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Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 3): Or, if it can be determined that the capacity that all 3 rings provides is not needed, could building a central terminal with security checkpoints between two of the existing rings work? Then, the interiors of those ring terminals could be opened up as true concourses, much closer to what DFW has, as ticketing/baggage claim/security would all be in the central terminal at that point. |
Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 2): Would something like this not be as cost-effective as building an entire landside-airside complex from the ground up? |
Quoting washingtonflyer (Reply 5): |
Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 8): the city really needs to start with a clean sheet of paper and design |
Quoting washingtonflyer (Reply 5): How many gates are actually used at MCI these days? |
Quoting enilria (Reply 7): I think they should have 7 terminals in different corners of the airfield that are separated by moats with alligators |
Quote: construction at the airport will not be paid for with taxes. Bonds issued for a project will be repaid with airline fees and concessions at the airport. |
Quote: And eventually, Kansas City residents will have a vote on any major airport improvements. |
Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 2): Would something like this not be as cost-effective as building an entire landside-airside complex from the ground up? |
Quoting 727tiger (Thread starter): A year-long study group of airline representatives, MCI representatives and a consultant for the City of Kansas City aviation department has recommended a new single terminal to replace MCI's existing terminal, citing -- among other reasons -- the believed less expensive nature of building new v. renovating current terminals: |
Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 10): If taxpayers are not footing the bill, why should they have any say on its contruction? |
Quoting washingtonflyer (Reply 5): How many gates are actually used at MCI these days? |
Quoting tb727 (Reply 14): In the presentation it says 29 are currently leased, 35 gates are needed in 2030. |
Quoting sw733 (Reply 16): As an MCI-based frequent flyer, I am curious...why? |
Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 8): |
Quoting ScottB (Reply 11): First is that a landside complex that large would be nearly as expensive as a new terminal and require some very long walks to the farther gates in the rings |
Quoting afcjets (Reply 19): The thing that really blows my mind about this article is that it says it will need 6 more gates in 15 years, and it says it will be easy to build a new terminal where terminal A is now which is not being used. Um, why not use terminal A then, wouldn't that give you six new gates and then some? Or am I missing something here? |
Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 2): Interesting how (arguably) the very best terminal design for O&D passenger convenience before the screening era could become the very worst for both O&D and connecting passengers with gateside screening halls. |
Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 2): Would something like this not be as cost-effective as building an entire landside-airside complex from the ground up? |
Quoting enilria (Reply 7): I think they should have 7 terminals in different corners of the airfield that are separated by moats with alligators and if an airline can't fit all their operations in one of them then they should spread out over several of them. There should also be an Arby's the least accessible terminal and only a Waldenbooks at the others. |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 21): Some sort of train system would likely have to be used. |
Quoting stburke (Reply 20): Or a return to the downtown airport |
Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 10): If taxpayers are not footing the bill, why should they have any say on its contruction? |
Quoting stburke (Reply 20): Or a return to the downtown airport |
Quoting afcjets (Reply 22): There is no reason a tiny airport with 35 gates which is not even a hub (barring WN but it is probably their smallest of approximately 15 mostly redundant hubs) would need a train or people mover system. Also the semicircular design of the concourses means a short walk to each gate even from a central terminal area. The concourses/terminals are right on top of each other too, not spread out like at TPA. |
Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 32): Should MCI even consider connections in their design? |
Quoting 815Oceanic (Reply 34): In Singapore, every gate or two gates has security screening and that was voted the #1 airport in the world. I've never been to MCI so I am honestly curious, why is the separate screening for gates any different other than the added cost of TSA? In SIN, the gate opens about an hour before the flight and you go through security and stay in the secure area until your flight takes off. |
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Quoting christao17 (Reply 35): MCI was remodeled after 9-11 and have about a half-dozen (sometimes more/less) gates per sterile area |
Quoting afcjets (Reply 37): How many gates before then? The last time I flew there was the 1990s and it seemed like each gate or pair of gates had it's own checkpoint. |
Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 39): Flashy terminals and increased costs will only drive service away. I think southwest is still artificially large in MCI they will shrink more in the future if/when they get more DEN gates on concourse C. |
Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 39): think MCI should be trying to keep costs as low as humanly possible and add what specifically airlines need to the current design or use the money to bring in new service. A flight to Europe wont happen because of a flashy new terminal, you might get that flight with a large subsidy or revenue guarantees that you could offer if you didnt spend a fortune building new terminals when you already have too much space. Flashy terminals and increased costs will only drive service away. I think southwest is still artificially large in MCI they will shrink more in the future if/when they get more DEN gates on concourse C. |
Quoting desertjets (Reply 44): I can tell who actually bothered to look at the proposal presentation and those who didn't (or just looked at the pictures). |
Quoting afcjets (Reply 33): Yes, MCI has been a hub at least three times before, if they do not take connections into account in their design that decreases their chance anyone would look twice in the future. |