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Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:47 am

I know that Thai Airways has either discontinued or will discontinue flying to LAX because the route is and has been a loss-making one for quite some time, or so I have been told. My question however, is why couldn't Thai serve LAX with the 787? The aircraft has proven to be very successful serving long, thin routes. I know that this obviously would not be a nonstop flight, but they could still operate one-stop service through KIX. The 787 is a highly capable and efficient aircraft, and I believe that this could have actually worked for Thai. What am I missing here? Any Thoughts?

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Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:53 am

Thailand is a low-yielding market with insufficient F/J demand to make such long flights work. TG would do better to focus on shorter sectors such as Asia, Europe and Oceania and leave its customers in North America connect through NRT, PEK or PVG.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:16 am

Quoting Thomaas (Reply 1):
TG would do better to focus on shorter sectors such as Asia, Europe and Oceania and leave its customers in North America connect through NRT, PEK or PVG.

Not to mention ICN.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:07 am

Because they don't want to incinerate money. I see TG abandoning LAX entirely, like MH, and strengthening its relationship with a TPAC partner.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:15 pm

Wouldn't it make some sense for TG to switch to the one world alliance and feed North American traffic to CX and JAL and European to QR? With SQ being so close to them, I never understood why they joined Star?
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:32 pm

Can ME3 fly via east Asia to US?
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:43 pm

The 787-8 doesn't have the range.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:50 pm

Quoting PVG (Reply 4):
Wouldn't it make some sense for TG to switch to the one world alliance and feed North American traffic to CX and JAL and European to QR? With SQ being so close to them, I never understood why they joined Star?

You think CX would allow TG into OW  

Why Star - TG had long historic links with several early members and it was great opportunity to be the sole Far-East founding member of Star back in 1997.
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:45 pm

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 6):
The 787-8 doesn't have the range.

Via its current routing through KIX, it does.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:49 pm

Quoting caleb1 (Thread starter):
My question however, is why couldn't Thai serve LAX with the 787? The aircraft has proven to be very successful serving long, thin routes

A good question. At this time they are using a 30J/262Y 77E BKK-ICN-LAX. Why not a 24J/240Y 788 in its place? An 85% load factor on the 77E is equivalent to ~ 94% on the 788. The LAX-ICN westbound leg , with the same payload, the 77E fuel burn would be ~94t and for the 788 ~ 59t, for a savings of about $16800 at present prices.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:51 pm

Like others have said, the yields are too low.

There are tons of connections available via NRT or ICN not only to BKK, but to other regional Thai cities as well as Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam and Myanmar, years ago you would have had to connect to them via BKK.

From the East Coast of the U.S. You can use the ME3 or several European carriers as well.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:08 pm

Quoting caleb1 (Reply 8):
Via its current routing through KIX, it does.

True. I assumed the OP meant nonstop.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:48 pm

Quoting spinkid (Reply 10):
From the East Coast of the U.S. You can use the ME3 or several European carriers as well.

People from the West Coast (SEA, SFO, LAX) use EK to get to BKK (etc) -- it's the long way around but the price is right.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:04 pm

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 12):
Quoting spinkid (Reply 10):
From the East Coast of the U.S. You can use the ME3 or several European carriers as well.

People from the West Coast (SEA, SFO, LAX) use EK to get to BKK (etc) -- it's the long way around but the price is right.

If TG is competing for the low yielding traffic that will go to EK, then they certainly should end the route. Going via DXB adds 3,000 miles to the route. While some will do it, the people looking for low fare options are just as likely to fly the Chinese airlines. Hainan, Air China, China Southern & China Eastern usually have fares that are very comparable to EK, but have much more direct routes. Even Asiana, Korean and Eva can compete on price and usually on service as well. There are plenty of premium airline options like Cathay Pacific, ANA, etc.

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 9):

A good question. At this time they are using a 30J/262Y 77E BKK-ICN-LAX. Why not a 24J/240Y 788 in its place? An 85% load factor on the 77E is equivalent to ~ 94% on the 788. The LAX-ICN westbound leg , with the same payload, the 77E fuel burn would be ~94t and for the 788 ~ 59t, for a savings of about $16800 at present prices.

The route costs are very high. Staffing LAX, four crews for the roundtrip, and all the regulations associated with flying to the United States is going to cost so much that a 787 is not going to earn enough to cover the costs of infrastructure.
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:14 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 13):
There are plenty of premium airline options like Cathay Pacific, ANA, etc

Whats your definition of premium, because you seem to have excluded Korean and Asiana from it.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:53 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 14):

He wrote etc... that means other airlines are included.
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:21 pm

Quoting caleb1 (Thread starter):
I know that Thai Airways has either discontinued or will discontinue flying to LAX

Not sure anyone knows what the status of that is, currently.

Quoting caleb1 (Thread starter):
I know that this obviously would not be a nonstop flight, but they could still operate one-stop service through KIX.

They already have a 1stop via ICN, not sure if the market will take the added capacity.

Quoting PVG (Reply 4):
I never understood why they joined Star?

You have it backwards: TG is a founding member of Star... SQ joined knowing that TG was in.
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Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:56 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 13):
The route costs are very high. Staffing LAX, four crews for the roundtrip, and all the regulations associated with flying to the United States is going to cost so much that a 787 is not going to earn enough to cover the costs of infrastructure

But it is some dollars ahead of the 77E unless it is significantly undersized for the route. The savings I quoted was for only 12-hrs of an about 32.5 hrs. in-the--air round trip. Annualized this is about $16.6m
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:24 am

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 15):

If you notice he mentioned Korean and Asiana separately, along with the Chinese and Taiwanese bunch as well as Thai, and then called ANA, Catahy etc as premium carriers, I thought any airline with F and/or a superior J class is premium.
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:38 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 18):

People don't like to repeat or add a lot so ETC... is usually covering that.
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:44 am

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 19):

I would prefer to hear it from the horses mouth, because it seems some carriers are superior to others even if they are quality ones.
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:08 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 20):
because it seems some carriers are superior to others even if they are quality ones.

That's normal, and also it depends on the experience of the travelers, sometimes you have an excellent experience one one flight but on the return flight with the same airline, not so much.
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:13 am

I was under the impression that TG might cancel North America (LAX) together with a few European(BRU/MAD to name a few) cities to cut losses and focus on Asia pacific
But downgrading thailand safety ratings by ICAO had impacted their North Asia expansion though.
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:50 am

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 12):
People from the West Coast (SEA, SFO, LAX) use EK to get to BKK (etc) -- it's the long way around but the price is right.

What?! EK seriously beats prices to BKK while adding 3000 miles?!


If TG were to do west coast nonstop it would probably be SFO rather than LAX with a 789, due to range. It's a high demand destination, at least in terms of Y, though I'd be willing to bet that it's pretty popular with J travellers too, so a 2 class ought to do it.

But as others have said it probably won't happen. Too many lower cost options to BKK without adding much time or hassle (ICN or HKG are the most direct) on 5 star carriers. And of course Thailand losing its rating. Of course, it is just about Ultra Long Haul, which TG might not be able to handle.

Is TG even that close to UA in terms of codeshares? That'd be essential to making LAX or SFO work at all.
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:23 am

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 12):

Quoting spinkid (Reply 10):
From the East Coast of the U.S. You can use the ME3 or several European carriers as well.

People from the West Coast (SEA, SFO, LAX) use EK to get to BKK (etc) -- it's the long way around but the price is right.

I've never gotten a better price (even close) to SE Asia on EK from SFO (not saying it can't happen). And i've never met anyone who has flown them to SE Asia from SFO. They make sense for Africa or India (though there are still a good number of pax in my experience flying SQ even though it requires minimum of 2 stops to India).
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:39 am

Be careful Thailand is not just beaches and... other leisure things.

There is a lot of business and it's a gate to countries like Myanmar where there is a lot going on. Yields can be pretty high. The problem is that the demand from the US comes from many points. Passengers would have to make one stop somewhere... translate : through DXB, DOH, HKG etc.

So the problem for the US is not that the yields are low but that the competition is high.

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 13):
The route costs are very high. Staffing LAX, four crews for the roundtrip, and all the regulations associated with flying to the United States is going to cost so much that a 787 is not going to earn enough to cover the costs of infrastructure.

Absolutely. Unlike CX, EK etc. TG does not have the connecting traffic to spread the total costs across many pax.
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:50 am

Quoting Aither (Reply 25):

So the problem for the US is not that the yields are low but that the competition is high.

I think that there's definitely good business traffic to BKK, but the real issue is that the distances are higher. (And the ICAO rating is lower)
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:48 am

Yes its a no brainer for TG to downgrade their current LAX service from an aging B772ER to a B788 which will result in an overall cost savings of approximately $3000 per flying hour with marginal seating capacity lost.

BKK-ICN-LAX is 18 hours flying time per direction so per round trip flight, the cost savings for TG using the B788 instead of the B772ER is $ 108,000 approximately which is quite significant !
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:34 pm

Quoting behramjee (Reply 27):
Yes its a no brainer for TG to downgrade their current LAX service from an aging B772ER to a B788 which will result in an overall cost savings of approximately $3000 per flying hour with marginal seating capacity lost.

BKK-ICN-LAX is 18 hours flying time per direction so per round trip flight, the cost savings for TG using the B788 instead of the B772ER is $ 108,000 approximately which is quite significant !

I am not questioning the $3000 per hour cost saving. But what source have you found that provides the information that allows you to arrive at this amount?
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:04 pm

Quoting dank (Reply 24):
I've never gotten a better price (even close) to SE Asia on EK from SFO (not saying it can't happen).

Ok, I know several people who on 2 or 3 trips to Thailand in the last couple of years have flown EK out of SEA -- with fewer transpacs from SEA than SFO/LAX it probably worked out -- I shouldn't have assumed SFO/LAX would be similar.
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:14 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 14):
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 13):
There are plenty of premium airline options like Cathay Pacific, ANA, etc

Whats your definition of premium, because you seem to have excluded Korean and Asiana from it.

Korean and Asiana do not compete with the premium airlines from BKK to the USA because they do not offer decent connections. All of Asiana's flights to ICN are redeyes from BKK which results in a 12 hour layover. KE has a morning departure, but it only connects to their last ICN-LAX flight of the day. For what it is worth, Asiana has a rather poor business class product on some of their flights. Asiana and Korean don't really compete for high yielding traffic to BKK from the United States. Their schedule is based on O/D from Korea the the propensity for Koreans to prefer red eye flights.

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Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:20 pm

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 29):

Quoting dank (Reply 24):
I've never gotten a better price (even close) to SE Asia on EK from SFO (not saying it can't happen).

Ok, I know several people who on 2 or 3 trips to Thailand in the last couple of years have flown EK out of SEA -- with fewer transpacs from SEA than SFO/LAX it probably worked out -- I shouldn't have assumed SFO/LAX would be similar.

That would make sense. From SFO there is a ton of competition trans pac primarily through ICN, TYO, TPE, and HK that does a decent job of keeping the prices reasonable. India on the other hand, is a more challenging market, there are a bunch of equally poor ways of getting there (connections through Europe, connections through the Middle East which are now heating up now that Etihad/Jet are flying to SFO, and through E and SE Asia.

The weirdest one I've seen, though recently is TK advertising flights to China through IST. Talk about going the long way around.

[Edited 2015-06-25 11:21:27]
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:32 pm

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 11):
True. I assumed the OP meant nonstop.

OP said specifically that he wasn't expecting a non-stop, but rather a one stop via KIX, not sure what you read then.

Quoting S75752 (Reply 23):
What?! EK seriously beats prices to BKK while adding 3000 miles?!
Quoting dank (Reply 24):
I've never gotten a better price (even close) to SE Asia on EK from SFO (not saying it can't happen). And i've never met anyone who has flown them to SE Asia from SFO.

I was looking at LAX-SYD fares for an upcoming trip & at one point a month ago, QR was lower than QF, no lie. I was absolutely amazed, the trip via DOH added another day to the trip, although the connecting times were pretty good both ways. I am not sure how many people may go via DOH from LAX to SYD, but it even amazes me they publish a fare, let alone a competitive one.
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Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:27 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 32):

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 11):
True. I assumed the OP meant nonstop.

OP said specifically that he wasn't expecting a non-stop, but rather a one stop via KIX, not sure what you read then.

Quoting S75752 (Reply 23):
What?! EK seriously beats prices to BKK while adding 3000 miles?!
Quoting dank (Reply 24):
I've never gotten a better price (even close) to SE Asia on EK from SFO (not saying it can't happen). And i've never met anyone who has flown them to SE Asia from SFO.

I was looking at LAX-SYD fares for an upcoming trip & at one point a month ago, QR was lower than QF, no lie. I was absolutely amazed, the trip via DOH added another day to the trip, although the connecting times were pretty good both ways. I am not sure how many people may go via DOH from LAX to SYD, but it even amazes me they publish a fare, let alone a competitive one.

QR does not fly DOH-SYD.
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:12 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 32):
I was looking at LAX-SYD fares for an upcoming trip & at one point a month ago, QR was lower than QF, no lie.

I'm curious how you found a QR fare LAX-SYD since they don't fly to LAX and they don't fly to SYD. They start LAX service in January 2016.

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[Edited 2015-06-25 18:14:32]
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:45 am

Quoting behramjee (Reply 27):
Yes its a no brainer for TG to downgrade their current LAX service from an aging B772ER to a B788

Unless they've changed or will change it, TG hasn't had the 77E at LAX in a long while. For months they've been opping 77W.
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Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:45 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 34):
I'm curious how you found a QR fare LAX-SYD since they don't fly to LAX and they don't fly to SYD. They start LAX service in January 2016.
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Wow, what a gaff on my part, I'm sure lucky that you were here to correct me. I looked at so many fares that day it was confused in my mind & bless your little heart here you came along to question what I mentioned knowing so well I had made an obvious error.

I meant EY, it wasn't EK. I extend my sincerest apologies to those who have been inconvenienced by my error in the carrier code I incorrectly used originally, I understand it has caused anguish to some & misery to others, we must be thankful for those who are here pointing these things out, yet adding no further value to the thread, it makes the A.net experience far less enjoyable.



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Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:42 am

FYI, for all the US based members, price for one-stop BKK-USA on QR, EK, EY starting at $950 from BKK.
You can also find these sale fares almost year-round.

The only cheaper fares could be found on mainland-China's carriers, mainly to LAX.
China Eastern Airlines, China Southern Airlines, Air China e.g.

The via-east-asia-cities mindset is long gone. The invasion of ME3 carriers is too large.
Wait till ME3 comes to all your hub cities. Then DXB, DOH, AUH will be a place well known/traveled for you.
Let's just blame it on yields.
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:12 am

Quoting nethkt (Reply 37):
FYI, for all the US based members, price for one-stop BKK-USA on QR, EK, EY starting at $950 from BKK.
You can also find these sale fares almost year-round.

The only cheaper fares could be found on mainland-China's carriers, mainly to LAX.
China Eastern Airlines, China Southern Airlines, Air China e.g.

The via-east-asia-cities mindset is long gone. The invasion of ME3 carriers is too large.
Wait till ME3 comes to all your hub cities. Then DXB, DOH, AUH will be a place well known/traveled for you.

If you're from the East Coast, yes. It doesn't matter which way around you go. If you're from the west coast, not just LAX, it's still primarily a through eastern Asia routing. For example, in November (picking a random wednesday-wednesday roundtrip) the best i get on Etihad is $1308 and Emirates $1297, with total travel times around 25 - 31 hours. China Southern, China Eastern, Cathay, EVA, China Airlines, Air China, JAL, United, ANA, Philippines Air can all get me there under 900 bucks and most of them substantially faster (plus a bunch of two stop flights that can still beat either Etihad or Emirates in time and price). This type of pricing has been typical of any time i've looked for and booked flights to southeast asia out of SFO.
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:14 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 34):
Quoting RWA380 (Reply 32):
I was looking at LAX-SYD fares for an upcoming trip & at one point a month ago, QR was lower than QF, no lie.

I'm curious how you found a QR fare LAX-SYD since they don't fly to LAX and they don't fly to SYD. They start LAX service in January 2016.

Probably LAX-DOH-PER-SYD on QR/QF. QR don't fly to BNE but I can fly BNE-Europe on QR with QF connections.
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:53 pm

Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 39):
Probably LAX-DOH-PER-SYD on QR/QF. QR don't fly to BNE but I can fly BNE-Europe on QR with QF connections.

They also don't fly to LAX.
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:15 pm

Quoting dank (Reply 40):

Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 39):
Probably LAX-DOH-PER-SYD on QR/QF. QR don't fly to BNE but I can fly BNE-Europe on QR with QF connections.

They also don't fly to LAX.

LAX-DOH begins January 1, 2016.
 
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Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:27 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):

Why not? Even if TG was a founding member of a Star, many yrs have passed, the situation has changed. If it makes business sense now, why wouldn't they do it?
 
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Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:20 am

Quoting behramjee (Reply 27):
Yes its a no brainer for TG to downgrade their current LAX service from an aging B772ER to a B788 which will result in an overall cost savings of approximately $3000 per flying hour with marginal seating capacity lost. BKK-ICN-LAX is 18 hours flying time per direction so per round trip flight, the cost savings for TG using the B788 instead of the B772ER is $ 108,000 approximately which is quite significant !

What about using HNL as the US gateway city, in addition to these measures, and have partner UA feed it as a code-share? The flight would obviously be shorter, and less expensive to fly.

This might be a better alternative than stopping service to the USA altogether. Especially when it is not certain when(and now much more)cutting of flight schedules MH will do.
 
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RE: Thai Airways, The 787, And LAX- Why Not?

Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:08 am

Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 35):
Unless they've changed or will change it, TG hasn't had the 77E at LAX in a long while. For months they've been opping 77W.

Its been 772ER for at least over a month now, seen it come into LAX about 1.5 hrs or so ago and its a 772ER.
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RE: Thai Airways, The 787, And LAX- Why Not?

Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:04 am

Do TG 787s even have crew rest facilities to make them suitable for longhaul services?

From listing I see online they really only operate intra Asia-Pacific segments, not too long haul.
http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/...ner-fly-march-2015-network-update/

Also from article TG said it intended 787s to supplement A330s regionally
http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...s-thai-wing-to-operate-a320s-53282

Quoting ATA L1011 (Reply 44):
Its been 772ER for at least over a month now, seen it come into LAX about 1.5 hrs or so ago and its a 772ER.

  

Its been back to a 772 since end of March.

The 77W did not last long on LAX run.
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RE: Thai Airways, The 787, And LAX- Why Not?

Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:09 am

it won't work

CX flies 4 times a day to LAX
and 6-7 daily to BKK depending on the season

and that is just one of the many options to the west coast
 
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RE: Thai Airways, The 787, And LAX- Why Not?

Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:45 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 45):
The 77W did not last long on LAX run.

It's scheduled to come back with the winter schedule effective late October..... 

Funny how a lot of people is making such case for Thai to stop LAX but yet they still fly here and have not publicly announced any plans to stop......

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RE: Thai Airways, The 787, And LAX- Why Not?

Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:04 am

I have travelled short and long haul on the 787 on three carriers and by far my worst experience was on TG's flights.
The seat pitch was 32" and the seat itself had little recline and felt like concrete. Multiple long flights on UA's 787s have been much, much more comfortable. I can't imagine travelling long haul on TG's 787s in Y.
 
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RE: Thai Airways, The 787, And LAX- Why Not?

Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:25 am

Quoting The777Man (Reply 47):
Funny how a lot of people is making such case for Thai to stop LAX but yet they still fly here and have not publicly announced any plans to stop......

The question is whether it's profitable which I doubt. I doubt any TG routes to North America have ever been profitable on a long-term basis.

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