|Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 84):|
As mentioned before, I don't expect A359's and 787-10's to be similarly configured. For long-haul routes many A359's will probably have a higher ratio premium seats. Typical CASM vs RASM.
Presumably though, an airline choosing between the two are going to look at them with similar layouts though. I don't think with EK
(or any airlines) it is a choice between aircraft A with a premium layout vs. aircraft B with a less premium layout for the same role when it comes to deciding which one to take. It is aircraft A and aircraft B in a comparable layout, although I'm sure they compare many different layouts to find the optimal choice.
|Quoting zeke (Reply 94):|
Which is exactly the point I have been making about the 787-10, if an airline is not going to use ALL of the additional capability of the 787-10, then the A350-900 is a good contender, and if they need ALL of the additional capability of the 787-10, then the A350-1000 will provide for growth.
How come EK
possibly operating 787-10s at 80% load factors is such a bad thing, and must mean they should choose the slightly smaller A359? According to Tim Clark their A380 seat factor is 82.5%, which obviously must mean they are not using ALL
of the additional capability and they should go for a smaller plane. To be consistent, you should be arguing that EK
should dump all their A380 orders and just order 777s. After all the 778 should have a sufficient number of seats and the 779 will provide for growth. Boeing also offers a solution if EK finds the 787-10 seating capacity to be too large. They call it the 787-9; it is not that much smaller than an A359 and Boeing would be perfectly happy to sell it to EK.
But I suspect if the A359 and 787-10 sizes were reversed you suddenly wouldn't have an issue if EK
was only filling the A359 80% in a regional role (plenty of room for future growth without having to buy and replace with new aircraft I'm sure would be your argument)...
I mean do you realize how ridiculous your argument is? You are saying:
-100% full A359 good
-80% full 787-10 bad
-100% full 787-10 bad
-80% full A350-1000 good.
and I'm guessing 100% full 787-9 would be considered bad. Oh, and 80% full A380 is good too.
Zeke, just come out and say it. You want EK to select the A350, because you want them to select Airbus.
There is no shame in admitting you have a bias, everyone here is biased to some degree. The comical lengths you are going to try and justify your opinion just makes it worse, especially when it is already clear to most users here.[Edited 2015-05-20 11:11:37]
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