User avatar
Qatara340
Topic Author
Posts: 1686
Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 2:07 am

Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:28 pm

Qatar Airways announced a seventh daily flight to London Heathrow. The seventh daily flight will not operate daily and will operate on selected days per week. This is to note that the A319 all business-class flight will be discontinued and replaced by .787.

Also to be noted that Qatar Airways has started to refurbish the A333 into fully flat horizontal beds similar to the A319, and has started flying that configuration to selected places.

Source: airlineroute
لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله
 
cedarjet
Posts: 8615
Joined: Mon May 24, 1999 1:12 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:35 pm

When does the A319 end?
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
 
User avatar
TedToToe
Posts: 626
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:43 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:43 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 1):

When does the A319 end?

The 788 replaces the A319 from 25th October this year

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...-end-a319-all-business-lhr-service
 
kaitak
Posts: 9758
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 1999 5:49 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:48 pm

Fingers crossed for a 350 on the seventh flight!

Saw the planned winter schedule and was surprised to see a 346 still operating the early morning departure from DOH. Thought that had been reconfigured to a high density layout for use on flights to Asia.
 
User avatar
Qatara340
Topic Author
Posts: 1686
Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 2:07 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:59 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 3):
Fingers crossed for a 350 on the seventh flight!

Saw the planned winter schedule and was surprised to see a 346 still operating the early morning departure from DOH. Thought that had been reconfigured to a high density layout for use on flights to Asia.

Actually we will see a cocktail of A380s (twice daily), 77W (once), A333 (twice daily), A346 (sometimes twice daily), and B787 (once daily). These schedules are of course subject to change--- we might see the A350's somewhere in the mix later in the future.
لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله
 
cedarjet
Posts: 8615
Joined: Mon May 24, 1999 1:12 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:03 am

A340-600s are about to get the high density config with ~370 seats and just fly to CGK KUL and MNL, so get ready to say goodbye to LHR. Will be greatly missed, I think of the 346 as a QR signature. At least they're keeping them in the fleet.
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
 
LGWGate49
Posts: 122
Joined: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:45 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:04 am

I guess that might explain why the previously rumoured Gatwick service never resumed.

[Edited 2015-07-03 18:06:34]
Look for the ridiculous in everything, and you will find it
 
UAEflyer
Posts: 1231
Joined: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:29 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:27 am

What is the timing for the new flight ?
Where they got the slot from ?
 
sq_ek_freak
Posts: 1180
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2000 4:48 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:44 am

How is the 7th daily flight not daily? How many times weekly do they plan to operate?

And what will happen to the biz only A319, will they be deployed elsewhere or will they be reconfigured to the normal QR layout?
Keep Discovering
 
irregking
Posts: 64
Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:51 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:47 am

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 7):
Where they got the slot from ?

Yup, really want to know who they bribed... err sorry... who they purchased that slot from?   
Worked on: A300,310,319,320,321,332,333,342,343,346,380,B732/3/4/5,744,DC10 -- Currently working on: A380 only
 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Posts: 9554
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:20 am

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 7):
What is the timing for the new flight ?
Where they got the slot from ?

Looking at the schedule, the new flight (QR11/12) arrives and departs LHR different times each day it operates, perhaps they have got the slot off BA.

QR009 DOH0140 – 0620LHR 388 D
QR011 DOH0225 – 0705LHR 346 3
QR011 DOH0420 – 0900LHR 346 6
QR011 DOH0510 – 0950LHR 346 1
QR007 DOH0635 – 1105LHR 77W D
QR011 DOH0700 – 1140LHR 346 5
QR003 DOH0745 – 1225LHR 388 D
QR001 DOH1250 – 1730LHR 333 D
QR015 DOH1555 – 2025LHR 788 D
QR005 DOH1720 – 2200LHR 333 D

QR006 LHR0800 – 1750DOH 333 D
QR010 LHR0830 – 1815DOH 388 3
QR010 LHR0850 – 1835DOH 388 5
QR010 LHR0900 – 1845DOH 388 24
QR010 LHR0905 – 1850DOH 388 167
QR012 LHR1100 – 2045DOH 346 6
QR012 LHR1205 – 2150DOH 346 1
QR012 LHR1225 – 2210DOH 346 3
QR004 LHR1415 – 2359DOH 388 D
QR008 LHR1505 – 0040+1DOH 77W D
QR012 LHR1625 – 0210+1DOH 346 5
QR002 LHR2030 – 0615+1DOH 333 D
QR016 LHR2155 – 0735+1DOH 788 D
Forum Moderator
 
nethkt
Posts: 1025
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2001 10:27 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:07 am

So all the A330-300 will have the British Aerospace's diamond seats?
Just like those on UA, Aeroflot, Air China, THAI 787?
Do you know where could I find the reliable info about the retrofitted 330-300?
Many thanks.
Let's just blame it on yields.
 
User avatar
ro1960
Posts: 1184
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:19 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:34 am

Quoting Qatara340 (Thread starter):
Qatar Airways announced a seventh daily flight to London Heathrow. The seventh daily flight will not operate daily

A daily flight that doesn't operate daily ?
  
You may like my airport photos:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/aeroports
 
factsonly
Posts: 2727
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:08 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:50 am

Quoting Qatara340 (Reply 4):
Actually we will see a cocktail of A380s (twice daily), 77W (once), A333 (twice daily), A346 (sometimes twice daily), and B787 (once daily). These schedules are of course subject to change--- we might see the A350's somewhere in the mix later in the future.

Fleet planning remains an art not all airlines master.
 
toby25
Posts: 115
Joined: Mon May 19, 2008 1:28 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:01 am

Quoting ro1960 (Reply 12):
A daily flight that doesn't operate daily ?

lol I read that as well and was like ... have I just woken up or am I missing something?
Seriously dude! I swear!
 
ojas
Posts: 1190
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:23 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:15 am

The net change is that QR has increased the frequency from 42 weekly to 46 weekly. QR 009/010 and QR 011/012 were 4 per week and 3 per week respectively. QR 009/010 got 3 new weekly flights making it a daily standard schedule coupled with an upgrade to a A380. QR 011/012 gets an additional flight and is operated at assorted timings given whatever slots they hold.

QR 015/016 is upgraded from an A319 all J to B788.
Great leaders don't tell you what to do ... they show you how it's done!
 
rutankrd
Posts: 3025
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2003 6:08 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:21 am

Quoting nethkt (Reply 11):
So all the A330-300 will have the British Aerospace's diamond seats?

No not all just the sub fleet of three used on LHR-AND Doha - International (DOH / OTBD), Qatar">DOH flights QTR5 and 6 I'd expect.
The flight overnights in Heathrow and the same aircraft usually flies a sector to Pakistan or Clark (Philippines) in between.

They are frames A7-AEA, AEB AND AEC.
 
rutankrd
Posts: 3025
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2003 6:08 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:23 am

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 7):
Where they got the slot from ?

Random time slots are still available.
 
behramjee
Posts: 5006
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2003 4:56 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:12 pm

Too much excess capacity deployed by QR to LHR in my opinion. Best is to have stuck to a normal standardized 6 daily operation which is more than enough.
 
User avatar
TedToToe
Posts: 626
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:43 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:37 pm

Quoting behramjee (Reply 18):

Too much excess capacity deployed by QR to LHR in my opinion. Best is to have stuck to a normal standardized 6 daily operation which is more than enough.


Is anybody able to add up their daily or weekly seat capacity and compare with EK's 5 x A388? Also, is QR more premium heavy? From an operational point of view, it does seem slightly wasteful. Having said that, they are obviously in it for the long term and picking up so many slots gives them a lot of scope for growth.

[Edited 2015-07-04 05:44:18]
 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Posts: 9554
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:55 pm

Quoting TedToToe (Reply 19):
Is any body able to add up their daily or weekly seat capacity and compare with EK's 5 x A388? Also, is QR more premium heavy

Ive roughly work seat capacity out on a weekly though if I have the wrong configurations please let me know

2 daily A333 (12F24J225Y) total of 168F336J3150Y (3654 seats)
4 weekly A346 (8F42J260Y) total of 32F168J1040Y (1240 seats)
2 daily A388 (8F48J461Y) total of 112F672J6454Y (7238 seats )
1 daily 77W (42J293Y) total of 294J2051Y (2345 seats )
1 daily 788 (22J232Y) total of 154J1624Y (1778 seats)

Grand total of 312F1624J14319Y total of 16255 seats

EK operate 5 daily A388 14F76J427Y
total of 490F2660J14945J total of 18095 Seats

Note: I have used the higher density EK A388 configuration
Forum Moderator
 
BlueShamu330s
Posts: 2584
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2001 3:11 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:40 pm

Quoting irregking (Reply 9):

Yup, really want to know who they bribed... err sorry... who they purchased that slot from?   


Who would they bribe and why would they need to bribe and what makes you think Qatar Airways are in the market for bribing people for slots when LHR slots are freely available, unless you have some verifiable evidence?

Can we have a thread for once about one of the ME3 without it descending into baseless accusations?

Rgds
Flying around India
 
Planeflyer
Posts: 1445
Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:49 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 4:13 pm

Quoting BlueShamu333s

Can we have a thread for once about one of the ME3 without it descending into baseless accusations?

My sentiments as well.
 
User avatar
Qatara340
Topic Author
Posts: 1686
Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 2:07 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 4:48 pm

Quoting qf789 (Reply 20):
Ive roughly work seat capacity out on a weekly though if I have the wrong configurations please let me know

2 daily A333 (12F24J225Y) total of 168F336J3150Y (3654 seats)
4 weekly A346 (8F42J260Y) total of 32F168J1040Y (1240 seats)
2 daily A388 (8F48J461Y) total of 112F672J6454Y (7238 seats )
1 daily 77W (42J293Y) total of 294J2051Y (2345 seats )
1 daily 788 (22J232Y) total of 154J1624Y (1778 seats)

Grand total of 312F1624J14319Y total of 16255 seats

EK operate 5 daily A388 14F76J427Y
total of 490F2660J14945J total of 18095 Seats

Note: I have used the higher density EK A388 configuration


Nice work! I think the A333 will be the newly configured ones, for which we do not know the exact configurations.
لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله
 
migair54
Posts: 2429
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:24 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:39 pm

Quoting qf789 (Reply 20):
Grand total of 312F1624J14319Y total of 16255 seats

EK operate 5 daily A388 14F76J427Y
total of 490F2660J14945J total of 18095 Seats

It is very impressive, if you add there AUH, 10-15 years the market was very small, it´s one of the fastest long haul markets in the world for sure.

It is interesting the see the big difference in the F and J between both but I think slowly QR will be adding more seat in that categories, I went to LHR a couple of weeks ago with QR and both flights were very full in all the cabins, and I was told that LHR are always like that, one was in A346 and the other in A380, the interior of the A380 is great, but the A340 is really getting worn out, last time I flew to BOM it was in much better condition.

Quoting Planeflyer (Reply 22):
Can we have a thread for once about one of the ME3 without it descending into baseless accusations?

Same here, we can´t waste out time discussing that.

Quoting behramjee (Reply 18):
Too much excess capacity deployed by QR to LHR in my opinion. Best is to have stuck to a normal standardized 6 daily operation which is more than enough.

One of the biggest markets in the world, I am sure they are doing a well planned move, I think the A319 was really a waste of a slot, but maybe they did to kept it until they get more planes. I also think that LGW is big and wealthy catchment area and it could work nice if the timing is good, QR should try, maybe using the A350 could make some extra publicity for the route.

Quoting factsonly (Reply 13):
Fleet planning remains an art not all airlines master.

It is crazy job, and crewing the planes is quite complicated also.
 
afriwing
Posts: 88
Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:39 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:40 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 5):
A340-600s are about to get the high density config with ~370 seats and just fly to CGK KUL and MNL, so get ready to say goodbye to LHR

Many will be salivating at the thought of QR replacing one of these A346 rotations with an A350 (wishful thinking I know). Though it will be sad to see the beautiful -600s go.
Afriwings
 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Posts: 9554
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:08 pm

Quoting migair54 (Reply 24):
It is very impressive, if you add there AUH, 10-15 years the market was very small, it´s one of the fastest long haul markets in the world for sure.

QR
2 daily A333 (12F24J225Y) total of 168F336J3150Y (3654 seats)
4 weekly A346 (8F42J260Y) total of 32F168J1040Y (1240 seats)
2 daily A388 (8F48J461Y) total of 112F672J6454Y (7238 seats )
1 daily 77W (42J293Y) total of 294J2051Y (2345 seats )
1 daily 788 (22J232Y) total of 154J1624Y (1778 seats)

Grand total of 312F1624J14319Y total of 16255 seats

EK operate 5 daily A388 14F76J427Y
total of 490F2660J14945J total of 18095 Seats

EY currently operates 3 daily flights (have gone off schedule for past week)

1 daily 77W (8F40J282Y) total of 56F280J1974Y (2310 seats)
2 weekly A346 (12F32J248Y) total of 24F64J496Y (584 seats)
12 weekly A388 (9F70J415Y) total of 108F840J4980Y (5928 seats)

Total of 188F1184J7450Y total of 8822 seats
Forum Moderator
 
migair54
Posts: 2429
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:24 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:23 pm

Quoting qf789 (Reply 26):

And we forgot BA and VS, but if we count only the ME3:

24 Residence
990 First class seats
5468 Business class seats
36714 Economy class seat
 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Posts: 9554
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:06 pm

Quoting migair54 (Reply 27):
And we forgot BA and VS, but if we count only the ME3:

24 Residence
990 First class seats
5468 Business class seats
36714 Economy class seat

VS
daily A333 (33J48W185y) to DXB total of 231J336W1295 (1862 seats)

BI
daily 788 (18J236Y) to DXB total of 126J1652Y (1778 seats)

QF
2 daily A388 (14F64J35W371Y) total of 196F896J490W5194Y (6776 seats)

BA
2 daily 744 (14F70J30W185Y) to DXB total of 196F980J420W2590Y (4186 seats)
daily 772 (17F48J24W127Y) to AUH which continues onto MCT total of 119F336J168W889Y (1512 seats)
daily 772 (17F48J24W127Y) to DOH via BAH total of 119F336J168W889Y (1512 seats)

In total
24 Residence
1620 First Class
8373 Business Class
1582 Premium Economy
49223 Economy

Total Seats 60822 a week
Forum Moderator
 
anjin
Posts: 70
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:49 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:17 pm

Quoting irregking (Reply 9):
Yup, really want to know who they bribed... err sorry... who they purchased that slot from?

No need for this, slots are highly regulated by a independent Company. QR are doing well great airline to fly with
 
directorguy
Posts: 1380
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:58 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:35 pm

Does anyone know if QR codeshares with BA and AA from Heathrow? It's very strange that QR is flying 7 times a day into a major oneworld hub without more integration with the home airline.
 
User avatar
lightsaber
Moderator
Posts: 18666
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:55 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:50 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 26):
QR
2 daily A333 (12F24J225Y) total of 168F336J3150Y (3654 seats)
4 weekly A346 (8F42J260Y) total of 32F168J1040Y (1240 seats)
2 daily A388 (8F48J461Y) total of 112F672J6454Y (7238 seats )
1 daily 77W (42J293Y) total of 294J2051Y (2345 seats )
1 daily 788 (22J232Y) total of 154J1624Y (1778 seats)

Grand total of 312F1624J14319Y total of 16255 seats

EK operate 5 daily A388 14F76J427Y
total of 490F2660J14945J total of 18095 Seats

EY currently operates 3 daily flights (have gone off schedule for past week)

1 daily 77W (8F40J282Y) total of 56F280J1974Y (2310 seats)
2 weekly A346 (12F32J248Y) total of 24F64J496Y (584 seats)
12 weekly A388 (9F70J415Y) total of 108F840J4980Y (5928 seats)

Total of 188F1184J7450Y total of 8822 seats

Wow. I had no idea QR was approaching EK's seats at LHR. That is impressive. And shows EK needs another daily slot pair.   Although EK does have a substantial presence at LGW...

I do wonder when we'll see the ME3 (or TK) at STN or LTN? Eventually their hubbing operations would support serving such a secondary airport. Probably with a small widebody in a 2-class arrangement (with low J seat count). e.g., EK's 78Js or A359s (to be announced).

Lightsaber
IM messages to mods on warnings and bans will be ignored and nasty ones will result in a ban.
 
bbbb
Posts: 63
Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:43 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:14 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 31):
Wow. I had no idea QR was approaching EK's seats at LHR. That is impressive. And shows EK needs another daily slot pair.   Although EK does have a substantial presence at LGW...

The schedules for this week show QR is operating somewhere closer to 14000 seats and thats a high point for them. The numbers calculated by qf789 for EK are broadly correct though, so there's still a bit of a gap (not huge but a bit bigger than quoted). EK are operating more than double the premium seats than QR are though.
 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Posts: 9554
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:43 am

Quoting bbbb (Reply 32):
The schedules for this week show QR is operating somewhere closer to 14000 seats and thats a high point for them. The numbers calculated by qf789 for EK are broadly correct though, so there's still a bit of a gap (not huge but a bit bigger than quoted). EK are operating more than double the premium seats than QR are though.

Just to clarify the numbers I quoted for QR are their new schedule effective 25th of October 2015
Forum Moderator
 
migair54
Posts: 2429
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:24 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:46 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 31):
I do wonder when we'll see the ME3 (or TK) at STN or LTN? Eventually their hubbing operations would support serving such a secondary airport. Probably with a small widebody in a 2-class arrangement (with low J seat count). e.g., EK's 78Js or A359s (to be announced).

it has been discussed before, but I still think the area can´t work with a big jet, the only real option I see it´s TK with a B738 or A320, did QR or EK cargo ever serve STN??

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 31):
Although EK does have a substantial presence at LGW...

LGW is "only" 2 daily A380 (1 think wihout First) and 1 B77W.

Quoting directorguy (Reply 30):
Does anyone know if QR codeshares with BA and AA from Heathrow? It's very strange that QR is flying 7 times a day into a major oneworld hub without more integration with the home airline.

The relationship is not that close, even BA flies to DOH but via BAH, so making transfer to QR not very attractive with the stop in BAH, maybe they should do LHR-DOH-BAH,
 
User avatar
TedToToe
Posts: 626
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:43 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:23 am

Quoting migair54 (Reply 34):
The relationship is not that close, even BA flies to DOH but via BAH, so making transfer to QR not very attractive with the stop in BAH, maybe they should do LHR-DOH-BAH,

The British expat population is greater in Bahrain than it is in Qatar*, so I would imagine more passengers are travelling to and from BAH. On this basis, it isn't as simple as altering the route. Maybe in the future, we will see the flights separated; a 77A to BAH and a 789 to DOH, for example, with a QR codeshare for onward connections.

*source Wiki!
 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Posts: 9554
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:29 am

Quoting migair54 (Reply 34):
did QR or EK cargo ever serve STN??

QR currently flies both the 77F and 33F to STN, not sure about EK

Quoting migair54 (Reply 34):
LGW is "only" 2 daily A380 (1 think wihout First) and 1 B77W

All 3 flights are 3 class
Forum Moderator
 
TC957
Posts: 3621
Joined: Wed May 23, 2012 1:12 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:03 am

I can't help thinking QR only grabbed these extra slots at LHR to stop EK getting them and adding a 6th flight.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 31):
I do wonder when we'll see the ME3 (or TK) at STN or LTN?

The possibility of this has been discussed on previous threads. Personally, I surprised EK doesn't have a STN service if only to serve the horse racing community.
 
BlueShamu330s
Posts: 2584
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2001 3:11 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:01 pm

Quoting qf789 (Reply 26):
QR
2 daily A333 (12F24J225Y) total of 168F336J3150Y (3654 seats)
4 weekly A346 (8F42J260Y) total of 32F168J1040Y (1240 seats)
2 daily A388 (8F48J461Y) total of 112F672J6454Y (7238 seats )
1 daily 77W (42J293Y) total of 294J2051Y (2345 seats )
1 daily 788 (22J232Y) total of 154J1624Y (1778 seats)

Grand total of 312F1624J14319Y total of 16255 seats

EK operate 5 daily A388 14F76J427Y
total of 490F2660J14945J total of 18095 Seats

EY currently operates 3 daily flights (have gone off schedule for past week)

1 daily 77W (8F40J282Y) total of 56F280J1974Y (2310 seats)
2 weekly A346 (12F32J248Y) total of 24F64J496Y (584 seats)
12 weekly A388 (9F70J415Y) total of 108F840J4980Y (5928 seats)

Total of 188F1184J7450Y total of 8822 seats

What strikes me is how these three carriers now dominate the LHR - Gulf route whilst Gulf Air, the originator and once the de facto carrier to the region, has just two A332s daily to Bahrain.

How the mighty falcon has had her wings clipped.  

Rgds
Flying around India
 
rutankrd
Posts: 3025
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2003 6:08 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:11 pm

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 38):
hat strikes me is how these three carriers now dominate the LHR - Gulf route whilst Gulf Air, the originator and once the de facto carrier to the region, has just two A332s daily to Bahrai

Tragic diminution of such a once revered brand.

And its worse than that. An A320 is often substituted these days.
 
stylo777
Posts: 2752
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:32 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:40 pm

If I'm not mistaken, TK used to fly to STN for some time a few years ago. They also serve LGW of course, but STN is a different market (lowcost) thus only served by LCC carriers from Turkey so far.
 
ytz
Posts: 3529
Joined: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:31 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:09 pm

QR should pick up 1-2 CS100s and fly all J to LCY....
 
rutankrd
Posts: 3025
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2003 6:08 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:17 pm

Quoting YTZ (Reply 41):
QR should pick up 1-2 CS100s and fly all J to LCY....

Why ?

Who in the City and Canary Wharf needs to go via Doha to anywhere ?

Those financiers typically want to go to a rather narrow group of destinations in reality

Frankfurt, Geneva, Paris and New York with the diamond mob to Rotterdam and Antwerp.

Only Hong Kong is really missing and remind me how many times a day are Cathay and BA connecting the two from Heathrow ?
 
stylo777
Posts: 2752
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:32 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:24 pm

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 42):

Often there is no obvious reasoning and answer to the "why's", but something like a signature LCY offer might also create demand. 10 years back if somebody would have asked "why 7x daily a380 ek/qf plus ba/vs/bi, etc and so many flights between lhr and doh" I'm sure nobody would have been able to answer that "why"; however, all those carriers and in particular ek, qr and to a lessor extend ey put the offer on the market and create(d) the demand.

On a regular Sunday like today, ek offers 70/380/2.107 = total 2.557 seats from lhr to dxb. At the same time they were able to sell 45/351/1.792 = total 2.188 of those seats. I believe this is huge and shows how offer can create demand. (Actual numbers btw)

Therefore, I also see potential for "unusual/extraordinary" ideas such as the CSeries to LCY.
 
LondonCity
Posts: 1069
Joined: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:57 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:01 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 31):
I do wonder when we'll see the ME3 (or TK) at STN or LTN? Eventually their hubbing operations would support serving such a secondary airport. Probably with a small widebody in a 2-class arrangement (with low J seat count). e.g., EK's 78Js or A359s (to be announced).

It was discussed five years ago. But nothing has happened so far.


http://www.arabianbusiness.com/emira...r-a380-stansted-launch-308492.html
 
User avatar
lightsaber
Moderator
Posts: 18666
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:55 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:12 pm

Quoting bbbb (Reply 32):
EK are operating more than double the premium seats than QR are though.

That is a huge delta. EK is doing well with premium from LHR by all references I've been able to find.

Quoting migair54 (Reply 34):
but I still think the area can´t work with a big jet, the only real option I see it´s TK with a B738 or A320, did QR or EK cargo ever serve STN??

EK has done 'with a big jet' where many said they couldn't. The airport is 'ready enough.' I'm not thinking start with an A388, but rather the 78J or A359.

But there is a chance that the market will initially be serviced with FlyDubai with a two class -8 MAX. The promised range is there...
http://www.aspireaviation.com/2012/0...the-ante-in-dogfight-with-a320neo/

Quoting migair54 (Reply 34):
LGW is "only" 2 daily A380 (1 think wihout First) and 1 B77W.

*Only*?    That is about half EK's LHR seat count. It is significant and worthy of discussion when discussing expansion to London.

Quoting TC957 (Reply 37):
I surprised EK doesn't have a STN service if only to serve the horse racing community.

I'm surprised on multiple counts.

Quoting LondonCity (Reply 44):
It was discussed five years ago. But nothing has happened so far.

It won't happen until it does. Then we'll see the flights. Or they'll leave it to TK.    Nothing to get excited about, it is simply an opportunity that I see.

If QR is expanding, it makes me wonder why EK isn't expanding at LHR...


Lightsaber
IM messages to mods on warnings and bans will be ignored and nasty ones will result in a ban.
 
smokeybandit
Posts: 1232
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:24 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:37 pm

How is a daily flight daily if it's not daily?
 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Posts: 9554
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:16 am

QR has revised their schedule and will now operate the 6 daily flights, QR11/12 will not operate as previously planned and the A346 will no longer operate to LHR

http://airlineroute.net/2015/07/05/qr-lhr-w15update3/
Forum Moderator
 
BlueShamu330s
Posts: 2584
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2001 3:11 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:23 am

Quoting TC957 (Reply 37):
Personally, I surprised EK doesn't have a STN service
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 45):
I'm surprised on multiple counts.

Patience.  
Flying around India
 
speedbird128
Posts: 1562
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2003 2:30 am

RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7th Daily LHR Flight

Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:29 am

Quoting Qatara340 (Thread starter):
The seventh daily flight will not operate daily
Quoting smokeybandit (Reply 46):
How is a daily flight daily if it's not daily?

Qatar airways speak for "mine is longer than yours"...
A306, A313, A319, A320, A321, A332, A343, A345, A346 A388, AC90, B06, B722, B732, B733, B735, B738, B744, B762, B772, B7

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos