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seat1a
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TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:41 pm

I'm looking through a TWA System Timetable from April 30, 1972 (from the Departed Flights website) and noticed the schedules from SFO have different type of services. The services are Twin Seat, Ambassador Service, and Ambassador Express. What were the differences between these services? Were Twin Seat's DC9 or 727 service?

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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:58 pm

IIRC, the twin seat was coach service with a fold down seat back in between them (707&727). Ambassador service was coast to coast coach service with upgraded meals and service. Express was marketed to business travellers travelling to the Midwest.


Ambassador Express:

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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:35 pm

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 1):
IRC, the twin seat was coach service with a fold down seat back in between them (707&727).

Several carriers had that type of seat during those years. If the flight wasn't full (as few flights were in those days with average load factors usually in the 60% range), the middle seat back folded down into a table.

 
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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:45 pm

I seem to recall that United had a similar arrangement on some planes. Air France presently has some A320s that have it for Business Class.
 
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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:20 am

The twin seats were a big deal for HP back in the day too. I think basically every airline had them until the early 90s.
 
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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:24 am

Eastern had them in their 727s when they installed the Widebody Look interior.

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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:03 am

Thanks, everyone. I remember Braniff did it with the Ultra roll-out? The window/aisle seats were leather and the center seat was cloth with the seat back pulled down to make for an 'executive work area'. And wide body interiors ...

Did the TWA DC9's ever get out West?
 
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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:56 am

I don't think the DC-9's made it past STL or MCI if my memory serves me....
 
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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:57 am

Quoting seat1a (Reply 6):
Thanks, everyone. I remember Braniff did it with the Ultra roll-out? The window/aisle seats were leather and the center seat was cloth with the seat back pulled down to make for an 'executive work area'. And wide body interiors

Fold down middle seats and wide body interiors came with the "Flying Colors" campaign. They called the tri jets "727 Braniff Place". I believe the leather seats and larger overheads came later with the Ultra roll out.

Quoting seat1a (Reply 6):

Did the TWA DC9's ever get out West?

The original (pre Ozark 9s) never went further west than Wichita.

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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:39 am

I sure remember these fold-down middle seats on United. Non-revving out of SJC to DEN one morning when I was very young with my parents and sister, we sat in two consecutive rows and put down the middle seat so we could talk between ourselves more easily.
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Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:55 am

We had 'em until the merger with PA!......
 
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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:38 pm

AA also had it on the 727-123. Don't think they had it on the 223 or the 707 but i could be mistaken.
 
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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:13 pm

Northeast had folding middle seats as well. They were promoted as the ' seat and a half'
 
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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:55 pm

IIRC Ambassador Express was first intoduced on the LGA ORD route. TWA, United and American were always fighting each other in the New York Chicago market and the new promotion briefly put TWA on top. Express flights were later added from ORD MCI and STL to the west coast. I think they were briefly offered on the SFO LAX run as well.
 
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RE: TWA 1972 Schedule Question

Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:54 pm

Quoting 113312 (Reply 3):
Air France presently has some A320s that have it for Business Class.

LH has it on some of their planes, as well.

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