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Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:22 am

Hi A.netter's,

It's that time again to kick off a NEW Australian Aviation thread with the previous discussion well beyond +200 response's...

Here's a short summary and link of what was discussed in Australian Aviation Part 125...

Australian Aviation Thread Part 125 (by EK413 Jul 19 2015 in Civil Aviation)

# QF & the former speechwriter reach a settlement over the book. http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviat...-lucinda-holdforth-20150720-gifz4e
# Delays in MEL due to icing and problems with QF de-icing truck
# JQ withdraws VH-EBK from service and is currently being prepared to be returned to QF http://www.thejetstarsource.com/jetstar-a330-200-vh-ebk-withdrawn/
# JQ latest route upgraded to the B788 is JQ23/24 MEL-NRT.
# QF B744 VH-OEF Operates QF6031 on 17JUL15 Sydney - Las Vegas – Sydney Charter 19JUL15 as QF6032 on behalf of Flight Centre.
# QFLink B717s to commence SYD-MCY-SYD overnighting in MCY from 21OCT15. Two new leased 717s join the fleet from 2016.
# QF mainline commencing MEL-OOL as predicted from 25 October 2015. http://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/med...ees-qantas-back-to-sunshine-coast/
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantaslink-t...unshine-coast-maroochydore-flights
# NZ operate an LAS charter operated by a B772 BNE-LAS-BNE.
# Virgin, Jetstar cancel Bali flights after latest Mt Ruang eruption causes ash cloud http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-2...-flights-volcano-ash-cloud/6639414
# JQ last day of A330 operations scheduled for 24th of September though this is subject to change.
# QF.com receives a face-lift? http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airlines/main/au/en
# Article about the proposed MEL curfew http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/me...using-keeps-coming-20150721-gigibo
# QF announce that it will operate nonstop 737-800 services on the Brisbane to Hobart route from 27 December 2015 thru 24 January 2016. Qantas will operate 2x weekly services on Saturdays and Sundays
# China Airlines' new services to Melbourne and on to Christchurch to be "seasonal".
# AirAsiaX cutting their KUL-NRT service after August 20.
# Interesting article on the increase in flights by China Southern and the status of JV's between Qantas / China Eastern and Air New Zealand / Cathay / Air China. http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...tition-regulators-query-jvs-235949
# NZ will operate the 789 on AKL-BNE route on 9 days in September http://airlineroute.net/2015/07/23/nz-bne-sep15/
# VA most punctual domestic carrier in June http://australianaviation.com.au/201...punctual-domestic-carrier-in-june/
# VH-EBH positions from Singapore to Spain to begin conversion to MRTT http://www.flightradar24.com/QFA6017/6e33078
# TG and their BKK-BNE route operations
# aryonoco writing from on board UA99 MEL-LAX flight on the 789 27JUL15
# United ends its twice weekly flight to Cairns from September as part of service reductions from the airline’s Guam hub.
# MU will launch BNE-PVG flights if their partnership with QF is approved. http://www.ausbt.com.au/china-easter...dges-new-brisbane-shanghai-flights
# VA announces $93.8 million loss for 2014/2015. http://australianaviation.com.au/201...posts-93-8mln-net-loss-for-201415/
# Air Vanuatu mention that it is seeing strong bookings from Australia to Vanuatu again after Cyclone Pam devastated the region earlier in the year.
# MRTT A330 A39-003 briefly pops into SYD after visiting Auckland. http://www.flickr.com/photos/zk-ngj/19909556249/
# Qantas 787 dreamers interesting article speculating on what a QF 787 will look like / how it will be fitted out etc in July issue of Australian Aviation Magazine.
# QF wind back its transcontinental Airbus A330 flights from October in order to roster more of the big birds onto the busy east coast 'triangle' route and support 'international network changes'. http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-trims...pper&utm_campaign=home-flipper
*QF773/802 (PER-MEL) will be axed
*Departure times will be changed for QF777/481/762/772/476*768 to fill in the gap
*QF569/576 (PER-SYD) will be downgraded to 737
*BNE-SYD will now see 10 weekly services on A332
# Clarity surrounding Jetstar crew; Jetstar Asia crew operating 9V fleet and Jetstar Australia (SIN base) crew operate the VH fleet with no crossing over.
# JQ saying that the B787 wil be seen on "selected" routes to NZ "soon". http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...e.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11489314
# QF pilots back 787
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-pilots-back-the-boeing-787-dreamliner
http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviat...cept-pay-deal-20150730-ginhf3.html
# Jetgo Australia announce via their Facebook page, three new destinations between Townsville, Rockhampton and the Gold Coast 30 July 2015
# CZ cancell plans to introduce a 5th weekly service from the end of October, it will remain at 4 times a week http://airlineroute.net/2015/07/31/cz-per-w15update2/
# Ever wanted to see what a Fokker 100 would look like in the Qantaslink livery? You can see it here: Network Aviation To Become QantasLink (by ben175 Jul 30 2015 in Civil Aviation)
# Xiamen Airlines plans to start flying to Sydney from 29th November they will operate 3 weekly Fuzhou-Sydney
& from 5th of December 2 weekly Xiamen-Sydney http://airlineroute.net/2015/07/31/mf-syd-nov15/

Enjoy the Journey!

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:28 am

Thanks for the summary EK413!
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:30 am

Quoting vhebb (Reply 199):

Re a refurb of the F100s, when would QF be up for replacing either or both of the 717 and F100 fleets?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:46 am

Quoting EK413 (Thread starter):

Awesome summary as usual mate! Thanks for kicking off another thread  

With EK announcing a 4th daily A380 on DXB-BKK starting in December, as well as the two daily 77W flights so 6 daily flights total, I was wondering if anybody thinks that the EK 77W that continues on to SYD from BKK might ever be upguaged to an A380, with QF then possibly moving their 333 off of that route, using it elsewhere, and just letting EK operate the BKK-SYD route? Thoughts?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:55 am

VH-OEF operates the first Haneda service.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 165):
If both cases you can be rest assured that they are only doing it because the cost of employment is much lower

That makes me feel much better about the situation.  
Quoting qf789 (Reply 172):

Qantas will wind back its transcontinental Airbus A330 flights from October in order to roster more of the big birds onto the busy east coast 'triangle' route and support 'international network changes'.
Quoting qf789 (Reply 172):
BNE-SYD / YSSY), Australia - New South Wales">SYD will now see 10 weekly services on A332

This is good! They need it for cargo.

Quoting EK773 (Reply 174):
Jetstar Asia crew operate the 9V fleet and Jetstar Australia (SIN / WSSS), Singapore">SIN base) crew operate the VH fleet. There's no crossing over.

From memory, when JetStar operated the SIN / WSSS), Singapore">SIN-AKL-SIN / WSSS), Singapore">SIN route the cabin crew (and the flight number, I believe) were from JetStar Asia while the aircraft was on the Australian register and the flight crews Australians also.

Quoting Enobar (Reply 196):
I've seen them hit a low point, but then really step up their game in the last 18 months or so
Quoting Enobar (Reply 196):
Yes they've introduced catering... But QF have responded by upping their offering with a noticeable lift in quality & quantity on board.

Competition is good!

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 3):
I was wondering if anybody thinks that the EK 77W that continues on to SYD from BKK might ever be upguaged to an A380, with QF then possibly moving their 333 off of that route, using it elsewhere, and just letting EK operate the BKK-SYD route? Thoughts?

If they keep going down that road, QF wouldn't have much of a long-haul network to Asia left. Presumably, EK could eventually do the same to SIN, CGK.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:05 pm

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 202):
Find a market that their aircraft suits...

I know I might be shot down for this, but with he soon to be commencing (commenced ?) EDTO for Australian registered aircraft through CASA and with the codeshare with SA to JNB ex PER, would it be viable to (re) commence services to JNB ?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:08 pm

Quoting zkojq (Reply 4):
If they keep going down that road, QF wouldn't have much of a long-haul network to Asia left. Presumably, EK could eventually do the same to SIN, CGK.

They could, but EK's capacity into SIN & CGK from DXB is not the same as it is into BKK however.

I guess another issue with that would be that the EK SYD-CHC flight would then need to be operated by the A380!  

If EK ever upguaged the DXB-BKK-SYD-CHC rotation to an A380 anyway I wonder what QF would eventually do if the extra capacity EK put on the BKK-SYD route started to hurt QF loads?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:16 pm

I notice that Jetstar have changed their Plus fares to include 20kg of luggage, so now only their cheapest starter fares don't include luggage. All but the starter fares also include meals/meal credits, seating selections and frequent flyer points (except for non-Max Business).

Only business gets IFE included, but interesting how they actually chose to go with seatback screens in the 787.

I'm guessing that the price of the Plus package has gone up accordingly.

Interesting that they've moved away from bare bones LCC model to something almost like a lower status full carrier.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:08 pm

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 3):
I was wondering if anybody thinks that the EK 77W that continues on to SYD from BKK might ever be upguaged to an A380,

Can CHC handle the A380 on a regular basis? If not, they would either need to drop CHC or make some other change to their network, either a new flight, or perhaps one of the KUL-MEL, SIN-MEL or SIN-BNE continuing to CHC.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:15 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 8):
If not, they would either need to drop CHC or make some other change to their network, either a new flight, or perhaps one of the KUL-MEL, SIN-MEL or SIN-BNE continuing to CHC.

The issue is that the partnership isn't allowed to reduce capacity on any existing Tasman routes.

I don't expect any changes to EK418/419 until after the initial five year approval period has finished (in April 2018). Hopefully they'll be able to convince the ACCC to give them some flexibility when they apply to maintain the partnership (ie total seats or number of flights across the Tasman must be maintained).

FWIW, I definitely don't see QF dropping BKK.
 
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:19 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 8):
Can CHC handle the A380 on a regular basis? If not, they would either need to drop CHC or make some other change to their network, either a new flight, or perhaps one of the KUL-MEL, SIN-MEL or SIN-BNE continuing to CHC.

The SIN-MEL flight would probably be the best one as it currently sits in MEL for about 10 hours, though the schedule would need to be adjusted a little
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:40 pm

SQ will add extra flights to both BNE & MEL over the busy summer period

BNE will go from 21 weekly to 24 weekly from 1st December 2015 to 10th February 2016

SQ265 SIN0650 – 1650BNE 333 123
SQ266 BNE1805 – 0005+1SIN 333 123

MEL will see an extra 3 flights a week between 11 December to 20 December and 2 January to 17 January

SQ247 SIN1240 – 2315MEL 333 567
SQ248 MEL0030 – 0520SIN 333 167

http://airlineroute.net/2015/07/31/sq-bnemel-nw15/
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Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:46 pm

^^ That will make 31 weekly SQ flights into MEL between those dates, along with the new Scoot flights on the route which start in Nov.

Add in the daily QF, daily EK and 5 x weekly JQ, it sure will be interesting t see how it all plays out.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:07 pm

Quoting zkojq (Reply 4):
From memory, when JetStar operated the SIN / WSSS), Singapore">SIN-AKL-SIN / WSSS), Singapore">SIN route the cabin crew (and the flight number, I believe) were from JetStar Asia while the aircraft was on the Australian register and the flight crews Australians also.

My one-and-only trip on JetStar on that sector, back in 2011(?), was with a 3K flight number.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:22 pm

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 3):

The chance of seeing A380s on the EK routes that go through SIN/KUL/BKK is very, very low. Let's ignore for the moment that yields on those routes are lower across all cabins, it's what is under the decks that counts. The A380 has a fairly small cargo capacity. Cargo is a vitally important part of the Emirates business, more so than many other airlines, which is the reason EK simply cannot order 250 A380s and instead must have the 77X as well. Emirates SkyCargo is one the largest (the largest?) forwarder of fright internationally inbound and outbound in Australia. Flying the 77Ws over 8 hour sectors is a vitally important piece of that puzzle. The 77W is a monster in terms of its cargo capacity. They can and do fill it right up to the gunnels, and shifting that for only 8 hours and then refuelling means that they can shift every last ounce of payload without worrying about flying for 14.5 hours into the wind.
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:06 am

VH-QPB is operating the inaugural QF61 today.
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:52 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 14):
The chance of seeing A380s on the EK routes that go through SIN/KUL/BKK is very, very low. Let's ignore for the moment that yields on those routes are lower across all cabins, it's what is under the decks that counts. The A380 has a fairly small cargo capacity. Cargo is a vitally important part of the Emirates business, more so than many other airlines, which is the reason EK simply cannot order 250 A380s and instead must have the 77X as well. Emirates SkyCargo is one the largest (the largest?) forwarder of fright internationally inbound and outbound in Australia. Flying the 77Ws over 8 hour sectors is a vitally important piece of that puzzle. The 77W is a monster in terms of its cargo capacity. They can and do fill it right up to the gunnels, and shifting that for only 8 hours and then refuelling means that they can shift every last ounce of payload without worrying about flying for 14.5 hours into the wind.

Excellent summary!

That makes sense, and makes me wonder, how important is cargo revenue on international pax flights to QF?

Is boosting cargo an area QF could look at to make some more $$$?

Or, is it that QF can't really do much more cargo wise because of it's wide-body long haul fleet which atm just consists of A380s, 747s and A330s, which, don't have the ability of the 777s that they don't have?
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:34 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 9):
FWIW, I definitely don't see QF dropping BKK.

Neither do I. If it lasted through all the cost-cutting it must have been holding its own. Now that QF has a better cost base it can only improve its performance on routes like SYD-BKK. Especially with the declining dominance of TG in the SYD-BKK market.
 
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:37 am

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 201):
I think VA are too slow to respond though.

VA are just slow to respond to anything these days... They set a cracking speed during JB's first few years, but now everything is settling down, so maybe that's why it seems slow. Who knows? -_-

I wonder what AJ would do.   

Quoting Nouflyer (Reply 208):
That makes sense to me too, but the fare levels seem to argue otherwise.

You can't get an award Business Class seat on Virgin BNE-LAX-BNE for love nor money.

But in addition, whereas Air NZ has been selling BNE-LAX/SFO in Business Class for around $5300 return, Virgin Australia's return Business Class fares remain around the $7500 mark. They keep selling their Premium Economy seats in the low $2000s in quick sales, but Virgin Australia's Business fares to LAX seem pretty immobile.

It would be good to see the figures... I'd like to see how many of the pax on VA7/8 are actually O&D.

$5300 return for an NZ business product is exceptionally cheap and I would jump all over that. VA's $7,500 price is pretty normal when compared to QF, UA and DL.

Quoting thai77w (Reply 15):
VH-QPB is operating the inaugural QF61 today.

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Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:28 am

Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 18):

According to expertflyer on Thursday QF61 only had 28 Y seats occupied. You would hope it had filled up by today. I am flying it on 4OCT and it's still wide open in Y.
 
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:46 am

I would hope it was fuller than that! It used a fair bit of runway so it must have had a decent load...
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:09 am

Quoting thai77w (Reply 15):

I didn't see this posted but the inaugural HND rotation was opb VH-OEF. Sorry if I missed it...
 
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:32 am

Quoting wstakl (Reply 19):
According to expertflyer on Thursday

Expertflyer only shows occupied seats not seats sold. QF charges non-status pax a seat selection fee, so many pax would be unlikely to select a seat until check in.
 
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:54 am

Here is QF61 departing this morning:

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Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:30 am

Quoting thai77w (Reply 23):

Beautiful!

Thanks for sharing  
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:33 am

Quoting thai77w (Reply 1):
Thanks for the summary EK413!
Quoting 777Jet (Reply 3):
Awesome summary as usual mate! Thanks for kicking off another thread

Your welcome. I'm off to New York next week so I will have limited time for A.net thread updates.

Quoting qf002 (Reply 9):
I definitely don't see QF dropping BKK.
Quoting thai77w (Reply 23):
I definitely don't see QF dropping BKK.

Totally agreed! The flight survived the International cuts so I doubt QF would cut it now.

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 21):
I didn't see this posted but the inaugural HND rotation was opb VH-OEF. Sorry if I missed it...

I nearly missed it too  
Quoting zkojq (Reply 4):
VH-OEF operates the first Haneda service.
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:39 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 25):
I'm off to New York next week so I will have limited time for A.net thread updates.

Enjoy your flights and have a safe journey!

Any interesting airlines / types in your itinerary???  
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:47 am

Quoting thai77w (Reply 23):

Thanks for the pic.

Quoting EK413 (Reply 25):
I'm off to New York next week so I will have limited time for A.net thread updates.

Enjoy New York. Will you be flying QF to New York, if so I would be interested to hear how many are on the flight between LAX & JFK.
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:44 am

Quoting thai77w (Reply 23):
Here is QF61 departing this morning:

Awesome snap shot! Thanks for sharing...

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 26):
Enjoy your flights and have a safe journey!

Any interesting airlines / types in your itinerary???

Flying the Roo SYD-BNE-LAX-JFK   I'm a Boeing fan can you tell  

We flying Frontier JFK-MIA and haven't booked anything from MIA to LAX as the itinerary could change, you never know... The current plan is Big Apple, Miami, Orlando, & LAX...

Does AA operate mad dogs on the JFK-MIA run or have they switched to B738's / A320's?

Quoting qf789 (Reply 27):
Enjoy New York. Will you be flying QF to New York, if so I would be interested to hear how many are on the flight between LAX & JFK.

I'll keep you posted and let you know on the loads between LAX-JFK...

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:57 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 28):
Does AA operate mad dogs on the JFK-MIA run or have they switched to B738's / A320's?

No MD80's, they operate about 7 flights a day 3 x738, 2 x757, 2 xA321

Delta flies MD-88 between JFK and MIA.

Most of AA's MD80's are based out of DFW these days
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:09 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 29):
Delta flies MD-88 between JFK and MIA.

Thanks for the details, I've checked DL and they have a MD80 service from LGA-MIA...

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:59 am

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 22):
QF charges non-status pax a seat selection fee, so many pax would be unlikely to select a seat until check in.

That's how I understood it worked, but for the second time booking with QF up to NRT from AKL I haven't payed anything for seat selection. I have zero status with QF. Was thinking that because one of the trans-tasman legs is on EK metal it changes the rules or something. I even managed to get them to open up a pair of 'couple' seats (that were blocked) up the back of the 744 by asking on facebook and they did so free of charge. Highly impressed!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:16 am

Quoting wstakl (Reply 31):

From my experience the entire Y cabin is up for grabs from about 48 hours prior to departure. If you are flying on EK operated flights in Y, you can have your pick of seats FOC. Not too sure what happens with EK coded flights on QF metal though.

Quoting EK413 (Reply 30):
Thanks for the details, I've checked DL and they have a MD80 service from LGA-MIA...

I flew a DL MD80 from MIA to LGA a year ago... Great flight and a beautiful approach into LGA just on sunset.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:19 am

Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 32):
Not too sure what happens with EK coded flights on QF metal though.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:17 pm

Quoting zkojq (Reply 4):
From memory, when JetStar operated the SIN / WSSS), Singapore">SIN-AKL-SIN / WSSS), Singapore">SIN route the cabin crew (and the flight number, I believe) were from JetStar Asia while the aircraft was on the Australian register and the flight crews Australians also.
Quoting DavidByrne (Reply 13):
My one-and-only trip on JetStar on that sector, back in 2011(?), was with a 3K flight number.

I believe it was operated as a wet lease with JQ Aus aircraft and pilots and JQ Aus (SIN) cabin crew.

I think they were not able to get A330s onto the 3K AOC so the SIN-AKL route went to JQ code after a while. I noticed that some JQ Aus-AKL flights (was in MEL-AKL-MEL) had the same flight number as AKL-SIN-AKL, but operated by A320. Possibly due to traffic rights out of NZ?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:22 pm

Quoting Ditzyboy (Reply 34):
believe it was operated as a wet lease with JQ Aus aircraft and pilots and JQ Aus (SIN) cabin crew.

I think they were not able to get A330s onto the 3K AOC so the SIN-AKL route went to JQ code after a while. I noticed that some JQ Aus-AKL flights (was in MEL-AKL-MEL) had the same flight number as AKL-SIN-AKL, but operated by A320. Possibly due to traffic rights out of NZ?

The Jetstar SIN-KIX direct flights (A330) also had JQ flight numbers, at least when I flew the route shortly before it was cancelled. IIRC the flight number was for DRW-SIN-KIX despite the DRW-SIN leg being operated by A320s.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:57 am

Just thought I'd share a few images of a newly "domestic" reconfigured QF A332's.

http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r687/pcl138/9EA8B4F5-2132-4D8D-AF6C-C882B53517ED_zps37q2kuf7.jpg

http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r687/pcl138/AE9CC42C-1E65-4D0A-B0AD-95F75319E280_zpsef90dfvm.jpg

http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r687/pcl138/F8E4603A-A2E8-4C86-90DA-5D14AFC5C5CB_zpsgbb40ejn.jpg

http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r687/pcl138/A05C73CC-1C0A-48EC-B298-FC609BF7F03F_zpsugz2a24u.jpg

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:55 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 36):
Just thought I'd share a few images of a newly "domestic" reconfigured QF A332's.

Great photos, but that's an A333 not an A332!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:06 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 37):
but that's an A333 not an A332!

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. The source of the photos has confirmed photos have been taken from onboard -QPD... I should've known better, the self serve bar in the back drop is another give away!

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:24 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 28):
We flying Frontier JFK-MIA and haven't booked anything from MIA to LAX as the itinerary could change, you never know... The current plan is Big Apple, Miami, Orlando, & LAX...

Does AA operate mad dogs on the JFK-MIA run or have they switched to B738's / A320's?

If you want an AA Mad Dog experience on your way home you could go MCO-DFW-STL-LAX. That should log you an A321 or a 738 on MCO-DFW, an MD-80 on DFW-STL and am MD-80 on STL-LAX. The only problem is I think the last STL-LAX flight lands mid arvo at LAX so you'll have a bit of a wait for your LAX-Australia flight.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:02 am

With Qantas returning to Hamilton Island, Coolangatta and Maroochydore, is there writing on the wall for possible QF flights into Uluru from the South East anytime soon? JQ must be doing alright, their fares are nice and high, and they added MEL - AYQ recently too.

Also... with the return of QF to the aforementioned airports, is PPP, BNK and AVV now the only domestic markets left where JQ is the sole QFgroup representative?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:50 am

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 39):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 28):
We flying Frontier JFK-MIA and haven't booked anything from MIA to LAX as the itinerary could change, you never know... The current plan is Big Apple, Miami, Orlando, & LAX...

Does AA operate mad dogs on the JFK-MIA run or have they switched to B738's / A320's?

If you want an AA Mad Dog experience on your way home you could go MCO-DFW-STL-LAX. That should log you an A321 or a 738 on MCO-DFW, an MD-80 on DFW-STL and am MD-80 on STL-LAX. The only problem is I think the last STL-LAX flight lands mid arvo at LAX so you'll have a bit of a wait for your LAX-Australia flight.

Thanks for the mad dog options   Unfortunately we have a tight schedule so we've opted to go direct MCO-LAX  
We spending a night in LAX as we plan to drive down to Santa Monica for the day & last minute shopping before we head back to SYD on the QF18.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:53 am

China Southern A330-300 B5970 made its first appearance in Brisbane and Australia today. Nothing particularly significant except it's in Skyteam c/s. Looks very sleek.
Aircraft types I've been on: PA31,Q300,AT75,AT76,717,733,738,739ER,763,772,77E,773,77W,788,789,744,319,320,332,333,346,359,380
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:39 am

Quoting AirNiugini (Reply 40):

With Qantas returning to Hamilton Island, Coolangatta and Maroochydore, is there writing on the wall for possible QF flights into Uluru from the South East anytime soon? JQ must be doing alright, their fares are nice and high, and they added MEL - AYQ recently too.

Qantas only pulled out of AYQ in 2013 so I would be surprised to see them return (though they do fly there from CNS and ASP with QantasLink). I would expect to see JQ fly BNE-AYQ 2x weekly (or there abouts) before we would see QF return.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:58 am

Couple of tidbits in the press today:

Geoff Dixon and Brett Godfrey team up to launch new Tourism (Walking/Hiking venture):

http://www.smh.com.au/business/airli...urism-company-20150803-giqgpa.html

So will we see JB and AJ set-up a coffee shop in 10 years time      

Badgery's Creek airport won't have a rail link on initial opening:

http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviat...il-connection-20150803-giqff3.html

Not having a rail link will just mean further traffic chaos on the already congested road network. Apparently buses will provided through "an efficient road network"?? Haha
So unless the fares at the 2nd airport are considerably cheaper (or an airline only operates exclusively from the 2nd airport), the 2nd airport will not be a viable/practical alternative for people living in the North/East/South-East.

There is also discussion in the same article that the current site does not have sufficient space for 4 parallel runways. I suppose any thought of ever closing down KSA can be scrapped. 2-3 parallel runways won't cater for the future needs of Sydney.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:37 am

Anyone who's joined Qantas recently, is their onboarding process intentionally standoffish and super vague?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:38 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 16):
That makes sense, and makes me wonder, how important is cargo revenue on international pax flights to QF?

Is boosting cargo an area QF could look at to make some more $$$?

Where does QF use their 767 freighters and how many are in the fleet?
Does Atlas Air still fly their 744F on behalf of QF into MEL?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:49 am

MH CEO Christoph Mueller is claiming that Australians are some of the toughest customers to convince that they are safe to fly.

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 44):
Badgery's Creek airport won't have a rail link on initial opening:

http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviat...il-connection-20150803-giqff3.html

Not having a rail link will just mean further traffic chaos on the already congested road network. Apparently buses will provided through "an efficient road network"?? Haha

Don't most Australian business (and political) leaders insist on luxury road transport (or helicopters) rather than trains and public transport? An efficient road network is one that has special lanes exclusively for luxury vehicles. What about everyone else? Well if they are too poor to drive (luxury vehicles) then surely they can't afford to fly either.  
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:01 am

Quoting allrite (Reply 47):
MH CEO Christoph Mueller is claiming that Australians are some of the toughest customers to convince that they are safe to fly.

I think, and its unfortunately to, but with MH its going to be a long and hard road back from the bad luck they have had, I know other airlines have had accidents in the past but I cant remember ever seeing one airline losing 2 aircraft in the same year even though it was not their fault, apart from 9/11 but that was deliberate man made planed attack using civil airliners.
But it will take a while for MH to get their loads up and people's confidence back, but in time I am sure they will. Lets hope for a good and strong future ahead of them.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 126

Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:04 am

Quoting Flyingsottsman (Reply 46):
Where does QF use their 767 freighters and how many are in the fleet?

Just the one, which currently does an overnight SYD-AKL-CHC-SYD rotation each weeknight and a SYD-AKL-CNS-HKG-SYD rotation overnight on Sundays.

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