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Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 2:03 am

EAL flew their first revenue flight today!

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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 2:18 am

Did their 737-800 get impounded by the Cuban military authorities yet??
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 2:23 am

Sadly, the real Eastern went bust in January 1991 -- before many valuable contributors on here were born. If this Eastern had named itself something else would anybody care? Assuming "Pink Seats" and "PTV AVOD" weren't in the name, of course...
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 2:32 am

congratulations, Eastern           
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 3:34 am

Quoting compensateme (Reply 2):
Sadly, the real Eastern went bust in January 1991

True to an extent, but consider the fact that the estate of the original Eastern not only refused other offers to buy their intellectual property so they could sell to the Ed Weigel "Eastern Air Lines Group" but it also holds a small ownership position in EALG as well.

So as far as I'm concerned, there's plenty of "original Eastern" that survives in this new entity.
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 3:51 am

Here is the link to the article in the Miami Herald.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article22561377.html
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 4:37 am

From that same article a rather interesting quote...

"In the near term, a second 145-seat aircraft is scheduled for delivery next month and will go into service July 1 flying for a “major scheduled airline” still to be announced into the Caribbean from New York and Miami. A third plane comes online in August."
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 4:37 am

Good article, very positive. I think the new Eastern Airlines has a chance, however it will not be easy. I hope they hire people with very innovative ideas.
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 5:48 am

Also liked the article and wish them all the best. It would appear they have their collective heads screwed on right and tight. Time will tell...fingers crossed.

Now if just another of my favourite defunct airline could start up and be done properly I'd be in heaven...  
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 4:32 pm

I'll bet there are enough x-Eastern folks around who would love book a seat somewhere. I'd like to see some pictures of the interiors. I'd also like to see the number wheelchairs and walkers at the gate. LOLOLO
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 4:37 pm

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 4):
but it also holds a small ownership position in EALG as well.

I want to make sure understanding this correctly....the old Eastern owns a small portion of new Eastern?
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 5:26 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 10):
I want to make sure understanding this correctly....the old Eastern owns a small portion of new Eastern?

From the Miami Herald linked article:

"The new airline is not affiliated with the original carrier but acquired its intellectual property; shareholders from the old airline also received rights to buy a stake in the new company."

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Sad to say that many of our forum members have shot down this new Eastern already and have maintained this attitude to this day despite the fact that others on our forum have noted that this effort has moved step by step in a careful and methodical approach. It should be noted that Eastern acquired its own aircraft and gradually will get more. At the same time there was never this level of criticism when People Express hit the pavement having to rely on another airline's aircraft and flopped almost immediately. I think the critics of this new Eastern should take a step back and just observe for a while.

From the Miami Herald linked article:

"Unlike other old names such as Pan Am and Braniff that have been brought back to life only to fail again, Sloan said the new Eastern appears to be ramping up in a smart way.

“They’re going to get their operations straight, generate revenue on charters before venturing to scheduled service,” Sloan said. “That, to me, is encouraging that they’re not leaping with both feet in. Virtually everyone else who has resurrected a name has failed at it. They’ve all done it completely differently than Eastern is.”
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 5:48 pm

Glad to see EA back in the air "for real" finally!!
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 6:01 pm

It was spotted in SDQ as well as per twitter. Are these all charter flights or scheduled as well? I hope to see it in CUR one day  


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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 8:15 pm

Welcome back Eastern!  
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 8:25 pm

Congrats to them  . Anyone know if they offer full service to their passengers?
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 8:36 pm

Quoting Yukon880 (Reply 6):
"In the near term, a second 145-seat aircraft is scheduled for delivery next month and will go into service July 1 flying for a “major scheduled airline” still to be announced into the Caribbean from New York and Miami. A third plane comes online in August."

I'm wondering who this "major scheduled airline" is as well.

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 11):
Sad to say that many of our forum members have shot down this new Eastern already and have maintained this attitude

That's what happens here all the time unfortunately.
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 8:38 pm

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 11):
At the same time there was never this level of criticism when People Express hit the pavement having to rely on another airline's aircraft and flopped almost immediately.

Yes there was. Every PEX thread was 98% ridicule.
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 8:50 pm

A redux of "The wings of Man". Welcome back, Eastern. You'll need to earn your wings everyday.

LOW level flyby of the company's 738. Very cool clip.
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 9:00 pm

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 11):
At the same time there was never this level of criticism when People Express hit the pavement having to rely on another airline's aircraft and flopped almost immediately.

Are you kidding? For every one delusional ("positive") post on PE there were ten that ridiculed the operation.

In this industry, one has to default to the assumption that any new operation isn't going to make it anywhere.
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 9:13 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 16):
I'm wondering who this "major scheduled airline" is as well.

Didn't they announce some partnership with Surinam Airlines in the past? This would make some sense for the NY - Caribbean flights, especially since the 737-400 does not have the legs to do these flights.
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 9:15 pm

Congrats to them      



I still wish they had bought A320s, instead of 737, because the original Eastern, had A300s, so it would have been cool, to see them with the smaller narrow body sibling. Also, I was happy, that the old EA, did not have 737s, so now I have to deal with the EA livery, on a 737.       Well, it is their airline, and they can do what they want with it.
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 10:32 pm

Quoting eastalt (Reply 7):
Good article, very positive. I think the new Eastern Airlines has a chance, however it will not be easy. I hope they hire people with very innovative ideas.

Lots of capital, great leadership, and an actual plan for the future. I think they should do just fine.
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 11:10 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 10):
I want to make sure understanding this correctly....the old Eastern owns a small portion of new Eastern?

Yes, and that comes directly from EALG CEO Ed Weigel.
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Fri May 29, 2015 11:28 pm

The number 1 to the sun is back, and although I hardly knew about EA when they originally folded, I'm also confident about them doing well in the future. I don't think this is the relaunch of PA all over again.

Good luck and all the best to the people who make the new EA.
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Sat May 30, 2015 12:03 am

Quoting lesfalls (Reply 15):
Congrats to them  . Anyone know if they offer full service to their passengers?

They are intending to operate as a Full Service type carrier, with a slightly higher quality of service than the Legacies. Their aircraft are being configured for First Class (U.S. Domestic style) and Coach. I'm not sure how their charter flights are sold, however.
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Sat May 30, 2015 12:41 am

Congratulations to Eastern. Awesome to see the ol' hockey stick livery fly again! They should have put the old Whisperliner or Whisperjet on the engine nacelles. It looks like they may be well placed to take advantage of the recently thawed relations between the US and Cuba.
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Sat May 30, 2015 7:08 am

They're not even listed on MIA's airport website under "Flight Info" (click "Airline Directory"). Weird. Also under "Flight Info" (click on "Flight Arrivals/Departures real time") their code is EE. You can see it by clicking on "All Airlines" drop down menu. Do they not use EA?
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Sat May 30, 2015 8:22 am

Quoting PMUA787 (Reply 26):
Congratulations to Eastern. Awesome to see the ol' hockey stick livery fly again! They should have put the old Whisperliner or Whisperjet on the engine nacelles. It looks like they may be well placed to take advantage of the recently thawed relations between the US and Cuba.

The Whisperjet is the 727 and the Whisperliner then L-1011. That being said, if they were to buy a 777-9x somewhere down the line, they could call it the Whispercruiser.  
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Sat May 30, 2015 2:02 pm

Quoting a318 (Reply 20):
Didn't they announce some partnership with Surinam Airlines in the past? This would make some sense for the NY - Caribbean flights, especially since the 737-400 does not have the legs to do these flights.

Surinam Airways is hardly a big airline so it won't be them or that partnership. They operate the 737-300 and not the -400. The 737-300 does have the legs to operate some flights from NY to the Caribbean as Avensa used to fly the 737-300 from JFK to CCS at the time they still existed so it's doable but probably weight restricted.

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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Sat May 30, 2015 5:53 pm

They're back! 'New' Eastern Air Lines makes first revenue flight

http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...kes-first-revenue-flight/28147455/
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Sat May 30, 2015 7:49 pm

Quoting pdx (Reply 27):
Also under "Flight Info" (click on "Flight Arrivals/Departures real time") their code is EE. You can see it by clicking on "All Airlines" drop down menu. Do they not use EA?

AFAIK it has been said that they do use EE, but looking at Flightradar24, having searched movements for their own aircraft, they use as IATA code EA.
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Sun May 31, 2015 12:09 am

IATA themselves show "Eastern Airlines Inc" as using EE. IATA do show EA as not being assigned, but it might not be ready for re-assignment yet.
 
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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Sun May 31, 2015 1:40 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 28):
The Whisperjet is the 727 and the Whisperliner then L-1011.

Eastern DC-9s were also branded "Whisperjet" for quite a few years.


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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Sun May 31, 2015 2:06 am

If THIS iteration of the Classic EASTERN want's to stay in business for more than a few years, it needs to do ONE thing and be firm about it. Absolutely NO Unions should be allowed on property. Union greed and corruption was a major factor in their demise.

Of course, I acknowledge that Frank Lorenzo was another major factor in the equation......He shouldn't be allowed anywhere NEAR the new company either! With his massive ego, can there be any doubt that he'd love to snatch it up (again!)?

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RE: Eastern Flies First Revenue Flight

Sun May 31, 2015 6:09 am

Quoting md11sdf (Reply 34):
Of course, I acknowledge that Frank Lorenzo was another major factor in the equation......He shouldn't be allowed anywhere NEAR the new company either! With his massive ego, can there be any doubt that he'd love to snatch it up (again!)?

Isn't Frank Lorenzo permanently banned from running an airline anyway (at least in the US)?
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