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Quoting allrite (Reply 47): Don't most Australian business (and political) leaders insist on luxury road transport (or helicopters) rather than trains and public transport? |
Quoting allrite (Reply 47): Well if they are too poor to drive (luxury vehicles) then surely they can't afford to fly either. |
Quoting Flyingsottsman (Reply 50): I read on here that Air Vanuatu will not be coming back to MEL, my question is how come some flights are between city's work and some don't like Sydney/Brisbane to Port Vila work how come Melbourne does not I would of thought heaps of Victorians would love to head into the tropics from here especially since it gets bloody cold down here this time of the year. So how come some city to city flights work and some don't? |
Quoting Flyingsottsman (Reply 46): Where does QF use their 767 freighters and how many are in the fleet? |
Quoting EK413 (Reply 36): how many are in the fleet? |
Quoting EK413 (Reply 36): Just thought I'd share a few images of a newly "domestic" reconfigured QF A332's. |
Quoting qf789 (Reply 29): No MD80's, they operate about 7 flights a day 3 x738, 2 x757, 2 xA321 |
Quoting allrite (Reply 47): Don't most Australian business (and political) leaders insist on luxury road transport (or helicopters) rather than trains and public transport? An efficient road network is one that has special lanes exclusively for luxury vehicles. What about everyone else? Well if they are too poor to drive (luxury vehicles) then surely they can't afford to fly either. |
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Quoting Sydscott (Reply 55): I've got to say, it really is utterly ridiculous to not have a train line, or train lines, intersecting at Badgerys Creek Airport. |
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 54): Melbourne to the South Pacific is a surprisingly small market. It's not just VLI, BNE is a larger market to NOU and even NAN than MEL. Demographics is one part, with larger Melanesian populations in Sydney and Brisbane, and the other is that I have met a lot more Victorians who think that it's a good idea to spend winter in Queensland than I have Queenslanders. |
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 54): I have met a lot more Victorians who think that it's a good idea to spend winter in Queensland than I have Queenslanders |
Quoting Sydscott (Reply 55): I've got to say, it really is utterly ridiculous to not have a train line, or train lines, intersecting at Badgerys Creek Airport. As much as I hate to say this, because I think Mike Baird is doing a great job as Premier, Public Transport really is a State Government responsibility so some of that money he's ear-marked from electricity privatisaion should go towards a train line to the new airport. |
Quoting vhebb (Reply 59): No routes mentioned but more HKG flying being looked at. |
Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 60): I didn't see this covered, but in addition to QF getting 2 more 717s, VA are taking the 2 F100s that QQ are offloading. Virgin Australia and Qantas expand regional fleets as rivals struggle |
Quoting tullamarine (Reply 61): Where this all ends up is an unknown but it is likely that airlines such as Alliance and REx will eventually be absorbed by one or other of the majors. For REx, this would be going full-circle given it spun out of AN when that group went under. |
Quoting tullamarine (Reply 61): It does appear that the smaller airlines will continue to struggle as VA and QF become more aggressive in the charter space which they are able to cross-sell to corporate clients as a component of a company-wide travel contract that covers both charter and scheduled services. |
Quoting tullamarine (Reply 61): Where this all ends up is an unknown but it is likely that airlines such as Alliance and REx will eventually be absorbed by one or other of the majors. |
Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 51): Malcolm Turnbull seems to catch a few trains, although I suppose it's probably for the novelty given he probably has a fleet of his own luxury cars (and chauffeurs) to choose from. |
Quoting QF175 (Reply 67): According to Travel Daily (04AUG15) Indonesia AirAsia X will launch flights from Denpasar / Bali to Sydney in October. Flights are expected to be 5x weekly, will be operated by the airline's fleet of 377-seat A330-300s and should go on sale later in August. The airline has hinted at another destination with speculation this could be Brisbane. |
Quoting QF175 (Reply 67): Sarcasm - yay just what we need, more capacity within the already saturated Australia to Indonesia market |
Quoting QF175 (Reply 67): According to Travel Daily (04AUG15) Indonesia AirAsia X will launch flights from Denpasar / Bali to Sydney in October. |
Quoting QF175 (Reply 67): Sarcasm - yay just what we need, more capacity within the already saturated Australia to Indonesia market |
Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 68): Brisbane was noted in their last financial reports / presentation as a future destination. |
Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 68): I think VA would (sensibly) fall on their sword... |
Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 69): Flying B737's on such longer routes is hardly going to be a competitive position when rival carriers are all flying A330 or B787 aircraft. The larger aircraft offer significantly better CASM and a better overall passenger experience than over 6 hours in a single-aisle plane, making VA's task to generate a return on these routes a struggle. |
Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 70): It's really the only other Australian destination that could possibly support a 377-seat plane to DPS. Unless XT chooses OOL to co-locate with D7? |
Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 69): Flying B737's on such longer routes is hardly going to be a competitive position when rival carriers are all flying A330 or B787 aircraft. The larger aircraft offer significantly better CASM and a better overall passenger experience than over 6 hours in a single-aisle plane, making VA's task to generate a return on these routes a struggle. |
Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 71): VA's issuie would likely be that Air Asia Indonesia Extra will likely try and upgrade frequencies in the short to medium term on its MEL/SYD-DPS routes which will make life even harder for VA. VA's issue is that it is not left with many options across its network. It is being outflanked on most fronts. |
Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 73): Bali is VA's second largest international market behind NZ according to CAPA... Would they really have so much invested into DPS if it wasn't profitable? |
Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 73): Bali is VA's second largest international market behind NZ according to CAPA... Would they really have so much invested into DPS if it wasn't profitable? |
Quoting tullamarine (Reply 72): An A330 is a charter configuration flown by Air Asia is not a pleasurable pax experience in Y. Likewise, Air Asia has a fairly good J class seat but the service offering from lounges to catering is pretty average. |
Quoting mariner (Reply 74): It's been going on for some time and the betting is that Virgin will put Tiger - on DPS at least - to stem those losses. "The airline is expected to unveil plans next week to stem the losses, which is likely to involve replacing some Virgin flights on routes to destinations such as Bali with Tigerair services." |
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Quoting Sydscott (Reply 76): |
Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 71): OOL really won't make a lot of sense on a route like DPS, given it is an outbound leisure market. |
Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 70): It's really the only other Australian destination that could possibly support a 377-seat plane to DPS. Unless XT chooses OOL to co-locate with D7? |
Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 77): get out of the MEL to DPS market, and reduce BNE and SYD to DPS down to daily |
Quoting 747m8te (Reply 78): But OOL basically acts as a second airport for Brisbane, especially with people who live on the south side of Brisbane. If the prices are right then nothing stopping people taking cheaper flights out of OOL as it isn't that too much of a drive from Brisbane. |
Quoting 777Jet (Reply 80): Any chance of the Airtrain line ever extending down to the Coolangatta area? |
Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 77): I reckon they should hand over PER/ADL - DPS and PER - HKT to TT, get out of the MEL to DPS market, and reduce BNE and SYD to DPS down to daily . There must be over 40 VA flights a week to DPS and HKT from Australia... What an amazing amount of resources that must be needed to operate these flights! If they do not make money, then get chopping JB!. |
Quoting 777Jet (Reply 80): Any chance of the Airtrain line ever extending down to the Coolangatta area? |
Quoting 747m8te (Reply 81): Who knows, I'm surprised when they built the light rail through the Gold Coast recently they didn't choose to extend it to OOL even, let alone the Airtrain line from BNE, would have thought it would make sense, and isn't that much further either. |
Quoting 747m8te (Reply 78): But OOL basically acts as a second airport for Brisbane, especially with people who live on the south side of Brisbane. If the prices are right then nothing stopping people taking cheaper flights out of OOL as it isn't that too much of a drive from Brisbane. |
Quoting Sydscott (Reply 76): What's interesting is that, from my understanding, TT's A320's are not able to make the range from BNE/SYD/MEL to DPS. So effectively VA is left with handing TT the PER-DPS route along with PER-HKT. |
Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 79): TT can easily take over PER/ADL-DPS, but without a TT base at either city that will take some added work to facilitate such a move. |
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Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 86): Come to think of it - Does any airline operating the Australia - Bali routes make money on it? Given the competition, I wonder if even TT Australia would be able to make it work? |
Quoting allrite (Reply 87): I do wonder if Bali is worthwhile keeping for loyalty reasons, considering it's such a popular destination. |
Quoting allrite (Reply 87): It's possible to earn the relevant loyalty points on VA and JQ flights (with the appropriate fare), but it also means that you are keeping passengers on your aircraft rather than losing them to AirAsia and others. |
Quoting allrite (Reply 89): Question: As I was passing Turella at 5:17 pm on Tuesday I'm pretty sure I saw an A340 flying northwards out of SYD. I can't seem to find it on FlightAware. Any ideas? Was it some military charter? I thought I saw some colour on it but it may have been the evening light on a white surface - the charter I'm aware of being plain white. |
Quoting tullamarine (Reply 72): An A330 in a charter configuration flown by Air Asia is not a pleasurable pax experience in Y. Likewise, Air Asia has a fairly good J class seat but the service offering from lounges to catering is pretty average. |
Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 84): I'm in Logan and it's twice as long to get to OOL as it is to BNE, so unless the fare is drastically less, BNE is the better option. |
Quoting allrite (Reply 89): Question: As I was passing Turella at 5:17 pm on Tuesday I'm pretty sure I saw an A340 flying northwards out of SYD. I can't seem to find it on FlightAware. Any ideas? Was it some military charter? I thought I saw some colour on it but it may have been the evening light on a white surface - the charter I'm aware of being plain white. |
Quoting 747m8te (Reply 90): Probably the Adagold A340 that flies out of SYD, BNE and DRW with our troops and military personnel to the middle east. |
Quote: The Brisbane-Tokyo flights were initially slated to run only four times a week, with another city to pick up the other three days, but Qantas’ Regional General Manager for Queensland Peter Collyns said strong support from Brisbane Airport, Tourism & Events Queensland and chamber of commerce organisations saw Qantas move to lock in the daily service. “A seven day schedule offers greater certainly for travellers, and for the business traveller in particular if gives them the flexibility they need.” Collyns told Australian Business Traveller that passenger uptake on both legs of the new route are already strong. “We’re really happy with the loadings, and the inbound loads are performing really well – actually inbound from Japan we already have some really good numbers coming through.” Continues... |
Quote: Collyns confirms that an upgrade for the Brisbane Airport’s international Qantas lounges is on the way, and tips it will be a substantial one. “We’ve got a lot of plans, and we’ll see some really good development happening in the next 12-18 months.” The issue of retaining separate first class and business class lounges or combining them into a single lounge “is one of the questions we’re asking ourselves” Collyns said. “But you’ve seen what we've done internationally, in Los Angeles and particularly in Hong Kong and Singapore, so I think what we will see here is a really good concept.” Collyns also hinted at a larger physical footprint for the lounges to cater for higher passenger levels, which will be further buoyed by the daily Brisbane-Narita flight |
Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 84): As someone who lives on the southside of Brisbane I have to say that from my perspective and that of my friends who live on the southside too, OOL is not the second airport for Brisbane. I'm in Logan and it's twice as long to get to OOL as it is to BNE, so unless the fare is drastically less, BNE is the better option. |
Quoting QF175 (Reply 94): It must be very busy in the lounge, take Saturdays as example, you have QF Group flights to Denpasar/Bali, Auckland, Queenstown (seasonal), Noumea, Los Angeles, Tokyo, Hong Kong and Singapore all departing within the space of a few hours (not factoring in other airlines that may use the lounge such as China Southern, Air Niugini, Solomon Airlines etc.) |
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