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Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:48 pm

Hello there avıatıon fans,
I hope everyone ıs gettıng a chance to enjoy the summer.
I have been travellıng a bıt last month, mostly wıth TK and " due to congestıon at IST" ıs now part of the pilot annoucement.  
Lıkewıse, lounges are overcroded, crews look tıred.

On another note, for the fırst tıme I happen to fly woth a TK purser that happened tp be a natıve Englısh speaker who also had a great command of Turkısh. Both languages sounded very professıonal. I personally congratulated hım for hıs excellent communıcatıon skılls.

-TK A310 fleet ıs all retıred
-Rumors of Onur to get a bunch of 332s for LH operatıons
-Last thread there was a dıscussıon about SAW operatıons and DHMI role there
-On an other Istanbul was chosen as the hub wıth the most amount of destınatıons (we already knew that)

Please contınue wıth your news, photos, rumors and good old sense of humor.
 
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Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:06 am

Hello everyone. Hope your summer has been going well.


In addition to that ANNA story about Istanbul being the most connected hub, OAG coincidentally published a white paper about Istanbul.

Basically Istanbul airport system as of summer 2015 has become the worlds 9th city airport system in number of scheduled airline capacity seats.

Airport specifically, Istanbul which in 2010 was 43rd globally now occupies the number 12 spot in number of seats with growth of 63% in 5 years.



Maintaining the current 14% per annum growth pace(blue), Istanbul could reach almost 150-mil seats by 2020. Even a conservative 5% growth rate (gray) airport seats reach 100mil.



Interestingly, IST now is the 2nd largest Star Alliance hub in number of seats this summer also.



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Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:59 am

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):

Thanks TK787 for another month

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):

Can you get some LF figures for us to share of TK's North American routes all of them ?
 
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Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:37 am

Thanks for the numbers LAXıntl. Just amazing.
I was on a TK DLM-SAW flıght last night, delayed 2 hrs. There were many angry locals.  
Both Istanbul airports are busting at seams.
 
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Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:22 am

ACM magazine has an interview with Ali Turk head of TK cargo with some interesting commentary.

o Cargo revenues have grown 5 fold since 2010
o Unlike ME3 with small home markets, Turkey has its own large inherit cargo demand
o Export driven cargo boom has increased Turkish domestic cargo 10.4% in 2014 alone
o Thanks to geography IST is ideal for 6th freedom cargo flow - about 49% of air cargo was transit in 2014 up from 36% in 2010
o Geopolitical/security risk actually benefits air-cargo as truck/rail transport into Africa, Levent and MidEast has been reduced.
o Busiest trade corridors is North America and Far East (~20% of system tonnage each). In Europe FRA and MST largest freight stations. Africa growing in importance
o Huge opportunity with Iran if sanctions removed. Turkey uniquely placed to facilitate trade with Iran both on the ground and via air.
o Freighter network now serves 50-cities.
o Could one day see fleet of 25-30 freighters up from current 11.
o Other carriers noticing Turkey as growing freighter market also. LH now 4x weekly MD-11F to IST, while Cargolux also increased frequencies, plus growing Turkish players
o SAW could be an option but prefer to keep freighter ops at IST until new airport opens. Too costly to truck to/from SAW especially since bulk of Turkish freight forwarders also on European side.
o New IST 71,000sqm cargo terminal that opened in February boosted TK cargo handling capacity 150% and should be sufficient until new airport opens.


Quoting TK773ER (Reply 2):
Can you get some LF figures for us to share of TK's North American routes all of them ?

TK now post breakdown of regional LF on monthly basis.

For North America
Jan - 83.9
Feb - 74.9
Mar - 83.4
Apr - 80.8
May - 83.7
Jun - 86.1

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Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:30 am

So does anyone know what has happened with SAW-MAD on TK? A few months ago I saw somewhere that TK planned to operate that route but this has never happened. Pegasus started SAW-MAD last year.

Maybe for next season? MAD is now Europe's fastest growing large airport (above IST   ).
 
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Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:30 am

Turkish Civil Aviation Authority awarded several international route incentives ex-ESB to AnadoluJet, Pegasus and Borajet for new direct services from ESB and the flights should be introduced in September but no schedule announcements yet made by either airline, they need to start marketing so I think we should hear this month...
 
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Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:57 pm

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 5):
So does anyone know what has happened with SAW-MAD on TK? A few months ago I saw somewhere that TK planned to operate that route but this has never happened. Pegasus started SAW-MAD last year.

TK had several issues while launching 3rd frequency MAD-IST due to scheduling, the flight had terrible schedule which led to low demand on that flight. It does not make sense to operate a MAD-SAW until you get the 3 MAD-IST running perfectly (which is not the case).

On the other hand, I heard the BCN-SAW route is doing quite fine over 80% LF, not bad for such a new route...
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Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:03 pm

TK's 50th A321, TC-JSU is delivered now.
 
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Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:11 pm

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Hello there avıatıon fans,

Thanks for a new thread  
Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
On another note, for the fırst tıme I happen to fly woth a TK purser that happened tp be a natıve Englısh speaker who also had a great command of Turkısh. Both languages sounded very professıonal. I personally congratulated hım for hıs excellent communıcatıon skılls.

Interesting did they have any links to Turkey ? I have never seen non Turkish cabin crew. Is this a one off?
 
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Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:07 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):

Thanks for the numbers
 
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Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:34 am

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Rumors of Onur to get a bunch of 332s for LH operatıons

For Lufthansa operations? Airporthaber says, if my understanding is correct, that Onur wants to operate long-haul flights to Johannesburg, Caracas and Seoul (from Istanbul, I suppose) in its own right, I cannot find any mention of Lufthansa. Are you confusing this with the Sun Express operation for Eurowings? I really doubt that Lufthansa would have Onur operate Lufthansa branded aircraft on its behalf, not to mention industrial relations issues such a move would cause.
 
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Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:36 am

TK has now started flights to Khujand, Tajikistan, 2x weekly.
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Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:27 am

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 11):


LH here means 'Long Haul'...
Flown 0B 4I 9U A3 AA AB AF AZ BA BD BR CA CU CX EI EK FR HV JK JP JU KK KL KM LH LX MA ME MS NG OA OK QR OS RJ RO SA SK SQ SR SU UA VY YM
 
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Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:14 pm

Thanks. That happens when you are from Germany - you automatically associate "LH" with the national carrier  
 
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Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:54 pm

According to Airporthaber, Boeing has done a good offer to TK for 2 B747-8. TK is these days checking it.
 
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Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:57 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 15):
According to Airporthaber, Boeing has done a good offer to TK for 2 B747-8. TK is these days checking it.

Thats certainly interesting if they go down that path.
 
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Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:29 pm

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):

Thanks for the new thread.

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 15):

This is interesting news. I expect TK to order new wide body aircrafts next year as last order deliveries will finish by 2016/2017. However due to congestion at IST, TK may change strategy and go towards EK model: Sustain the growth with wide bodies and VLAs.

On a separate note, it is rumoured that TK is requesting complete IST international terminal for itself and transfer of all other airlines' operations to new extension international terminal which will have only 8 gates. If this is true, it will be a game changer for TK.
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Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:37 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 9):
I have never seen non Turkish cabin crew. Is this a one off?

I think so. It could be that he was born in he UK to Turkish parents.

I was on TK1 IST-JFK yesterday, few notes from the flight.
-TC-JNN was the bird, 4 years old. It was a completely full flight. The airport and the TK lounge did not feel as cramped as in the past , maybe the time of the day. Same for Istanbul traffic. It took me 45 min. to get from Atasehir to IST at 9am  
-It is always strange to go to Gate218 and then walk down the stairs to a bus and a very short ride for boarding.
-Construction at IST is at full speed, the new concourse across from runway 5 seemed to have at least 20 jets (some parked as junk)
-TK was on time, fast at 10:04hrs, over Iceland.
-Cabin kept at a perfectly cool temperature, Lavs were cleaned during the flight.
-Probably for the first time I thought the Y lunch was bad, below par.


On my AMS-IST flight last month, I was upgraded at the gate to J for the first time for being ElitePlus, nice.
KL must be pretty upset, for TK was carrying a huge group of young students to ADD, and another big group of architecture students to DEL.

-New TK livery plane "Invest in Turkey" on a 330
http://www.airporthaber.com/thy-habe...-turkiyeye-yatirima-cagiracak.html

[Edited 2015-08-05 04:44:28]
 
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It is waaayyy off topic but I wanted to share. My company paid $1246 for my round trip NY-Cleveland (763 km) Y ticket on UA purchased one day out. Ouch!! The plane ERJ135.
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:55 pm

No pic in OP? is that how its going to be now.
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:51 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 20):

No pic in OP? is that how its going to be now.

Well, we are more than happy that TK787 (and sometimes LaxIntl) take their times to summarize the latest news in Turkish aviation. A nice picture is of course an added touch, but we should be proud and thankful for the real work itself as described before.
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:17 pm

New Sunexpress B737-800 bird is landing this minutes in Antalya. Registration: TC-SEJ
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:21 am

Read somewhere that TK is considering going 2d to SFO, LAX and IAD in summer 16 schedule.
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:45 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 20):
No pic in OP? is that how its going to be now.

My apologies. I am caught travelling, too much work without a laptop. It is really difficult even to type on a smartphone. I am sure you guys understand starting threads on the road.  
Quoting TK787 (Reply 19):
It is waaayyy off topic but I wanted to share. My company paid $1246 for my round trip NY-Cleveland (763 km) Y ticket on UA purchased one day out. Ouch!! The plane ERJ135.

Oh my... One of the best FA's I've ever seen on this flight. She memorized the safety instructions and recited perfectly. And better yet, she parked the drinks cart in the middle of the plane took drink orders from the front ( if I'm not mistaken at least 15+ people) and without writing it down and served everyone without a hitch, super fast. Wow! How did she do that???
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:49 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 24):
It is really difficult even to type on a smartphone.

I can see it in the title:

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instead of

Turkish Aviation

 
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:04 am

I don't know how reliable is airporthaber.com but according to the site, UAE's Prime minister Al-Maktoum wanted to land at IST with his private jet but was denied landing because the pilots did not declare his name and referred to him only as the VIP passenger. There is no flight number, date of incident or aircraft data so I don't if the story is true or accurate.

However I have a question, I never flew with private airplanes but do you have to declare the passenger list to ATC ? I thought when they land, they proceed to the General Aviation Terminal and do all the official stuff there.



http://www.airporthaber.com/havacili...n-ucagina-inis-izni-verilmedi.html
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:27 am

DHMI published July 2015 figures (7 months):

IST +9% (international 10%)
SAW +19%
ESB +9%
ADB +10%
ADA +13%
TZX +18%
GZT +24%
DLM & BJV +2%
AYT -3%
Turkey Total +9%

Notes:

Despite the dark clouds around Turkey, we can expect TK to reach double digit growth by July (lets wait and see TK's announcement in 10 days). I expect it to be around 10 or 11%.

TK's int-int transit traffic is growing double digits.

Tourism is still not doing good.

Pegasus is performing very good.

Turkeys secondary provincial airports (ADA, TZX and GZT trio) is performing also very good. ADA will probably be above 5M in 2015.
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:14 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 27):
IST +9% (international 10%)
SAW +19%

IST Aug14-Jul15 59.751.286
SAW Aug14-Jul15 25.911.508
--> Istanbul total Aug14-Jul15: 85.662.794
Turkey total Aug14-Jul15: 174.617.441
 
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Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:38 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 23):
Read somewhere that TK is considering going 2d to SFO, LAX and IAD in summer 16 schedule.

Yes comment was made by Ahmet Olmustur CMO of TK in interview to US travel group.

Some additional things he mentioned:

o Today corporate travel represents 8% of US traffic. They want to grow this to 20-25%
o TK has tender out for a new reservations system. Current TROYA system is from British Airways acquire 20-years ago. Hope to migrate platform in 2017. Will allow much more functionality including customer facing website/app tools (Bahadir are you reading this?   )
o Building North America destinations and frequencies help further develop IST hub connection depth
o TK believes it can become the #1 airline between North America and Africa with service to 45 points on the continent.
o Other top connection markets from North America are - Iran, Israel, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Arabian Peninsula, India/Pakistan/Bangladesh, Central Asia, Bosnia, Romania, Moldova and Russia.
o Placing additional sales staffing in North America with specific focus on corporate segment
o Turkish Corporate Club now has 8,000 members
o While TK is new kid on block fighting uphill to win corporate travel business against 50-year experience carriers like AF, BA and LH, it manages to "wow" new clients when they try TK. Corporate travelers on TK often get waived fees, and perks like free lounge access even if in economy class.
o Online bookings at thy.com represent only 15% of international bookings. GDS and direct sales primary methods, and TK happy to work with travel agents still.
o Next few months will be updated TK website to cover 15 languages.

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[Edited 2015-08-07 21:40:28]
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Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:05 am

I'm flying IST to HKG on the new 77W in a couple of weeks. I assume there's wifi onboard, is it free? If not - does anyone know the price?
 
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Quoting TKA380 (Reply 30):
is it free? If not - does anyone know the price?

IIRC, $9.99 an hour or $14.99 for 24 hrs.
By the way, my latest A333 flight, the newest A333 had the wifi also.
 
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Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:09 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 31):
$14.99 for 24 hrs.

Thats pretty decent for a long haul flight. Some carriers charge crazy rates.
 
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Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:01 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 30):
Quoting TK787 (Reply 31):

Also note that it is free for busines class passengers.
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Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:04 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 29):
o Today corporate travel represents 8% of US traffic. They want to grow this to 20-25%
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 29):
o While TK is new kid on block fighting uphill to win corporate travel business against 50-year experience carriers like AF, BA and LH, it manages to "wow" new clients when they try TK. Corporate travelers on TK often get waived fees, and perks like free lounge access even if in economy class.

Sounds like TK will become a growing headache for the established European carriers across the Atlantic also.
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Quoting mercure1 (Reply 34):

I am afraid Turkey's being a headache to Europeans will not be limited with TK, they should get used to a stronger Turkey that challenges Germany, I am not saying France....probation is over....
 
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Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:23 am

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 35):

Yes but they have countermeasures and I'm afraid it is not only friendly XQ or *A++ (!).
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Sun Aug 09, 2015 4:05 pm

Why is TK operating ISB nonstop on 18 August instead of via Baku?

[Edited 2015-08-09 09:07:45]
 
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Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:03 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 31):

Thank you for that. For the 24 hour package, does this expire 24 hours after paying (so I will have to buy again on return) or can I sign out/sign in when I fly back 4 days later?

It's fairly reasonable considering it's a long time. I just flew with EK & 500MB was $1 valid for 48 hours. Used it and it was quite good.
 
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Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:18 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 38):
For the 24 hour package, does this expire 24 hours after paying (so I will have to buy again on return) or can I sign out/sign in when I fly back 4 days later?

Mmmmm, never thought about it that way, but I would guess it expires in 24 hours and I am not sure if you could buy it in advance. Bon Voyage.
 
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Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:57 pm

Its for actual 24-hours. Disconnecting and returning later does not extend the package. Its meant for transferring passengers, or day-trip clients so they can use the Wi-Fi on their next flight within same 24-hour period.

http://www.ttnetwififly.com.tr/indexEN.html
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Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:52 pm

New Paksitani airline in the making Air SIAL short for Sialkot International Airlines, presented this as their livery to the press, a TK 77W model with Tulip the rest covered up http://i.imgur.com/y6YyaWJ.jpg
 
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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 40):

Many thanks. Will probably give it a go on the way out or the return.  
 
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Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:02 pm

TK starting end of oct will increase KUL from 7w to 10w, with the addition of 3 flights to the evening departure bank. It seems that TK wants to install the 2nd far east departure bank departing IST at around 18.00 hours. That flights arrive at IST at a similar time.

I am still very curious what decision TK will take on a 2nd North America departure bank: departures from IST at 08.00 hours or 18.00 hours.
 
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Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:17 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 43):
I am still very curious what decision TK will take on a 2nd North America departure bank: departures from IST at 08.00 hours or 18.00 hours

A 6pm California/Texas departure would bring the aircraft back in IST too late for optimal connectivity unless the aircraft is kept on the ground longer in the outstation. I am not sure about the outbound connectivity for a 7.30am departure to anywhere but JFK. I believe however that a departure in the 1 am outbound bank with a morning turn around at the outstation may actually be option that TK is contemplating.
 
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Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:49 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 44):
A 6pm California/Texas departure would bring the aircraft back in IST too late for optimal connectivity unless the aircraft is kept on the ground longer in the outstation. I am not sure about the outbound connectivity for a 7.30am departure to anywhere but JFK. I believe however that a departure in the 1 am outbound bank with a morning turn around at the outstation may actually be option that TK is contemplating.

6pm California departure --> Aircraft is back at 23.00 hours. --> Connectivity to middle east and far east (if it makes sense to connect california to far east through istanbul).
7am departure --> Aircraft is back at noon --> Connectivity to Africa

1am departure: where to take pax from?
 
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Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:05 am

LOT Polish Airlines and Turkish Airlines have agreed on a major expansion of commercial ties. Both sides have signed a letter of understanding, which will initiate an enhanced cooperation between relevant Polish, Turkish and beyond markets and also deepen commercial cooperation on the existing ones.

Recognizing the great significance of deepening the cooperation and desiring to create the most appropriate conditions for their development, both Turkish and Polish carrier have decided to implement a strategic partnership to make use of the possibilities to enhance benefits for their customers by offering them more connection alternatives and even better product. This will give passengers opportunity to travel with convenient stopover and one ticket only to even more destinations across the world.

Final model of cooperation has not been decided yet, however both airlines agreed to proceed towards future joint venture cooperation.

“LOT is ready to grow immediately as of 2016, and now is the best moment to strength equal cooperation with our key airline partners. LOT and Turkish Airlines have been partners for many years. I am convinced that this letter of understanding will help us to create unique and global offer. This will give our passengers all advantages of worldwide and supplementary networks of both carriers” – said Sebastian Mikosz, LOT Polish Airlines CEO.

http://www.eturbonews.com/62562/lot-...egic-partnership-towards-future-jo
 
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Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:18 pm

Looks like TK A333 crash landed at KTM will be scrapped:

http://www.ekantipur.com/2015/08/13/...t-may-be-sold-as-scrap/409391.html

On an other note, now EK is starting PTY (you can read details on A.net). I think TK should consider starting new LatAm routes ASAP to not to loose market. The question is how to sort out aircraft shortage!
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Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:42 pm

Qatar Cargo 747BDSF is leased from MyCargo, will the pure freighter replacing it from October also be from them?
 
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:46 am

TK announces record 2015 1H Net Profit of 1B TL compared to 171M TL of 2014 1H:

http://investor.turkishairlines.com/...l/2015_06_Aylik_Finansal_Rapor.pdf

Notes:
- Income from Underbelly Cargo increased 115M TL (widebody aircrafts' hidden treasure)
- Income from Americas increased 325M TL
- Income from Far East increased 300M TL
- Fuel costs reduced by 300M TL

If TK can keep the pace, we can have a record profit year in 2015.
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Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos