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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:27 am

Quoting Starbucks (Reply 83):
One reason I can think of is that it might be related to the VS (G-VDIA) engine fire in CHS.Both are equiped with Trent-1000, maybe Boeing/Rolls-Royce found a issue in the Virgin Atlantic engine and they're checking more frames (maybe at BA's request)?Might also suggest why it entered storage.

This was planned for some time IIRC. There has been discussion some weeks ago about BA deliveries being "out of alpha order|" with LN 404 slipped to June 2016 and LN 396 slipped to August 2016 whilst LN 406 was accelerated to March 2016.
Havent heard what was/is planned for these 2 frames but this is not a response to VS engine fire but rather a planned rescheduling.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:07 pm

Pre-assembly of the first 787-10 has commenced.

http://imagr.eu/up/BHULp_CdmCYADVAAAorl9.jpg
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releases-statements?item=129660
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:07 pm

Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner Begins Major Assembly:

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releases-statements?item=129660

And once again Karel beat me to it, by a mere 12 seconds...  Yeah sure

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:53 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 100):
Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner Begins Major Assembly:

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releases-statements?item=129660

And once again Karel beat me to it, by a mere 12 seconds...  

When is the first flight scheduled for the 7810?
 
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Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:07 pm

First flight is scheduled in 2017.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:25 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 99):
Pre-assembly of the first 787-10 has commenced.

Very cool. Let's keep it moving.  

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:03 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 85):

Close-up on that Air Austral 787

Nice to see a "teen" in new paint...first "teen" in new paint since L/N 11 which was over a year ago...and I think that one went out in BBJ white...or maybe even green. Before that was L/N 6 in around September 2014 which I think also left as all white or green. L/N 28 was before that was around May 2014.

This is going to be the year of the teen.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 99):
Pre-assembly of the first 787-10 has commenced.

Yeah!
 
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Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:52 am

I came across this info which may be common knowledge and I have wondered but didn't know, about shoulder room difference between 787 ans350.

At seat base level the 350 is 3" wider, at shoulder level it is 4" wider, and at eye level it is 5" wider. (Found in a 2006 Wikipedia printout of 350)

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:45 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 96):
Quoting VV701 (Reply 95):
The application of an 'experimental' sticker above the Door 1s has happened at least once before to a new BA Boeing aircraft.

It happened on other 787s before as well. Can't remember which one.

The Boeing Production Flight test license allows for production test flights only, The B1 and any following flights to approve that airplane for delivery and any customer acceptance flight. Ferry flights for production paint etc would be included.

All other test flights are non-production and require FAA experimental ticket and FAA approval. Those engineering test flights can be for lots of reasons. New engine software, new IFE software... Basically any engineering test or certification test flight is done on a experimental ticket approved by the FAA for that specific purpose.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:34 pm

Quoting pygmalion (Reply 106):

That's really interesting, thanks for sharing!

Do you know what the reason is that some Boeing aircraft wear a N-reg prior to delivery (to non-US customers) while others have their home rego from the start (eg Australian and other customers' aircraft)?
 
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Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:15 am

Quoting pygmalion (Reply 106):

The Boeing Production Flight test license allows for production test flights only, The B1 and any following flights to approve that airplane for delivery and any customer acceptance flight. Ferry flights for production paint etc would be included.

All other test flights are non-production and require FAA experimental ticket and FAA approval. Those engineering test flights can be for lots of reasons. New engine software, new IFE software... Basically any engineering test or certification test flight is done on a experimental ticket approved by the FAA for that specific purpose.

Close but not entirely correct. If the engineering test is for equipment that will deliver on that airplane, an experimental ticket is not required -- the production ticket is adequate. Another example is photo flights which also don't require an experimental ticket (even though production acceptance work may not be accomplished on the flight).

Ferry flights from PAE to PDX initially required ferry permits and no production work was to be accomplished on them. Fortunately, I believe production work can now be accomplished on paint flights boh from and to PAE and CHS -- not sure if a ferry permit is still required.

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 107):
Do you know what the reason is that some Boeing aircraft wear a N-reg prior to delivery (to non-US customers) while others have their home rego from the start (eg Australian and other customers' aircraft)?

If you provide examples I may be able to provide an answer.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:57 am

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 107):
Do you know what the reason is that some Boeing aircraft wear a N-reg prior to delivery (to non-US customers) while others have their home rego from the start (eg Australian and other customers' aircraft)?

two instances I'm aware of are leased planes from a US leasing company where there are additional whoop de dos prior to delivery. and planes where the delivery takes place in another country.. (don't know how many of the later there are anymore but at one point it was fairly common)
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:47 am

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 108):
Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 107):Do you know what the reason is that some Boeing aircraft wear a N-reg prior to delivery (to non-US customers) while others have their home rego from the start (eg Australian and other customers' aircraft)?
If you provide examples I may be able to provide an answer.

The example that comes most easily to mind is all of the Qantas and Virgin Australia B738s... they always wear their Australian registration throughout all their Bx and Cx flight testing. There was also a photo in the database in the last few days of a B737 (I think) undergoing a flight test but with its home country rego already applied.

Quoting kanban (Reply 109):
two instances I'm aware of are leased planes from a US leasing company where there are additional whoop de dos prior to delivery. and planes where the delivery takes place in another country.. (don't know how many of the later there are anymore but at one point it was fairly common)

The latter of your examples seems to happen quite often with Airbus aircraft which are being delivered to a leasing company (when I've seen it happen they've been British and Irish leasing companies), and where the leasing company is immediately delivering the aircraft to an airline customer. The contractual handover is done in TLS / XFW and the aircraft is then flown by Airbus pilots into British or Irish airspace where it is further delivered to the operating airline before being flown back to TLS / XFW.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:21 pm

Most BA Boeing manufactured aircraft operate their Bx and Cx flights painted with their future British registration.

The above was true for all eight BA 787-8s so far delivered. They made their B1 flight while painted in the G-ZBJA to 'JH registration sequence.

This also applied to the first six 787-9s. They were painted in the registration sequence G-ZBKA to 'KF at the time of their B1 flight.

However not one of these fourteen aircraft were placed on the British register until either the day before or the actual day of their delivery flight out of PAE.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:54 pm

Quoting VV701 (Reply 111):
Most BA Boeing manufactured aircraft operate their Bx and Cx flights painted with their future British registration.

For the most part all painted Boeing aircraft fly with the customer registration if they are on a production ticket.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:12 am

The latest for LAN leaving for CHS.

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Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:15 pm

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:11 pm

Per allthings787 we have a delivery flight of:

Line 408 ZB414 43871 JA877A 787-9 ANA

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ANA9397

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:55 pm

The latest 789 for Air Canada. Boeing 564 cleared for the second of two touch and goes before heading back to CHS.

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Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:43 pm

787 Firing order has been updated:

[Edited 2016-03-22 11:46:59]
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Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:44 pm

Boeing 564 taxiing out for a departure and 2 touch and goes before heading back to CHS.

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:48 pm

The first flight of the T1000-ten took place this week.

http://www.rolls-royce.com/products-...s/trent-1000/programme-update.aspx
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:07 pm

Quoting lowbank (Reply 119):
The first flight of the T1000-ten took place this week.

I thought the Trent TEN was supposed to enter service this year. Has that changed?

tortugamon
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:38 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 120):
I thought the Trent TEN was supposed to enter service this year. Has that changed?

Delayed until 2017 per Rolls-Royce: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...787-engine-upgrade-to-2017-423434/
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:43 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 121):
Delayed until 2017 per Rolls-Royce: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...787-engine-upgrade-to-2017-423434/

Thanks


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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Fri Mar 25, 2016 5:53 pm

Virgin's latest, G-VDIA is en-route to LHR, due around 2100L as VIR827P

http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/GVDIA
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:11 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 117):

You're sure the KLM will be PH-BHJ?

Untill now KLM always skipped the "J" in the fleet, you won't find any
PH-BFJ
-AOJ
-KZJ
-BQJ
-BVJ
-EZJ
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or
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:20 am

LN 13 has been spotted outside the EMC
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1510/25481397173_fcf279b9bf_b.jpgBoeing 787-8 C/N 34492 / LN 13 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1442/25479218564_97ae6e48c2_b.jpgBoeing 787-8 C/N 34492 / LN 13 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:09 pm

Chris of Woodys Aero Images also picked up some excellent images of LNs 15, 16, 17, and 18, including this one of LN 17 that shows some imaginative work by the taping crew:

Boeing 787-8 Dreanliner - C/N 35507 / LN 17 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

LN 13 looks like much of the work is done, and 15 looks well along in the process. 16 and 17 are clearly in the thick of active rework. Only 18 looks like not much may have happened.

Still waiting to see LN 12 and 14 emerge from 40-24 with rework complete. One of them will have to emerge very soon if it is to be delivered to Ethiopian in June, as the airline's published schedule currently anticipates.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:35 pm

Quoting oly720man (Reply 123):
Virgin's latest, G-VDIA is en-route to LHR, due around 2100L as VIR827P

Isn't that the frame that had to be repaired after the engine fire?
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:38 pm

Quoting oly720man (Reply 123):

Virgin's latest, G-VDIA is en-route to LHR, due around 2100L as VIR827P

http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/GVDIA

I got a few (very poor quality) pics of that one taking off while I was waiting to board a DL flight to JFK. I thought it was just another test flight, so thanks for letting me know what departure I was seeing!
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:20 pm

Per allthings 787 and flightaware we have a delivery flight of line:

401 ZB037 37976 G-VBZZ 787-9 Virgin Atlantic Airways

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR825

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:16 pm

I see from Matt Cawby's site that another BA789 is being prepared for storage. How many of BA's 789s are being stored, and for how long?

Is there any info as to when BA will exercise options on the three extra 788s? Is there any info on a likely delivery date?
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:18 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 130):
I see from Matt Cawby's site that another BA789 is being prepared for storage. How many of BA's 789s are being stored, and for how long?

Is there any info as to when BA will exercise options on the three extra 788s? Is there any info on a likely delivery date?

Lemme guess, they're having seat delay issues with Zodiac?   
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:57 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 130):
How many of BA's 789s are being stored, and for how long?

Two, and for an unknown amount of time. Last I heard they were still trying for delivery of both in April but if they are bothering to tape up BKH and move it to 11/29 then that seems unrealistic.

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 131):
Lemme guess, they're having seat delay issues with Zodiac

  
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:31 pm

Soooo line 11... I've brought it up before, but it's now been a year since line 11 was "delivered" to Moses Lake. What's going on with this frame? Is it getting work done or just sitting in storage? Is Moses Lake even equipped to do VIP type work? Why did Boeing rush to get this terrible teen out so early, when there's seemingly little urgency to get it into service now?

Someone has to know something...

[Edited 2016-03-30 15:32:06]
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:53 am

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 131):
Lemme guess, they're having seat delay issues with Zodiac?   


Yes there is a issue with the seats and the supply of them.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:59 am

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 126):
Still waiting to see LN 12 and 14 emerge from 40-24 with rework complete.

LN 12 rolled out last night with engines

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1449/26054069332_eee9afa6a2_b.jpgBoeing 787-8 Dreamliner - C/N 34505 / LN 12 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

also LAN CC-BGK LN 426 rolled out and was towed into the paint hangar

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1679/26146540085_17e1c0f9d6_b.jpgCC-BGK LAN Airlines Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner - C/N 38474 / LN 426 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1667/26054056272_7c9f43499a_b.jpgCC-BGK LAN Airlines Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner - C/N 38474 / LN 426 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:53 pm

Quoting boefan (Reply 135):
also LAN CC-BGK LN 426 rolled out and was towed into the paint hangar

Judging by the tail, it looks like she'll roll out of the paint shop with the new LATAM livery,
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:07 pm

Quoting BiggerJetsPlz (Reply 133):
Soooo line 11... I've brought it up before, but it's now been a year since line 11 was "delivered" to Moses Lake. What's going on with this frame? Is it getting work done or just sitting in storage? Is Moses Lake even equipped to do VIP type work? Why did Boeing rush to get this terrible teen out so early, when there's seemingly little urgency to get it into service now?

It's undergoing VIP interior fitting at Greenpoint.

I believe that LN 11 was delivered to Korean instead of LN 5 once Transaero canceled its order because Korean was the only early-frame customer that was ready to take delivery of a frame so soon. When Transaero canceled, LN 11 was already well into the rework process. Upon Transaero's cancellation, work on LN 11 continued but work on LN 5, which had been inside the EMC, abruptly stopped (and has not restarted since).

[Edited 2016-03-31 09:10:50]
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:12 pm

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 136):
Judging by the tail, it looks like she'll roll out of the paint shop with the new LATAM livery,

This was known for a while now:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 93):
It seems LAN LN 426 will feature the new LATAM livery.

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:39 am

Did not want to start a separate thread for this so posting here...

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ilots-of-bad-airspeed-data-423735/

Quote:
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:17 am

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:16 am

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 140):
First 787-9 for HU:

Great picture, the 787-9 is georgous. Can't wait to see the first -1000.
 
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Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:00 am

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:38 am

The bottom one (240 seats) is line 315 that was for PrivatAir .
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:46 pm

could the other one be Michael Dell's aircraft N28MS?
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:51 pm

Looks like Dreamlifter N747BC (operating as GTI4532) is returning to PAE within an hour of departing for CHS. She did a U-turn north of Moses Lake and is now lining up for a southbound approach.

[Edited 2016-04-13 07:52:04]
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:11 pm

Reported on another forum that Ethiopian "teen" 787-8 LN 12 is scheduled to fly next week.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - Part 47

Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:08 pm

LN004 took a round-trip from BFI this morning as BOE784. Looks like around a 90 minute trip out to the coast of the Olympic Peninsula and then back.

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