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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:05 am

VT-AND is probably a donor frame, just like VT-ANI was. See Air India VT-ANI To Fly Again Soon, Was Stripped (by BiggerJetsPlz Jan 28 2015 in Civil Aviation) for some background information.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:37 am

I think the early delivery Air India frames are undergoing some sort of change incorporation, and Air India is just taking its sweet time with each one and maybe using some parts here and there for the hell of it. AND will probably come back online towards the end of the year and then ANH will probably disappear for a year.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:15 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 43):
I wonder if RR can do with the Trent 1000-TEN what GE did with the GE90-115b and offer a "thrust bump" option that allows a higher TOGA thrust rating for high-temperature departures.

Apparently he's not having any of that...

Quote:
I don’t want an aircraft compromised on some of the medium-haul routes – ie 3,500nm – or that the engine is working so hard that its reliability gives me despatch problems. They’re talking about thrust bumps and I don’t do thrust bumps.

What I did find interesting from the same article was that he also said that the engines are spec at 70Klbs to 72Klbs on the -10. Not sure if this was a typo or something.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...etter-hot-performance-from-413281/
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:36 pm

ZB536 will be ferrying to Paris today at around 8AM PST.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:58 pm

Quoting karadion (Reply 53):
ZB536 will be ferrying to Paris today at around 8AM PST.

Is it still due to be delivered on the 12th to Vietnam Air?
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:55 pm

Xaimen Airlines LN 304 is currently on a C1 flight

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE684
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:34 pm

Quoting b787register (Reply 49):
Does anyone have any information on VT-AND and why she's been grounded since 2nd January 2015? Awfully long time for maintenance, are AI having issues we are unaware off or are they just very poor at timely turn around (aka VT-ANI)

AI has more widebody frames than it needs. Apparently it has decided to deal with the problem by slowing down maintenance rather than by selling or subleasing frames.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:27 pm

Seems that LN 133 will be ferried to VCV for paint later today.

http://twitter.com/woody2190/status/608273585170350080

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:12 pm

Does this mean that Boeing will be at 11/month this month?:

"The plant off International Boulevard has been producing at a rate of more than three Dreamliners per month, with production scheduled to increase to roughly four per month beginning this month and then roughly five per month by the end of 2015.

Boeing initially said the North Charleston site would not reach the five-per-month goal until sometime in 2016."
...............
And does this mean that Boeing will deliver the first test 787-10 rather than the 4th like they did with the 789?:

"Wyse said “detailed design is ahead of schedule” and Boeing is on track to deliver its first 787-10 — identified as Line No. 528 at the North Charleston plant — in 2018."

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150609/PC05/150609320

I think the latter is a typo but wanted to see if anyone had better info.

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:47 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 58):
Does this mean that Boeing will be at 11/month this month?:

No, Everett will slow down as Charleston speeds up because of the closing of the surge line.

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 58):
I think the latter is a typo

I'm sure that's right. It's implausible that Boeing would have the flight-test frames refurbished to production standard before production frames are ready.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:36 am

Will building the 787-10 at Charleston make the Everett plant have more 787-8/9s to build in a shorter time frame as at least one of the lines at Charlestown will be filled with the prototypes for some time wouldn't they
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:56 am

I just saw that VN has delayed it's first delivery of the 787 until July 25th changing from June 12th. What is the reasoning behind this, as the plane is already ready for delivery. Wouldn't an airline want to get the plane as quickly as possible?
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:02 am

Quoting jah718 (Reply 61):
What is the reasoning behind this, as the plane is already ready for delivery.

Why would they take delivery of an aircraft that is parked at an air show, that doesn't generate any revenue? The aircraft is now Boeing's responsibility in case the cabin gets damaged during the show.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:38 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 62):
Why would they take delivery of an aircraft that is parked at an air show, that doesn't generate any revenue? The aircraft is now Boeing's responsibility in case the cabin gets damaged during the show.

Yes, but the air show doesn't last more than a month! What about the month in between the air show and delivery?
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:39 am

Kenya Airlines LN 307 is on a B4 flight this morning.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE662
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:49 am

Quoting jah718 (Reply 63):
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 62):
Why would they take delivery of an aircraft that is parked at an air show, that doesn't generate any revenue? The aircraft is now Boeing's responsibility in case the cabin gets damaged during the show.

Yes, but the air show doesn't last more than a month! What about the month in between the air show and delivery?

Money issues maybe? I'm not very familiar with VN, but that's my best guess.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:08 pm

If its any indication, the latest Vietnam Airlines schedule update has it flying on HAN-SGN twice daily starting July 1st.
Based on EIS, the next 5 frames up for delivery are:
> B-2762 (Xiamen) -> June 22nd (FOC-TPE)
> JA861J (JAL) -> July 1st (NRT-CGK)
> VN-A861 (Vietnam Air) -> July 1st (HAN-SGN)
> A6-BLE (Etihad) -> July 6th (AUH-ZRH)
> 9V-OJE (Scoot) -> July 8th (SIN-DMK/KHH-KIX)
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:25 pm

Quoting jah718 (Reply 63):
Yes, but the air show doesn't last more than a month! What about the month in between the air show and delivery?

You're right, I thought I had read June 25 instead of July.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:20 pm

Quoting b787register (Reply 60):
Will building the 787-10 at Charleston make the Everett plant have more 787-8/9s to build in a shorter time frame as at least one of the lines at Charlestown will be filled with the prototypes for some time wouldn't they

Everett will slow down as the surge line closes, and then speed up again as the rate is increased on the main line. It's really a pretty elegant plan. Close the surge line, and Charleston takes up the slack. Take a couple of assembly positions for the first 787-10 frames, and Everett takes up the slack. Once all of that is done, increase the rate.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:29 pm

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 59):
It's implausible that Boeing would have the flight-test frames refurbished to production standard before production frames are ready.

I agree. Must have been a typo.

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:52 pm

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 68):
Everett will slow down as the surge line closes, and then speed up again as the rate is increased on the main line. It's really a pretty elegant plan. Close the surge line, and Charleston takes up the slack. Take a couple of assembly positions for the first 787-10 frames, and Everett takes up the slack. Once all of that is done, increase the rate.

Charleston doesn't get all the surge 787s. They get 2 (goes to 5/month) and the main line in Everett gets 1 (also goes to 5/month).
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:53 pm

ANA LN 310 Finally took its B1 flight.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE409
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:18 pm

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:33 am

A couple of awesome 787 videos:

Boeing produced video of the Vietnam 787 practicing for the PAS 2015:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-w5LW2Mvlc

And another great one... a UAL 789 repositioning from SFO-LAX. Just awesome footage... (and what sterile cockpit?    )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=libn7jEfbtA
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:05 pm

Awesome news ... Looks like the 787 program is finally maturing. It has finally reached 99% dispatch reliability.

http://airwaysnews.com/blog/2015/06/...y-finally-catching-up-with-demand/
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:23 pm

Quoting phxa340 (Reply 74):
It has finally reached 99% dispatch reliability.

The word used is "pushing" 99%... that tells me they're not quite there yet, at least as of November 2014. Still good to see continued improvement.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:21 pm

The article also says more than 99%...

" together with a dispatch reliability finally reaching more than 99 percent after well-publicized teething pains."
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:26 pm

Quoting KPDX (Reply 73):
Boeing produced video of the Vietnam 787 practicing for the PAS 2015

Just spectacular - that aircraft model in that livery is the best looking thing in the sky right now IMO   
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:58 pm

As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) http://nyc787.blogspot.com/ and others for the information that is summarized here.

DELIVERED TO DATE: 284 Aircraft to 32 Airlines & 6 VIPs – 255 787-8 & 29 787-9

DELIVERIES PRIOR TO JUNE: 282
787-8: NH-33; QR-22; JL-21; AI-20; ET-13; UA–12; CZ-10; LA-10; HU-10; BY-9; BA-8; JQ-8; AC-8; DY-8; AM-7; KQ-7; LO-6; AA-6; VIP-5; RJ-5; TG-5; AV-5; BI-4; MF-4; OR-3; J2-2; AT-2; TB-1; KE-1
787-9: UA-6; VS-5; TZ-4; NH-4; NZ-3; EY-2; LA-2; VIP-1

JUNE DELIVERIES TO DATE: 2
L/N 302 – A6-BLD – 6/5/2015 – EY #3 – 787-9
L/N 139 – JA861J – 6/9/2015 – JL #22 – 787-9

ON THE FLIGHTLINE - AIRCRAFT THAT HAVE COMPLETED MAJOR ASSEMBLY & CHANGE INCORPORATION*
L/N 278 – VH-VKJ – ZA223 - JQ #9 – 787-8
L/N 304 – B-2762 – ZA684 – MF #5 - 787-8 (Charleston)
L/N 303 – VN-A861 – ZB536 – VN #1 – 787-9
L/N 307 – 5Y-KZH – ZA662 - KQ #8 – 787-8 (Charleston)
L/N 306 – N806AA – ZA823 – AA #7 – 787-8
L/N 309 - CC-BGC – ZB226 - LA #13 – 787-9 – (AerCap)
L/N 311 - VT-ANV – ZA250 - AI #21 – 787-8
L/N 314 – 9V-OFA – ZA853 – TZ #5 – 787-8 (Charleston)
L/N 310 - JA839A – ZB409 - NH #38 – 787-9 (Charleston)
L/N 286 – A6-BLC – ZB079 – EY #4 – 787-9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 305 – A6-BLE – ZB081 – EY #5 – 787-9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 313 – G-VWHO – ZB032 - VS #6 – 787-9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 312 – JA841J – ZA201 – JL #23 - 787-8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 316 – 9V-OJE – ZB131 – TZ #6 – 787-9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 133 – ZK-NZD – ZB002 - NZ #4 – 787-9 Awaiting first flight post change incorporation
L/N 315 – HB-JJJ – ZA839 – PV #1 – 787-8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 318 – VN-A862 – ZB537 – VN #2 – 787-9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 321 – VH-VKK – ZA224 - JQ #10 – 787-8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 317 – 5Y-KZJ – ZA663 - KQ #9 – 787-8 (Charleston) Awaiting first flight
L/N 323 – C-FNOE – ZB558 – AC #9 – 787-9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 320 – N807AA – ZA824 – AA #8 – 787-8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 326 – N808AN – ZA825 – AA #9 – 787-8 Awaiting first flight

*Not including the delivered aircraft and test aircraft (ZA001-005 & ZB001-002)

Since A-Net hasn’t updated their IATA airline codes in years, please see the following translations:
BY - Thomson Airways (part of TUI Airlines)
DY - Norwegian Air Shuttle
OR – Arke (part of TUI Airlines)
TB – Jetairfly (part of TUI Airlines)
TZ – Scoot
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:07 pm

Virgin Atlantic 787-9 (G-VWHO) had a taxi test earlier.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:10 pm

Scoot's First 787-8 9V-OFA LN314

http://c1.staticflickr.com/1/270/18720390201_fe23776a60_b.jpg9V-OFA by Russell Hill, on Flickr
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:53 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 80):

Wow. I didn't know that Scoot had 787-8's on order. I thought it was strictly the 789
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:10 pm

Quoting 29erUSA187 (Reply 82):
Wow. I didn't know that Scoot had 787-8's on order. I thought it was strictly the 789.

The original order placed by Singapore Airlines was all 787-9, but when they transferred the birds to Scoot they adjusted the mix to both models.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:23 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 79):

Was scheduled for a B1 flight, but only a taxi test was performed.


http://paineairport.com/images/kpae11353.png


http://kpae.blogspot.com/
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:54 pm

Kenya Airlines LN 317 is heading out for its B1 flight.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE663
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:33 pm

North Charleston paint hangers progress:
http://i.imgur.com/oobzgzF.jpg
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:06 pm

Hopefully you didn't take that today with it being 98 outside. Hopefully the flight line guys are keeping cool.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:38 pm

That has to be the most picturesque paint hangar ever.

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:55 pm

Quoting smittythepirate (Reply 87):

I know! 104 on the dew point. I have an air conditioned car, thank god. It's on the coldest settings and it's still not enough. I guess I shouldn't have bought a dark color car.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:00 pm

Quoting WarpSpeed (Reply 88):
That has to be the most picturesque paint hanger ever.

It should be. Charleston is known to the locals and South Carolinians in particular as the "Holy City." It is a beautiful old city with gorgeous coastal areas. Even though I'm from the central part of the state, it is my favorite area.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:02 pm

Quoting karadion (Reply 89):
I know! 104 on the dew point. I have an air conditioned car, thank god. It's on the coldest settings and it's still not enough. I guess I shouldn't have bought a dark color car.

80ish and absolute perfection here in the Seattle area. But the locals, naturally, are whining about how hot it is, because it's not 54 and raining.  I love the East Coast but one thing I don't miss is the summer humidity.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:04 pm

Quoting karadion (Reply 86):
North Charleston paint hangers progress:
Quoting karadion (Reply 86):
That has to be the most picturesque paint hanger ever.

Hangar!!!



[Edited 2015-06-15 13:08:00]
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:17 pm

Quoting karadion (Reply 86):
North Charleston paint hangers progress:

It looks like it should be able to accommodate at least 3 787s
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:31 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 93):
It looks like it should be able to accommodate at least 3 787s

Yep. Makes you think don't it?

Quoting karadion (Reply 86):

Thanks for posting it. Really puts things in perspective.

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:38 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 93):

God no. Just two max. You have to see it from the other side if you're driving to the airport on international. The third paint bay will go up who knows when. Third paint bay is a phase 2 going by the COE Charleston filing.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:56 pm

Quoting karadion (Reply 95):
God no. Just two max. You have to see it from the other side if you're driving to the airport on international. The third paint bay will go up who knows when. Third paint bay is a phase 2 going by the COE Charleston filing.

Cool, thanks so much!
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:05 pm

Quoting karadion (Reply 95):
God no. Just two max. You have to see it from the other side if you're driving to the airport on international. The third paint bay will go up who knows when. Third paint bay is a phase 2 going by the COE Charleston filing.

Is the No. Charleston paint hangar expected to have a higher level of automation than those in Everett?

Quoting karadion (Reply 89):
I know! 104 on the dew point. I have an air conditioned car, thank god. It's on the coldest settings and it's still not enough. I guess I shouldn't have bought a dark color car.

Perhaps, as the summer progresses (i.e. grows hotter and more humid), you could provide construction updates?  

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:30 pm

Quoting WarpSpeed (Reply 97):

Your guess is as good as mine. And yes sure but this building won't be ready until late 2016. There's a ton of projects to do for Boeing South Carolina. Other projects will be the elimination of International Road to the airport, expansion of the 88-30 Final Assembly, 7 UNKNOWN manufacturing buildings, an additional paint bay, tarmac expansion, 4 office admin buildings, and I'm sure there's others I haven't listed. You can see all the phase 1 / phase 2 proposals at the Army Corp of Engineer Boeing Charleston PDF filing on Google.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 43

Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:52 pm

Aeroflot cancels its entire 787 order (22 airplanes).

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...87-purchase-in-boeing-show-setback
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