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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:54 pm

I don't know if anyone has the app, but Turkish Airlines are currently doing a live broadcast on the 'periscope' app. Looks like it's following a group of three pilots during their preparation for a flight. You need to follow TK on twitter and download Periscope.  
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:45 pm

Turkey has re-negotiated the air service agreement with the Phillipines. TK will go Daily from thrice weekly and 14 other flights to/from any other points in Turkey to any other destination there. 3 weekly cargo frequency maintained. So normal negotiations as you read from Turkish CAA website at www.shgm.gov.tr
The big news to me is Turkey granted 5th freedom rights to Phillipine Airlines on the Turkey-Tel Aviv and Turkey-Frankfurt segment. Turkey does not grant 5th freedom rights over 20 years as far as I know so I guess that was the trade off for getting the daily access to MNL...QR pushed Turkisc CAA to get 5th freedom rights on ESB BEG and could not get it even though the Government had very close relations with Qatar so quite a u-turn now...

Anybody wants to comment....
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:20 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 51):
Anybody wants to comment....

Turkish 777X already posted the news.

See reply 48.

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 48):
Turkey signed a new bilateral with the Philipines.

TK will get access to other points with 14 additional frequencies, while MNL will increase to daily.
Philipines will be able to fly 5th freedom to FRA and TLV, while TK will be able choose the one later, whenever they wish.
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:28 pm

A bit off topic but I thought some of you might find this amazing:
http://www.facebook.com/3dfirstaid/videos/992779280732513/?fref=nf
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:31 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 51):
Phillipine Airlines on the Turkey-Tel Aviv

Especially to TLV, which really is one of their key markets!
So they must have really wanted to get into the market then.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:05 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 53):

wooow.....!!!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:47 pm

Looks like Onur Air Technic is now in the business of providing 3rd party services.

From notice issued:

Onur Air (Turkey) started provide Base and Line Maintenance services at Istanbul Ataturk and Antalya International Airports under EASA and/or Part 145 approval.

Besides everything else, Turkey is becoming a growing global MRO market.

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 54):
Especially to TLV, which really is one of their key markets!
So they must have really wanted to get into the market then.

No big deal. Does anyone even think PAL will use these authorities and even if they did they would have much an effect on the market?
Countries have tons of authorities which are never utilized. Look at US carriers and their massive list of beyond authorities in Europe which are never used any more.
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:12 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 49):

AFAIK, Turkey & Mauritius have to sign a bilateral agreement, since they don't have one.

And IIRC, Mauritius is pretty conservative in terms of doling out rights. For instance, the Mauritius - UAE agreement only covers Dubai, and is restricted to 14 weekly.

http://commissionoceanindien.org/fil...-PRESENTATION-01-05-2013-FINAL.pdf

Check slides 12 onwards.

Also, is TK planning to delink CMB from it's MLE services. Were they also considering SEZ at any point of time?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:44 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 50):
I don't know if anyone has the app, but Turkish Airlines are currently doing a live broadcast on the 'periscope' app. Looks like it's following a group of three pilots during their preparation for a flight. You need to follow TK on twitter and download Periscope.

Who cares.. I still cannot make changes to my reservations booked online. Priorities man, priorities..
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:33 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 53):

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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:38 am

Another great increase in traffic rights to Pakistan. This is the second increase after getting 7 weekly total to LHE and ISB, last year.
They increased from initially 7 KHI frequencies to an additional 14 to ISB and LHE together. Really nice increase. Will give them a boost in the UK
connecting traffic.

Now, if they could get more frequencies to India and China...



eff 08AUG15 Istanbul Ataturk – Islamabad Increase from 4 to 5 weekly
TK710 IST2020 – 0350+1ISB 332 x24
TK711 ISB0530 – 0940IST 332 x35

eff 09AUG15 Istanbul Ataturk – Lahore Increase from 3 to 7 weekly
TK714 IST2020 – 0350+1LHE 332 D
TK715 LHE0520 – 0940IST 332 D

eff 11AUG15 Istanbul Ataturk – Baku – Islamabad NEW 2 weekly service
TK740 IST1840 – 2330GYD0030+1 – 0355+1ISB 332 24
TK741 ISB0455 – 0845GYD0945 – 1055IST 332 35
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:47 am

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 48):

TK will get access to other points with 14 additional frequencies, while MNL will increase to daily.

I think every Philippine destination other than MNL is utopic. Would have preferred 14w to MNL. Let's see what happens, daily flights are important indeed. I googled a Phllippine newspaper that wrote TK would increase to daily flights with the winter schedule.

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 60):

That's also quite cool. Wonder why the route 2 flights to ISB throgh GYD. Certainly these will also become nonstop flights. Now as you say fingers crossed for China and especially India...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:09 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 61):
That's also quite cool. Wonder why the route 2 flights to ISB throgh GYD.

They have 5th freedom ISB-GYD-ISB.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:13 pm

@LAXintl

Can you post your fleet list of TK with the Seats and the aircraft code in the system?

Thank you.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:56 pm

Reg / Type / Code / MSN / Seats
TC-JDM A340-311 343 115 270
TC-JDN A340-313 340 180 270
TC-JIH A340-313 340 270 270
TC-JII A340-313 340 331 270
TC-JNA A330-203 332 697 250
TC-JNB A330-203 332 704 250
TC-JNC A330-203 332 742 250
TC-JND A330-203 332 754 250
TC-JNE A330-203 332 774 250
TC-JNF A330-203 33R 463 281
TC-JNG A330-203 33R 504 281
TC-JIL A330-203 33J 882 220
TC-JIM A330-203 33J 901 220
TC-JIN A330-203 33J 932 220
TC-JIO A330-223 33A 869 223
TC-JIP A330-223 33A 876 223
TC-JIR A330-223 33A 949 223
TC-JIS A330-223 33A 961 223
TC-JIT A330-223 33A 977 223
TC-JIV A330-223 33A 1213 223
TC-JNH A330-343 333 1150 289
TC-JNI A330-343 333 1160 289
TC-JNJ A330-343 333 1170 289
TC-JNK A330-343 333 1172 289
TC-JNL A330-343 333 1204 289
TC-JNM A330-343 333 1212 289
TC-JNN A330-343 333 1228 289
TC-JNO A330-343 333 1298 289
TC-JNP A330-343 333 1307 289
TC-JNR A330-343 333 1311 289
TC-JNS A330-303 333 1458 289
TC-JNT A330-303 333 1476 289
TC-JNZ A330-303 333 1487 289
TC-JOA A330-303 333 1501 289
TC-JOB A330-303 333 1514 289
TC-JOC A330-303 333 1522 289
TC-JOD A330-303 333 1529 289
TC-JOE A330-303 333 1571 289
TC-JOF A330-303 333 1616 289
TC-JOG A330-303 333 1620 289
TC-JOH A330-303 333 1622 289
TC-JOI A330-303 33L 1629 289
TC-JOM A330-302 33L 1499 291
TC-JDO A330-243F 33X 1004 Freighter
TC-JDP A330-243F 33Y 1092 Freighter
TC-JDR A330-243F 33Y 1344 Freighter
TC-JDS A330-243F 33Y 1418 Freighter
TC-JCI A330-243F 33Y 1442 Freighter
TC-JOU A330-243F 33Y 1550 Freighter
TC-JCZ A310-304F 31Y 480 Freighter
TC-JLM A319-132 319 2738 132
TC-JLN A319-132 319 2739 132
TC-JLO A319-132 319 2631 132
TC-JLP A319-132 319 2655 132
TC-JLR A319-132 319 3142 132
TC-JLS A319-132 316 4629 132
TC-JLT A319-132 316 4665 132
TC-JLU A319-132 316 4695 132
TC-JLV A319-132 316 4755 132
TC-JLY A319-132 316 4774 132
TC-JLZ A319-132 316 4790 132
TC-JUA A319-132 31H 2404 132
TC-JUB A319-132 31H 2414 132
TC-JUD A319-132 31H 2452 132
TC-JLJ A320-232 32L 1856 162
TC-JPA A320-232 320 2609 159
TC-JPB A320-232 320 2626 159
TC-JPC A320-232 320 2928 159
TC-JPD A320-232 320 2934 159
TC-JPE A320-232 320 2941 159
TC-JPF A320-232 320 2984 159
TC-JPG A320-232 320 3010 159
TC-JPH A320-232 320 3185 159
TC-JPI A320-232 320 3208 159
TC-JPJ A320-232 320 3239 159
TC-JPK A320-232 320 3257 159
TC-JPL A320-232 320 3303 159
TC-JPM A320-232 320 3341 159
TC-JPN A320-232 320 3558 159
TC-JPO A320-232 320 3567 159
TC-JPP A320-232 320 3603 159
TC-JPR A320-232 320 3654 159
TC-JPS A320-232 320 3718 159
TC-JPT A320-232 320 3719 159
TC-JPU A320-214 32C 3896 150
TC-JPV A320-214 32C 3931 150
TC-JPY A320-214 32C 3949 150
TC-JAI A320-232 32G 3259 150
TC-JBI A320-232 32G 3308 150
TC-JUE A320-232 32P 2156 162
TC-JUF A320-232 32P 2164 162
TC-JUG A320-232 32P 2395 162
TC-JUI A320-232 32P 2401 162
TC-JUJ A320-232 32D 2522 150
TC-JUK A320-232 32P 2602 162
TC-JRA A321-231 321 2823 194
TC-JRB A321-231 321 2868 194
TC-JRC A321-231 321 2999 194
TC-JRD A321-231 321 3015 194
TC-JRE A321-231 321 3126 194
TC-JRF A321-231 321 3207 194
TC-JRG A321-231 321 3283 194
TC-JRH A321-231 321 3350 194
TC-JRI A321-231 321 3405 194
TC-JRJ A321-231 321 3429 194
TC-JRK A321-231 321 3525 194
TC-JRL A321-231 321 3539 194
TC-JRM A321-231 32R 4643 180
TC-JRN A321-231 32R 4654 180
TC-JRO A321-231 32R 4682 180
TC-JRP A321-231 32R 4698 180
TC-JRR A321-231 32R 4706 180
TC-JRS A321-231 32R 4761 180
TC-JRT A321-231 32R 4779 180
TC-JRU A321-231 32R 4788 180
TC-JRV A321-231 32R 5077 180
TC-JRY A321-231 32R 5083 180
TC-JRZ A321-231 32R 5118 180
TC-JSA A321-231 32R 5154 180
TC-JSB A321-231 32R 5205 180
TC-JSC A321-231 32R 5254 180
TC-JSD A321-231 32R 5388 180
TC-JSE A321-231 32R 5450 180
TC-JSF A321-231 32R 5465 180
TC-JSG A321-231 32R 5490 180
TC-JSH A321-231 32R 5546 180
TC-JSI A321-231 32R 5584 180
TC-JSJ A321-231 32R 5633 180
TC-JSK A321-231 32R 5663 180
TC-JSL A321-231 32R 5667 180
TC-JSM A321-231 32R 5689 180
TC-JSN A321-231 32M 6508 178
TC-JSO A321-231 32M 6563 178
TC-JSP A321-231 32M 6599 178
TC-JMM A321-231 32B 2916 151
TC-JMN A321-231 32B 2919 151
TC-JMH A321-231 32N 3637 178
TC-JMI A321-231 32N 3673 178
TC-JMJ A321-231 32N 3688 178
TC-JMK A321-231 32N 3738 178
TC-JML A321-231 32J 3382 194
TC-JFC B737-800W 78G 29765 165
TC-JFD B737-800W 78G 29766 165
TC-JFE B737-800W 78G 29767 165
TC-JFF B737-800W 78G 29768 165
TC-JFG B737-800W 78G 29769 165
TC-JFH B737-800W 738 29770 165
TC-JFI B737-800W 738 29771 165
TC-JFJ B737-800W 738 29772 165
TC-JFK B737-800W 738 29773 165
TC-JFL B737-800W 78G 29774 165
TC-JFM B737-800W 78G 29775 165
TC-JFN B737-800W 738 29776 165
TC-JFO B737-800W 738 29777 165
TC-JFP B737-800W 78G 29778 165
TC-JFR B737-800W 738 29779 165
TC-JFT B737-800W 738 29780 165
TC-JFU B737-800W 738 29781 165
TC-JFV B737-800W 78G 29782 165
TC-JFY B737-800W 78G 29783 165
TC-JFZ B737-800W 738 29784 165
TC-JGA B737-800W 738 29785 165
TC-JGB B737-800W 738 29786 165
TC-JGC B737-800W 738 29787 165
TC-JGD B737-800W 738 29788 165
TC-JGF B737-800W 738 29790 165
TC-JGG B737-800W 78G 34405 165
TC-JGH B737-800W 738 34406 165
TC-JGI B737-800W 738 34407 165
TC-JGJ B737-800W 738 34408 165
TC-JGK B737-800W 78G 34409 165
TC-JGL B737-800W 738 34410 165
TC-JGM B737-800W 78G 34411 165
TC-JGN B737-800W 738 34412 165
TC-JGO B737-800W 738 34413 165
TC-JGP B737-800W 738 34414 165
TC-JGR B737-800W 738 34415 165
TC-JGS B737-800W 78G 34416 165
TC-JGT B737-800W 78G 34417 165
TC-JGU B737-800W 78G 34418 165
TC-JGV B737-800W 78G 34419 165
TC-JGY B737-800WSFP 78G 35738 165
TC-JGZ B737-800WSFP 78G 35739 165
TC-JHA B737-800WSFP 738 35740 165
TC-JHB B737-800WSFP 738 35741 165
TC-JHC B737-800WSFP 738 35742 165
TC-JHD B737-800WSFP 738 35743 165
TC-JHE B737-800WSFP 738 35744 165
TC-JHF B737-800WSFP 738 35745 165
TC-JHK B737-800WSFP 78D 40975 151
TC-JHL B737-800WSFP 78D 40976 151
TC-JHM B737-800WSFP 78D 40980 151
TC-JHN B737-800WSFP 78D 40981 151
TC-JHO B737-800WSFP 78D 40987 151
TC-JHP B737-800WSFP 78D 42000 151
TC-JHR B737-800WSFP 78D 40989 151
TC-JHS B737-800WSFP 78D 40991 151
TC-JHT B737-800WSFP 78D 42001 151
TC-JHU B737-800WSFP 78D 42002 151
TC-JHV B737-800WSFP 78D 40992 151
TC-JHY B737-800WSFP 78D 42003 151
TC-JHZ B737-800WSFP 78D 42004 151
TC-JVA B737-800WSFP 78D 40988 151
TC-JVB B737-800WSFP 78D 40990 151
TC-JVC B737-800WSFP 78D 42005 151
TC-JVD B737-800WSFP 78D 42007 151
TC-JVE B737-800WSFP 78D 42006 151
TC-JVF B737-800WSFP 78D 42008 151
TC-JVG B737-800WSFP 78D 42009 151
TC-JYA B737-900ER 79B 40973 151
TC-JYB B737-900ER 79B 40974 151
TC-JYC B737-900ER 79B 40977 151
TC-JYD B737-900ER 79B 40978 151
TC-JYE B737-900ER 79B 40979 151
TC-JYF B737-900ER 79B 40982 151
TC-JYG B737-900ER 79B 40983 151
TC-JYH B737-900ER 79B 40984 151
TC-JYI B737-900ER 79B 40985 151
TC-JYJ B737-900ER 79B 40986 151
TC-JYL B737-900ER 79D 42010 169
TC-JYM B737-900ER 79D 42011 169
TC-JYN B737-900ER 79D 42012 169
TC-JYO B737-900ER 79D 42013 169
TC-JKJ B737-700W 73W 34297 124
TC-JKK B737-700W 73W 34298 124
TC-JKO B737-700W 73W 34300 124
TC-JJE B777-300ER 77C 40707 337
TC-JJF B777-300ER 77C 40708 337
TC-JJG B777-300ER 77C 40791 337
TC-JJH B777-300ER 77C 40792 337
TC-JJI B777-300ER 77C 40709 337
TC-JJJ B777-300ER 77C 40710 337
TC-JJK B777-300ER 77C 40711 337
TC-JJL B777-300ER 77C 40793 337
TC-JJM B777-300ER 77C 40794 337
TC-JJN B777-300ER 77C 40795 337
TC-JJO B777-300ER 77C 40796 337
TC-JJP B777-300ER 77C 40797 337
TC-JJR B777-300ER 77B 44116 349
TC-JJS B777-300ER 77B 44117 349
TC-JJT B777-300ER 77B 44118 349
TC-JJU B777-300ER 77B 60401 349
TC-JJV B777-300ER 77E 44119 349
TC-JJY B777-300ER 77E 44120 349
TC-JJZ B777-300ER 77E 44122 349
TC-LJA B777-300ER 77E 44121 349

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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:12 pm

Interview with Mr. Kotil in Miami at the IATA AGM.


Q. Do you see Turkish as a direct competitor of Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar? If so, how do you distinguish yourself from them?
A. Istanbul is one of the world’s biggest markets. Last year, Ataturk had more than 57 million passengers. This year, it will have 65 million. What we need is an airport to handle 150 million. This means that what we’re building is much bigger than the Middle East Three.

Q. When will the new Istanbul airport be ready?
A. October 2017 and will initially have 88 terminal gates and three runways with 3,750 meters each. In later stages, this is planned to expand to 165 gates and six runways. This will provide all the airport capacity Turkish needs to grow as we build a very massive hub in Istanbul linking Europe to Africa, Europe to Middle East, Europe to Far East. We’re doing very similar things, but we’re much better positioned relative to the Gulf region.

Q. Geographically positioned, you mean?
A. Yes, geographically. We are much closer to the bigger and wealthy markets like Europe than the others.

Q. And how does the new airport change your fleet strategy given its additional runways?
A. Our fleet strategy isn’t changing just because the new airport is coming. What’s happening is that we have lots of narrowbodies, and then we have long-haul. The long-haul machines are the 777s and A330s, which will be about 80 machines. That’s a good number. Today, our total fleet is about 280 aircraft; by the end of this year, that will be about 300. So, the current narrowbody and long-haul mix will continue.

Q. How constrained are you in your current airport? Is runway capacity a major problem now?
A. Yes, the airport is overbooked. We’re not growing there much anymore. But it’s good enough and we can make money there. We have a second network at Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen for several years. The different networks work differently. So this means we can still serve same destination airports in a healthy manner, with a number of flights per day from each airport. This creates a healthy ecosystem that produces both transit connectivity and profit.

Q. And how is Pegasus affecting you, especially domestically?
A. In domestic service, we have about 50% market share, but it’s only 14% of our revenue. It’s small because the routes are so short. Pegasus is a big player at Sabiha Gökçen, but we’ll further increase our number of frequencies very soon, so most likely we’ll outnumber them in a few years. But in the domestic market, we don’t worry too much as long as we keep 50% market share. Our real competition is international. Demand for us is very solid from any city in Turkey.

Q. Are you still having discussions with Lufthansa about a joint venture?
A. Not presently. We are good friends, though. We have the SunExpress joint venture, which is working very well and expanding. But there’s no new joint venture.

Q. What regions of the world do you still need to develop?
A. Africa. We have 44 destinations, but with very little frequency. The middle class in Africa is starting to come out, and they’re about 1.2 billion people. This is our major destination focus.

Q. Are you thinking West Africa in particular? You’ve been aggressive with your 737 utilization on relatively long missions there.
A. In West Africa, we’ve been filling our 737-900ERs very well. We call the -900ER the “Queen of Africa.” We go to many destinations throughout Africa, but yet not with high enough frequency. So we need more frequency. Most likely, we’ll triple or quadruple our Africa traffic.

Q. Is TK still considering the A380 or 747-8.
A. Actually, what we lack now are frequencies. Our number of destinations today is about 267, which makes our one of the largest networks in the world. But our number of flights per day is about 1,200. I actually need 2,000 flights. That means I need more frequency versus only plane size. Many destinations we’re doing need more flights per day.
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:36 pm

The next 3 planned Embraer frames for Borajet are

MSN 0069 - ex FlyBE
MSN 0084 - ex FlyBE
MSN 0223 - ex Nas Air

All are leased via GECAS
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:10 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 64):


TC-JOI A330-303 33L 1629 289
TC-JOM A330-302 33L 1499 291


Thank you very much, LAXintl!


TC-JOI and TC-JOM have the same Code (33L) but different number of seats.
What is the configuration of this two aircraft?

Am I right, all four A330-223 TC-JIY, TC-JIZ, TC-LNA and TC-LNB (not in the list) will have the same configuration like TC-JIV (in the list)?



[Edited 2015-06-12 11:41:43]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:58 pm

-JOI is 28C+261Y

-JOM is 28C+263Y

JOM has 2 additional seats in zone B, and its economy class row numbering is quite different.
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:47 pm

Sunexpress 2 new Boeing 737-800 (TC-SCE and TC-SEI) are on the way, flying to Keflavik at the moment.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 68):

Thank you!

[Edited 2015-06-13 10:52:43]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:36 am

It's about time!

TK To ATL Daily 77W, Starting May 2016 (by TK787 Jun 14 2015 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:57 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 70):

Cool.
So TK already serves or has announced destinations in the US that are served by at least 3 other major European carriers. Destinations served by at least 2 major European carriers and not served by TK are: DFW, DEN, DTW, EWR, MCO, PHL, SEA.
I bet on DTW and SEA as next destinations. Then they could start increasing the frequencies to their existing destinations.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:59 am

I had a great flight to LHR yesterday with one of the newest A321s of TK, TC-JSO. The aircraft had Thales AVOD system which I believe the best I've experienced so far. Hopefully, all the fleet of TK will have this system ASAP.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:39 am

Recently i flew ZRH-IST on TK and noticed that there are connecting passengers to LAX. From ZRH ! Now i checked the prices on kayak, and they have really competitive prices to catch traffic from EU to US. And despite IST being remote for those routes, total travelling time also is competitive. Incredibly, never expected that someone would fly from ZRH to LAX via IST. Enabling this new market opens new opportunities for TK.
Possibilities for increase of frequencies:

07:55 (IST) 11:45 (LAX) 13:45 (LAX) 12:35! (IST)
incoming far east (maybe difficult) and middle east flights, outgoing africa and european flights
12:55 (IST) 16:45 (LAX) 18:45 (LAX) 17:35! (IST)
current schedule
17:55 (IST) 21:45 (LAX) 23:45 (LAX) 22:35! (IST)
incoming european flights, outgoing far east and middle eastern flights
00:55 (IST) 04:45 (LAX) 06:45 (LAX) 05:35! (IST)
rather difficult
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:26 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 73):
Incredibly, never expected that someone would fly from ZRH to LAX via IST.

Same here.....
... but next month I fly JFK-IST-AMS. Why not? Price is right for S,M class, all on wide-bodies.
Very competitive pricing compared to other airlines with more direct routes, but we are talking only a few hours more flying.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:53 pm

Is TK expected to order anything at Paris Air Show? Anyone wish to put down any predictions?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:30 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 71):
So TK already serves or has announced destinations in the US that are served by at least 3 other major European carriers. Destinations served by at least 2 major European carriers and not served by TK are: DFW, DEN, DTW, EWR, MCO, PHL, SEA.

DFW has 3 European carriers. BA, KL (seasonal) and LH.
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:46 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 75):
Anyone wish to put down any predictions?

I do not see TK ordering anything before the political uncertainty resolves in Turkey. Being so close to the government, I imagine TK to be able to see what is ahead; how the new airport is taking shape, how to get financial backing for more planes. Let's not forget TK has over 200 planes on order for the next 6 years. That is a lot of planes to absorb.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:47 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 76):
DFW has 3 European carriers. BA, KL (seasonal) and LH.

Exactly, just seasonal.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:49 pm

More ESB international flights; Borajet and Pegasus get some routes:
http://www.airporthaber.com/esenboga...-ankaradan-yurt-disina-ucacak.html
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:50 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 75):
Is TK expected to order anything at Paris Air Show? Anyone wish to put down any predictions?

Engines -- PW1100 GTF chosen for the A32xNEO fleet.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/turkis...lects-pratt-whitney-090400618.html

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 73):
07:55 (IST) 11:45 (LAX) 13:45 (LAX) 12:35! (IST)

Looks like best option to me.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:17 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 80):
Engines -- PW1100 GTF chosen for the A32xNEO fleet.

P&W press release:

http://www.pw.utc.com/Press/Story/20150615-0500/
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:47 pm

This Turkish site says that TK' investigation on the KTM incident found the pilots guilty:
http://www.airkule.com/haber/-O-PILOTLAR-BIR-DAHA-THY-DE-UCAMAZ-/20714 (in Turkish)
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:30 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 82):
This Turkish site says that TK' investigation on the KTM incident found the pilots guilty:
http://www.airkule.com/haber/-O-PILOTLAR-BIR-DAHA-THY-DE-UCAMAZ-/20714 (in Turkish)

Those are some harsh words towards the pilots, but just that. No factual info on why the accident happened and why TK thinks the pilots are guilty.

If true, I find this approach of the management very unprofessional to say the least.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:41 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 75):
Is TK expected to order anything at Paris Air Show? Anyone wish to put down any predictions?

10-20 B77Ws.

Found an article about Turkish's caterer:
Nach Angaben der Do&Co Geschäftsführung in Istanbul liegt der verrechnete Preis für ein Business- Class- Essen bei 5,10 Euro, der Preis für die Economy- Klasse beträgt 2,10 Euro.

This says that an economy class meal is sold to TK for 2,10 €, business class meal for 5,10€. Didn't expect that.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:53 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 84):

Do you know the industry average for inflight meals? To me it sounds cheap considering the quality. The alcohol is probably almost as much, and even more in Business Class.  
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:08 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 85):
Do you know the industry average for inflight meals? To me it sounds cheap considering the quality. The alcohol is probably almost as much, and even more in Business Class.  

I don't know about the average for inflight meals but my parents being in the business of gastronomic restaurants and having flown TK in Y and J several times, those numbers sound accurate to me.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:17 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 85):
Do you know the industry average for inflight meals? To me it sounds cheap considering the quality. The alcohol is probably almost as much, and even more in Business Class.

I have no clue.
I could have guessed the Y class food price, but no way for the J class. With all the advertisement and pictures I saw I had the impression it cost at least double.

Quoting Mict (Reply 86):
I don't know about the average for inflight meals but my parents being in the business of gastronomic restaurants and having flown TK in Y and J several times, those numbers sound accurate to me.

Really? Wow!

Interesting that an airline can drastically increase its impression on its customers by spending only so few money. Well spent money i would say. Of course this is accompanied by carrying it in the air and other expenses, but still...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:32 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 87):
but no way for the J class. With all the advertisement and pictures I saw I had the impression it cost at least double.

Well the cost must drastically change depending if its a long-haul flight or not. I guessed those prices were just for a IST - Europe hop. Also there is a lot more to take into account than just the meal, TK also offers great service, very nice plates, silverware, etc... even on short-haul flights.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:14 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 79):

Interesting as first routes that will enjoy exclusive operating rights in the first round are ESB-AMM, ESB-GYD and ESB-MUC.

Among those ESB-AMM is the only new addition to direct services from ESB as ESB-MUC sees yearround twice daily LH service and ESB-GYD sees 5 times weekly AZAL service codeshared by TK.

Also RJ is expected to reinstate AMM-ESB.

I would expect more destinations like LHR, CDG and BRU in the first round. So I guess we will expect for a while...

Last but not least eastward expansion from ESB is at historical high with the addition of these flights soon and westward service is at historcial low...what a contraversy...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:55 pm

Today at Skytrax TK have won 'Best Airline in Europe' - 5 years in a row. Also, they've won Best Business Class Lounge.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:08 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 90):

Today at Skytrax TK have won 'Best Airline in Europe' - 5 years in a row. Also, they've won Best Business Class Lounge.

Well deserved for the best Business Lounge!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:29 pm

MyCargo have taken their first pure 747 freighter an ex-Air France 744ERF according to Skyliner-aviation.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:15 pm

TK's next A321-231 is going to land in IST in the next few minutes.

TC-JSR
http://www.flightradar24.com/THY6900/69052da
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:40 pm

I notice TK have increased their position amongst the 'worlds best airlines', now beating Emirates. Although Skytrax is to be taken with a pinch of salt, it's still impressive nonetheless.

http://www.dailysabah.com/money/2015...nks-4th-in-worlds-top-ten-airlines
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:27 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 94):

I notice TK have increased their position amongst the 'worlds best airlines', now beating Emirates. Although Skytrax is to be taken with a pinch of salt, it's still impressive nonetheless.

http://www.dailysabah.com/money/2015...lines

According to ranking TK is 4th Best on Skytrax's list. As have been flying with TK about 8 times since last Nov 2014 in Eco, it really doesn't wonder me at all. I find TK in Europe the best Airline and have experienced nothing better. Service, Food etc...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:25 am

Unsure if this has been discusses but does TK wish to start Chengdu? Are flight rights the issue or is there not demand? I notice that there are lack of European airlines flying there. Just BA & KLM. There's not a huge deal of competition.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:13 pm

Yesterday a friend of mine was coming from GVA via IST to ESB. Obviously replacement of a flat tire just 30min before take off and in front of boarding passengers was not a good image at IST.

I said to him :
Do not worry! Like in Flintstones: TK passengers and crew can run for take off and landing if there are no tires...  
.
The future is in the skies.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:23 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 96):

I think their right are maxed to China routes.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation June 2015

Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:12 pm

Anadolujet going to fly Ankara- Brussels, Ankara-Amsterdam and Ankara-London. Flights should begin in the next few months.

And TK CEO Temel Kotil spoke about flights to Sydney and Melbourne. There is also a thread;

TK Planning To Launch SYD And MEL Flights (by KarelXWB Jun 24 2015 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 96):

TK CEO said he would like to fly 10 daily flights to China but the agreements of the two countries do not allow that.
So i think there is a big demand.

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