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OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:57 pm

FAQ

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Flights that do not operate every day of the month create fractional service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. For example, if a flight operates 4 times in April it will show 4/30=0.133=0.1. Also , a flight that only operates once per week may vary between 0.1 and 0.2 because a weekday may repeat either 4 or 5 times depending on the month.

WHAT ABOUT CARRIERS THAT DON'T PUBLISH A SCHEDULE 9 MONTHS IN ADVANCE?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. I remove the schedule adds if I see them and show a year over year (YOY) comparison if I notice them.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE SKYWEST
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN ERROR?
The carriers file the schedules. They do make mistakes. Most of the mistakes I have seen are either related to code shares not being marked as "duplicates" or carriers filing flights with invalid data such as equipment codes that are not standard. This causes flights to not appear.

CHARTERS?
Lately charters have been showing up in the database. I have no idea if that will continue.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

Big flying reduction for 3M
August start???
*3M BHM-MSY JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0.8
3M ECP-MCO AUG 1.4>1.0 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 2>1.0 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
3M EYW-FLL SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3 NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3
3M EYW-MCO FEB 4>3
3M EYW-RSW AUG 1.4>1.0 SEP 1.9>1.0 OCT 1.9>1.0 NOV 1.8>1.0 DEC 1.9>1.0 JAN 1.8>1.0 FEB 1.9>1.0
3M EYW-TPA SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3 NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3
3M FLL-BIM AUG 1.0>0.8 SEP 1.0>0.4 OCT 1.0>0.5 NOV 1.0>0.4 DEC 1.0>0.4 JAN 1.0>0.5 FEB 1.0>0.4
3M FLL-ELH AUG 2>1.9 SEP 1.7>1.1 OCT 1.7>1.5 NOV 1.7>1.4 DEC 1.7>1.4 JAN 1.7>1.5 FEB 1.8>1.5
3M FLL-GGT FEB 0>0.5
3M FLL-GHB FEB 0>0.3
3M FLL-JAX SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3 NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3
3M FLL-MCO SEP 5>4 OCT 5>4 NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 5>4
3M FLL-MHH SEP 3>1.2 OCT 3>1.6 NOV 3>1.6 DEC 3>1.5 JAN 3>1.6 FEB 3>1.6
3M FLL-TCB AUG 1.7>1.3 SEP 1.7>0.5 OCT 1.7>0.5 NOV 1.7>0.5 DEC 1.7>0.6 JAN 1.8>1.0 FEB 1.8>1.0
3M MCO-PNS SEP 3>1.7 OCT 3>1.7 NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7 JAN 3>1.7 FEB 3>1.8
3M MCO-RSW AUG 1.4>1.0 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 2>1.0 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
3M MCO-SAV JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0.4
*3M MSY-PNS JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0.4
3M PBI-MHH AUG 1.2>0.8 SEP 1.1>0 OCT 1.2>0 NOV 1.1>0.2 DEC 1.1>1.0 JAN 1.2>1.0 FEB 1.2>1.0
3M PBI-TPA SEP 3>1.7 OCT 3>1.7 NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7 JAN 3>1.7 FEB 3>1.8

What is this? Destin, Florida and Madison, MS?
9X DSI-DXE JUL 1.1>0.6 AUG 0.2>0.1
9X DSI-NEW JUL 0.7>0.4
9X DXE-MEM JUL 0.8>0.3 AUG 0.1>0.0
9X MEM-PDK JUL 1.1>0.6 AUG 0.2>0.1

AA CLT-GSO AUG 0>1.0
AA CLT-MEM AUG 0>0.7
AA CLT-SDF AUG 0>1.0
AA DAY-LGA SEP 1.7>0.5
AA DFW-BHM DEC 6>5 JAN 6>5 FEB 7>6
AA DFW-BOS DEC 9>8 JAN 8>7 FEB 9>8
AA DFW-BWI DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>5
AA DFW-CID NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4
AA DFW-CLT SEP 7>5
AA DFW-CMH JAN 5>4 FEB 6>4
AA DFW-COS FEB 6>5
AA DFW-CVG NOV 6>7
AA DFW-DAY NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4
AA DFW-DTW DEC 6>5 JAN 6>5
AA DFW-EGE DEC 1.2>3
AA DFW-ELP DEC 9>8 JAN 9>8 FEB 10>9
AA DFW-GDL DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2
AA DFW-GPT DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4
AA DFW-GSP DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4
AA DFW-HSV DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 5>4
AA DFW-IAD DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>5
AA DFW-JAC JAN 1.2>2 FEB 1.2>3
AA DFW-LCH NOV 2>3 DEC 2>3 JAN 2>3 FEB 3>4
AA DFW-LEX NOV 2>3 DEC 2>3 JAN 2>3 FEB 3>4
AA DFW-MEM DEC 7>6 JAN 7>6 FEB 8>7
AA DFW-MLI NOV 1.9>3 DEC 1.9>3 JAN 1.8>3 FEB 1.9>3
AA DFW-OGG JAN 2>1.3 FEB 3>1.3
AA DFW-ONT DEC 6>5 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>5
AA DFW-PBI NOV 2>3 DEC 2>3 JAN 2>3 FEB 3>4
AA DFW-PDX FEB 6>5
AA DFW-PIA NOV 2>3 DEC 2>3 JAN 2>3 FEB 3>4
AA DFW-PIT NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>5
AA DFW-PSP NOV 2>3 DEC 1.0>3 JAN 1.0>3 FEB 1.0>4
AA DFW-RIC NOV 2>3 FEB 4>3
AA DFW-RNO FEB 4>3
AA DFW-SAF NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4
AA DFW-SEA NOV 8>7 DEC 10>9 JAN 9>8 FEB 10>8
AA DFW-TUL NOV 10>9 DEC 10>9 JAN 10>9 FEB 11>10
AA DFW-TUS JUL 6>7
AA DFW-TYS DEC 5>6 JAN 4>5 FEB 5>6
AA DFW-VPS FEB 8>6
AA DFW-YVR FEB 4>3
AA DFW-ZCL FEB 0.3>0.1
AA JFK-DFW NOV 2>1.1 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
AA LAX-ELP NOV 2>1.1 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
AA LAX-EUG NOV 2>1.1 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
AA LAX-HNL JAN 5>4 FEB 6>4
*AA LAX-IAD SEP 1.5>0
AA LAX-KOA JAN 2>1.1 FEB 3>1.1
AA LAX-LIH JAN 1.9>1.4 FEB 1.9>1.3
*AA LAX-MEX SEP 0>1.9 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2 DEC 0>2 JAN 0>2 FEB 0>3
AA LAX-OGG JAN 3>1.8 FEB 3>2.0
AA LAX-SJD NOV 1.9>1.8 FEB 1.6>1.4
AA LAX-STL DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2 FEB 4>3
AA MIA-CLT SEP 3>2.0
AA MIA-DTW NOV 2>1.1 DEC 2>1.5
AA MIA-STL NOV 2>1.1
AA ORD-ABQ DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2 FEB 4>3
*AA ORD-ASE JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0
AA ORD-ATL DEC 7>6 JAN 7>6 FEB 8>7
AA ORD-AUS DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4
AA ORD-BNA DEC 9>7 JAN 9>7 FEB 10>8
AA ORD-BUF DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>5
AA ORD-BWI DEC 6>4 JAN 6>4 FEB 7>5
AA ORD-CID NOV 6>5 DEC 6>5 JAN 6>5 FEB 7>6
AA ORD-CLE NOV 7>6 DEC 7>6 JAN 7>6 FEB 8>7
AA ORD-CLT SEP 3>2
AA ORD-CMH NOV 7>8 DEC 7>8 JAN 7>8 FEB 8>9
AA ORD-CMI DEC 5>6 JAN 5>6 FEB 6>7
AA ORD-DEN DEC 6>5 JAN 6>4 FEB 7>4
AA ORD-DFW NOV 17>16 DEC 18>17 JAN 18>17 FEB 19>18
AA ORD-ELP JAN 2>1.1 FEB 3>1.0
AA ORD-EWR FEB 9>8
AA ORD-FLL DEC 2>4 JAN 2>4 FEB 3>5
AA ORD-FSD DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2 FEB 4>3
AA ORD-GRR DEC 7>6 JAN 7>6 FEB 8>7
AA ORD-HSV NOV 1.9>1.0 DEC 1.9>0.9 JAN 1.8>0.8 FEB 1.9>0.9
AA ORD-LAS DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4
AA ORD-LAX NOV 9>10 DEC 9>10 JAN 9>10 FEB 10>11
AA ORD-LEX JAN 3>1.2 FEB 3>1.0
AA ORD-LIT DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>5
AA ORD-MCO NOV 4>5
AA ORD-MDT DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4
AA ORD-MEM DEC 5>3 JAN 5>3 FEB 6>4
AA ORD-MSP DEC 7>6 JAN 7>6 FEB 8>7
AA ORD-OKC DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>4
AA ORD-PBI NOV 1.0>1.9 DEC 1.0>2 JAN 1.0>2 FEB 1.0>3
AA ORD-PDX DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
AA ORD-PIA JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4
AA ORD-PIT DEC 7>6 JAN 7>6 FEB 8>7
AA ORD-PSP JAN 1.0>1.9 FEB 1.0>3
AA ORD-RDU DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4
AA ORD-RIC DEC 5>4 JAN 5>3 FEB 6>4
AA ORD-RNO DEC 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.4
AA ORD-ROC DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4
AA ORD-RSW NOV 1.9>3 DEC 1.9>3 JAN 1.8>3 FEB 1.9>4
AA ORD-SAN NOV 3>4 DEC 5>3 JAN 5>3 FEB 6>4
AA ORD-SAT NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3
AA ORD-SDF NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>4
AA ORD-SEA DEC 6>4 JAN 6>4 FEB 7>4
AA ORD-SFO DEC 7>6 JAN 7>5 FEB 8>5
AA ORD-SJC DEC 3>2 JAN 3>1.1 FEB 4>1.0
AA ORD-SJD NOV 1.0>0.8 JAN 1.2>1.0 FEB 1.2>0.9
AA ORD-SNA NOV 3>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>4
AA ORD-STL DEC 10>9 JAN 10>9 FEB 11>10
AA ORD-SUX DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
AA ORD-SYR DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>4
AA ORD-TUL DEC 5>3 JAN 5>3 FEB 6>3
AA ORD-TVC DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4
AA ORD-TYS DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2
AA ORD-XNA DEC 6>5 JAN 6>5 FEB 7>6
AA ORD-YKF JAN 2>1.1 FEB 3>1.0
AA ORD-YUL DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4
AA PHL-MIA SEP 5>4
AA PHL-ORD SEP 5>3
AA PHX-DFW SEP 8>5
AA PHX-DTW SEP 0.7>0
AA PHX-ELP JUL 0.9>1.9 SEP 0.7>0.2
AA PHX-FAT JUL 1.0>2 SEP 1.0>0.2
AA PHX-LAX SEP 3>0.8
AA PHX-ORD SEP 4>3
AA PHX-SNA SEP 0.7>0
AA PHX-TUS JUL 0>1.6

AB ORD-TXL NOV 0.9>0.6

AC FLL-YOW SEP 0.3>0.2

AS LAX-MZT NOV 0.9>1.0 DEC 0.9>1.0 FEB 0.9>1.0
AS SEA-BUR NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 5>4

B6 BOS-CUN DEC 0.9>1.0 JAN 0.5>0.7 FEB 0.1>0.2
B6 BOS-LIR JAN 0.2>0.3
B6 BOS-PLS DEC 0.1>0.3 JAN 0.2>0.3
B6 BOS-PUJ DEC 0.4>0.5 JAN 0.3>0.5
B6 BOS-RSW DEC 5>6 JAN 6>7
B6 BOS-SXM DEC 0.1>0.3

CZ LAX-CAN NOV 1.0>1.4 DEC 1.0>1.4 JAN 1.0>1.5 FEB 1.0>1.5

DL ATL-GGT JAN 0.6>0.7
DL ATL-HDN JAN 0>0.9 FEB 0>1.0
DL ATL-MGM NOV 7>8
DL ATL-ORF NOV 9>8
DL ATL-TYS NOV 8>9
DL CVG-RDU NOV 1.5>3
DL DTW-BUF JAN 4>5
DL DTW-CAK NOV 3>4
DL DTW-DAY NOV 3>4
DL DTW-DEN NOV 4>3
DL DTW-ICN JAN 0.7>0.9
DL DTW-MSY NOV 1.9>3 DEC 1.9>3 JAN 2>3 FEB 3>4
DL HDN-MSP JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.1
DL JAC-MSP JAN 0.3>0.1
DL LEX-MSP NOV 0.6>0.2
DL LGA-SDF NOV 3>1.7
DL MIA-DTW NOV 1.8>3 JAN 1.9>3 FEB 1.8>3
DL MSP-OKC NOV 3>1.7
DL MSP-YUL DEC 1.5>1.0
Wow, close in change
*DL SEA-BZN AUG 0>1.0 DEC 1.4>0.9
**DL SEA-CUN JAN 0>0.2 FEB 0>0.1
**DL SEA-MSO JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0
DL SEA-SFO NOV 7>6
DL SLC-ATL NOV 8>7
DL SLC-SJD OCT 0.4>0.3
DL SLC-SMF NOV 4>5
DL SLC-YVR NOV 1.7>1.0

HI BLD-GCW NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0

HU ORD-PEK NOV 0.6>0.4

*LH ORD-DUS OCT 0.7>0.6 NOV 0.6>0 DEC 0.5>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.8>0

MW HNL-JHM SEP 3>11 OCT 0>11 NOV 0>11 DEC 0>11 JAN 0>11 FEB 0>12
MW HNL-MKK SEP 3>12 OCT 0>12 NOV 0>12 DEC 0>12 JAN 0>12 FEB 0>12
MW HNM-OGG SEP 0.5>2 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2 DEC 0>2 JAN 0>2 FEB 0>3
MW JHM-JRF SEP 0.1>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0>3 FEB 0>4
MW JHM-KOA SEP 0.7>4 OCT 0>4 NOV 0>4 DEC 0>4 JAN 0>4 FEB 0>4
MW JRF-MKK SEP 0.3>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3 JAN 0>3 FEB 0>3
MW JRF-OGG SEP 0.1>1.7 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2 DEC 0>2 JAN 0>2 FEB 0>3
MW KOA-MKK SEP 0>1.2 OCT 0>1.6 NOV 0>1.6 DEC 0>1.6 JAN 0>1.5 FEB 0>1.6
MW KOA-OGG SEP 3>10 OCT 0>10 NOV 0>10 DEC 0>10 JAN 0>10 FEB 0>11
MW MKK-OGG SEP 1.4>8 OCT 0>9 NOV 0>9 DEC 0>9 JAN 0>9 FEB 0>9
MW MUE-OGG SEP 0.8>3 OCT 0>2 NOV 0>2 DEC 0>2 JAN 0>2 FEB 0>3

UA DEN-ABQ NOV 5>4
UA DEN-ASE NOV 7>5
UA DEN-ATL NOV 3>2.0
UA DEN-BOI NOV 5>4
UA DEN-BZN NOV 4>3
UA DEN-COS NOV 8>9
UA DEN-DRO NOV 7>6
UA DEN-EGE NOV 1.9>1.0
UA DEN-FCA NOV 1.0>1.9
*UA DEN-FLL OCT 0.2>0.0 NOV 1.0>0.1
UA DEN-FSD NOV 5>4
UA DEN-GJT NOV 3>4
UA DEN-HDN NOV 1.9>1.0
UA DEN-ICT NOV 5>3
UA DEN-LAS NOV 5>6
UA DEN-MKE NOV 2>3 DEC 2>3
UA DEN-MLI NOV 1.9>1.0
UA DEN-OKC NOV 5>4
UA DEN-PSP OCT 3>1.0 NOV 3>0.9
UA DEN-PVR FEB 0.6>0.5
UA DEN-RAP NOV 6>4
UA DEN-SAT NOV 3>1.0
UA DEN-TUL OCT 4>3
UA DEN-TUS NOV 5>3
UA DEN-YYC NOV 4>3
UA DEN-YYZ NOV 3>1.9
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:58 pm

UA DEN-YYZ NOV 3>1.9
UA EWR-BCN JAN 0.6>1.1 FEB 0.6>0.8
UA EWR-BOS NOV 11>10 FEB 11>10
UA EWR-DEN NOV 6>7
UA EWR-MCO NOV 9>8 DEC 9>8 JAN 9>8 FEB 11>10
UA EWR-MIA NOV 6>5
UA EWR-PBI NOV 8>7 DEC 7>8 JAN 7>8 FEB 8>9
UA IAD-BUF NOV 2>1.0
UA IAD-SAV NOV 3>2
UA IAD-SYR NOV 4>3
UA IAD-TYS NOV 3>2
UA IAH-CLE FEB 6>5
UA IAH-CUN NOV 6>7
UA IAH-DEN NOV 12>11
UA IAH-DFW NOV 9>8
UA IAH-ELP NOV 5>6
UA IAH-GPT NOV 4>3 DEC 5>4
*UA IAH-GUA SEP 3>1.6 OCT 3>0.1 NOV 3>0.4 DEC 3>0.7 JAN 3>0.5 FEB 3>0.1
UA IAH-LAS NOV 7>6
UA IAH-MFE NOV 7>6
UA IAH-MKC AUG 0.1>0.0
UA IAH-MSP NOV 5>4
UA IAH-PIT NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4
UA IAH-SAT NOV 11>10
UA IAH-SJD SEP 1.3>1.1 OCT 3>1.7
UA IAH-TPA OCT 5>4 NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 5>4
UA LAX-ASE NOV 0>1.0
UA LAX-EWR OCT 12>10 NOV 12>13 DEC 12>13 FEB 13>14
UA LAX-IAH OCT 12>11
*UA LAX-JFK OCT 6>5 NOV 6>0 DEC 6>0 JAN 6>0 FEB 6>0
UA LAX-SBA OCT 6>5 NOV 6>5 DEC 6>5 JAN 6>5 FEB 6>5
UA LAX-SBP SEP 4>5
UA ORD-ALB NOV 5>4
UA ORD-ATW NOV 5>4
UA ORD-BDL OCT 5>4 NOV 5>4
UA ORD-BOS NOV 9>8
UA ORD-BUF NOV 5>4
UA ORD-CLT NOV 4>5
UA ORD-DCA NOV 14>13
UA ORD-DEN NOV 10>11
UA ORD-DFW NOV 8>6
UA ORD-EWR NOV 12>11
UA ORD-FLL NOV 2>3
UA ORD-FSD NOV 4>5
UA ORD-GSO NOV 3>4
UA ORD-GSP NOV 3>4
UA ORD-IAH NOV 11>10
UA ORD-ICT NOV 5>4
UA ORD-IND NOV 8>9
UA ORD-JAX NOV 3>4
UA ORD-LAX NOV 12>13
UA ORD-LIT NOV 4>3
UA ORD-MBS SEP 4>3
UA ORD-MEM NOV 6>3
UA ORD-MIA NOV 2>1.2
UA ORD-OMA NOV 6>5
UA ORD-ORF NOV 4>2
UA ORD-PHL NOV 7>6
UA ORD-RDU NOV 5>4
UA ORD-TVC NOV 3>2
UA ORD-TYS NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 5>4
UA ORD-YUL NOV 5>4
UA ORD-YVR NOV 3>2
UA ORD-YYC NOV 3>4
UA SFO-AUS NOV 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>5
UA SFO-DEN NOV 9>10
They actually cut frequency?
*UA SFO-EWR SEP 14>13 OCT 14>11 DEC 14>13 JAN 11>10 FEB 14>13
UA SFO-IAH SEP 9>8
*UA SFO-JFK OCT 7>6 NOV 7>0 DEC 7>0 JAN 8>0 FEB 8>0
UA SFO-LIH NOV 1.0>2
UA SFO-RDU OCT 1.0>1.9 NOV 1.0>2
UA SFO-SAN NOV 9>8

US CLT-AUS FEB 4>5
US CLT-DFW SEP 9>8
US CLT-DTW FEB 8>9
US CLT-EYW JAN 1.1>2 FEB 1.0>3
US CLT-FLL JAN 8>9 FEB 8>9
US CLT-FPO FEB 0.8>0.6
US CLT-MEM FEB 7>8
US CLT-MHT JAN 1.1>2 FEB 1.0>3
US CLT-ORD SEP 9>8
US CLT-PBI JAN 5>6 FEB 4>7
US CLT-SAT FEB 4>5
US DCA-BNA NOV 5>4 JAN 6>5
US DCA-CVG AUG 3>1.8
US DCA-PNS AUG 0.7>0.5
US DCA-RDU AUG 7>6
US DCA-SYR AUG 4>3
US DCA-YYZ AUG 1.8>1.1
US LAX-RDU NOV 1.9>1.1 DEC 1.9>1.0 JAN 1.8>1.0 FEB 1.9>1.0
US LGA-RIC AUG 1.9>0.2 SEP 3>0
US PHL-GCM DEC 0.4>0.2 JAN 0.5>0.4
US PHX-CUN JAN 1.7>1.4 FEB 1.9>1.7
*US PHX-HNL JAN 3>1.9 FEB 4>1.9
US PHX-LIH JAN 2>1.3 FEB 3>1.0
US PHX-MEX FEB 2>1.4
US PHX-MZT FEB 1.4>1.3
US PHX-ORD SEP 7>5

VS ATL-MAN FEB 1.0>0.9
*VS LAX-LHR OCT 1.8>2 NOV 1.0>1.5 DEC 1.0>1.8 JAN 1.0>1.6 FEB 1.0>1.5
VS MIA-LHR NOV 2>1.9 DEC 2>1.9 FEB 3>1.9
VS SFO-LHR NOV 2>1.4 DEC 2>1.7 JAN 2>1.5 FEB 3>1.5

WG MCO-YYZ DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0

WN FLL-SJU SEP 1.0>0.8 OCT 1.0>0.8
*WN IAD-SAN NOV 1.0>0.3 DEC 1.0>0.4
*WN MCO-SAN NOV 1.0>0.3 DEC 1.0>0.4

WP HNL-OGG JUL 8>10 AUG 9>10 SEP 9>10 OCT 9>10 NOV 9>10
WS TPA-YOW OCT 0.1>0.0
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:02 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
What is this? Destin, Florida and Madison, MS?
9X DSI-DXE JUL 1.1>0.6 AUG 0.2>0.1
9X DSI-NEW JUL 0.7>0.4
9X DXE-MEM JUL 0.8>0.3 AUG 0.1>0.0
9X MEM-PDK JUL 1.1>0.6 AUG 0.2>0.1

Southern Airways Express, the Part 135 carrier based in Memphis. Ridgeland is a suburb of Jackson and has a small airport, Bruce Campbell Field.

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Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*AA LAX-IAD SEP 1.5>0

This is a metal transfer to US and will be operated on US metal and is not going away.
 
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IAH-GUA is definitely a mistake. UA operates up to 4 daily flights on Saturdays and two daily on low season and three daily on high season.
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:34 pm

Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 2):
Southern Airways Express, the Part 135 carrier based in Memphis. Ridgeland is a suburb of Jackson and has a small airport, Bruce Campbell Field.

Hmmm...these aren't EAS, so how are they making any money?

Quoting apodino (Reply 3):

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*AA LAX-IAD SEP 1.5>0

This is a metal transfer to US and will be operated on US metal and is not going away.

Figures. I am so tired of this two code operation.

Quoting avi8 (Reply 4):

IAH-GUA is definitely a mistake. UA operates up to 4 daily flights on Saturdays and two daily on low season and three daily on high season.

No idea. Still shows as 738s, just fewer. Perhaps the problem with an unapproved equipment code that keeps cropping up?
 
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Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*AA ORD-ASE JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0

Cool. Was wondering when this would finally happen. Given AA's traditional strength in seasonal ski markets, it has long seemed like an ORD-ASE on a CR7 would make total sense, to compliment not only the apparently-strong franchise AA/Eagle has already built in ASE with the DFW/LAX flights, not to mention of course the huge presence in EGE.
 
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Quoting enilria (Reply 5):
Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 2):
Southern Airways Express, the Part 135 carrier based in Memphis. Ridgeland is a suburb of Jackson and has a small airport, Bruce Campbell Field.

Hmmm...these aren't EAS, so how are they making any money?

Here's a good story about Southern Airways Express and its background from earlier this year:

http://bittersoutherner.com/fly-me-t...ulf-southern-airways/#.VYbZxvlVikp
 
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Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
B6 BOS-CUN DEC 0.9>1.0 JAN 0.5>0.7 FEB 0.1>0.2
B6 BOS-LIR JAN 0.2>0.3
B6 BOS-PLS DEC 0.1>0.3 JAN 0.2>0.3
B6 BOS-SXM DEC 0.1>0.3

Thanks as always for this update.

After looking at the updated schedules on B6's site it appears B6 is aiming for increased Sunday leisure flying for the non-Big 5 (anything besides AUA/CUN/MBJ/NAS/PUJ).

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Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:45 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
*UA IAH-GUA SEP 3>1.6 OCT 3>0.1 NOV 3>0.4 DEC 3>0.7 JAN 3>0.5 FEB 3>0.1

This has to be a huge mistake. No way on earth IAH-GUA would be anything less than daily ever.
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:51 pm

Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 7):
Here's a good story about Southern Airways Express and its background from earlier this year:

http://bittersoutherner.com/fly-me-t...ulf-southern-airways/#.VYbZxvlVikp

Good article. They have to be losing their @ss.

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 8):
Thanks as always for this update.
 
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 9):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
*UA IAH-GUA SEP 3>1.6 OCT 3>0.1 NOV 3>0.4 DEC 3>0.7 JAN 3>0.5 FEB 3>0.1

This has to be a huge mistake. No way on earth IAH-GUA would be anything less than daily ever.

Anybody checked UA.com? If you do and it looks normal, see if most of the flights in that timeframe are on a new type.
 
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Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*WN IAD-SAN NOV 1.0>0.3 DEC 1.0>0.4
*WN MCO-SAN NOV 1.0>0.3 DEC 1.0>0.4

And the drawdown of newer routes at SAN continues past the initial Sept/Oct period reported last week... And now affecting the new schedules (November 2015) that were released just over a month ago!

Seems little doubt that the WN route planners are either not doing their homework very well these days -- by starting questionable routes in the first place -- or there was some other motivation last year to add all these new routes at SAN, just to start pulling them back a year later.

Disturbing trends lately from the leading cx in SAN (carrying just a tick under 40% of the traffic at Lindbergh Field!) whose pax traffic has already grown 12% this year! Very strange goings-on.

  

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Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
US CLT-MHT JAN 1.1>2 FEB 1.0>3

Has MHT ever had this many frequencies to CLT?
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:33 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 11):
And the drawdown of newer routes at SAN continues past the initial Sept/Oct period reported last week... And now affecting the new schedules (November 2015) that were released just over a month ago!
Quoting SANFan (Reply 11):
Seems little doubt that the WN route planners are either not doing their homework very well these days -- by starting questionable routes in the first place -- or there was some other motivation last year to add all these new routes at SAN, just to start pulling them back a year later.

I think it is pretty clear that this is the result of WN's forced capacity discipline and these long-hauls are easy to pull and create a lot fewer ASMs. I'd argue that it is essentially "cheating", however, since simply pulling these flights does squat to improve overall profitability. It's just a math trick and SAN pays the price. I'd say it has very little to do with SAN performance.
 
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Quoting enilria (Reply 13):
I'd argue that it is essentially "cheating", however, since simply pulling these flights does squat to improve overall profitability.

Except both of these flights are very high cost to operate (due to their long stage length) and both have terrible yields relative to their stage length meaning both are likely losers in the WN network. No surprise that WN will cut routes that are the biggest losers and have little in strategic value.
 
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Great increases from CLT! Only if TUL and OKC could go 3 daily.
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:57 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
UA IAH-TPA OCT 5>4 NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 5>4

Probably the lowest frequency I've ever seen in the IAH-TPA market. UA seems to be undoing what CO built all these years in the Florida market, and slowly going back to a historically weak presence in the region. For comparison, AA's DFW-TPA will have 7 frequencies, and WN has 3 frequencies in HOU-TPA market.
 
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DSI is error should read KDTS. According werbsite airnav.com


No where is Madison, MS.



9X what is airline for? I can't find splanespotters.net or google.


Thanks,



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Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
*WN IAD-SAN NOV 1.0>0.3 DEC 1.0>0.4

Only from Sept 13th - Oct 31st, then its back to daily...

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Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:22 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 13):
I think it is pretty clear that this is the result of WN's forced capacity discipline and these long-hauls are easy to pull and create a lot fewer ASMs. I'd argue that it is essentially "cheating", however, since simply pulling these flights does squat to improve overall profitability. It's just a math trick and SAN pays the price. I'd say it has very little to do with SAN performance.
Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 14):
Except both of these flights are very high cost to operate (due to their long stage length) and both have terrible yields relative to their stage length meaning both are likely losers in the WN network. No surprise that WN will cut routes that are the biggest losers and have little in strategic value.

Then why even bother starting both daily routes (SAN-MCO in Jun 2014 & SAN-IAD in Nov 2014) if they're such 'likely losers'? And why are they even keeping them around for the rest of the year as Sat-only offerings? Why not just admit they made some large mistakes and get rid of them completely?

Along these same lines, WN route planners threw a SAN-MKE at us this summer -- Sat-only and April-thru-July only! (And I'm sure we'll not see that route again.) It doesn't get much closer to a non-flight than that!

As I said before, I don't know what's going on in the route development offices at DAL but I sure don't care for the final products they're putting out lately.

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Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:25 pm

Quoting flyiguy (Reply 18):
Only from Sept 13th - Oct 31st, then its back to daily...

Nope. The current skeds show what Enilria reported; both IAD and MCO are Sat-only for the duration of the open booking window... (Except there are some additional days op'd in late Dec for the Holidays.)

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Quoting enilria (Reply 5):

Within the next 45 days you should see most US Code changed to AA.
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Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Big flying reduction for 3M
August start???

I wonder if some of the Key West pull downs have to do with Mokulele's "not really an announcement but is" of them entering the Florida market?
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Hi Enilria,

Your 3M data has been mirrored here on the latest iteration of the South Florida Aviation thread: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 5 (by American 767 May 28 2015 in Civil Aviation)

Full credit and linking to this thread has been given, in accordance with your previous requests.

EDIT: Seems my "Thank you" note got cut off. Anyway, thank you for your efforts in compiling this data, our South Florida Aviation group really appreciates your hard work.

Regards,

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[Edited 2015-06-21 11:39:50]
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Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 14):
Except both of these flights are very high cost to operate (due to their long stage length) and both have terrible yields

If you are going to say that revenue divided by miles (yield) is very low then you also need to say that cost divided by miles (CASM) is also very low. It is apples and oranges to refer to revenue by mile and costs in total. Nothing you have said there indicates these routes are losers. You have only described the math behind all long-haul routes.

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 14):
meaning both are likely losers in the WN network

No proof of that...and also why did they add them? They probably only pulled them because they are new, long-haul, and they need to cut capacity to appease Wall Street.

Quoting flyiguy (Reply 18):

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
*WN IAD-SAN NOV 1.0>0.3 DEC 1.0>0.4

Only from Sept 13th - Oct 31st, then its back to daily...

Nope

Quoting B757capt (Reply 21):

Quoting enilria (Reply 5):

Within the next 45 days you should see most US Code changed to AA.

Hooray

Quoting usxguy (Reply 22):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Big flying reduction for 3M
August start???

I wonder if some of the Key West pull downs have to do with Mokulele's "not really an announcement but is" of them entering the Florida market?

Who runs before the enemy even arrives? I bet they are short of pilots.

Quoting LPDAL (Reply 23):
Hi Enilria,

Your 3M data has been mirrored here on the latest iteration of the South Florida Aviation thread: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 5 (by American 767 May 28 2015 in Civil Aviation)

Full credit and linking to this thread has been given, in accordance with your previous requests.

EDIT: Seems my "Thank you" note got cut off. Anyway, thank you for your efforts in compiling this data, our South Florida Aviation group really appreciates your hard work.

Appreciate the credit. I prefer just to link to the thread, but it's OK.
 
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:04 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 24):
Who runs before the enemy even arrives? I bet they are short of pilots.

A well run enemy that doesn't delay 80% of their flights...
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Quoting enilria (Reply 24):
Who runs before the enemy even arrives? I bet they are short of pilots.

My speculation is that 3M is losing serious money (for them) on IAD flying. EAS money won't save you if you're only carrying 3 pax on some of the flights.

If they need pilots in the south; there's a source.
 
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Quoting usxguy (Reply 25):
Quoting enilria (Reply 24):
Who runs before the enemy even arrives? I bet they are short of pilots.

A well run enemy that doesn't delay 80% of their flights...

Wow. Didn't know that.

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 26):
If they need pilots in the south; there's a source.

I guess but they need to use the planes too, but EAS is hard to escape.
 
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Quoting enilria (Reply 13):

According to reliable Sources WN schedule reduction was in part due to a NEW used 700 aircraft will not be ready in time for the flying schedule.

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Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:59 pm

Quoting phatfarmlines (Reply 16):
Probably the lowest frequency I've ever seen in the IAH-TPA market.

I still see 5 on UA.com, this looks to be an error.

Quoting enilria (Reply 10):
Anybody checked UA.com? If you do and it looks normal, see if most of the flights in that timeframe are on a new type.

It's in there normally, 3 daily 738's. So this appears to be an error.

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
*UA IAH-GUA SEP 3>1.6 OCT 3>0.1 NOV 3>0.4 DEC 3>0.7 JAN 3>0.5 FEB 3>0.1
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
They actually cut frequency?
*UA SFO-EWR SEP 14>13 OCT 14>11 DEC 14>13 JAN 11>10 FEB 14>13

Still shows the same frequency on the website, appears to be another error.
 
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:13 pm

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 28):
Quoting enilria (Reply 13):

According to reliable Sources WN schedule reduction was in part due to a NEW used 700 aircraft will not be ready in time for the flying schedule.

Perhaps, but it is also timed exactly to when Wall Street shamed them into cutting capacity 1%. Phase 1 of the cut was last week.

Quoting rdh3e (Reply 29):
Still shows the same frequency on the website, appears to be another error.

You checked every day? These are averaged over the month. Perhaps they are weening on TUE/WED/SAT.
 
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Quoting enilria (Reply 30):
You checked every day? These are averaged over the month. Perhaps they are weening on TUE/WED/SAT.

I was under the impression we were going to "up to" 17x SFO-EWR and 14x LAX-EWR with the closing of JFK. I'd wait another week before making a final determination. I suspect you're absolutely correct regarding the day-of-week reductions, though - hardly a surprise.
 
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Quoting panam330 (Reply 31):
I was under the impression we were going to "up to" 17x SFO-EWR and 14x LAX-EWR with the closing of JFK.

Is it possible for UA to schedule 12-13 but have a stand-by A/C available in the event of demand at certain times? Much like the Eastern Shuttle did years ago...always having a stand-by plane available for overflow.
 
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Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 28):
According to reliable Sources WN schedule reduction was in part due to a NEW used 700 aircraft will not be ready in time for the flying schedule

There are a LOT more flight cuts than 1 737-worth; the SAN cuts themselves would account for about 3 a/c + all the other flights that were axed in Sept & Oct... Sorry, 1 a/c delivery delay is just a drop in the bucket for changes of this scope.

I'm sorry but I'm real confused here. Is this all-powerful "guidance of Wall Street" or "appeasing investors" or whatever the reason really is, actually SO important to the airline that they are really willing to pull and let sit idle for almost 2 months, perhaps 8 existing airplanes and all their revenue-producing flights? All that lost revenue is actually BETTER for the airline than whatever the alternative result is? Plus they also have all the mad consumers with flights now cancelled, plus the nasty work of contacting them all and refunding or reaccomodations, and probably many other things necessary to accomplish all this.

I am obviously not an airline economist but this just doesn't make any sense to me.

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Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA PHX-TUS JUL 0>1.6

What's this? An added mainline flight?
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Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*3M BHM-MSY JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0.8
3M ECP-MCO AUG 1.4>1.0 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 2>1.0 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
3M EYW-FLL SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3 NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3
3M EYW-MCO FEB 4>3
3M EYW-RSW AUG 1.4>1.0 SEP 1.9>1.0 OCT 1.9>1.0 NOV 1.8>1.0 DEC 1.9>1.0 JAN 1.8>1.0 FEB 1.9>1.0
3M EYW-TPA SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3 NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3
3M FLL-BIM AUG 1.0>0.8 SEP 1.0>0.4 OCT 1.0>0.5 NOV 1.0>0.4 DEC 1.0>0.4 JAN 1.0>0.5 FEB 1.0>0.4
3M FLL-ELH AUG 2>1.9 SEP 1.7>1.1 OCT 1.7>1.5 NOV 1.7>1.4 DEC 1.7>1.4 JAN 1.7>1.5 FEB 1.8>1.5
3M FLL-GGT FEB 0>0.5
3M FLL-GHB FEB 0>0.3
3M FLL-JAX SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3 NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3
3M FLL-MCO SEP 5>4 OCT 5>4 NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 5>4
3M FLL-MHH SEP 3>1.2 OCT 3>1.6 NOV 3>1.6 DEC 3>1.5 JAN 3>1.6 FEB 3>1.6
3M FLL-TCB AUG 1.7>1.3 SEP 1.7>0.5 OCT 1.7>0.5 NOV 1.7>0.5 DEC 1.7>0.6 JAN 1.8>1.0 FEB 1.8>1.0
3M MCO-PNS SEP 3>1.7 OCT 3>1.7 NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7 JAN 3>1.7 FEB 3>1.8
3M MCO-RSW AUG 1.4>1.0 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 2>1.0 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
3M MCO-SAV JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0.4
*3M MSY-PNS JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0.4
3M PBI-MHH AUG 1.2>0.8 SEP 1.1>0 OCT 1.2>0 NOV 1.1>0.2 DEC 1.1>1.0 JAN 1.2>1.0 FEB 1.2>1.0
3M PBI-TPA SEP 3>1.7 OCT 3>1.7 NOV 3>1.7 DEC 3>1.7 JAN 3>1.7 FEB 3>1.8

It would be great if 3M does have plans to start service at BHM, SAV, and MSY in August, but I'm not going to place any bets on that.

Quoting Q (Reply 17):
9X what is airline for? I can't find splanespotters.net or google.

9X is Southern Airways Express. They are based out of MEM and fly 9 seaters to various cities in the South. They've been around for a couple of years. Given the reduction in service at NEW, I'm guessing the flights are not doing too well. Most people here in the New Orleans and Baton Rouge area prefer to drive the 3 or 4 hours over to the beaches.
 
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Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 34):

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RE: OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:59 pm

Quoting panam330 (Reply 31):
I was under the impression we were going to "up to" 17x SFO-EWR and 14x LAX-EWR with the closing of JFK.

Odd that they didn't file that schedule. No idea...

Quoting jetblastdubai (Reply 32):
Is it possible for UA to schedule 12-13 but have a stand-by A/C available in the event of demand at certain times?

Anything is possible, but that is a very high cost solution from a bygone era. Highly unlikely.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 33):
actually SO important to the airline that they are really willing to pull and let sit idle for almost 2 months

Appeasing Wall Street probably added a fraction of a billion dollars to the stock price, so yes it is important to them.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 33):
perhaps 8 existing airplanes and all their revenue-producing flights?

It is possible there are paint, C-check, and IFE tracks that they can shift around so that they gain planes in peak season for the ones lost in off-peak.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 33):
All that lost revenue is actually BETTER for the airline than whatever the alternative result is?

Having said everything I just said, I agree with you that this is just what they call "optics". It looks like they did something when capacity shamed. I do not believe these changes will noticeably improve results...and they could actually reduce results depending upon how much productivity of people and airplanes falls as a result of the late decision. DL is very good at managing change. WN is the worst in the industry at it. I have little confidence they will be able to offset the productivity effects.

Quoting NolaMD88fan (Reply 35):
It would be great if 3M does have plans to start service at BHM, SAV, and MSY in August, but I'm not going to place any bets on that.

I think this schedule change makes things look poor in terms of their profitability outlook.
 
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:12 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 24):
No proof of that...and also why did they add them? They probably only pulled them because they are new, long-haul, and they need to cut capacity to appease Wall Street.

So you think WN is cutting profitable flying?

They probably added them thinking they might work given WN's strength in SAN. However, not everything works. Lots of carriers add routes that fail. It's not like either of these routes is critical to WN's core business and WN isn't a particularly strong carrier in the transcon-type market anyway.

Quoting enilria (Reply 37):
WN is the worst in the industry at it.

I appreciate your OAG posts and know you don't like WN, but this kind of statement is absurd. WN has been consistently profitable for 40+ years. Almost no other airline in the world can make that claim. They've done so through recessions, oil price spikes and through lots of attempts by competitors to attack them.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:49 am

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 38):
So you think WN is cutting profitable flying?

I'm saying that what they cut was not the worst. They cut the easiest stuff to cut given their technological constraints. I'm sure they didn't ignore profitability, but that was secondary to stuff they could remove without disruption because they cannot reaccom passengers except manually.

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 38):
They probably added them thinking they might work given WN's strength in SAN.

Agreed

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 38):
I appreciate your OAG posts and know you don't like WN, but this kind of statement is absurd. WN has been consistently profitable for 40+ years.

WN doesn't even have the technology to reaccom passengers. WN loads their schedule and doesn't change it to some extent because they can't. That's why these cuts are so noticeable. I'd love to know how much manpower has to be devoted to this manual reaccom. That's a great example of not handling change well. They are the only large airline in the industry without that ability.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:51 am

I must say I'm surprised that not a single person has posted much about the two new SEA routes for DL.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:07 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
B6 BOS-LIR JAN 0.2>0.3

...Filter period..........Seats.....Passengers......Load factor
November 2014.......1500...........902..................60%
December 2014.......1200...........977..................81%
Source: US DoT

B6 BOS-LIR 1x weekly just began on November 01st 2014 and the source unfortunately doesn't provide figures beyond December 2014 yet.




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Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 9):
This has to be a huge mistake. No way on earth IAH-GUA would be anything less than daily ever.

I've read above that it seems to be a glitch of the system.
Neither NK or WN are touching GUA as part of their new expansion to Central America from Houston metropolitan area this year.

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RE: OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:14 am

Quoting enilria (Reply 40):

Any CUN flight is easy to pull off so SEA-CUN isn't a game changer per se.

No idea what MSO-SEA is for since most of its potential traffic flows is already handled by MSO-SLC/MSP. I'd be surprised if MSO gives any meaningful contribution to SEA long haul.
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:04 am

Quoting jetblue1965 (Reply 42):
No idea what MSO-SEA is for since most of its potential traffic flows is already handled by MSO-SLC/MSP. I'd be surprised if MSO gives any meaningful contribution to SEA long haul.

Exactly. Just the latest example of DL overlapping on thin AS domestic routes. "International hub"
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:21 am

Quoting enilria (Reply 40):
I must say I'm surprised that not a single person has posted much about the two new SEA routes for DL.

That hopefully is a good sign that people are finally tired of talking about it & all the wicked little hair pulling fights are over!   
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RE: OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:45 am

Quoting usxguy (Reply 25):

A well run enemy that doesn't delay 80% of their flights...

Operating in Hawaii vs operating in Florida is complete opposite... if Mokulule think they are going to operate FL flights the same way they operate intra-HI flights, they'll end up with a 8% OTP.

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 28):
According to reliable Sources WN schedule reduction was in part due to a NEW used 700 aircraft will not be ready in time for the flying schedule.
Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 38):
They probably added them thinking they might work given WN's strength in SAN. However, not everything works. Lots of carriers add routes that fail.

I agree with enilra, if WN was cutting the flights because they were unprofitable, it would be at a schedule rollout. I think this has to be with cutting that 1% capacity and/or maybe an a/c delivery issue.
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RE: OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:50 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL SEA-BZN AUG 0>1.0 DEC 1.4>0.9
**DL SEA-CUN JAN 0>0.2 FEB 0>0.1
**DL SEA-MSO JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0

Very interesting that DL is trying to overlay even more AS/QX routes some of these routes are not even real good routes for AS/QX. This could become more interesting as they come on-line. I see SEA-BZN starts very soon in August

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA ORD-SEA DEC 6>4 JAN 6>4 FEB 7>4

This is quite a reduction for AA in the SEA market are they maybe allowing AS more flying on this route and the PDX route. I had not see any increase from them but I may have missed it.

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RE: OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:09 am

TUL took cuts from ORD and DFW from AA and ORD from AA. Fairly step cuts unless some upgauging is occurring.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:50 am

Quoting jetblue1965 (Reply 42):
Quoting enilria (Reply 40):

Any CUN flight is easy to pull off so SEA-CUN isn't a game changer per se.

It's ridiculously long-haul, though, for a leisure market. Very hard to make money.

Quoting jetblue1965 (Reply 42):
No idea what MSO-SEA is for since most of its potential traffic flows is already handled by MSO-SLC/MSP. I'd be surprised if MSO gives any meaningful contribution to SEA long haul.
Quoting HPRamper (Reply 43):
Exactly. Just the latest example of DL overlapping on thin AS domestic routes. "International hub"
Quoting RWA380 (Reply 44):
That hopefully is a good sign that people are finally tired of talking about it & all the wicked little hair pulling fights are over!

At the risk of pulling hair, this is yet another example of a route that will pull traffic from SLC. I don't think many envisioned that a route as thin as MSO would be added to SEA a year ago. It's actually odd that these are the types of routes they are concentrating on now. There must be more in CA, NM, AZ, CO they could add with more value.

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 45):
I agree with enilra

 
 
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RE: OAG Changes 6/26/2015: DL SEA-MSO+CUN/US/UA/AA

Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:19 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
UA IAD-BUF NOV 2>1.0
UA IAD-SAV NOV 3>2
UA IAD-SYR NOV 4>3

I'm used to seeing drops in flights in SYR, and lately, UA has had 2x daily SYR-IAD, but I had no idea they flew fewer flights to BUF which is a much larger market.

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