|Quoting rdh3e (Reply 142):|
But that is woefully untrue. We need a red alarm in this thread that goes off everytime someone tries this BS.
We need a BS alarm everyone tries your strategy. Note the following language in the table you linked to:
"...Fares include only the price paid at the time of the ticket purchase and do not include other fees paid at the airport or onboard the aircraft..."
That means any of the ancillary revenue the airlines generate from bag fees, seat choice, meals, entertainment, etc is NOT included in the analysis you posted. So the REAL cost of airfare is significantly higher for just about every "Ma and Pa kettle" than the numbers you chose to trot out.
And that still ignores the economic reality of most Americans who have to pay these fares. Namely that the median and average household incomes have declined since 2000 for just about every strata of society and more severely so as one is less endowed in the wealth department.
|Quoting commavia (Reply 145):|
They're paying more - not "twice as much" - not to be "bent over the barrel" but rather to pay what it actually costs to operate an airline plus generate a risk-appropriate return for investors. The only reason we're even having this conversation is because consumers had such a good deal - too good a deal - for too long, and only now are being forced to actually behave like consumers in every other industry, which have to pay what it costs plus a reasonable margin.
Not sure if you understand what I am saying....when I am talking about "being bent over a barrel" I am talking about consumers experiencing the penny pinching ways of the airlines and hating it. Like running ultra high load factors and not being able to accommodate pax in case of IRROPS. I am 1k on UA and last week during Tropcal Storm Bill, my flight was cancelled and UA couldn't find me a single acceptable itinerary to my destination on the same day...and I have a huge advantage over most folks flying UA in a case like that. And for those who don't sleep on airport floors in YYR or BFS, they read about it far too often and eventually it becomes folklore.
What I am saying is that IF the airlines at least made a sincere effort to provide comfortable, friendly and reliable air service at all times, nobody would bat an eye at paying more for flying. But consumers feel they pay more AND get far less value and comfort (been on any of the slimlined aircraft of the US3 in the way back lately?) combined with airlines and its employees that don't care about them, so they rebel.
And it doesn't matter whether t's true or not. What matters is perception and influence. And if the airlines go too far, no amount of reason will hinder legislation getting passed.