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Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:08 pm

A Scottish family on vacation was denied boarding Etihad at Manchester check-in because their pale, redheaded daughter appeared "sickly" to the Etihadians. The verdict of an airport medic that she was fine, just a ginger, wasn't sufficient for them. The family had to get a doctor's note in record time so they could take their saved-for-years-to-afford-it vacation.

Then Eithad lost their luggage.

Looks like they have a little work to do on understanding the markets they fly into. Kind of odd that an "international" airline would be so clueless as to the appearance of their customers in different locations. Flying to Copenhagen, "OMG, that's girl's hair is so pale while her skin is so golden! Something must be wrong. She needs a doctor's note."

Anyway, good for a chuckle.

http://nypost.com/2015/07/14/airline...boarding-due-to-white-sickly-skin/

[Edited 2015-07-14 14:14:46]
 
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:24 pm

Was going to post about this.

FWG = flying while ginger.

Good thing they got to the airport so early. They had time to call doctor, get a note faxed, etc.

It sounds silly, but I partly blame it on the childlike behavior of a lot of teens these days. I'm not that old but I never remember ANY of my 14 year old female friends back in the 80s clinging to their Mommies and Daddies like toddlers. But I see it today with my nieces and their friends when there is even a hint of "not feeling good" or simply being tired. It's really pitiful how baby-like some of these kids are. That the EY staff misinterpreted this behavior for an illness isn't that far afield.
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:39 pm

Its odd considering EY already flies to DUB. You'd think they'd see plenty of gingers everyday.
 
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:39 pm

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 1):
But I see it today with my nieces and their friends when there is even a hint of "not feeling good" or simply being tired.

Could be manipulating their pushover parents. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:39 pm

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 1):
It sounds silly, but I partly blame it on the childlike behavior of a lot of teens these days. I'm not that old but I never remember ANY of my 14 year old female friends back in the 80s clinging to their Mommies and Daddies like toddlers. But I see it today with my nieces and their friends when there is even a hint of "not feeling good" or simply being tired. It's really pitiful how baby-like some of these kids are. That the EY staff misinterpreted this behavior for an illness isn't that far afield.

What a silly comment ...
 
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:41 pm

There are a lot of gingers in Syria do they still fly to Damascus? Wonder if that happens there  
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:47 pm

Quoting wjcandee (Thread starter):
Looks like they have a little work to do on understanding the markets they fly into. Kind of odd that an "international" airline would be so clueless as to the appearance of their customers in different locations

But wouldn't much of the check-in staff be local? Perhaps some gingers themselves? Maybe it is as ikramerica said and the young teen, leaning on her mother and doing that "I'm tired" teen act set off some alarm bells.

Not saying they didn't overreact, but there might be more than she was just a ginger.

PS My wife is a redhead, I must remember to tell her to look robust at airports at all times!
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:50 pm

Etihad nor almost any other airline import ground crew from home base to outstations — whoever offloaded this girl was a local, so no cultural misunderstanding. Btw in the pics this girl doesn't look more pale than any other redhead. Although I would be careful in the Maldivian sun if I was that pale.

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Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:55 pm

Quoting thekorean (Reply 2):
Its odd considering EY already flies to DUB. You'd think they'd see plenty of gingers everyday.

Same story with EDI!
 
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:58 pm

There's obviously more to the story than just being ginger, come off it.
 
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:28 pm

Quoting thekorean (Reply 2):
Its odd considering EY already flies to DUB.

They also fly to EDI so, yeah, you'd think they'd seen redheads before. Not to mention, what's the point of an airport doctor if not to provide medical advice to travellers and airlines (who, incidentally, have their own on-call doctors for the ops people to discuss things like this with)?
 
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:39 pm

Quoting wjcandee (Thread starter):
http://nypost.com/2015/07/14/airline...boarding-due-to-white-sickly-skin/

"hot and bothered" must mean something less amusing in the UK.
 
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:41 pm

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 1):
It sounds silly, but I partly blame it on the childlike behavior of a lot of teens these days. I'm not that old but I never remember ANY of my 14 year old female friends back in the 80s clinging to their Mommies and Daddies like toddlers. But I see it today with my nieces and their friends when there is even a hint of "not feeling good" or simply being tired. It's really pitiful how baby-like some of these kids are. That the EY staff misinterpreted this behavior for an illness isn't that far afield.

Tip top old chap, you didn't see that sort of nonsense in my day. Send them to Boarding school - a few games of soggy biscuit with their chums and a stiff beating off Master should render them sufficiently devoid of emotional weakness to make it through an airport terminal unmolested by gentlemen of the commonwealth.
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:42 pm

She looks absolutely fine to me, but well...... for a country that turns you back if look too "flamboyant" what's next? ban all albinos born in sub Saharan Africa?
 
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:44 pm

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 1):
It sounds silly, but I partly blame it on the childlike behavior of a lot of teens these days.

Can't tar them all with the same brush.

I'm a few decades separated from being a teen, but I still remember being annoyed by overgeneralizations about teens.
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:26 am

Quoting BaconButty (Reply 13):

I grew up in the USA and see this in the USA. And it has a lot to do with over protective parents. No independent spirit, no independent thought. One of my nieces is 18 and heading to college and she still acts like this when she is tired or has the sniffles.

Anyway, the article clearly states this exact behavior in the girl. Why all the attacks for RESTATING the facts? Because of a comment about this being a new phenomenon? It's an observation. Get over it.
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:33 am

Quoting wjcandee (Thread starter):
their pale, redheaded daughter appeared "sickly" to the Etihadians.

Etihadians?   
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Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 17):

I guess the author thought that etihad is a country.
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:46 am

The clue is in the article. The passenger was not well and was holding on to her mom. She didn't walk up to the counter on her own and was determined she wasn't fit to fly due to her pale skin. It was her behaviour, coupled with her pale complexion. Etihad has apologised, but it seems this was for their lost luggage and not what happened at check in.

Etihad called for a paramedic to check her out, when he said she was fit they rather wanted a doctor to certify she was okay.

"“Grace was a bit tired and hot and bothered. She was cuddling into her mum in the line,” father Paul Wain told the UK Mirror.
“One of the Etihad check-in girls then made the decision that she wasn’t fit to fly based on the fact she was pale in color and was leaning against her mum.""

"“Staff were concerned about the wellbeing of a young passenger ahead of a lengthy flight. The team called for a medic who examined the child and requested a ‘fit to fly’ letter from a doctor, allowing the family to board. Our team on the ground continued to provide support ahead of the flight. Unfortunately, when the family arrived, some of their baggage was missing. The airline apologized and took all measures to find and deliver the baggage to the Wain family as soon as possible. Compensation in line with standard guidelines will be provided.”"

From the article in the OP, http://nypost.com/2015/07/14/airline...boarding-due-to-white-sickly-skin/
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:25 am

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 1):
It sounds silly, but I partly blame it on the childlike behavior of a lot of teens these days. I'm not that old but I never remember ANY of my 14 year old female friends back in the 80s clinging to their Mommies and Daddies like toddlers. But I see it today with my nieces and their friends when there is even a hint of "not feeling good" or simply being tired. It's really pitiful how baby-like some of these kids are. That the EY staff misinterpreted this behavior for an illness isn't that far afield.

Kid's behavior has nothing to do with this. And just because she was hugging her mother doesn't mean she's sick. Etihad really has no excuse.

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 16):
Anyway, the article clearly states this exact behavior in the girl. Why all the attacks for RESTATING the facts? Because of a comment about this being a new phenomenon? It's an observation. Get over it.

Sure. But a totally off topic observation, as it was in the article itself.
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:00 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 17):
Etihadians?

Hope to meet an 'Etihadian' one day  
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:02 am

I'd be pale and sickly, too, if someone lost my luggage.
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:49 am

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 17):
I guess the author thought that etihad is a country.

Riiight. I thought it was creative. Much less boring than saying "the Etihad ground staff". In my mind, these dopes are forevermore Etihadians.

[Edited 2015-07-14 21:50:50]
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:11 am

There really is something not right here. If you read the original story (UK Daily Mirror http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...fly-teenager-dream-holiday-6045878 ) linked to in the NY Post article, the family:
Live in Scotland
Arrived in Manchester at 4pm for an Etihad flight leaving at 8.20pm
Check-in staff (who would indeed be locals. not UAE citizens) called a paramedic because the girl appeared to be ill.
Obtained fit-to-fly letter from their own doctor , then successfully checked in less than 2 hours before departure.
Now it's impossible to get from Manchester Airport to anywhere in Scotland, visit a specific doctor, and get back again in the time available.
Apparently the doctor didn't (couldn't) examine the person who was certified as fit to fly. Note the weasel words in the scan of the letter "I know of no reason why this patient should not fly". Doesn't say whether they are fit or unfit, does it?
If the whole story is accurate, I can see the medical ethics people getting involved.
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:02 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 16):
Etihadians?

It could be the OP simply meant Etihad employees. For example, Westjet refers to its employees as Westjetters.
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:10 am

Quoting aerolimani (Reply 24):
It could be the OP simply meant Etihad employees.

Come off it - that would be too easy. Sames as many believe Africa is a country.

Quoting wjcandee (Thread starter):
just a ginger

Albeit those Etihadians were likely not locals of the UAE, they should have an understanding of a ginger as it is not an unknown quantity to them. Having lived in the UAE, many aspiring misters have dyed their hair ginger.

They don't on the other hand have the very fair skin and/or blue eyes that usually accompany "gingerness" in the western world. So maybe that stumped them???
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:21 am

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 25):
Albeit those Etihadians were likely not locals of the UAE, they should have an understanding of a ginger as it is not an unknown quantity to them. Having lived in the UAE, many aspiring misters have dyed their hair ginger.

They don't on the other hand have the very fair skin and/or blue eyes that usually accompany "gingerness" in the western world. So maybe that stumped them???

The incident happened in Manchester, where people with naturally ginger hair are far from rare!
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:25 am

Quoting Andy33 (Reply 26):
where people with naturally ginger hair are far from rare!

I get that - I was just complementing that with the fact that red hair is part of their beliefs...
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:45 am

Quoting Andy33 (Reply 23):
Obtained fit-to-fly letter from their own doctor , then successfully checked in less than 2 hours before departure.
Now it's impossible to get from Manchester Airport to anywhere in Scotland, visit a specific doctor, and get back again in the time available.

Looks like it was a scanned letter than email to me, could easily be done in 5 minutes.

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 25):
many aspiring misters have dyed their hair ginger

what is an aspiring mister?
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:48 am

If I was Etihadian I would bar "sickly-looking" Pippi Longstocking family

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Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:59 am

Pretty ridiculous and almost a bit funny until you consider the poor little girls feelings.


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Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:08 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 28):
what is

A bloke (which is a guy, or a man) aspiring to appear like somebody else by altering their appearance, in this case their hair colour... ie by dying my hair red I am aspiring to look like somebody prominent.
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:10 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 28):
Looks like it was a scanned letter than email to me, could easily be done in 5 minutes

Sure, you're right.
But how can a doctor responsibly certify someone as fit to fly without examining them first?
A Manchester-based doctor could have done it easily, including the examination.
But to get the girl home to her own doctor in Scotland, then back to the airport in Manchester again before the check-in closed would be physically impossible in the time available. Yet we are told the certifying doctor was her own doctor in Scotland, so the letter was issued without even sight of the patient.
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:48 am

If check-in stuff only were similarly concerned about lager louts trying to check-in with a couple of pints already tankered before even setting a foot on the airplane...
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:57 am

Quoting aerolimani (Reply 24):
It could be the OP simply meant Etihad employees.

Of course that's what I meant. Just trying to be more colorful than saying "Etihad ground staff" (yawn). A.net thread drift and the percentage of members who have had humorectomies occasionally surprises me. (But the funnier and more-creative-than-I members more than make up for it.)  
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:12 am

Quoting Andy33 (Reply 23):
Apparently the doctor didn't (couldn't) examine the person who was certified as fit to fly. Note the weasel words in the scan of the letter "I know of no reason why this patient should not fly". Doesn't say whether they are fit or unfit, does it?
If the whole story is accurate, I can see the medical ethics people getting involved.

Doubtful. And so what?

The airline-employed medic at the airport could verify the girl's present condition. The only purpose of demanding a doctor's letter would be to verify that her medical history did not contain any concerning underlying conditions, which her family physician certainly could do in the manner that he did.

(More likely, the real purpose was to try to deny boarding for cause to as many folks as possible to avoid paying the European overbooking penalties.)

Are you really suggesting that anybody had any right to demand that the family provide MORE than that? Those aren't weasel words, they are an accurate description of the doctor's opinion, which by its terms could be superceded by anything acute identified by the medic on scene.
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:13 am

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 1):
It sounds silly, but I partly blame it on the childlike behavior of a lot of teens these days. I'm not that old but I never remember ANY of my 14 year old female friends back in the 80s clinging to their Mommies and Daddies like toddlers. But I see it today with my nieces and their friends when there is even a hint of "not feeling good" or simply being tired. It's really pitiful how baby-like some of these kids are. That the EY staff misinterpreted this behavior for an illness isn't that far afield.

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Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:30 am

It is getting ridiculous. Some posters are even defending the behavior of that airline. Next stop is that every passenger has to bring an attest from physician that he or she is able to fly.
Airlines should pay heavy fines for trying to weasel out of the contract they accepted to transport a person.
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:37 am

Quoting Andy33 (Reply 23):
There really is something not right here. If you read the original story (UK Daily Mirror http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...fly-teenager-dream-holiday-6045878 ) linked to in the NY Post article, the family:
Live in Scotland
Arrived in Manchester at 4pm for an Etihad flight leaving at 8.20pm
Check-in staff (who would indeed be locals. not UAE citizens) called a paramedic because the girl appeared to be ill.

Indeed - why was this girl "tired, hot and bothered" at 4pm in the afternoon? That 3-4 hour journey down from Scotland must have really taken it out of her, in which case she's going to struggle on a flight to the Maldives!

Perhaps they should have flown from Edinburgh instead?
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:42 am

Quoting mjoelnir (Reply 37):

It is getting ridiculous. Some posters are even defending the behavior of that airline. Next stop is that every passenger has to bring an attest from physician that he or she is able to fly.

After they refused to accept the diagnosis of the on site health professional and demanded the family doctor fax a letter they crossed the line. I hope the family sues and everyone involved is fired.
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:19 am

I wonder if BA ever denied anyone in the waiting area at Abu Dhabi boarding because they look 'a little radicalised'...

From the pictures, she did not appear sickly, so it must have been the cuddles which was the issue point. I wonder what EY would do if there was a group of redheaded honeymooners engaging in special cuddles whilst waiting for boarding. Perhaps someone should arrange a 'hug-in' at the EY checkin desk as a show of solidarity for this family.
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:25 am

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 39):
After they refused to accept the diagnosis of the on site health professional and demanded the family doctor fax a letter they crossed the line. I hope the family sues and everyone involved is fired.

Agree. I can't understand why they wouldn't accept the on-the-spot diagnosis of someone who had actually examined the girl, and then accept a letter from someone who hadn't. I understand the point about previous medical history, but the doctor's letter isn't worded to say she is fit, just that the doctor knows of no reason why she wouldn't be.Anything could have happened since he last saw her..
Probably a box-ticking exercise - do we have a doctor's letter - yes. Does it say she isn't fit - No. Here's your boarding pass.
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:27 am

Just saw that the news article was New York Post via Fox News...

I suppose we need to take at least the details with a pinch of salt then...
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:29 am

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 39):

After they refused to accept the diagnosis of the on site health professional and demanded the family doctor fax a letter they crossed the line. I hope the family sues and everyone involved is fired.

Agreed. What was the point in calling the airport medical service (paramedic led in Manchester) if they then ignored what they said? I'm sure if the para had said she was unfit to fly they would not have demaned a doctor ratify that decision?! Clearly she wasn't dying so if they intended to ignore the paramedics advice then they basically wasted their time calling them.

Although I imagine the para spoke to the family GP, ran through the results of his/her examination and asked the GP to fax over a letter...at least, thats what I would have done.

Also as others have said, Etihad outsource ground handling at Manchester - Swissport handle them I believe.
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:55 am

Quoting mjoelnir (Reply 37):
It is getting ridiculous. Some posters are even defending the behavior of that airline. Next stop is that every passenger has to bring an attest from physician that he or she is able to fly.
Airlines should pay heavy fines for trying to weasel out of the contract they accepted to transport a person.

So please tell me what her condition was when she checked in? Her father is quoted as saying she was "hot and bothered" and was "cuddling into her mom" at the check in line. I will be honest, if I was flying I would want the airline to check on any passenger that looks a little unwell for a flight. I do not want to be stuck for 8 hours in a tube where someone is sick when they should have been stopped at check-in.

By you saying "that airline", what do you mean exactly?

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 39):
After they refused to accept the diagnosis of the on site health professional and demanded the family doctor fax a letter they crossed the line. I hope the family sues and everyone involved is fired.

And if the plane had to turn around after 2 hours and all the other passengers had to delay their plans because a proper check wasn't done by the airline, I am sure you would ask for them to sue the airline as they weren't doing their job of screening the passengers at check in to make sure they look fine to travel, right?

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 38):
Indeed - why was this girl "tired, hot and bothered" at 4pm in the afternoon? That 3-4 hour journey down from Scotland must have really taken it out of her, in which case she's going to struggle on a flight to the Maldives!

Perhaps they should have flown from Edinburgh instead?

Agreed, it may be that she just felt unwell on the car journey, nothing more. But blaming the airline for ensuring she is fine to travel is a bit much. The photo in the article is also just "slightly" misleading, seeing as it was taken at another location at another time. It doesn't tell us anything other than the girl wears glasses.
 
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RE: Eithad Bars "Sickly-Looking" Ginger From Boarding

Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:12 am

I see the opportunity to bash one of the ME3 has not gone by unexploited by some.

This teenager presented herself at check-in to the local, British check-in staff. She was sweating, pale and clinging to her mother. The check-in staff were understandably concerned as to her wellness and fitness to fly, considering her itinerary involved two lengthy flights with a total elapsed duration of over 16 hours. The parents told the check-in staff she had "come down" with the symptoms on the way down to MAN, which prompted Etihad's check-in Supervisor to request the paramedics attend, with the parents' consent.

The version I have been told is that the parents then twigged that this could scupper their travel plans and they started insisting there was nothing wrong with their daughter, telling the paramedic that she was just "hot and bothered" after the day of travel.

Etihad were not satisfied and, with a duty of care for both her and there rest of the full B77W, they requested a GP's medical assessment of her fitness to fly.

It seems to me that Etihad did the right thing in ensuring the health and safety of all those travelling on the flight that day and had it not been for the fact these parents chose to contact the press for their 15 minutes of fame, no one would have known anything of the matter.

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RE: Eithad Bars "Sickly-Looking" Ginger From Boarding

Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:26 am

Quoting Armodeen (Reply 43):
But blaming the airline for ensuring she is fine to travel is a bit much.

I think the suspicion is that her "sickness" was used as a pretext for denial of boarding, given that the aircraft was evidently overbooked, thus, as wjcandee said, avoiding penalties. Whether that's really the case is probably the story here, the ginger thing is just a humorous angle.

Though I've got to admit I'm not sure it is that funny. Every ginge I know seems to show remarkable humour when confronted with "banter" that would probably be an arrestable offence (in the UK) if directed at someone black or Asian. Not that this thread has crossed the line, but I do just wonder why the double standard.

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 15):
I grew up in the USA and see this in the USA. And it has a lot to do with over protective parents.

I was just trying to point out that your attitude seems a little harsh and Victorian, with my feeble attempt at humour. Aside from the fact that this girl didn't grow up in the USA, I think you're way underestimating the ability of millenials to be independent, I speak as someone with a 13 year old girl and 14 year old lad. And it will be a sad day for me personally when my daughter feels she's too mature to lean on her old dad when she's a bit knackered.

[Edited 2015-07-15 03:28:52]
Down with that sort of thing!
 
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RE: Eithad Bars "Sickly-Looking" Ginger From Boarding

Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:30 am

Quoting BaconButty (Reply 47):
Though I've got to admit I'm not sure it is that funny. Every ginge I know seems to show remarkable humour when confronted with "banter" that would probably be an arrestable offence (in the UK) if directed at someone black or Asian.

Isn't the term ginger itself a slur and an insult?
 
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RE: Eithad Bars "Sickly-Looking" Ginger From Boarding

Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:32 am

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 48):
Isn't the term ginger itself a slur and an insult?

Possibly, it's hard to keep up.
Down with that sort of thing!
 
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RE: Eithad Bars "Sickly-Looking" Ginger From Boarding

Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:44 am

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 31):
A bloke (which is a guy, or a man) aspiring to appear like somebody else by altering their appearance, in this case their hair colour... ie by dying my hair red I am aspiring to look like somebody prominent.

Dying dark hair ginger would have terrible results.

Quoting BaconButty (Reply 47):
Though I've got to admit I'm not sure it is that funny.

As the father of a ginger I don't find it all that funny. The newspaper article last week about not letting gingers outside when the temp was in the high 30's that was funny.

http://newsthump.com/2015/07/01/ging...-advised-to-not-even-bother-today/

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