Haven't seen it posted yet, if so, please delete.

Looks like AC is having some serious cancellations this mornign due to 300 fuelers not showing up to work. Seems to be due to AC switching fuel suppliers.


http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015...ancels-pearson-flights-friday.html

I am surprised this started now. I would imagine maximum disruption and effect would be during arrival of athletes and organizers of the Pan Am games, which I believe begins next week.




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Quoting diverted (Thread starter): Looks like AC is having some serious cancellations this mornign due to 300 fuelers not showing up to work. Seems to be due to AC switching fuel suppliers.

Right from the article, this is affecting all airlines at YYZ. From the YYZ website, the following flights are cancelled:

AIR CANADA AC7468 NEWARK Jul 3, 06:30
AIR CANADA AC440 OTTAWA Jul 3, 07:00
AIR CANADA AC1979 ABBOTSFORD Jul 3, 07:55
AIR CANADA AC123 EDMONTON Jul 3, 08:00
AIR CANADA AC8910 QUEBEC Jul 3, 08:00
AIR CANADA AC7306 HARTFORD Jul 3, 08:00
AIR CANADA AC690 ST.JOHN'S Jul 3, 08:05
AIR CANADA AC7823 TIMMINS Jul 3, 08:15
AIR CANADA AC7364 PHILADELPHIA Jul 3, 08:15
WESTJET WS703 VANCOUVER Jul 3, 08:15
AIR CANADA AC7241 SARNIA Jul 3, 08:15
AIR CANADA AC7803 SUDBURY Jul 3, 08:15
AIR CANADA AC702 NEW YORK-LGA Jul 3, 08:15
AIR CANADA AC8946 SAINT JOHN Jul 3, 08:20
AIR CANADA AC7891 COLUMBUS,OH Jul 3, 08:30
AIR CANADA AC7483 DALLAS/FT.W Jul 3, 08:30
AIR CANADA AC7751 WINDSOR Jul 3, 08:30
AIR CANADA AC7901 CLEVELAND Jul 3, 08:35
AIR CANADA AC7323 CINCINNATI Jul 3, 08:35
AIR CANADA AC7346 CHARLOTTE Jul 3, 08:40
AIR CANADA AC8021 DETROIT Jul 3, 08:50
AIR CANADA AC8034 PITTSBURGH Jul 3, 09:00
AIR CANADA AC404 MONTREAL Jul 3, 09:00
AIR CANADA AC444 OTTAWA Jul 3, 09:10
AIR CANADA AC7985 ST. LOUIS Jul 3, 09:15
AIR CANADA AC261 WINNIPEG Jul 3, 10:00
AIR CANADA AC1975 KELOWNA Jul 3, 10:00

and delayed:

AIR CANADA AC1860 ORLANDO Jul 3, 08:15 Jul 3, 11:00 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC1851 LAS VEGAS Jul 3, 08:45 Jul 3, 12:15 Delayed
FLY JAMAICA AIRWAYS OJ146 GEORGETOWN Jul 3, 09:00 Jul 3, 11:00 Delayed
WESTJET WS2616 PUERTO PLATA Jul 3, 09:05 Jul 3, 12:55 Delayed
AMERICAN AA3452 NEW YORK-LGA Jul 3, 09:19 Jul 3, 10:15 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC7284 SYRACUSE Jul 3, 09:20 Jul 3, 10:35 Delayed
WESTJET WS1116 LAS VEGAS Jul 3, 09:50 Jul 3, 10:15 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC7335 CHARLOTTETOWN Jul 3, 09:55 Jul 3, 10:50 Delayed
US AIRWAYS US3847 PHILADELPHIA Jul 3, 09:57 Jul 3, 10:40 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC1197 FORT MCMURRAY Jul 3, 10:00 Jul 3, 10:30 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC175 EDMONTON Jul 3, 10:00 Jul 3, 10:55 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC015 HONG KONG Jul 3, 10:00 Jul 3, 10:50 Delayed
WESTJET WS433 EDMONTON Jul 3, 10:00 Jul 3, 10:20 Delayed
WESTJET WS2754 NASSAU Jul 3, 10:05 Jul 3, 10:35 Delayed
WESTJET WS2612 VARADERO Jul 3, 10:05 Jul 3, 10:30 Delayed
DELTA DL5031 ATLANTA Jul 3, 10:12 Jul 3, 10:34 Delayed
WESTJET WS603 REGINA Jul 3, 10:15 Jul 3, 10:30 Delayed
PHILIPPINE AIRLINES PR1931 VANCOUVER Jul 3, 10:15 Jul 3, 10:45 Delayed
JAPAN AIRLINES JL5807 VANCOUVER Jul 3, 10:15 Jul 3, 10:45 Delayed
WESTJET WS2702 MONTEGO BAY Jul 3, 10:15 Jul 3, 10:40 Delayed
WESTJET WS707 VANCOUVER Jul 3, 10:15 Jul 3, 10:45 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC1105 VANCOUVER Jul 3, 10:30 Jul 3, 10:45 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC7825 TIMMINS Jul 3, 10:35 Jul 3, 11:00 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC8950 SAINT JOHN Jul 3, 10:40 Jul 3, 10:55 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC791 LOS ANGELES Jul 3, 10:45 Jul 3, 11:10 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC1804 MONTEGO BAY Jul 3, 10:45 Jul 3, 11:05 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC7397 CHICAGO-O'HARE Jul 3, 10:45 Jul 3, 10:55 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC7380 BOSTON Jul 3, 11:05 Jul 3, 11:45 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC448 OTTAWA Jul 3, 11:10 Jul 3, 11:25 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC7252 KINGSTON,ON Jul 3, 12:00 Jul 3, 12:25 Delayed
DELTA DL4938 ATLANTA Jul 3, 12:00 Jul 3, 12:29 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC8623 ATLANTA Jul 3, 14:15 Jul 3, 15:15 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC8840 AUSTIN Jul 3, 14:25 Jul 3, 14:50 Delayed
AIR CANADA AC420 MONTREAL Jul 3, 17:00 Jul 3, 17:10 Delayed

Mostly Air Canada, but not exclusively....

it appears not that some flight are departing and heading to neighbouring airports to fuel up and
continue onto their destinations. a handful of WestJet Encore and Air Canada flights have come to or are on
there way to YHM. I am sure that a few have headed to BUF and YOW as well.

Quoting fly_yhm (Reply 3): it appears not that some flight are departing and heading to neighbouring airports to fuel up

Indeed, just seen WS667 YYZ-YYC land at YHM. AC161 YYZ-YVR departed a few minutes ago.

Quoting fly_yhm (Reply 3): it appears not that some flight are departing and heading to neighbouring airports to fuel up and continue onto their destinations. a handful of WestJet Encore and Air Canada flights have come to or are on there way to YHM. I am sure that a few have headed to BUF and YOW as well.

I can confirm this as well. I live in Windsor, Ontario and my house is right under the approach to runway 25 (the longest runway here with an ILS)

I already saw two Air Canada A320s

AC177 Toronto - (Windsor) - Edmonton
AC125 Toronto - (Windsor) - Calgary

I have a feeling there will be more. From what I understand, the fueling company told its employees that they will not have a job (or a guarantee for a job) once AC switchers providers and a great number of fuelers in YYZ have called in sick.

Quoting fly_yhm (Reply 3): I am sure that a few have headed to BUF and YOW as well.

And you'd be correct, at least for BUF:

AC 793 YYZ-LAX: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...3/history/20150703/2220Z/CYYZ/KBUF
AC 739 YYZ-SFO: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...9/history/20150703/2235Z/CYYZ/KBUF
MQ 3120 YYZ-LGA: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/E...0/history/20150703/1759Z/CYYZ/KBUF
EV 4645 YYZ-EWR: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...5/history/20150703/1910Z/CYYZ/KBUF
OO 6217 YYZ-DEN: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...7/history/20150703/1955Z/CYYZ/KBUF

Both AC and WS flying a handful of YYZ-YHM-YYC and YYZ-YHM-YEG.

Damn...I'm flying into YYZ on Sunday...hope things don't get too FUBARd

I'm not really following it but I heard they'd been ordered back to work. Shouldn't take too long to get it cleared up. What a rough week for WS, pretty messy at customer service in YYZ at the moment as I've got a buddy stuck there.

Somebody asked the agent, "Why don't we just try to fly as far as we can with the fuel leftover from the last flight?"

It was announced that Air Canada, and probably WestJet and Air Transat are switching refuelling company to Swissport starting July 1, and that the contract with the Consortium is ended. Today is July 3, so are the missing fueling agents are of Swissport or Allied?

I was on DL 2320 YYZ - ATL. Did a gas and go at DTW -- and then a messed up head count cost us another 30 min. Arrived nearly 4 hours late in ATL

I was one of the few lucky ones as I could snag a late connection home in ATL

Cabin crew were great -- worked VERY hard to help everybody .. they and some deadheads were also seriously messed up by the idiot strikers

Wild cat strikes are ILLEGAL. Fuelers who walked off -- did you get that? The infamous Don Jail is not a very nice place .. so I hope you enjoy it ..

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 10): It was announced that Air Canada, and probably WestJet and Air Transat are switching refuelling company to Swissport starting July 1, and that the contract with the Consortium is ended. Today is July 3, so are the missing fueling agents are of Swissport or Allied?

July 1 was the changeover in yul to Swissport.

The YYZ contract changes hands Oct 1 to asig

Swissport may hire some ex-Consortium workers... if they want, because they were unionized, which is not the case with Swissport i guess. Any idea what is their hourly rate? What about ASIG?

it was a mess today. I'm now stuck in Edmonton YEG because rental cars close at midnight latest. This is how it started off for me today:

original flight: YYZ-YEG @ 18:25 on an A320; new flight:20:40 on an A321 (newer one btw).

Got a text at 16:04 stating that my flight has been cancelled due to "ticketing issue." After calling customer service they explained the situation.

At the gate at 19:30 for 20:10 boarding. Aircraft from YYC not at the gate. Came in at 20:10 or so. They said to give them 20 mins for boarding to commence. Nothing happened. Meanwhile captain came out and told them to update the departure time, now 21:25. We ere told that we will be making a tech stop in Hamilton to fill up or wait several hours at Toronto to be fueled.

20:45 or so, boarding begins.

21:30 or so still sitting at the gate. Update from flight-deck, "since this is an unusual flight for us, we have to feed the computer, calculate performance etc."

22:00 or so we leave the gate for the 58 km flight; my shortest to date (the only interesting thing of the evening for me). ETA would be 22:42, so lets go with that for the arrival time.

22:42 landed and what seemed like full reverse thrust and full breaking. Still ended up at the ens of the runways and made a u-turn and backtracked. Pilot backtracked on the runway very fast, put a great deal of power to get the plane moving. parked away from terminal.

23:15-ish refueling begun. We were told it would be about 45 mins. 35-40 mins later we were told there was about 500 kilos to go.

00:20 or around then we took-off. Flight time 3hrs 40 mins.

04:07 Toronto time (02:07 local), arrived YEG. I have nothing better to do now that write this post.

Quoting skymiler (Reply 11): Wild cat strikes are ILLEGAL. Fuelers who walked off -- did you get that? The infamous Don Jail is not a very nice place .. so I hope you enjoy it .

Pretty interesting position... I'm guessing that you don't know what the underlying causes for today's actions are.

I talked to several flight crews at YYZ today, and as you can understand - they were all inconvenienced in some way - and they were all in FULL SUPPORT of the fuellers - take that to mean whatever you want...


Pretty interesting that you want someone who is about to lose their job, through no fault of their own, to go to jail
 

Quoting skymiler (Reply 11): Wild cat strikes are ILLEGAL. Fuelers who walked off -- did you get that? The infamous Don Jail is not a very nice place .. so I hope you enjoy it ..

Really?! The Don Jail has been closed since 1977 and the east wing was closed in 2013. You think that this warrants jail time? Their frustrated and probably upset over losing their jobs.

Quoting tribird1011 (Reply 15): Pretty interesting position... I'm guessing that you don't know what the underlying causes for today's actions are. I talked to several flight crews at YYZ today, and as you can understand - they were all inconvenienced in some way - and they were all in FULL SUPPORT of the fuellers - take that to mean whatever you want...

Ding Ding. Who cares how screwed up the flights are, you're losing your jobs so ASIG can pay junk. When I worked at YOW, ASIG was more or less begging people to work for them. I remember hearing from their employees that they'd offer various gift cards for showing up for their shifts.

It's funny because you hear time and time again that the race to the bottom is ruining pilot wages. Well guess what, it's affecting everybody in this industry. I don't blame them for not showing up either. Hopefully they can't staff their operation at $14 an hour.

Pay peanuts, get monkies.

14 bucks to fuel an airplane, drive a pedler or a tank truck... in winter conditions and the stress of the next one waiting to be refuelled... is very cheap. It's not worth the effort. It's a plane to refuel, not a joke. Rate should be 20 and up. Don't know how much it pays in Western Canada... where salaries are known to be better

Quoting tribird1011 (Reply 15): Pretty interesting position... I'm guessing that you don't know what the underlying causes for today's actions are.

Quoting brilondon (Reply 16): Really?! The Don Jail has been closed since 1977 and the east wing was closed in 2013. You think that this warrants jail time? Their frustrated and probably upset over losing their jobs.

Couple of things ....

Labour laws are labour laws -- I am a former teamster from MANY years ago and whatever one may think of that organisation and/or the laws, we were told to follow the law EXACTLY. And, yes, I have been in a similar position to the affected employees so I took matters into my own hands and found a better job at a competitor, taking advantage of the experience I had gained

I am aware that the Don jail as been gone a long time (I grew up in Hamilton), that it was not a nice place, and was the place for executions at one time -- was just making a point

As a flight crew I am in full support of unionized workers. I have many friends who fuel planes for a living and I have nothing but respect for them. They are always working on a skeleton crew and if someone is sick or can't come to work that day, the others have to work twice as hard. Oil prices have not gone down, the prices at FBOs have not gone down (I mean geez, $200 for a GPU start? Are you kidding me?), so where can companies cut cost? Salaries.

Anyway, I hope these poor souls who worked hard eventually find something better.

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 18): Don't know how much it pays in Western Canada... where salaries are known to be better

Less than $17/hr in YEG.

Quoting canadianpylon (Reply 2): Right from the article, this is affecting all airlines at YYZ. From the YYZ website, the following flights are cancelled: AIR CANADA AC7468 NEWARK Jul 3, 06:30 AIR CANADA AC440 OTTAWA Jul 3, 07:00 AIR CANADA AC1979 ABBOTSFORD Jul 3, 07:55 AIR CANADA AC123 EDMONTON Jul 3, 08:00 AIR CANADA AC8910 QUEBEC Jul 3, 08:00 AIR CANADA AC7306 HARTFORD Jul 3, 08:00 AIR CANADA AC690 ST.JOHN'S Jul 3, 08:05 AIR CANADA AC7823 TIMMINS Jul 3, 08:15 AIR CANADA AC7364 PHILADELPHIA Jul 3, 08:15 AIR CANADA AC7241 SARNIA Jul 3, 08:15 AIR CANADA AC7803 SUDBURY Jul 3, 08:15 AIR CANADA AC702 NEW YORK-LGA Jul 3, 08:15 AIR CANADA AC8946 SAINT JOHN Jul 3, 08:20 AIR CANADA AC7891 COLUMBUS,OH Jul 3, 08:30 AIR CANADA AC7483 DALLAS/FT.W Jul 3, 08:30 AIR CANADA AC7751 WINDSOR Jul 3, 08:30 AIR CANADA AC7901 CLEVELAND Jul 3, 08:35 AIR CANADA AC7323 CINCINNATI Jul 3, 08:35 AIR CANADA AC7346 CHARLOTTE Jul 3, 08:40 AIR CANADA AC8021 DETROIT Jul 3, 08:50 AIR CANADA AC8034 PITTSBURGH Jul 3, 09:00 AIR CANADA AC404 MONTREAL Jul 3, 09:00 AIR CANADA AC444 OTTAWA Jul 3, 09:10 AIR CANADA AC7985 ST. LOUIS Jul 3, 09:15 AIR CANADA AC261 WINNIPEG Jul 3, 10:00 AIR CANADA AC1975 KELOWNA Jul 3, 10:00

Quoting canadianpylon (Reply 2): and delayed: AIR CANADA AC1860 ORLANDO Jul 3, 08:15 Jul 3, 11:00 Delayed AIR CANADA AC1851 LAS VEGAS Jul 3, 08:45 Jul 3, 12:15 Delayed AIR CANADA AC7284 SYRACUSE Jul 3, 09:20 Jul 3, 10:35 Delayed AIR CANADA AC7335 CHARLOTTETOWN Jul 3, 09:55 Jul 3, 10:50 Delayed AIR CANADA AC1197 FORT MCMURRAY Jul 3, 10:00 Jul 3, 10:30 Delayed AIR CANADA AC175 EDMONTON Jul 3, 10:00 Jul 3, 10:55 Delayed AIR CANADA AC015 HONG KONG Jul 3, 10:00 Jul 3, 10:50 Delayed AIR CANADA AC1105 VANCOUVER Jul 3, 10:30 Jul 3, 10:45 Delayed AIR CANADA AC7825 TIMMINS Jul 3, 10:35 Jul 3, 11:00 Delayed AIR CANADA AC8950 SAINT JOHN Jul 3, 10:40 Jul 3, 10:55 Delayed AIR CANADA AC791 LOS ANGELES Jul 3, 10:45 Jul 3, 11:10 Delayed AIR CANADA AC1804 MONTEGO BAY Jul 3, 10:45 Jul 3, 11:05 Delayed AIR CANADA AC7397 CHICAGO-O'HARE Jul 3, 10:45 Jul 3, 10:55 Delayed AIR CANADA AC7380 BOSTON Jul 3, 11:05 Jul 3, 11:45 Delayed AIR CANADA AC448 OTTAWA Jul 3, 11:10 Jul 3, 11:25 Delayed AIR CANADA AC7252 KINGSTON,ON Jul 3, 12:00 Jul 3, 12:25 Delayed AIR CANADA AC8623 ATLANTA Jul 3, 14:15 Jul 3, 15:15 Delayed AIR CANADA AC8840 AUSTIN Jul 3, 14:25 Jul 3, 14:50 Delayed AIR CANADA AC420 MONTREAL Jul 3, 17:00 Jul 3, 17:10 Delayed

AC has 10 flights per day to YHZ, surprised to see YHZ not on the list....

Quoting skymiler (Reply 19): I have been in a similar position to the affected employees so I took matters into my own hands and found a better job at a competitor

And here's part of the problem...

if you're a fueller ay YYZ, good luck finding a "competitor"!!

I can't speak for ASIG's Canadian operations, but at DTW fuelers make roughly $9.00-$10.00 an hour. Hardly more than minimum wage.