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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:15 pm

Quoting Frontier14 (Reply 99):
Are you referring to international pax? I would have thought that MCO, FLL, TPA, RSW, JAX and PBI would have most certainly accounted for more than half of the state's tourist trade?

Yeah...something's not right with those numbers
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:29 pm

Quoting Frontier14 (Reply 99):
Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 100):
http://centreforaviation.com/news/mi...ers-to-announce-record-brea-475093


“Miami-Dade County and the state of Florida have had an outstanding year so far for tourism, and with even more new flights expected at MIA this year, the rest of the year promises to be even better of 2015,” said Mayor Gimenez. “That’s great news for our community and for our state. Of the 14.6 million visitors who stayed overnight in our community last year, 96 percent arrived right here at MIA, and those travelers help to support quality jobs for our residents.”

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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:34 pm

It doesn't jive with the last sentence.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busin...o-tourists-2015-20150819-post.html

Florida recorded nearly 99 million visitors in 2014. Orlando accounted for 62 million visitors last year.




Here's a South Florida newspaper...I don't even see it in there.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business...rism-half-year-20150819-story.html




After reading a bunch of articles, I could not find that 96% figure

...so the I checked MIA's press releases....and found it.

Of the 14.6 million visitors who stayed overnight in our community last year, 96 percent arrived right here at MIA,



MIA_HOSTS_GOV_RICK_SCOTT.asp" target="_blank">http://www.miami-airport.com/release...08-19-MIA_HOSTS_GOV_RICK_SCOTT.asp



EDIT:

The link doesn't seem to work...but if you go into MIA's press releases, you'll find it.

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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:40 pm

I see you found it. Let me point out that

Quoting Miami (Reply 101):
14.6 million visitors who stayed overnight in our community last year, 96 percent arrived right here at MIA

is NOT the same as:

Quoting Miami (Reply 98):
State of Florida welcomed 54.1m travelers during 1H2015, 96% arrived through MIA

So glad that is cleared up.  
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:50 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 103):

Then go tell CAPA that.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:26 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 105):

This is just before the 7 Mile Bridge down in the lower Keys, you can see Bahia Honda State Park off in the distance.
 
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:41 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 104):
Then go tell CAPA that.

CAPA is fine. You just misrepresented what they reported. Lies, damned lies and statistics  
 
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:21 am

Quoting eal (Reply 106):

Whats that trailer park kind of place? is South Florida better than Southern California?
 
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:27 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 108):
Whats that trailer park kind of place?

Knight's Key Campground.

Quoting 777way (Reply 108):
is South Florida better than Southern California?

I like both very much. But I give the edge to South Florida. But that's my opinion.  
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:33 am

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Quoting 777way:

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This is just before the 7 Mile Bridge down in the lower Keys, you can see Bahia Honda State Park off in the distance.

  

Or you could say "looking from the Middle Keys toward the Lower Keys", as the Seven Mile Bridge separates the two.

Marathon Airport (KMTH) is a few miles east-northeast of this position, and here's the position on Bing Maps: http://binged.it/1NCY7mq
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:16 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 108):

Depends on what you want, obviously biased, by I would say SoFlo is better because it's greener, nicer beaches, more water sports, better shopping and cleaner air. It's also much more condensed. SoCal does have mountains though which is nice, and their might be a bit more to do in the way of activities. Depends on what you're looking for.
 
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:31 pm

Miami International Airport passenger numbers up 11% - traffic highlights for Jul-2015:

Passenger numbers: 4.1 million, +10.7% year-on-year;
Domestic: 2.1 million, +13.4%;
International: 2.0 million, +8.1%;

Cargo volume: 172,932 tons, -1.6%;
Domestic: 23,437, +5.9%;
International: 149,495, -2.7%;

Aircraft movements: 34,214, +3.2%;
Domestic: 17,433, +3.8%;
International: 16,781, +2.6%.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:33 pm

Could Emirates add a Fort Lauderdale service to tap into JetBlue's Latin American network?*

http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...anama-city-for-latam-growth-239369


*Scroll down to find the topic.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:41 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 113):
Could Emirates add a Fort Lauderdale service to tap into JetBlue's Latin American network?*

A lot of people have been speculating this, including myself. What are we always told...NOT HAPPENING.......no wait...we're not told...we are derided, because of this view.


Earlier in the thread, there was speculation that B6 might start MIA. If that happens, I could see B6 starting MCO-MIA because

1. There's enough local traffic
2. Feeds the DXB-MCO flight nicely


Although, this will probably be derided as well.

Then again, EK could start MIA....so who knows?
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:44 pm

Aerolineas Argentinas plans to suspend Cordoba-Miami service on 30-Aug-2015
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:59 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 114):
A lot of people have been speculating this, including myself. What are we always told...NOT HAPPENING.......no wait...we're not told...we are derided, because of this view.

What's with the overreaction?

It is incredibly unlikely that Emirates will begins service to FLL. That's common sense, and a CAPA article doesn't' change that.

People grossly overestimate the JetBlue-Emirates partnership, which likely has so little to absolutely nothing to do with Emirates' flying to MCO.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:41 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 116):
It is incredibly unlikely that Emirates will begins service to FLL.

I'm with you there. I'd like too see takeoff performance numbers for FLL-DXB off of FLL massive 9,000ft 10L-28R
 
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:49 pm

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Aviation Director Emilio T. González welcomed a Dutch delegation to MIA today to discuss future partnership opportunities. Pictured left to right are: Amsterdam Schiphol Airport Business Development Manager Andrew Land and Aviation Marketing Director Marcel Lekkerkerk; AirFrance/KLM North America SVP Marnix Fruitema; Dutch Consul General in Miami Nathalie Olijslager-Jaarsma; and the Director.
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Everyone seems happy. Hopefully a KLM return to MIA is coming soon.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:06 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 116):
People grossly overestimate the JetBlue-Emirates partnership, which likely has so little to absolutely nothing to do with Emirates' flying to MCO.

It makes a difference in BOS.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 116):
It is incredibly unlikely that Emirates will begins service to FLL. That's common sense, and a CAPA article doesn't' change that.

Could they be at both airports though in 10 years?
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:36 am

Quoting VAM8789 (Reply 96):
For big European carriers, KL is the only one left that does not currently, or have plans to fly into MIA. I still am very surprised, given how large a market Miami is, that KL does not serve MIA.

Looks like it might happen after all..  
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:35 pm

Quoting Sinlock (Reply 117):
I'd like too see takeoff performance numbers for FLL-DXB off of FLL massive 9,000ft 10L-28R

Well, this would solve THAT problem, maybe   
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Quoting Miami (Reply 120):
Looks like it might happen after all..

Why do you say this?


Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see KLM back...especially with 744   

Do you have insider info, or are you just going by the fact that a delegation was there?

UGH...744 population continues to dwindle @ MIA.

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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:39 pm

Quoting yv773p (Reply 88):
Perhaps it has something to do with the new runway separation rules that went into effect a year or two ago; today MIA uses 9/27 for more landings and takes offs because of them.

Maybe, but again, I started noticing this about 4-5 years ago.

But yes, I have noticed more non-cargo landings on 27


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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:52 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 121):
Why do you say this?
Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 121):
Do you have insider info, or are you just going by the fact that a delegation was there?

I guess you can say I got it from an "insider".


They talked about how they can make this time around work. Now, don't think it's going to happen right away. It'll probably take sometime. But, everyone that was there were very happy and looks like a deal "was probably made". But again, it'll probably take sometime so don't get your hopes up just yet until an announcement is made.

I think it would make sense for KLM to re-enter the Florida market.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 121):
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see KLM back...especially with 744

I'd love to see them back in MIA. But, I think an A332 would do the trick (for now).
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:14 pm

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Roughly two years ago we went to a 12/9 operation. We land everyone on 12/9 and use land & hold short procedures (because they intersect). This allows 8R to be used exclusively for departures, since no one has to cross 8R to get to the terminal. Of course, aircraft that parked north of 8L landed 8L. It worked great, until AA & US merged and they brought back the banking schedule. This now creates arrival and departure peaks through out the day. Since they're already on the ground, the departure peak means light arrival traffic (for AA anyways) we start to use 12 for south departures as non-AA arrival traffic on 12/9 permits.
Also, it helps in that all AA arrival aircraft are exiting near our hold areas where we park them if they don't have a gate available. If we land them 8L, they cross into the fray of push backs and outbound aircraft. And if their gate isn't available you have to take them back to the middle of the airport anyway.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:10 am

FLL pax up 10% in July 2015
PBI pax up 7% in July 2015
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:04 am

For anyone interested: https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/11894426_10206895368716825_1984942569816744365_o.jpg


This is MIA.

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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:07 pm

American Airlines Adds New A321 Miami – Caribbean Routes from Dec 2015

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eff 17DEC15 Miami – Port au Prince 2 daily
eff 17DEC15 Miami – Punta Cana 3 daily
eff 12JAN16 Miami – Santo Domingo 3 daily (4 daily form 12FEB16)
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:13 pm

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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:18 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 128):

Excellent collection of photos. The nice thing about MIA is that are always a wide variety of airlines flying to and from
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:23 am

With the departure of LY from MIA what are the chances of them flying into FLL, TPA or even MCO?
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:29 am

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 130):
With the departure of LY from MIA what are the chances of them flying into FLL, TPA or even MCO?

Not likely. MIA will get LY back because the market is simply the biggest without a nonstop flight.


If you haven't already known, LY left MIA years ago. A return with the 787 is highly likely.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:12 pm

SAS will begin MIA-CPH flights on October 28, 2016. 3 weekly, A330.*


*Date hasn't been revealed until recently.

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Sun Sep 06, 2015 12:10 am

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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:38 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 132):
SAS will begin MIA-CPH flights on October 28, 2016. 3 weekly, A330.*


*Date hasn't been revealed until recently.

Has the Oslo flight been cancelled?
 
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:03 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 113):
Could Emirates add a Fort Lauderdale service to tap into JetBlue's Latin American network?*

They could, but it's extremely unlikely. I think an EK entry into South Florida will be later rather than sooner with the start of MCO, QR already present at MIA, and Latin America much more effectively served by interlining with CM at PTY, which allows transit without visa.

Quoting Miami (Reply 118):
Everyone seems happy. Hopefully a KLM return to MIA is coming soon.

I'm not holding my breath, considering how many times AMS-MIA has failed.
 
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:16 pm

Quoting eal (Reply 134):
Has the Oslo flight been cancelled?

No. Still happening. There's just no official start date just yet.

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 135):
I'm not holding my breath, considering how many times AMS-MIA has failed.

Yeah, I'm not counting on it. Would be nice though.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:32 am

PAWA is looking to begin MIA service.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:17 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 136):

Quoting eal (Reply 134):
Has the Oslo flight been cancelled?

No. Still happening. There's just no official start date just yet.

They are starting at the same time, one day apart.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:21 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 138):
They are starting at the same time, one day apart.

I haven't heard any confirmation so far.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:27 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 139):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 138):
They are starting at the same time, one day apart.

I haven't heard any confirmation so far.

Not sure what confirmation you are looking for? They are launching a day apart; Oslo the day before Copenhagen.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:30 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 140):

I only know about CPH starting October 28, 2016. I haven't seen anything about OSL starting on the 27th.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:51 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 137):
PAWA is looking to begin MIA service.

WOW....you know, I had asked about that in like, thread 1 or 2. Good to hear! More loud MDD jets!   
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:14 pm

Lufthansa 463 was canceled yesterday due to strike.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:28 pm

For those who were curious, this is how the works on MIA's second A380 gate (E6/E8) look like today, in preparation for the start of the BA A380 service on Oct 25th.

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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:31 pm

Great stats for MIA

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/t31.0-8/11958127_10206985177201981_924775896892008458_o.jpg
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:09 am

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LANPeru has revised planed Boeing 787-8 service introduction on Lima – Miami route, previously scheduled from 24FEB16. 1 of 2 daily service is now scheduled to be operated by the Boeing 787 from 02MAY16
http://airlineroute.net/2015/09/16/lp-limmia-may16/
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:11 am

According to MIA:

07/2014 - 06/2015

Qatar Airways carried a total of 112,965 passengers to and from MIA.


I'm impressed by the numbers. Especially since the flight isn't even daily yet.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:13 pm

King of Spain A310 VIP and Icelandair 757 will be in MIA today.


Wonder why Icelandair will be in MIA.
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RE: South Florida Aviation Thread - Part 6

Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:37 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 148):
Icelandair 757 will be in MIA today.

It landed with 0 pax and parked at F10 IIRC so who knows what the story behind it is?

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