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hkcanadaexpat
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ANA Regional 788s To YVR

Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:27 am

ANA launched HND-YVR effective July 1st and has been exclusively using its 788s with REGIONAL seats.
Anyone know why ANA is doing that? All other long-haul 788 routes are served using LONG-HAUL seats. More so, ANA seems to be prioritising its LONG-HAUL 788 frames on CGK and HAN regional routes rather than YVR long-haul route.
Makes no sense to me.
Thanks for the insight.
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trex8
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RE: ANA Regional 788s To YVR

Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:37 am

Maybe the J traffic is much better to CGK and HAN than YVR???
 
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RE: ANA Regional 788s To YVR

Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:50 am

Well being a broke student in YVR it is well known that ANA has the best flight deals to Asia, currently ~CAD$560 roundtrip YVR-HKG via HND on ANA. They must be just loading connecting traffic in the back.
 
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RE: ANA Regional 788s To YVR

Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:39 am

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Thread starter):

ANA launched HND-YVR effective July 1st

I dont know the answer to your question, but to clarify NH did not commence the route on July 1, just switched to 788 from 763.

There will be some 789 flights in October too.

Quoting wpigott (Reply 2):
it is well known that ANA has the best flight deals to Asia

Also air cargo rates.
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hkcanadaexpat
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RE: ANA Regional 788s To YVR

Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:59 am

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 3):
I dont know the answer to your question, but to clarify NH did not commence the route on July 1, just switched to 788 from 763.

You are correct, my apologies. more to the point that the 763 product was a long haul business class product (albeit outdated) which got downgraded to a regional business class product.
makes no sense. especially given partner Air Canada sends their premium 788 business class product on the YVR-NRT route.
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RE: ANA Regional 788s To YVR

Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:45 am

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 4):
makes no sense. especially given partner Air Canada sends their premium 788 business class product on the YVR-NRT route.

Couldn't that very point be the reason? Excess economy demand that is not picked up by AC. I am sure long haul in a regional NH plane is still a step up from some of AC's recent high density 77Ws (though I know they are not on this route). Could just be a short term thing.

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briguychau
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RE: ANA Regional 788s To YVR

Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:21 am

From living here I can tell you that Vancouver is very much a low-yielding market. NH's long-haul 787-8 has 67 premium (business + premium economy) seats and only 102 economy, which is far too premium-heavy for mostly tourist traffic. When they switch to the long-haul 787-9 (69 business/premium economy + 146 economy) it will more closely match what the market demands. I'm hoping the 787-9 switch is permanent, which would make more sense than using the regional 787-8 long term.

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 4):
763 product was a long haul business class product (albeit outdated) which got downgraded to a regional business class product.

That may be so, but the regional business "cradle" seat looks to be an improvement on the old long-haul business, at least from images.

https://www.airliners.net/photo/All-N...d=a77e014f96520b74cbc0ee2fdc277c92

https://www.airliners.net/photo/All-N...d=a77e014f96520b74cbc0ee2fdc277c92
 
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RE: ANA Regional 788s To YVR

Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:38 am

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Thread starter):
ANA launched HND-YVR effective July 1st and has been exclusively using its 788s with REGIONAL seats

That is horrible....... Maybe someday they will send the "Inspiration of Japan," seats?
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RE: ANA Regional 788s To YVR

Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:53 pm

Quoting wpigott (Reply 2):
Well being a broke student in YVR it is well known that ANA has the best flight deals to Asia, currently ~CAD$560 roundtrip YVR-HKG via HND on ANA.

And here I am paying between $1300-$2000 USD R/T from IAD-HND/NRT with a stopover. While a NRT-IAD nonstop is under $1000 USD on ANA/UA. I'm moving to Vancouver. Seems like HND cost a few hundred more to Haneda from US.

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