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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:25 am

United employees, invited guests, VIPs, and other industry press insiders are getting a very early sneak look at ORD at the A-350 because the airplane is en route to the annual Oshkosh air show in Wisconsin


http://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/n...ak-its-newest-model.html?ana=yahoo
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:53 am

Quoting StTim (Reply 44):
Quoting jcwr56 (Reply 40):

A damn shame too. Fly it on for a "tour" and get buried as far from view to everyone as possible

I don't think Airbus are flying to the US to show off the bird to AV Geeks (apart from OshKosh) it is to show to customers and potential customers who want to see it under the skin as well.

I'm not disputing what you're saying. You're missing the point though, this is a new bird UA is buying and you'd think UA would want to show it off. Look at the picture above, ATL (DL) places it at the concourse, ORD, (UA) a remote hangar.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:24 am

Quoting jcwr56 (Reply 51):
Look at the picture above, ATL (DL) places it at the concourse, ORD, (UA) a remote hangar.

She will be in a hangar at DL TechOps for most of the visit to ATL as well. The only reason the plane was brought to a gate was so that all on board could clear customs.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:56 pm

Quoting FlyBigDeltaJets (Reply 52):

As my flight to SFO was taxiing passed TechOps yesterday evening, I was able to catch a glimpse of her inside the hanger with the red doors, as I could just make out the markings on the rear fuselage! There was only about a ten foot opening between the hangar doors!
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:06 pm

Quoting jcwr56 (Reply 51):
I'm not disputing what you're saying. You're missing the point though, this is a new bird UA is buying and you'd think UA would want to show it off.

Show off a plane that has absolutely no UA livery on it, and not even any UA titles on it? Most people are not going to see the plane and go "wow look at United's (or Delta's) new plane!"

Hence why once everyone clears customs both airlines are just parking it in and by hangars.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:59 pm

Quoting Polot (Reply 54):
Hence why once everyone clears customs both airlines are just parking it in and by hangars.

I doubt the airlines are the ones deciding where to park it. This is Airbus' tour and I bet they're parking it wherever it's most convenient/cheapest to accomplish their goal (interior tours with airline reps and other partners).
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:31 pm

I'll have to wait for QR to start flying DOH-BOS to see this beaut
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:31 pm

This tour is only for a select few. Saw it today at the TOC inside bay 10. The tail was sticking out so they could run the apu, likely for a/c. Us common folk were only allowed to stand in a little roped off area forward of the plane. I didn't even bother with a picture. The light was really bad from that angle. Too bad they would not let us walk around the outside even.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:33 pm

Got to tour it today. Absolutely amazing. Can't wait for Delta to get some.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:32 am

Quoting BravoEchoNov (Reply 58):
Got to tour it today. Absolutely amazing. Can't wait for Delta to get some.

Very, very, very jealous.

Why is it going to Newark as well as Chicago? And why Milwaukee?
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:56 am

Naturally, this is not 100%, but here we go.............
ORD to MKE July 18th - eta late AM.
MKE to OSH July 20th - etd mid afternoon.
OSH to MKE July 22nd - etd mid afternoon.
MKE to TLS July 22nd - etd early evening.
Sorry, but not authorized to release exact times.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:33 am

Quoting 777X (Reply 59):
Why is it going to Newark as well as Chicago? And why Milwaukee?

Atlanta - DL
Newark - UA
Chicago - AA (assuming this is correct, I'm surprised it's not DFW)
Milwaukee (Osh Kosh) - Air Show

Also got the opportunity to walk through her today. Beautiful bird. Can't wait to see those engines at TechOps...

[Edited 2015-07-14 18:35:05]

[Edited 2015-07-14 18:35:32]
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:59 am

Quoting Dalmd88 (Reply 57):
Us common folk were only allowed to stand in a little roped off area forward of the plane.

When Boeing brought N7771 to DL in 1996, everyone could walk through the cabin and the engines were open for inspection. Test flights were also conducted with invited guests.
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:14 pm

The A350 is online in Atlanta and preparing for its flight to Newark!

In other news, AirwaysNews ran a piece this morning on the Americas tour.

http://airwaysnews.com/blog/2015/07/...-a350-xwb-visits-delta-in-atlanta/
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:38 pm

Quoting 777X (Reply 59):
And why Milwaukee?
Quoting FlyBigDeltaJets (Reply 61):
Milwaukee (Osh Kosh) - Air Show

AirVenture is at OSH, not MKE. It's apparently spending a couple of days there and a couple of days before that at MKE. So same question: why Milwaukee?
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:41 pm

Quoting hivue (Reply 65):
why Milwaukee?

During flight performance Airbus can only have two pilots and two engineers onboard. The aircraft will be in Milwaukuee to drop off the 30-40 Airbus employees going to Oshkosh. They will drive to Oshkosh from Milwaukee.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:08 pm

Quoting BravoEchoNov (Reply 66):
During flight performance Airbus can only have two pilots and two engineers onboard. The aircraft will be in Milwaukuee to drop off the 30-40 Airbus employees going to Oshkosh. They will drive to Oshkosh from Milwaukee.

Will it ever land at OSH or will it just take off from Milwaukee, do the flight demonstration over OSH, and then go back to MKE?

Because if it was going to land in OSH, it seems to me that it would make more sense to drop off the employees there instead of MKE.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:47 am

Since it is doing flying displays at OSH, I'm sure its more than just people that need to be dropped off.

While on the tour, I'm sure they are carrying AOG equipment, catering and other additional supplies and baggage for those other Airbus employees. I sure they remove all non necessary equipment from the aircraft while performing those aggressive airshow maneuvers.

It's better to remove and store those items in MKE than OSH.

Just a thought.
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:07 am

Quoting hivue (Reply 65):
AirVenture is at OSH, not MKE. It's apparently spending a couple of days there and a couple of days before that at MKE. So same question: why Milwaukee?

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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:30 am

Quoting Dalmd88 (Reply 57):
This tour is only for a select few. Saw it today at the TOC inside bay 10. The tail was sticking out so they could run the apu, likely for a/c. Us common folk were only allowed to stand in a little roped off area forward of the plane. I didn't even bother with a picture. The light was really bad from that angle. Too bad they would not let us walk around the outside even.

I agree. The Airbus security guards are just a little too proud of their company's new invention to the point that they turned me off to their new product. From what I witnessed many of the tour invitees fit a skinny low cut dress quite well as well the welcome on-board Airbus hostess. Dog and Pony show at the least. Would have liked to have some of the freebies handed out though. Just another flying machine to be had. Not impressed. XWB= ability to add another seat to the row.

[Edited 2015-07-16 00:50:15]
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:33 am

Quoting 777X (Reply 67):
Will it ever land at OSH or will it just take off from Milwaukee, do the flight demonstration over OSH, and then go back to MKE?

Yes it will land in Oshkosh. It will be on static display for two days with tours given.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:58 am

A small update, this aircraft will be gated at B16 upon arrival at ORD this morning then eventually moving to UA's hangar.

ORD's in a westflow configuration currently, so hopefully they'll be landing 28C then taking the tour route of ORD. But knowing UA, they'll press the Feds for 27L so it's an easy landing and taxi into the B gates.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:21 pm

A new video from Airbus about the first half of their tour: South America

http://amp.twimg.com/v/3d0f41e7-89cc-4cec-a0fe-f80f2e92ffca
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:38 pm

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 73):
A new video from Airbus about the first half of their tour: South America

Great. Thanks for sharing.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:05 pm

Big version: Width: 960 Height: 720 File size: 114kb


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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:50 am

I briefly saw the 350 at EWR: July 15, 2015.
She's a beauty !

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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:02 am

Quoting thebatman (Reply 37):
No, we were talking about ORD. The A350 will be at the UA hangar at ORD on 7/17.

I don't often quote myself, but here she is...

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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:12 pm

I saw the A350 in DUB last week. It's a beautiful aircraft, but I'm looking forward to the stretched version. Hopefully with bogies similar to the 777 (same tilt, 6 wheels)
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:30 pm

Is the paintjob on the rear and the tail a reference to carbon fibre?
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:37 pm

Quoting andz (Reply 79):
Is the paintjob on the rear and the tail a reference to carbon fibre?

Yes it is. I think even the registration (F-WWCF) is a reference to carbon fibre?
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:44 pm

Quoting GavinSharp (Reply 55):
I doubt the airlines are the ones deciding where to park it. This is Airbus' tour and I bet they're parking it wherever it's most convenient/cheapest to accomplish their goal (interior tours with airline reps and other partners).

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In that? You're wrong.. Management can say park it here or there. but the Hangar supervisor has the final say because should an emergency arise?? The Hangar Supervisor is responsible for that airplane.
I was the Hanger supervisor at United (SFO) when the A320 first came to visit.
I asked where the towbar was and how to hook it up and got a nasty answer from the Crew and the Airbus rep.
I told them to get it out from in front of the Hanger and I parked it as FAR away as was humanly possible and Brought up a United DC8 to park in that spot.
The airbus crew protested and were told I was doing it for safety reasons. If they didn't like it?
They could park on the SFO visitor ramp.
They changed their "Tune" in a HURRY and we got along fine after that.
Mainly because they would have had to stay with the airplane all night as San Francisco suffers Earthquakes from time to time and that pasrticular spot had a fire hydrant system right near it in case of an emergency.
The 1989 earthquake had only been 18 months before and even though we didn't suffer great damage. We did have some damage and safety was paramount. I speak with the Auirbus reps Daily and we have a great relationship But you have to remember.. They're GUESTS!! . Safety is not a "spectator sport".
Until you own the airplane? You Never want to leave your Butt hanging out and it doesn't matter who's airplane it is or what it's there for.
When the airplane visits ORD and SFO for United to see??.
You're at our house? We make the rules. PERIOD!!
And it would be the same at American or Delta.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:51 pm

Quoting strfyr51 (Reply 81):
Hangar supervisor has the final say

I was talking a bit more generally than "where exactly in the hangar it is parked"  

Of course they will prefer customer (or potential customer) airline facilities (that determined where they even stopped on the tour after all), and of course within those facilities the facility supervisors will be involved. I was just pointing out that this wasn't United's tour, so it isn't United deciding unilaterally whether it stays at a gate or goes to the hangar.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:40 pm

Airbus is also dictating how many people are getting any or all access to the plane. The airline gets to choose who but not how many.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:08 am

From an article I saw on Thursday, this plane did visit EWR, apparently for a show off to UA. it was on BOG the article noted to test ops in high altitude locations.
What will the routes UA will use this new a/c when they get them - maybe in part to replace 777's out of EWR, ORD, LAX and SFO for Asia destinations ?
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:03 am

Here's a video of the A350 taking off from EWR from inside the aircraft:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNprDWsEBxw
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:49 am

A350 at OSH-Engineer Station

A350 at OSH-1


Was at the EAA AirVenture Oshkosh today. Public was able to go in the aircraft. Flight deck was off limits to general public though.
 
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:25 am

"The A350 XWB’s U.S. demo tour"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSzr1bpRf90
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RE: A350 Tour Of The Americas

Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:01 pm

10,000+ visited the plane at OSH because the 10K person received a special grab bag.

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