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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:35 am

B-7835 delivered to Hainan Airlines:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CHH8 ... /KCHS/ZBTJ

LN19 is now ZD012 (formerly ZA151 CN-RGC for RAM)

LN13 delivery will occur in late August instead September. Ethiopian secured LN14 and LN13 financing deal too, through AWAS nad two banks sale&leasback agreement:
AWAS delivers one 787 to Ethiopian Airlines

AWAS has delivered one new 787-8 to Ethiopian Airlines. As part of a fleet upgrade solution AWAS has agreed to purchase three new 787-8 passenger aircraft from the airline that Ethiopian had previously ordered directly from the manufacturer, and then lease them back to the airline. The transaction was jointly arranged by CA-CIB and DVB Bank, who also acted as lenders. CA-CIB is the Agent, DVB Bank is the Security Trustee.

http://1ethiopia.net/post/AWAS-delivers ... n-Airlines
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:38 am

Recent deliveries:
B789 B-7835 & B-7837 to Hainan
B789 JA880A to ANA
B789 ZK-NZI to Air New Zealand

LN17 inside 40-24:
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:43 pm

Line 14 just departed on her delivery flight (about 6 1/2 years after initial rollout)

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ETH9201
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:46 am

According to B787register.com, LN 17 (Crystal Air NTU) has been sold to Cabot Aviation:

http://www.b787register.com/airframes/a ... hp?ln=0017

Cabot Aviation also lists a B787-8 as available for sale or lease on their website:

http://www.airpartner.com/de/cabot-aviation/

According to a few articles on the internet, LN17 shall be converted to a BBJ but not sure on that
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:16 pm

NG263 wrote:
According to B787register.com, LN 17 (Crystal Air NTU) has been sold to Cabot Aviation:


Don't think the information quoted is 100%. My understanding is Crystal Air has a contract to purchase LN 17 from Boeing, but have changed their mind about using this aircraft and want to sell it. Cabot Aviation is an aircraft broker and would have listed the aircraft for Crystal Air.

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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:56 pm

I wouldn't be surprised someone wanting LN5 originally for a BBJ decided to buy LN17, which is in much better, flyable condition. And as a result, they bought LN17 from Crystal Air in a quiet transaction.
 
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Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:48 pm

b787register.com is a little out of date dur to me starting a new job but hopefully it will be fully updated later this week
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Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:24 am

Can anyone speak to British Airways converting 787-9 orders into 787-8 orders?
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Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:43 am

Looks like KLM's next 787 received a temporary test registration.

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And LN 15 is back on the flight line.

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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:26 am

CX747 wrote:
Can anyone speak to British Airways converting 787-9 orders into 787-8 orders?

They have converted the 4 -9s into -8s and it is listed:

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/ord ... iew+Report
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:43 pm

817Dreamliiner wrote:
CX747 wrote:
Can anyone speak to British Airways converting 787-9 orders into 787-8 orders?

[They have converted the 4 -9s into -8s.]

It would appear that they do not have as many city pairs for the 789 with its high proportion of premium seats as they originally thought. At this time it is serving AUH;MCT;YYC;JED;NRT;KUL;SJC;IAH;DEL and AUS. The YYC and AUS service sort of sticks out. I would not have thought either of these being able to absorb the numbers of premium seats offered.
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:52 pm

LN 14, delivered over the weekend, required the fewest test flights of any teen to date. I hope that and the apparently relatively smooth entry of LN 12 into service shows that the teens are getting the kinks worked out.

Two more first flights (LN 15 and 17) coming pretty soon, then a wait until the next batch (18, 10, 16) are ready next year. Still unknown what will happen to LN 19. Perhaps it has been allocated to one of the BBJ orders that were to be filled by LN 4/5.
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:29 pm

ET-ATK already entered commercial service:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/et-atk
seabosdca wrote:
Two more first flights (LN 15 and 17) coming pretty soon, then a wait until the next batch (18, 10, 16) are ready next year. Still unknown what will happen to LN 19. Perhaps it has been allocated to one of the BBJ orders that were to be filled by LN 4/5.

I think that order will be LN16, LN18 and LN10. LN18 was moved outside EMC December 2015, LN16 in January 2016, but LN16 was moved inside 40-52 in March 2016 when LN18 was outside the EMC till late May. Both are currently inside 40-52 hangar (777X static frame test building), LN16 is there since March (was moved there simultaneously with LN17) and LN18 was moved recently from the EMC (during LN17 movement to 40-24 after LN15 was rolled out). LN10 is still re-worked outside the EMC.

LN19 is now undergoing re-work as ZD012. She has undisclosed customer and will be delivered in August 2017 as last terrible teen. I won't be surprised if LN19 was sold to BBJ as LN5 replacement.
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:42 pm

Wow, Ethiopian never messes around when it comes to new aircraft. First full day in service and it's already on its fifth revenue segment, with all of the first four operating on time.

This is the same airline that has flown previous 787s directly from PAE to outstations and put revenue passengers in them before they even see home base.
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:37 am

ANA is about to receive its 50th 787.

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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:53 pm

seabosdca wrote:
Wow, Ethiopian never messes around when it comes to new aircraft. First full day in service and it's already on its fifth revenue segment, with all of the first four operating on time.
This is the same airline that has flown previous 787s directly from PAE to outstations and put revenue passengers in them before they even see home base.


They certainly seem to be able to put them into service quickly. According to Flightradar 24 -ATK was turned around in less than 24-hrs after its arrival from KPAE.
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:44 am

Looks like LN 17 is being prepared for roll out.

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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:33 pm

Again refering to B787Register, although @B787Register said he is in the process of updating it, he added some info regarding LN315, the Privatair NTU frame:

http://www.b787register.com/airframes/a ... hp?ln=0315

LN315 is said to have been sold to EC Air of Congo. EC Air currently has a fleet of 7 aircraft of which 6 are operated by Privatair and 1 by Jetairfly.
Are these aircraft only operated by Privatair or actually owned by Privatair and leased to EC Air?
If that is in fact true, Privatair might still be the owner of LN315 and take it up to lease it to/ operate it for EC Air
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:49 pm

NG263 wrote:
Again refering to B787Register, although @B787Register said he is in the process of updating it, he added some info regarding LN315, the Privatair NTU frame:

http://www.b787register.com/airframes/a ... hp?ln=0315

LN315 is said to have been sold to EC Air of Congo. EC Air currently has a fleet of 7 aircraft of which 6 are operated by Privatair and 1 by Jetairfly.
Are these aircraft only operated by Privatair or actually owned by Privatair and leased to EC Air?
If that is in fact true, Privatair might still be the owner of LN315 and take it up to lease it to/ operate it for EC Air


Well, the Privatair deal with EC Air was published 2 years ago: http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/ ... in-4q-2015
Apparently, financing was an issue because EC Air didn't take delivery of the Privatair 787 in Q4 2015 as planned, and Privatair put it up for sale. But it seems the financing issue is now solved: http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/ ... ional-bank

Hopefully we'll see the aircraft flown to the paintshop soon now. Wonder if EC Air will also take the 2nd 787 they plan to operate, and where this one will come from.
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Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:41 pm

hi all I am still in the process of updating www.b787register.com but it's getting sorted.that ks to frigatebird and ng263 I looked into this more closely and the airframe is currently still owned by private air if or if not it will be leased or sold I am not sure but I will update that record in the next 24 hours.
I am sure (I don't have my note book with me) that it was up for sale
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:55 pm

sunrisevalley wrote:
seabosdca wrote:
Wow, Ethiopian never messes around when it comes to new aircraft. First full day in service and it's already on its fifth revenue segment, with all of the first four operating on time.
This is the same airline that has flown previous 787s directly from PAE to outstations and put revenue passengers in them before they even see home base.


They certainly seem to be able to put them into service quickly. According to Flightradar 24 -ATK was turned around in less than 24-hrs after its arrival from KPAE.


This compared to UA that puts their deliveries though a week or longer 'Induction' process before seeing the first paying customer.
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:48 pm

I would guess it's purely down to the desperate need some airlines have for new high capacity aircraft
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:13 am

First Boeing 787-8 for Uzbekistan Airways in full livery LN 470
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:44 am

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I would guess it's purely down to the desperate need some airlines have for new high capacity aircraft


It also depends on how much post delivery modification each airlines do. Some do nothing and use it just as delivered out of the box from boeing, while other do some own modifications. AFAIK Air Canada take delivery of their aircraft, then send them somewhere for Wifi/Internet connections
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:45 am

Tough call whether that Uzbekistan bird or the Scoot 50th Anniversary one is the ugliest 787 yet painted.
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:15 am

Got to say Uzbekistan's 787 looks fine to me. But I do agree Scoot's 787 "chicken pox" plane looks hideous.

Not being bias here (from my nick) but VN's 787 livery is my favourite on the 787.

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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:37 am

Qantas is due to receive its first 787-9 in October 2017.

https://twitter.com/AusAviation/status/ ... 9500161025
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:05 pm

Anyone willing to guess that Uzbekistan's second 787 will be registered UK78702?
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:13 pm

seabosdca wrote:
Tough call whether that Uzbekistan bird or the Scoot 50th Anniversary one is the ugliest 787 yet painted.


I like the fact that it does not follow the trend of white body, billboard titles, and some color on the tail.
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:16 pm

sunrisevalley wrote:
817Dreamliiner wrote:
CX747 wrote:
Can anyone speak to British Airways converting 787-9 orders into 787-8 orders?

[They have converted the 4 -9s into -8s.]

It would appear that they do not have as many city pairs for the 789 with its high proportion of premium seats as they originally thought. At this time it is serving AUH;MCT;YYC;JED;NRT;KUL;SJC;IAH;DEL and AUS. The YYC and AUS service sort of sticks out. I would not have thought either of these being able to absorb the numbers of premium seats offered.


That makes no sense. They could accelerate 8's in that case and/or defer 9's. The remaining orders are largely 9's and 10's.

The F cabin in the 787-9 is only 8 seats compared to the BA norm of 14 so actually there are an enormous number of routes where one of a number of daily rotations could be operated by a 787-9 with improved route economics or on thinner longer routes

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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:27 pm

mutu wrote:
The F cabin in the 787-9 is only 8 seats compared to the BA norm of 14 so actually there are an enormous number of routes where one of a number of daily rotations could be operated by a 787-9 with improved route economics or on thinner longer routes

8 F seats is still a lot. Just look at the number of airlines operating 0 F seats.
 
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Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:37 am

Polot wrote:
mutu wrote:
The F cabin in the 787-9 is only 8 seats compared to the BA norm of 14 so actually there are an enormous number of routes where one of a number of daily rotations could be operated by a 787-9 with improved route economics or on thinner longer routes

8 F seats is still a lot. Just look at the number of airlines operating 0 F seats.

What I don't understand is, BA have set up the 789 at 8F/42Y/39W/127Y which is only one more seat than the 788. They must have some better than usual yields . Potentially this configuration would permit a > 17hr airplane.
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:23 am

First photo of the first AA 787-9 just before roll out:

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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:37 am

My eye has gotten used to the 787-8 with the AA livery... that looks too long! :)
 
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Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:19 pm

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My eye has gotten used to the 787-8 with the AA livery... that looks too long! :)


I would say it looks just right. :) Quite beautiful imho. But everyone has his or her own preferences when it comes to looks of an aircraft.
 
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Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:16 pm

817Dreamliiner wrote:
First photo of the first AA 787-9 just before roll out:

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BIs68j9D5O9 ... mericanair

My feelings are just the opposite. I've always thought the -8 looked stubby and have been eagerly awaiting the -9 in AA colors!
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:25 pm

well just to let you all know the website www.b787register.com has been updated whilst I have been stuck in a traffic jam here in the UK on the m56.... some minor updates to be added for future registrations but for the most part it's up to date.

personally I can't wait for the 787-10 (or is it 78J or what) rolls out.any news on when she enters final assembly
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Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:26 pm

B787register wrote:
(or is it 78J or what) rolls out.any news on when she enters final assembly

78X
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:02 pm

BBJ LN143 to be soon operated by Deer Jet(China), as far as I know, although it still appears as owned by Jet Aviation has been ferried towards Medford.
I don't know if this is still part of pre delivery or a delivery itself. Maybe someone else has some more info on that.

Talking about 787BBJ is there any info regarding the two Saudi Ministry of Finance and Economy frames? The first one has been in cabin outfit for about 2.5 years, isn't that quite long for a VVIP aircraft? I always thougt 2 years plus a month or two of testing and pre delivery flights was normal. But these ones haven't been in the air since the time they have been in cabin outfit. Or are the y making flying palaces out of these aircraft?
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:07 pm

So, will that new AA 789 be flown to PDX for painting?

I'm hope that's the case so some a'nutter can snap some shots
after she rolls out of the paint hangar :)
 
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Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:07 am

Where is Michael Dell 787 ?
 
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Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:36 am

seabosdca wrote:
Tough call whether that Uzbekistan bird or the Scoot 50th Anniversary one is the ugliest 787 yet painted.



One of the best looking 787s so far!
 
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Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:05 am

N820AL first B789 for American Airlines did first flight yesterday:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE4 ... /KCHS/KCHS
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:59 pm

Work is being performed on LN10, the window tape has been removed:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/woodysaer ... 315770583/

More pictures can be seen here (incuding close-up's):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:00 pm

I cannot wait for:
1. Last 'Terrible teen' delivery.
2. First flight of the 787-10

817Dreamliiner wrote:
B787register wrote:
(or is it 78J or what) rolls out.any news on when she enters final assembly

78X

' X is used for 'not carrying passengers,' void, or defective in aerospace. Boeing has had many 7X7s or 7#X planes in the past. For example, the 777X will be the 779 or 778 in service.

78J is proposed, but an SAE code prohibits i, j, l(L), q x, and z for drawings in the industry. These letters become confused with other letters or numbers too. Boeing created confusion on drawings that cost them money (engineering hours) with the 77L. Will they really repeat that error? I want 78K where K=1000. Alas it is the -10.... Most likely it will be 78J.

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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:13 pm

lightsaber wrote:
I cannot wait for:
1. Last 'Terrible teen' delivery.
2. First flight of the 787-10

817Dreamliiner wrote:
B787register wrote:
(or is it 78J or what) rolls out.any news on when she enters final assembly

78X

' X is used for 'not carrying passengers,' void, or defective in aerospace. Boeing has had many 7X7s or 7#X planes in the past. For example, the 777X will be the 779 or 778 in service.

78J is proposed, but an SAE code prohibits i, j, l(L), q x, and z for drawings in the industry. These letters become confused with other letters or numbers too. Boeing created confusion on drawings that cost them money (engineering hours) with the 77L. Will they really repeat that error? I want 78K where K=1000. Alas it is the -10.... Most likely it will be 78J.

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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:41 pm

lightsaber wrote:
Will they really repeat that error? I want 78K where K=1000. Alas it is the -10.... Most likely it will be 78J.

817Dreamliiner wrote:
78X is what is listed on the ICAO website for the 787-10


And the A350-1000 is A35K per the ICAO. So "X" for "10" (Roman Numeral) and "K" for "1000" (Kilo Prefix).
 
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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:33 am

More 787s emerge from FAL without engines.

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Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 48

Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:01 pm

LN10 has been moved inside the EMC for further rework:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/woodysaer ... 702024870/

Btw can somebody tell me how to add images to a post? (like Karel did in the post above)

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Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos