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AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 12:09 am

No official word yet, but the flight is not bookable after June 21st. Looks like the side effects of the Brazilian economic crisis and the decrease in energy investments by Petrobras due to low oil prices and its internal corruption scandal are starting to take a toll.

Could Caracas be next? The MEX-CCS run has been demonstrating abysmal results since January of this year. Latin American is still AM's gold mine and responsible for most of the profits of the company.


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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 12:11 am

What Aircraft is this route on currently?
Wonder if it will return for the olympics in 2018
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Sun May 31, 2015 12:15 am

 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 12:21 am

Quoting Delta757MD88 (Reply 1):
Wonder if it will return for the olympics in 2018

It will be quite a shock for them when they find the Olympic village dismantled...
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 12:54 am

Quoting Delta757MD88 (Reply 1):
Wonder if it will return for the olympics in 2018

2016.
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 1:03 am

That's weird. The loads of the GIG flight are somewhat similar to the GRU service. AM took a very long time to start the service and is pulling out so quickly? They even announced that GIG would get 788 service form OCT15.

Below some data regarding loads and cargo.

JAN 2015

GIGMEX - 87.24% - 39,874kg (cargo)
MEXGIG - 84.29% - 58,091kg (cargo)

GRUMEX - 86.52% - 235,040kg (cargo)
MEXGRU - 90.42% - 222,512kg (cargo)

FEB 2015

GIGMEX - 83.22% - 30,938kg (cargo)
MEXGIG - 90.73% - 79,496kg (cargo)

GRUMEX - 70.23% - 489,424kg (cargo)
MEXGRU - 83.18% - 281,393kg (cargo)


MAR 2015

GIGMEX - 67.84% - 174,010kg (cargo)
MEXGIG - 73.59% - 80,063kg (cargo)

GRUMEX - 66.08% - 525,001kg (cargo)
MEXGRU - 73.90% - 307,302kg (cargo)

APR 2014

GIGMEX - 79.08% - 184,595kg (cargo)
MEXGIG - 59.77% - 67,366kg (cargo)

GRUMEX - 75.02% - 428,522kg (cargo)
MEXGRU - 63.20% - 354,298kg (cargo)

Source: Brazilian Regulator (ANAC)
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 1:13 am

AM MEX-GIG has been lately operating as 4x weekly which is not the best picture for a very profitable run.
The route just began in June 2014.

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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 1:28 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 6):
AM MEX-GIG has been lately operating as 4x weekly which is not the best picture for a very profitable run.
The route just began in June 2014.

The flight was never daily and like MEX-GRU, it always depended on the onward traffic to the US. Now that all the airlines in the Brazil-US market are into dumping, Aeromexico cannot compete and must retreat to a smaller operation in which they can focus on Brazil-Mexico O&D.
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 2:04 am

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 7):
The flight was never daily and like MEX-GRU, it always depended on the onward traffic to the US.

MEX-GRU does not depend on onward traffic to the U.S. Until last year it was AM's most profitable widebody flight due to the high demand of business traffic.

I flew MEX-GIG late last year and it was flying close to 90% LF both ways. The majority of the passenger were all fun and rowdy Brazilians headed to MEX on tourism or business. There were only perhaps about 30 Mexican nationals flying on the flights.

The Brazilian real has lost a quarter of its value just this year alone. It has become increasingly unaffordable for Brazilians to travel abroad as they did until very recently. Other airlines are also changing their plans including COPA which has slashed many of its flights to its Brazilian destinations.

Perhaps it may be a combination of things. Although the flight has registered pretty good load factors, its business class cabin may be selling poorly and AM is known to axe long range destinations if Clase Premier does not perform as expected. AM is also retiring their 762s and they may not have enough long-range aircraft at the moment to spare.

A pic of the AM 762 at GIG resting after it flew us on a 9.5 hrs journey from MEX.

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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 2:15 am

Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 8):
MEX-GRU does not depend on onward traffic to the U.S. Until last year it was AM's most profitable widebody flight due to the high demand of business traffic.

AM has been known for years for offering great deals to the US.
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 5:32 am

Seems like everyone is dropping GIG these days....who will be left?
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 6:00 am

Quoting continental004 (Reply 10):

I see an opening for either Azul or O6 to really establish themselves at Rio now that LAN has decided they want random hubs all over the place instead of the #2 city
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 2:33 pm

Quoting continental004 (Reply 10):
Seems like everyone is dropping GIG these days....who will be left?

Just out of curiosity, who is everyone?
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 2:36 pm

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 7):
Now that all the airlines in the Brazil-US market are into dumping,

Would care to explain that assertion? Routes and frequencies are still restricted between the U.S. and Brazil, are they not, with some U.S. allowances even unused?
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 2:49 pm

Quoting MIflyer12 (Reply 13):
Would care to explain that assertion? Routes and frequencies are still restricted between the U.S. and Brazil, are they not, with some U.S. allowances even unused?

The Brazil-US demand has shrunk tremendously because of the BRL devaluation. Airlines are trying to compensate by offering lower fares, but what is being seen is definitely not compatible with profitability. Brazilian airlines are even increasing service. There is no way we are not seeing dumping practices even though it is difficult to apply the expression to aviation.
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 3:26 pm

Quoting continental004 (Reply 10):
Seems like everyone is dropping GIG these days....who will be left?

I cannot vouch for "everyone", and that is unlikely. But Copa is trimming its Brazil network, including a few of the GIG frequencies, plus BSB and VCP.

A big component of Copa's business in Brazil is leisure traffic to the US. Copa is double-hurt by recession and the price war. No reason to stop in PTY when US and Brazilian airlines have such low fares.
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Sun May 31, 2015 4:09 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if CCS gets discontinued or heavily diminished. Is it still daily service? It may go down to 4 times a week or less like some US carriers
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:08 am

I just flew AM in Clase Premier from MEX-GIG last Monday. Loads in Y were >90% I'd say and in C around 65%. Most of the passengers were Brazilian, of which a number of them, like myself, were connecting from the US (on my Vegas-MEX flight I think there were around 10 who connected to the GIG flight).
I'm shocked to hear they are pulling out... especially since mention is made in the in-flight magazine this month of GIG being the next 787 destination!
This being said, I thought the service and the aircraft was LOUSY. An old B762 (XA-JBC in Skyteam colors). The toilet in C class didn't work - it was actually locked during the whole flight so C passengers had to walk to the back of the plane where there usually was a line.
No individual video screens, tight angle-flat seats, no menus distributed, no champagne offered, food was not very good at all, and the J seats were dirty... And the flight was 3-hours delayed leaving MEX at 3.30am instead of 12.50!!!
The LAS-MEX flight was great (except the catering) in a B738... very comfortable Premier seats with individual video screens (quite a selection) and small foot rests. French champagne was offered on this flight.
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:38 am

Quoting TYCOON (Reply 17):
The toilet in C class didn't work - it was actually locked during the whole flight so C passengers had to walk to the back of the plane where there usually was a line.

Honestly for those who pay the premium to be up front, this is inexcusable, IMO. I'd be an unhappy & reimbursed paying passenger. Sorry that happened to you, really shoddy IMO.
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Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:30 pm

Yes, looks like a goner. I made a search for random dates in September of this year and all options have you flying via GRU with the connection served by JJ. It is a pity. This seemed like a flight with a lot of potential. I am having a hard time believing it lasted so little; was actually looking forward to taking this flight once it went 788.  
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:55 pm

Today Aeromexico stated that "the cancellation happened, among other reasons, due to the company's fleet renewal".

Sad. Hope AM comes back with the 788 in the near future.
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:03 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 18):
Honestly for those who pay the premium to be up front, this is inexcusable, IMO. I'd be an unhappy & reimbursed paying passenger. Sorry that happened to you, really shoddy IMO.

Not clear to me why someone expecting premium service whose destination is not in Mexico would buy it from AeroMexico.
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Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:32 am

I just returned from GIG today on United. GIG to IAH to EWR. The 777 from GIG was about 80% full in BF and economy looked full. I went on UA's website for my next trip and I was SHOCKED to see Business fares, refundable, at about $3000!

And that's on the new 787 service. Also, United now sells tickets from EWR to GRU, then connecting on TAM to Santos Dumont. Which I will certainly do, I love getting into SDU! And the prices were again absurdly low.

This past week I took $R500, and it showed up in my Chase account at $157. Crazy. Invest in Brazil now! She will bounce back, Brazil always does!
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:29 am

Quoting TYCOON (Reply 17):
This being said, I thought the service and the aircraft was LOUSY.

That´s the problem with AM. They are very inconsistent. Too bad. I thought given my experiences all through last year that they had managed to control that. Seems they have not. What a shame.
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:36 am

Looks like the only LatAm country left with multiple AM destinations out of Mexico will be Colombia with BOG and MDE, what a shame for GIG but I'm sure AM will be back after getting their fleet issues resolved....
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:11 am

I don't understand this... you invest a lot of money to open a new station and now you close it!

If the fleet renewal is the reason... then i) The Boeing 767 is leaving ASAP and ii) The 787's are too tight and not enough and the 7th and 8th will be delayed or something like that.

I want to cry!!!

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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:08 am

Quoting AF086 (Reply 5):
That's weird. The loads of the GIG flight are somewhat similar to the GRU service. AM took a very long time to start the service and is pulling out so quickly? They even announced that GIG would get 788 service form OCT15.

Yay for the loads although yields must have been not that great. For a few months I've done random searches and at some point I was getting GDL-GIG via MEX for as low as $9,000.00 MXN (or some 599usd). I wish I would've taken the deal.

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 18):
Honestly for those who pay the premium to be up front, this is inexcusable, IMO. I'd be an unhappy & reimbursed paying passenger. Sorry that happened to you, really shoddy IMO.

If you are lucky to fly AM with a newer frame then service improves. However, the older planes do have an impact on the quality of service with this airilne. I don't know if it's still flying but quite often AM savvy flyers would pray to not get XA-TOJ (To-jodido or all fu**ed up plane), an old 762.
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:22 am

TOJodido was retired when hitting the ground on a tail strike about two years ago at MAD running a MAD-MEX operation.

AM needs to retire all 767 ASAP... they still have 3 when they're getting only 2 Boeing 787's. Maybe this is the reason.

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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:37 am

Quoting VC10er (Reply 22):
I just returned from GIG today on United. GIG to IAH to EWR. The 777 from GIG was about 80% full in BF and economy looked full. I went on UA's website for my next trip and I was SHOCKED to see Business fares, refundable, at about $3000!

I´ve said this before. I got a GRU-JKF-LAX, and then SFO-DFW-GRU in J on the new 773 and flying on the full flat seats on the 321 (AA flight #1!) for about 2000USD! And that´s in July, high season.
 
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Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:39 am

Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 28):

Perhaps we should buy a couple tickets at refundable $2,500/$3,000, now and use them before they go up to $7000.

As for AM, I've flown them just a few times. I was in F, (737) and found the service and food to be excellent! What AC do they use for GIG? I know GRU is a 777, correct? I never flew them long haul.
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:19 pm

I just booked US-GIG, return GRU-US for USD $537 inc tax ... And that's a nonstop flight. The fare war is real.
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:38 pm

Quoting jetblue1965 (Reply 30):

I just booked US-GIG, return GRU-US for USD $537 inc tax ... And that's a nonstop flight. The fare war is real.

Where are you flying from, if you don't mind me asking?
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:53 pm

Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 28):
I´ve said this before. I got a GRU-JKF-LAX, and then SFO-DFW-GRU in J on the new 773 and flying on the full flat seats on the 321 (AA flight #1!) for about 2000USD! And that´s in July, high season.

High season for who? Actually, that is high season in the USA, but not in Brazil or Argentina. The other thing is that usually, flights from Brazil and Argentina have more Southamericans flying to the USA than Americans flying to South America. As an example, all Brazilians shopping here in Florida. And, considering the situation with Brazil's economy, visa requisite for US and its currency, I guess now there is overcapacity on USA-Brazil (including Azul opening routes).

So your fare has to be an indicative that the market has tons of supply and not that much demand now.
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:39 pm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 23):
That´s the problem with AM. They are very inconsistent. Too bad. I thought given my experiences all through last year that they had managed to control that. Seems they have not. What a shame.

I have noticed a very substantial increase in their service levels during the past months. They are not and will never be SQ, but I have mostly good reviews from my most recent flights. Flight attendants are corteous, helpful and many times smiley. This goes very well with the incredibly nice 738s with Boeing Sky interior, AVOD IFE and scimitar winglets (and with the Dreamliners too of course). I was recenly talking about this with an AM first officer who's a friend of mine, and he mentioned that AM is striving to show to its customers that it has friendly and service-oriented personnel and improved catering.

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 25):
i) The Boeing 767 is leaving ASAP and ii) The 787's are too tight and not enough and the 7th and 8th will be delayed or something like that.

I believe the seventh 787 is already with AM and flying regularly, isn't it?

Quoting fernanlnin (Reply 26):
If you are lucky to fly AM with a newer frame then service improves. However, the older planes do have an impact on the quality of service with this airilne. I don't know if it's still flying but quite often AM savvy flyers would pray to not get XA-TOJ (To-jodido or all fu**ed up plane), an old 762.

This is disgraceful. If you offer your customers an old plane with no IFE, the least you could do is up the game with better service. I wonder if not only 767 frames are leaving but also the crews... See, I would not mind flying AM to GIG instead of JJ, LA, AV, etc. because the nonstop factor is always very important when time is a precious commodity, and because it would be nice to do one last trip with no AVOD PTVs in a really nice bird that is about to get extinct. Think of it as an opportunity to bid farewell to the 762. However if the service is going to be dismal, with broken lavatories, no booze, rude crews, etc., then obviously LA, JJ, AV, etc. one-stop is the clear way to go. AM needs to understand and solve this ASAP.

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 27):
they still have 3 when they're getting only 2 Boeing 787's. Maybe this is the reason.

Makes sense. Perhaps AM wants to get rid of the 767s ASAP and that means no room for a long-haul route with bad performance. Hopefully this means EZE gets upgraded to all-787 service. I also join those who have mentioned that hopefully GIG will be reinstated in the future once AM has more Dreamliners and once the Brazilian economy rebounds.
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:09 pm

Quoting continental004 (Reply 31):

JFK-GIG, GRU-JFK, TAM, Nov'15

TAM $537 vs UA $703... can't exactly justify UA in this case, esp since JJ is nonstop both ways
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:53 am

Quoting skyone (Reply 32):
High season for who? Actually, that is high season in the USA, but not in Brazil or Argentina. The other thing is that usually, flights from Brazil and Argentina have more Southamericans flying to the USA than Americans flying to South America.

July, especially the second half is EXTREMELY high season as Brazilian schools have a two to three-week winter break and the window of opportunity to travel is narrow, unlike the (southern) summer when travel is spread through December, January and February.

On top of that, if you factor in the summer weather in the Northern Hemisphere and the fact that many Brazilians are used to tropical conditions and somewhat reluctant to face the freezing (especially in the northeast of the USA) temperatures of the Northern winter, you have the perfect ingredients for what is, usually, a very, very busy travel period.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:47 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 33):
This is disgraceful. If you offer your customers an old plane with no IFE, the least you could do is up the game with better service. I wonder if not only 767 frames are leaving but also the crews... See, I would not mind flying AM to GIG instead of JJ, LA, AV, etc. because the nonstop factor is always very important when time is a precious commodity, and because it would be nice to do one last trip with no AVOD PTVs in a really nice bird that is about to get extinct. Think of it as an opportunity to bid farewell to the 762. However if the service is going to be dismal, with broken lavatories, no booze, rude crews, etc., then obviously LA, JJ, AV, etc. one-stop is the clear way to go. AM needs to understand and solve this ASAP.

True. It seems, as many others have pointed out, that service consistency is one of the major challenges faced by AM.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:10 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 29):
Perhaps we should buy a couple tickets at refundable $2,500/$3,000, now and use them before they go up to $7000.

Is anybody seeing refundable fares for these prices? I just booked some US$2450 GIG-NYC returns in Business on AA, but they are non-refundable fares (refundable tickets are several thousand more ($8000 or so), and non-changable except for flights the same day (and this is the only non-stop of the day, so not too helpful). Is anybody finding these fares available on a refundable/flexible basis?

It does seem that AA has not matched TAM's Economy fares, which are running more than $200 cheaper r/t.
 
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RE: AeroMexico Dropping MEX-GIG

Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:40 pm

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 33):
AM is striving to show to its customers that it has friendly and service-oriented personnel and improved catering.

And they're I believe going in the right way! Except for some long routes in an Embraer 145 they used to have. Fortunately, that is changing and swapping to an all E170/175/190 fleet.

I've flown them a lot recently and by far, AM is doing a great job! Except for their 767's and I've started hearing stories on the 777 that the IFE is broken. But the new 738s as well the 787's AM is really giving a great service on board!

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 33):
I believe the seventh 787 is already with AM and flying regularly, isn't it?
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 33):
Makes sense. Perhaps AM wants to get rid of the 767s ASAP and that means no room for a long-haul route with bad performance. Hopefully this means EZE gets upgraded to all-787 service. I also join those who have mentioned that hopefully GIG will be reinstated in the future once AM has more Dreamliners and once the Brazilian economy rebounds.

True, my bad! The 8th seems it's late, which btw, it's in final assembly., the 9th will get also this year, but there will be no 10th in 2015, and 2 787s are coming and 3 767s are going. So... hopefully AM can reinstate GIG ASAP.

BCN never returned and also FCO is still pending. I think Spain's economy is getting back... and BCN would be great to see it back anytime before a new adventure. AM needs more 787's!

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Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:10 pm

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 38):
long routes in an Embraer 145 they used to have. Fortunately, that is changing and swapping to an all E170/175/190 fleet.

I agree. I don't mind the ERJ-145 for one-hour flights... maybe 1.5 hours, but anything longer than that is torture. I remember I once flew UA YYZ-IAH (well, it was CO back then) and they used an ERJ-145. Load was 100%. It was terrible. The E-170s are however pretty comfortable. I love the Embraer 170s and 190s.

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 38):
I've started hearing stories on the 777 that the IFE is broken.

That is terrible. The ones with the broken IFE are the ex-RG ones? The 77Es are not going anywhere until the 789s start arriving, so AM should overhaul them and have them in very good shape. Plus, they are really nice and comfortable aircraft, albeit noisy.

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 38):
The 8th seems it's late, which btw, it's in final assembly., the 9th will get also this year, but there will be no 10th in 2015,

So, is AM going to have altogether nine 788s and ten 799s??? Dunno if additional orders have been placed.

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 38):
BCN never returned and also FCO is still pending. I think Spain's economy is getting back... and BCN would be great to see it back anytime before a new adventure. AM needs more 787's!

I think GIG and BCN should have a place in AM's route map in the future. As for FCO, it seems that now that AZ will launch FCO-MEX in 2016, AM could simply choose to codeshare with AZ. Don't see the reason for two airlines serving this low-yielding route when they could work together. That said, you are probably right that AM needs more Dreamliners. AM could send 2 daily 788s and 1 daily 738 to JFK, and perhaps in the future BOG and LIM could also warrant Dreamliner service. I heard however that AM was not going to order more Dreamliners.
Upcoming flights:
May: AM MEX-CUN 73H (Y), AM CUN-MEX 73W (Y).
August: KL MEX-AMS 74M (J), KQ AMS-NBO 788 (J).

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