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Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:57 pm

Delta will start offering HVC s space on Delta Private Jets as soon as this week!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...upgrades-to-private-jets/30738655/

Game changer or non event?

[Edited 2015-07-27 12:00:22]
 
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:20 pm

I think it is a great idea simple reason the flight is already costing Delta money even as a empty leg you still have to pay for the fuel and pay the pilots and probably the FA's are being paid as well on these empty leg segments so why not open up these flights to your high value customers it should be a win win for Delta's customers. Their high value customers if they choose to pay for the upgrade get to enjoy a flight on a private jet which in turn will open up first class seats on the commercial aircraft for customers who otherwise would have no choice but to sit in coach. This could be a hit with corporate clients if Delta finds a way to always have a a private jet available on certain routes at a competitive price.

If American and United do not have a private jet subsidiary I imagine starting today they are looking private jet companies to see which one they can buy out especially if this proves to be a hit for Delta.
 
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:27 pm

Quoting ItalianFlyer (Thread starter):
Game changer or non event?

You'd have to be a really High-Value Customer to get one of these.
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:40 pm

Quoting jetjack74 (Reply 2):
You'd have to be a really High-Value Customer to get one of these.

Same with being picked up in a Porsche. In any case, I think its a good move as it differentiates Delta from the crowd, opens up a seat in FC, and earns some revenue.
 
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:45 pm

I think it's brilliant logistics and aircraft utilization. DL has good insight on who is flying where, I think this will work!
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:06 pm

How far ahead would HVC be offered these seats? The only problem I see is that they may lose one of the key reasons to have a private jet, flexibility. If they need to last minute change where that jet goes, it is not a great image having to tell the HVC that the private jet they were now booked on, is no longer travelling.

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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:54 pm

Quoting jetjack74 (Reply 2):
You'd have to be a really High-Value Customer to get one of these.

Silver Medallion. Not that high up. Just have to be willing to pay the upgrade fee. This service is not complimentary.
 
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:00 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 5):
How far ahead would HVC be offered these seats?

Second paragraph of the linked article:

Quote:
The offer for the upgrades will go to a small number of fliers, usually within 24 or 48 hours of their scheduled flight.
 
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:06 pm

if i had DL status I wouldn't mind paying $300 just to check out the experience for the fun of it (hopefully something longer than a 15 minute JFK-PHL hop)
 
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:03 am

Quoting jayunited (Reply 1):

Not exactly, the position legs are most likely going to be paid for by the charter customer already (for example I charter a flight from Atlanta to NY on an Atlanta based plane, I am also paying for the position leg from NY back to home base. It is an opportunity for them to try to make a few extra bucks on an empty leg. Personally I just see this as being too complex to really make a difference. Living the world of private jet charter there are so many variables that will make this too much effort than it's worth.
 
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:12 am

Great to see DL think outside the box!

I'd certainly pay $300 - $800 for such an experience  
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:27 am

Quoting corey07850 (Reply 9):
Not exactly, the position legs are most likely going to be paid for by the charter customer already

DPJ, as with most fractional, or pre-pay, operations, do not charge for the empty leg. That's why, when you charter a GV from an operator directly its 5k/hour, when you do it via NetJets (as an example) it's 10k.
 
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:45 am

It makes a great deal of sense. Why not sell the empty seat? I know if I could get a seat for 300, I'd do it just to try it. I"m guessing Im' not the only one. As others have said, gets some $$, opens a F seat (which will make another flier happy), sounds like winning all the way around.

Good idea who ever had it at DL.
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:50 am

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 5):
How far ahead would HVC be offered these seats? The only problem I see is that they may lose one of the key reasons to have a private jet, flexibility.

...that's why it's generally a good idea to READ the article before commenting. It addresses all of the above.  


Quoting clickhappy (Reply 11):
DPJ, as with most fractional, or pre-pay, operations, do not charge for the empty leg.

Interesting. If others are doing so, it sorta makes a layperson wonder why they don't?
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:57 am

It's definitely different! I don't know if it will work long term but it's not costing Delta anything to try and the big reason to do it is to sell DPJ to those HVCs. Try it once for cheap and they may be so happy they'll do it more often (book charter direct).

Very cool idea.
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:20 am

Only a small number will be offered it, it will be like winning the lotto but a smart way to keep their hvc loyal.
 
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:50 am

Yeah I bet you they offer this a very small amount of times on a few routes when they need to move planes around. I bet you its only offered to reposition flights or when planes are over sold and they need to open up some seats. They are not just going to offer a private plane on JFK-DC because the plane is sitting there idle.
 
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RE: Ultimate DL Upgrade: Your Own Jet!

Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:59 am

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 16):
Yeah I bet you they offer this a very small amount of times on a few routes when they need to move planes around. I bet you its only offered to reposition flights or when planes are over sold and they need to open up some seats. They are not just going to offer a private plane on JFK-DC because the plane is sitting there idle.

Yes and no... Let's do some very quick and guesswork math. 66 airplanes in the DPJ fleet. Let's say they average 2 revenue flights per day. That's 4 flights per day if we assume 2 position flights for 2 revenue flights. For 66 airplanes that's 132 position flights PER DAY. If even 10% of those are offered to HVCs, that's still 13/day which doesn't sound unreasonable.

It's all worth it if just a few HVCs decide to utilize DPJ in the future.
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