LAS isn't that exciting. But sometimes you get to pass by the Grand Canyon and Lake Mead.

Night is much better. It's pitch black all around and then comes a patch of bright lights. If you land on runway 19L, you come in parallel to the Strip. Still, the Strip doesn't come into view until the very end. (But when you take-off on this runway and head west, the views are amazing. See image below: )





So, despite my bias as a LAS resident, I don't agree with the article. Also surprised LHR isn't on there, seeing Big Ben and the London Eye from up above is amazing...

- Ytraveller

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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 9:48 pm

Quoting tmiw (Reply 6):
I would think flying pretty close to buildings on approach into SAN would qualify too, but eh.

That would make it to the "world's most adventurous & scariest approaches" list. Not scenic approaches IMHO.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 10:03 pm

I just flew through LAS a couple weeks ago, and once again I was absolutely mesmerized during our midday approach above unspoiled canyons, lakes and mountains up until the last few moments when the clean, modern outskirts of the city give way to the world famous Strip. As exciting as it is to fly past Manhattan on approach to LGA or over the Potomac River on approach to DCA I do think the combination of raw natural beauty and then unmistakable Las Vegas landmarks is very, very tough to beat.
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 10:07 pm

CNN's guys should try landing on SDU, especially on runway 02R.
Landing on CGH runway 17R is also nice when it gets close to the sea of buildings.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 10:22 pm

LAS can be pretty scenic depending on what side you are sitting on. Ive flown in there right over lake Mead and above Hoover damn and that was pretty cool. Coming in at night too is cool to see the lights. Its like an oasis in the middle of no where.

Quoting United787 (Reply 19):
I am biased but when arriving at ORD from the east from Lake Michigan, the view looking south with the lakefront and downtown skyline can be pretty amazing, especially if you get the right light...

love flying into ORD when you can get that view. I remember one time taking off on the way from ORD-PNS we took off to the east and immediately banked south, it was a crystal clear day and I was on the side that had awesome views of the skyline and lake michigan
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 10:22 pm

I have to agree with ZQN after going in numerous times for work I never get sick of the views in and out of this airport.
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 10:24 pm

SYD should be in there, you get a gorgeous view of the harbour and the beaches on approach.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 10:26 pm

Agree with GIB's place on the list. It's genuinely spectacular. Not as good as a Westerly takeoff sitting on the left hand side though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU1TaOUKZI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKgISKK0Sg

I'm surprised LHR isn't on there, given that you're sometimes holding right over London, it's quite exciting.

INN would have been quite justified as well.

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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 10:26 pm

This ranking is pretty meaningless, but I will say that LAS from the northwest is pretty sweet too. You come in very low over the mountains (and if it's late in the day, the sun hits them and makes for incredible colors) and then the city sitting in the valley below reveals itself.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Tue May 12, 2015 11:26 pm

I was contacted last year by Privatefly to vote for NCE the winner in 2014. Got the request again this year so the ranking is very subjective. Nothing to do with CNN. Had I lived in Gibraltar for example I would have been happy to support GIB
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 12:45 am

Is it LAS because of the Grand Canyon and other scenic sights? I can agree with that. Zion, Grand Canyon, there is a lot of natural beauty in that area. Or is LAS on the list because some casino companies paid to promote their city?
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 12:57 am

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 31):
Is it LAS because of the Grand Canyon and other scenic sights? I can agree with that. Zion, Grand Canyon, there is a lot of natural beauty in that area. Or is LAS on the list because some casino companies paid to promote their city

I was thinking it must be because of the Grand Canyon and Hoover Dam as well as the lights of Las Vegas itself.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 1:37 am

Where is SYD on this list?

Also HNL, if approaching from the west flying over all the islands.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 2:23 am

Quoting nzrich (Reply 26):
I have to agree with ZQN after going in numerous times for work I never get sick of the views in and out of this airport.

I agree with Queenstown as top on the list, but missing some airports as well. I even think that 20-30% of the airports of the world have nice if not even spectacular approaches (if the wind is right).

Other Airports:

Innsbruck - you have to fly there! Every approach is stunning.
Geneva - just spectacular when the weather is nice (Lake, Mont Blanc, hills very close to the approach)
Beirut - sit on the left side and you will see beautiful mountains and on the final fly across the city centre.
Dubrovnik - especially during "Bura" (gusty mountain winds, where you have to make a 180° turn on short final)
Sarajevo - approach very close to the mountains
Katmandu - everyone knows
Sydney - spectacular city sights when right wind and sitting on the left site
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 2:39 am

Quoting barney captain (Reply 5):
Not Wayne's any longer.

Yes it is, he got it back again.

Quoting Ytraveller (Reply 21):
So, despite my bias as a LAS resident, I don't agree with the article.

Same here, it can be amazing at night, but there are far better out there.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 2:42 am

Quoting FlightShadow (Thread starter):
CNN just released a Top Ten Airport Approaches list. While this list does contain some impressive approaches lesser-known to the general public, the highly-suspect list ignores Alaska, Hawaii, and Switzerland entirely--but places LAS at #2 on the list.

What a joke.

As cool as the desert casinos look, especially at night, the only #2 ranking LAS could get in terms of 'scenic approaches' IMHO is possibly the #2 most scenic desert / wasteland approach  

SYD should be on that list.

If Kai Tak was still in operation add Kai Tak.

As for SXM... As cool as the place is... Is the approach over the water that special???

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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 3:14 am

Quoting 747megatop (Reply 20):
What's scenic about flying over empty desert and then over a concrete jungle with more than average neon lights per square foot than any where else in the world perhaps?

Exactly what you just described.
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 3:26 am

SEA in the summertime is amazing on both sides of the aircraft. On the left you see Mount Rainier
and Mount St. Helens and Mount Adams and on the right if you land to the south you see downtown, the entire
Puget sound.

SFO also is great. Coming in over San Jose across the Bay and skimming the water until landing.

LAS is ok, but let's be real....
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 4:00 am

Quoting texdravid (Reply 38):
SEA in the summertime is amazing on both sides of the aircraft. On the left you see Mount Rainierand Mount St. Helens and Mount Adams and on the right if you land to the south you see downtown, the entire Puget sound.SFO also is great. Coming in over San Jose across the Bay and skimming the water until landing.LAS is ok, but let's be real....

SEA and PDX both have great views. I'm fortunate to call SEA home and so get to see it often.
 
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Wed May 13, 2015 4:24 am

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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 4:28 am

Cusco in Peru is right up there with ZQN I think.
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 6:19 am

Quoting continental004 (Reply 33):
Also HNL, if approaching from the west flying over all the islands.

Or a most HI airports for that matter... can't beat the oceans and the mountains...
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 7:04 am

There are still some unknown great approaches... I recently flew into LZO (Luzhou) in Sichuan province, China. Great approach. It's a tiny airport right next to the Yangzi river, so you pass the Yangzi's great river bends several times. On final approach, you fly through the river valley, then there's a temple with a huge golden dragon right next to you, and at the end, the fields and houses go up all the way to the runway, so you wonder whether you'll land on some farmer's lunch table. Great fun, and entirely unexpected.
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 9:04 am

Quoting FlightShadow (Thread starter):
CNN just released a Top Ten Airport Approaches list. While this list does contain some impressive approaches lesser-known to the general public, the highly-suspect list ignores Alaska, Hawaii, and Switzerland entirely--but places LAS at #2 on the list. That's pretty high for my blood.

They can ONLY mean LAS at night, correct? Because otherwise I'd rather keep the window shade down, it's brown, often times polluted & sprawled out like a body dropped off the top of the new Freedom Tower.

LAS paid off someone to put that out there, or the person who wrote this list went to LAS for a weekend & they got something on him, that's the only two ways LAS made #2, I am being sarcastic of course, for those that missed that.

LAS, you're an amazing place (Lot's of very fond memories & unreal adventures we have shared) & the world would surely be a dimmer place without you, but much like the women that cruise the lounges downtown, daylight pretty you ain't.

From dusk until dawn is the time you shine, it is then, and only then, you are awash with so much color that the imperfections are covered up & the facade is at it's apex, again, much like the aged lounge lizard man trappers.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 1):
SFO and SEA on sunny days are great.

Agreed, both beautiful parts of the world. PDX, IMHO, is up there as well, maybe the best approach in the state.

The West & Pacific Northwest in particular have a lot of scenic beauty & when you add in airplanes somehow & I'm immediately hooked.

I climbed Mt Hood as a teenager (many years ago, when I was a much younger man) I started to fall behind watching the planes heading out of PDX heading east. I could see the people in the windows of a particular UA DC-10 that flew close to the mountain that beautiful day, I always wondered what that looked like until a few years later, when I took off on a UA 747 heading to ORD & we got the same treatment (A close by of Mt Hood) it was then I wondered what our beautiful 747 looked like to those people I saw walking the same ridge we did. Pretty from both perspectives.

Quoting spinkid (Reply 7):

Flying into Vegas at night can be pretty darn cool.

Only at night, any other time it is ugly, brown & filled with huge buildings as far as they eye can see any longer. Time back in the late 70's & early 80's when flying into LAS was still a rather small spectacle vs the Watt busting, Eye straining Grand Spectacle that it is today.

I guess the whole Dam & Hydro Power for Las Vegas isn't working out? I know the Colorado continues to disappear, if water disappears at the current rate, how is Las Vegas going to meet the Power & Water needs of it's future?

It makes me wonder (much like California with water now) When is Las Vegas going to be required to consume less of everything that can't be produced fast enough to meet demand?

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 8):
This stuff is all subjective;
Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 14):
There's like 100,000 airports in the world...why would it shock anyone that their "vote" wouldn't have made the list?

   Roger that ... I think PDX has an amazing approach as you fly just above the Columbia River all the way in, coming either way. The short runway (which I've landed on only twice) you cross the river at the last minute, it is very subjective.

I also think when you've rounded the most S.E. corner of O'ahu & the next thing you know Waikiki is on your right, you pass Honolulu, the airport turn back over Barbers Point & head back Eastward into HNL is one of the best approaches & taking off day or night, is always a treat (If you're on the left side of the plane) out of HNL.
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 9:29 am

I also had some remarkable approaches in Micronesia.

LAS seems kind of gray from the air to me, but of course fun to see when you know the place.
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 10:40 am

YTZ better than YVR ? Not by a long shot, sorry...
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 10:41 am

Who made that list? A blind person?
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 11:42 am

IXL in Jammu and Kashmir, India, without doubt was the most breathtaking approach I've ever done. Definitely more amazing than the ZQN approach which is still amazing in its own right. I guess we all have differing opinions but I could name many approaches that put the airports in this list to shame.
 
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RE: CNN: LAS Is World's 2nd-most Scenic Approach

Wed May 13, 2015 1:35 pm

Quoting Flighty (Reply 1):
SFO and SEA on sunny days are great. LAS is a vast wasteland. LGA has probably the best views I have ever seen, holding circling and crossing Manhattan at 2000'. DCA southbond approach or northbound departure gives a great view of the nation's capital in the spring and summer.

Uhh.... my hometown definitely deserves the 2nd spot. Depending on your approach, you get to see the wonderful Strip and Downtown, all the traffic on I-15, Lake Mead, Mt Charleston (especially winter months) and at night, you can't beat the lights of the city.

I like CDG, as well. SAN is nice, too (Coronado bridge, 32nd Street Naval Station, Balboa Park, I-5/I-805) But Vegas, (and I'm not being a homer) is definitely up there and very memorable. In fact, whenever I fly home I never see so many people desperately trying to see out the aircraft to see the city.

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