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EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:28 pm

Liverpool Echo is reporting that G-EZUP has dumped fuel during its emergency this afternoon..... wasn't aware the A320 could dump fuel .. can they

[Edited 2015-06-19 06:44:49]
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:45 pm

Heard it flying over Warrington making an exceptionally loud noise... Sounded like a screeching grinding noise... At first I thought it was an aerobatic air plane and it sounded really low. When I did catch a glimpse of it, I was shocked to see it was a 320 as it wasn't making a jet like noise... Also, it was definitely low and not on the normal approach path into Liverpool. Couldn't see any smoke, fire or debris but with the noise it was making, the obviously slower airspeed and the altitude, I honestly did not think it was going to make it.
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:52 pm

Glad it landed safely. You can see the flighpath here.

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/g-ezup/#6920b25

Also, the source mentioning fuel dumping was incorrect. No fuel dump capability on the A320.
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:33 pm

Given that it seems to have turned around over Warrington, and then circled to burn off fuel, it seems that the issue became clear pretty soon after take off.
 
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:18 pm

Quoting CainanUK (Reply 1):
Heard it flying over Warrington making an exceptionally loud noise... Sounded like a screeching grinding noise... At first I thought it was an aerobatic air plane and it sounded really low. When I did catch a glimpse of it, I was shocked to see it was a 320 as it wasn't making a jet like noise... Also, it was definitely low and not on the normal approach path into Liverpool. Couldn't see any smoke, fire or debris but with the noise it was making, the obviously slower airspeed and the altitude, I honestly did not think it was going to make it.

Sounds like the RAT was deployed. Did it sound like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE8C3NxlA40
 
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:33 pm

Yep...

Definitely the RAT.
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:53 pm

I'm not sure something more to this than they are letting on. Major road closures around the airport and a main trunk road into liverpool a retail park and half of Merseyside major incident fire units dispatched, an engine shut down and the RAT deployed all for "a minor electrical issue"?? Seriously ? I just don't buy it.
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:35 pm

Well...

I no longer work in aviation but I did for over 20 years (on the ramp and in dispatch / load control)... I'm not a pilot nor do purport to be an aviation expert, but I do know a thing or two. I have seen countless emergency landings, but never have I seen one that shut all the roads around the airport before the landing including a major trunk road... I saw this plane and it was clearly not right... It was low and slow and I could hear the RAT more than I could hear the engines (if I am honest, I could only hear the RAT).

Those road closures were clearly because somebody thought that aircraft was either not gonna make the airport or were expecting "issues" when it did arrive. I feel there is much more to this than meets the eye.
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:05 am

Avherald claims electrical problems. But other than that there is no more information than what is in this thread really.
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:39 am

The Liverpool Echo has said passengers on board the aircraft where told an engine was shutdown on climb out over Warrington. I was in the city centre (Liverpool) and it certainly didn't sound like the running engine was healthy at all.
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:41 am

It's pretty clear from witness testimony that the RAT was deployed. This ties in somewhat with the crew telling the pax they had an engine problem but the airline saying it was electrical.
 
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:44 am

In response to reply number 4 yes I could hear the RAT but there was a heavy metallic sound in there as well
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:44 am

Is there any report of a PAN PAN or Mayday being called?.
 
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:53 am

I haven't heard any but after going to the airport this morning I have been told that both her engines are open with the front intakes covered, I went to look for her towarsa the river end of the runway but i got moved on rather quickly by a police officer. I wasn't able to get my phone out and get any photo sadly. I suspect shes parked in that area of the airfield.
So she's still on the ground and easyJet are denying the engines "cut out. " does that mean they didn't cut out but failed? If they didn't cut out the easyJet need to explain the RAT deployment.
I'm going to go back later see if I can get any photos.
the other thing that bothers me is as mentioned above (and in the article below) of the road closures and deployment of major incident units that simply does not happen for a "minor" electrical fault nor does the aircraft in question remain grounded for 24 hours after said incident
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/...ort-delays-services-return-9493709

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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:19 am

Are Mandatory Occurrence Records available to the public, or just other airlines.?.
 
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:19 pm

I suspect it'll be on the AAIB site as a bulletin in a month or so if it was anything serious
 
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:32 pm

Interesting the papers say G-EZUP but the pics show G-EZUT was aircraft involved!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...anding-major-electrical-fault.html

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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:17 pm

Will probably be able to get a photo from the top floor of the Hampton?

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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:25 pm

Quoting ezyairbus (Reply 16):

Those photos must be of another incident? It was definitely G-EZUP.

G-EZUT has made a few flights today and hasn't been to Liverpool at all this week.
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:56 pm

Quoting CainanUK (Reply 7):
Those road closures were clearly because somebody thought that aircraft was either not gonna make the airport or were expecting "issues" when it did arrive. I feel there is much more to this than meets the eye.

It depends how LPL's emergency/major incident plan is structured, and what severity of incident triggers what level of response. Closing roads doesn't necessarily mean the aircraft won't make the airport, it could be to establish clearways for emergency services to access the airport and then convey (potentially hundreds of) casualties to hospital in the shortest possible time. I understand why people are suggesting there could be more to this, but it also could just be the execution of a very responsive major incident plan.


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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:46 pm

I get what you are saying Dan, however, there was definitely more to this... I have been witness to countless incidents at Manchester and several at Liverpool... I have never seen them shut down the roads before to create a clear pathway to the airfield before...
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:06 pm

Where is the road that was closed located to the runway, I am just thinking this could of been a precaution incase there was a overrun on the runway,
 
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:13 am

Quoting b787register (Reply 13):
So she's still on the ground and easyJet are denying the engines "cut out. " does that mean they didn't cut out but failed? If they didn't cut out the easyJet need to explain the RAT deployment.

Sorry, what?

You are aware that the RAT is a backup for the electrics, and not a spare engine, right...?
 
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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:45 am

Quoting CainanUK (Reply 20):

I get what you are saying Dan, however, there was definitely more to this... I have been witness to countless incidents at Manchester and several at Liverpool... I have never seen them shut down the roads before to create a clear pathway to the airfield before...


Full Emergencies at the two airfields you name, do exactly what you say to create clear access ways for external emergency services.

The railway lines into Manchester Airport also have the power cut and are shut down until the incident is over and downgraded.

I suspect, respectfully, people are making more out of this than there was.

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RE: EasyJet A320 G-EZUP Emergency At Liverpool

Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:06 pm

Quoting planesarecool (Reply 22):
Sorry, what?

You are aware that the RAT is a backup for the electrics, and not a spare engine, right...?

Yes I am aware but if a engine has failed and electronics are effected wouldn't that explain the deployment?
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