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Westjet has procured a 5th ex-QF 763ER.

MSN's 387, 396, 402, 549 and now 710.

MSN 710 is a 1998-build.

Source atdb.org
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Quoting yyz717 (Thread starter):

That's good to see these old QF birds go to a good home - rather than scrap.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:15 pm

Neat. I didn't realize they were going for the old RR birds.

Quoting btblue (Reply 1):

That's good to see these old QF birds go to a good home - rather than scrap.

Especially as rare as they are, yes.
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Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 2):
Neat. I didn't realize they were going for the old RR birds.

Quoting btblue (Reply 1):

That's good to see these old QF birds go to a good home - rather than scrap.

Especially as rare as they are, yes.

Didn't realise they are RR. Wow - that is even better! Love the RR 767. Good news.
 
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Has WJ given any indication about routes/config and when ops will commence?
 
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It will be interesting to see what routes they open up besides the obvious Hawaii flying from Alberta.

Honestly, I feel as if they are a year or two too late. The Alberta economy won't help them at this moment, not to mention that FI, AF, KL are now well established in western Canada, further adding to the challenges WS will face from the west coast.

As for the east coast, they will be the third or maybe even fourth operator on many of the routes they choose to open.

WS will have no choice but to join an alliance if wants to succeed. Wish them luck.
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I wasn't aware they were looking for a fifth.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 4):
Has WJ given any indication about routes/config and when ops will commence?
WestJet B767 Update (by SpaceshipDC10 Feb 28 2015 in Civil Aviation)

Will WestJet's 767s Be All-economy? (by rj777 Feb 2 2015 in Civil Aviation)
 
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Quoting btblue (Reply 3):

Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 2):
Neat. I didn't realize they were going for the old RR birds.

Quoting btblue (Reply 1):

That's good to see these old QF birds go to a good home - rather than scrap.

Especially as rare as they are, yes.

Didn't realise they are RR. Wow - that is even better! Love the RR 767. Good news.

They're not RR engines, GE....
 
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Quoting whiteguy (Reply 7):

QF ever had 5 of the CFs? I didn't think that was the case. Damn...
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Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 8):
QF ever had 5 of the CFs? I didn't think that was the case. Damn...
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Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 8):

Quoting whiteguy (Reply 7):

QF ever had 5 of the CFs? I didn't think that was the case. Damn...

QF had 7 RR powered B763s that were retired a few years ago. They bought them from BA, the rest were GE.
 
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I see it. It opens up there existing destinations in Ireland and Scotland to western city. Gets a little tiresome flying a 737 across Canada and the getting on another one to fly over the pond. I hope they add Berlin, if the new airport will ever open. It sounds like they are picking city's that are currently served well.. like Southwest picking the little airport vs. where everyone else goes.
 
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Quoting Beatyair (Reply 11):
I hope they add Berlin

Oh yes. YVR-BER.
 
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These birds are obviously GEs. The RR powered -336ERs were nice for rarity but real old bangers, ready for the scrapheap (and indeed that is where they all went).

Quoting Beatyair (Reply 11):
I hope they add Berlin

It's a long way east, and not a high yielding destination. I think the chances of this happening are extremely low, although of course it would be nice for Westjet to find some cities to serve that they can have a monopoly on.

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if the new airport will ever open

It is years off, far enough that it isn't worth even speculating about. If Westjet serve Berlin before 2020 it'll be Tegel. But I don't think Westjet are going to serve Berlin in that timeframe or any other.
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Quoting cedarjet (Reply 13):
These birds are obviously GEs. The RR powered -336ERs were nice for rarity but real old bangers, ready for the scrapheap (and indeed that is where they all went).

Actually, no, not all. At least one passes through LAX on a somewhat regular basis now, working for Dynamic, (N254MY, IIRC).

Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 9):
QF purchased 22 CF6-80C2B6F powered -300ERs from Boeing. At the turn of the millennium they leased 7 RB211-524G powered -300ERs from BA
Quoting whiteguy (Reply 10):

QF had 7 RR powered B763s that were retired a few years ago. They bought them from BA, the rest were GE.

Yeah, I knew only a few actually came from BA. I don't know why; I just always thought the ones they ordered from BCA were Rollers...
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Quoting cedarjet (Reply 13):
it would be nice for Westjet to find some cities to serve that they can have a monopoly on.

I agree. However how many routes are there currently that are not served and provide for a decent return on investment?

TS and RV have the low yield tourist destinations pretty well covered. AC has the rest. It will be hard. But hey, they have 5 767s coming online, so they must have an idea where to send all these birds. Hopefully their market research is on cue.
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Quoting yyz717 (Thread starter):
Westjet has procured a 5th ex-QF 763ER.

MSN's 387, 396, 402, 549 and now 710.

MSN 710 is a 1998-build.

Source atdb.org

To be honest, haven't really seen or heard anything from WS to confirm this yet...
 
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In the meantime, yesterday...


-338... 25363... 402... C-FWAD... WestJet..... ferried 02jun15 VCV-CWF, N-reg for config prior delivery ... ex N326BC

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Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 15):
TS and RV have the low yield tourist destinations pretty well covered. AC has the rest. It will be hard. But hey, they have 5 767s coming online, so they must have an idea where to send all these birds. Hopefully their market research is on cue.

I thought that they were destined for Hawaii .
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How old are these birds?
Edit: found it

[Edited 2015-06-03 13:28:06]
 
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Wouldn't these birds have a relatively high cycle count? All those 1hr20 sectors SYD > MEL > SYD > BNE etc. The life of a QF domestic jet on the 'golden triangle' is a very busy one.

Admittedly (presumably) they were well maintained by QF but I understood high cycle count = higher stress and wear?
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Quoting whiteguy (Reply 16):
To be honest, haven't really seen or heard anything from WS to confirm this yet...

Me either, but few airlines would have a press release for one additional aircraft procurement.

WS recently converted all 13 remaining 73G orders to 738. I didn't see a press release or WS acknowledgement on that either, nor has AC commented on the changing mix of 788 and 789 orders.
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Quoting vhtje (Reply 20):
Wouldn't these birds have a relatively high cycle count? All those 1hr20 sectors SYD > MEL > SYD > BNE etc. The life of a QF domestic jet on the 'golden triangle' is a very busy one.

You have a point, but remember the B767 was also used internationally and airframes did rotate between roles over the years, so while they did a LOT of SYD-MEL-BNE flights they also did a lot of 8-10 flights to HNL/Asia/Pacific ports, so the cycle count may not be as high as you expect.

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Quoting vhtje (Reply 20):
Wouldn't these birds have a relatively high cycle count? All those 1hr20 sectors SYD > MEL > SYD > BNE etc. The life of a QF domestic jet on the 'golden triangle' is a very busy one.

In a previous thread about WS & the 767, probably the first one, it was said that these airframes may just be a not too expensive way to test widebody ops and/or international markets, before ordering newer aircraft if this proves successful.
 
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Quoting gemuser (Reply 22):
You have a point, but remember the B767 was also used internationally and airframes did rotate between roles over the years, so while they did a LOT of SYD-MEL-BNE flights they also did a lot of 8-10 flights to HNL/Asia/Pacific ports, so the cycle count may not be as high as you expect.

I am aware that QF flew 767s internationally, but I thought that was only the QF-ordered 767-338 aircraft, and not the ex-BA 767-336 RR aircraft.

I could be wrong though (it has been known to happen before)
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Quoting vhtje (Reply 24):

WJ is getting GE-engined ex-QF aircraft, not RR. The MSNs quoted in the first post correspond to:
* 387 ex VH-OGI
* 396 ex VH-OGJ
* 402 ex VH-OGL
* 549 ex VH-OGN
* 710 ex VH-OGT

All of those are GE (the RR were all ZXA-ZXG). OGT was one of the international configured frames so spent a lot of its time on HNL runs (also Asian runs before they went to A330 or were ceased). The other 4 spent a lot of time on PER and DRW runs, CNS too, as opposed to the Golden Triangle. Not saying they don't have their fair share of cycles but they certainly weren't pushed as hard as the frames that DID spend most of their time on the triangle (such as the RR).
 
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The 767-300 is the largest aircraft in WestJet's fleet at the moment. Will we see them move up to something larger in the near future? Now obviously I don't see them getting an A380 or 77W, but what about a 787-8? Or perhaps they could go one step up with the 767 family with the 767-CD? (I am using roman numerals because I have a theory that a certain renowned user has some super forum-scanning algorithm that alerts him immediately when a certain series of numbers following "767" is posted on this forum). Would the only two carriers that purchased this model in very limited quantities give them up, or do they fill a unique role in their respective fleets?

Does Boeing still have early building 787s sitting around that could be picked up for cheap? WestJet colors would look nice on that bird.
 
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Quoting pek777 (Reply 26):
The 767-300 is the largest aircraft in WestJet's fleet at the moment. Will we see them move up to something larger in the near future? Now obviously I don't see them getting an A380 or 77W, but what about a 787-8? Or perhaps they could go one step up with the 767 family with the 767-CD? (I am using roman numerals because I have a theory that a certain renowned user has some super forum-scanning algorithm that alerts him immediately when a certain series of numbers following "767" is posted on this forum). Would the only two carriers that purchased this model in very limited quantities give them up, or do they fill a unique role in their respective fleets?

A little to early to know since the '67 isn't even in the fleet yet. Adding the widebodies is a 2 year trial that will only move further ahead if the numbers work.
 
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Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 12):

The next European point to be opened from YVR will be YVR IST by TK expecting Government approval on the Air Service Agreement. It will hopefully materialize in the next 18 months....
 
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Quoting btblue (Reply 1):
That's good to see these old QF birds go to a good home - rather than scrap.

  

Couldn't agree more!

I'd love the chance to fly on one of the ex-QF birds if I get the chance to fly somewhere on Westjet metal  
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All the new Westjet 767's have 2x CF6-80 engines and the 737's have 2x CFM56-7
 
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Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 28):
The next European point to be opened from YVR will be YVR IST by TK expecting Government approval on the Air Service Agreement. It will hopefully materialize in the next 18 months....

YYZ is still 6x weekly and YUL only 3x weekly. Any chance these will go daily before opening up YVR?
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Quoting cedarjet (Reply 13):
The RR powered -336ERs were nice for rarity but real old bangers, ready for the scrapheap (and indeed that is where they all went).
Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 14):
Actually, no, not all. At least one passes through LAX on a somewhat regular basis now, working for Dynamic, (N254MY, IIRC).


Correct. There is ex VH-ZXG flying for Dynamic (N254MY), ex VH-ZXF is flying for JetAsia (HS-JAS).


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The rest of the RR birds are stored in a dreary corner of PVG some in ROW, one in MCI. Meanwhile, most of the GE birds have been converted to freighters.

Quoting vhtje (Reply 20):
Wouldn't these birds have a relatively high cycle count? All those 1hr20 sectors SYD > MEL > SYD > BNE etc. The life of a QF domestic jet on the 'golden triangle' is a very busy one.

Admittedly (presumably) they were well maintained by QF but I understood high cycle count = higher stress and wear?

The RR birds generally have a higher cycle count due to being dedicated domestic. For most of their lives at least, QF was quite diligent with balancing the flying of the GE birds between longer missions (such as HNL + Asia + PER) mid distance ones (CNS, AKL) and shorter ones (golden triangle). The idea being that no one frame would rack up proportionally more cycles than the rest.
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Quoting vhtje (Reply 24):
but I thought that was only the QF-ordered 767-338 aircraft, and not the ex-BA 767-336 RR aircraft.

But that's what we were talking about, the 338 that have gone to Westjet!      

I believe that the 336s did do the odd international flight (very few), mainly on the Tasman. I'm sure I saw a trip report about it.
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I remember Ditzyboy (a QF FA for those who don't know) saying that he once crewed a 767-336 up to NRT, but it was a last minute aircraft substitution. The RRs were never scheduled for longhaul flying, but did do some longer segments to PER/DRW/AKL/CHC.
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Here are the details of the 5 x B767-338ERs that are earmarked for Westjet:

VH-OGI msn 25246
FF 12 Aug 91
Handed over to QF at Seattle 29 Aug 91
WFU by QF 28 Nov 14
Ferried SYD-VCV 11 Dec 14
RR N304BC to Boeing Equipment Leasing 8 May 15
Total Hours 86,823, Total cycles 27,004

VH-OGJ msn 25274
FF 3 Oct 91
Handed over to QF at Seattle 16 Oct 91
WFU by QF 6 Oct 14
Ferried SYD-VCV 24 Oct 14
RR N324BC to Boeing Equipment Leasing
Ferried VCV-Lake Charles Louisiana
Canadian Reg C-FOGJ reserved for Westjet
Hours/cycles not known

VH-OGL msn 25363
FF 6 Nov 91
Handed over to QF at Seattle 21 Nov 91
WFU by QF 27 Dec 14
Ferried SYD-VCV 23 Jan 15
RR N326BC to Boeing Equipment Leasing
Canadian Reg C-FWAD reserved for Westjet
Total hours 83,692, Total cycles 27,147

VH-OGN msn 25576
FF 2 Aug 94
Handed over to QF at Seattle 23 Aug 94
WFU by QF 20 Sep 14
Ferried SYD-VCV 28 Sep 14
RR N328BC to Boeing Equipment Leasing
Canadian Reg C-GOGN reserved for Westjet
Hours/Cycles not known

VH-OGT msn 29117
FF 14 Jul 98
Handed over to QF at Seattle 20 Jul 98
WFU by QF 27 Dec 14
Ferried SYD-ASP (Alice Springs, Central Australia) for storage 2 Jan 15
RR N328BC to Boeing Equipment Leasing
Canadian Reg C-GOGN reserved for Westjet
Total hours 61,789, Total cycles 17,928
 
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Does anybody know the status of VH-OGV? It seems odd that it (being a 2000 build) was taken out of service and another airline hasn't picked it up.

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Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 5):
WS will have no choice but to join an alliance if wants to succeed.

Why? Who says they cannot remain neutral, with several large partners like AS (Gregg comes from AS and helped build their portfolio of partner carriers) and not hitch their wagon to any alliance?

If AS can do it, so can WS.
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VH-OGV is currently registered as such to OGV Leasing Limited, Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands as the Registration Holder (since 6 March 2006) with Qantas Airways as the Registered Operator. The aircraft is till in storage at Victorville where it has been since Nov 2013. Maybe the owner wants too much for an onward lease??
 
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Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 31):

YYZ will go to daily soon but there is also daily AC on YYZ IST leg
About YUL I am not so sure
YVR will be a great addition to TK as there is a huge potential in YVR, this will bite LH, BA and KL in particular, it will be good for AC so let's see how LH will try to mine the deal...AC should think long term, TK will be the largest airline in Europe soon and IST will have the largest airport in the world in 2017, so there is a lot of room for potential growth opportunity between TK and AC.
Also most arlines cannot compete with TK due to its superior service, particularly in North America flights. UA and DL suspended IST JFK and TK is doing 3 sometimes 4 daily trips now only to JFK. The only North American airline with scheduled services to Turkey now is AC with daily YYZ IST flight so good for AC. they take a lot of connecting pax due to geographical advantage to feed US and the Carribean as well..
 
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Quoting Jetstar315 (Reply 38):
VH-OGV is currently registered as such to OGV Leasing Limited, Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands as the Registration Holder (since 6 March 2006) with Qantas Airways as the Registered Operator. The aircraft is till in storage at Victorville where it has been since Nov 2013. Maybe the owner wants too much for an onward lease??

OGV Leasing has since been struck off as a company in the Cayman Islands and it was likely just a holder for financing/tax purposes on behalf of Qantas. OGV is valued at almost double what some of the aircraft WJ have are valued at. It looks like its an ugly duckling at too high a price given the number of cheaper 767s available in the market. I still miss them on domestic flying here - always used to go out of my way to get one over a 737.
 
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Quoting bbbb (Reply 40):
I still miss them on domestic flying here - always used to go out of my way to get one over a 737.

Atleast NZ still have them atleast double daily on AKL-SYD-AKL
 
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Icelandair better get their ass moving while some of these still are available. I don't think you can get much better then a used frame operated and maintained by QF.
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Quoting gemuser (Reply 33):
I believe that the 336s did do the odd international flight (very few), mainly on the Tasman. I'm sure I saw a trip report about it.

I think you're right, and I think they were last minute subs rather than planned ops? Might be wrong. In any case, very few and far between!
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:33 am

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 43):

They crossed the Tasman often enough that I'm inclined to say they sent whichever Millenium configured aircraft they felt like that day. Aside from the one time that Ditzyboy has talked about I don't think they ever operated longhaul routes, but then again neither did virtually any of the other Millenium 767s. Those routes were almost exclusively operated by the Dreamtime aircraft, but that had more to do with the configuration than anything else. The 36s certainly did a lot of Perth and Darwin runs, not to mention Tasman, so unless someone can say definitively otherwise based on inside information I never noticed any pattern to suggest that they were routed any differently to the Millenium 38s.
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Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:36 pm

I'm assuming that they won't be installing winglets ?
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Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:43 pm

Quoting btblue (Reply 3):
Didn't realise they are RR. Wow - that is even better! Love the RR 767. Good news.

Yes they were the EX BA birds that Qantas leased of BA. Great to see these 763's will be flying again, they will give Westjet more years of good service.
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:44 pm

Quoting btblue (Reply 3):
Didn't realise they are RR. Wow - that is even better! Love the RR 767. Good news.

Yes they were the EX BA birds that Qantas leased of BA. Great to see these 763's will be flying again, they will give Westjet more years of good service.
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:23 pm

Quoting United_fan (Reply 45):


I'm assuming that they won't be installing winglets ?


Yes, winglets are being installed.

Quoting Flyingsottsman (Reply 47):


Yes they were the EX BA birds that Qantas leased of BA. Great to see these 763's will be flying again, they will give Westjet more years of good service.


Again, WS is not receiving any RR powered B763s from QF!
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:27 pm

Quoting gemuser (Reply 22):
You have a point, but remember the B767 was also used internationally and airframes did rotate between roles over the years, so while they did a LOT of SYD-MEL-BNE flights they also did a lot of 8-10 flights to HNL/Asia/Pacific ports, so the cycle count may not be as high as you expect.

I can remember seeing the 767's at LAX often, the 763's saw plenty of long haul flying indeed, 10 hour non-stops were not uncommon. I remember seeing 5 or 6 763's at HNL in an evening.

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 28):
The next European point to be opened from YVR will be YVR IST by TK expecting Government approval on the Air Service Agreement. It will hopefully materialize in the next 18 months....

What a great add for TK, that will be a popular flight indeed. The feed to the Indian sub-continent alone will be helpful.

Quoting Jetstar315 (Reply 35):
VH-OGT msn 29117
FF 14 Jul 98
Handed over to QF at Seattle 20 Jul 98
WFU by QF 27 Dec 14
Ferried SYD-ASP (Alice Springs, Central Australia) for storage 2 Jan 15
RR N328BC to Boeing Equipment Leasing
Canadian Reg C-GOGN reserved for Westjet
Total hours 61,789, Total cycles 17,928

Seems like the best one out of the bunch, I'm surprised this frame was not snatched up earlier, but very happy for WS to get 5 well maintained birds to experiment with for two years. Hawaii in the winter & Europe in the summer?

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 37):
Why? Who says they cannot remain neutral, with several large partners like AS (Gregg comes from AS and helped build their portfolio of partner carriers) and not hitch their wagon to any alliance?

WS would be best to take a chapter from the AS playbook & remain their own captain & entertain several dance partners.

Canada needs a good sized carrier that hooks up with many of the major International carriers serving YYZ or YVR to send people onwards to the entire WS network throughout Canada & the USA.

Quoting Flyingsottsman (Reply 46):
Yes they were the EX BA birds that Qantas leased of BA. Great to see these 763's will be flying again, they will give Westjet more years of good service.

As has been mentioned several times in this thread, these are NOT the RR powered aircraft going to Westjet, they are 5 of the many PW powered frames that QF ordered direct from Boeing. Just in case you guys missed the replies.
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