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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:31 pm

Quoting 14ccKemiskt (Reply 48):
A 60s aircraft for the 2010s? Not sure if it is going to survive very long. But for now, it will do.

With a total of 2831 MAX orders, out of a total of 12,900 total 737 orders (inc MAX) it would seem the 737 is timeless.

For comparison the A320NEO has 3,621 orders out of a total of 11,829 for the whole 320 family.

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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:38 pm

Quoting AS512 (Reply 51):
Wouldn't the mains need to sit higher to account for the larger engines?

No, they slung them FWD and up to gain the additional clearance - similar to the 787.
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:23 am

Quoting Ruscoe (Reply 12):
completely new rear fuselage on all models,

Of course, forgot to mention the 787 like tail cone that's been added. It's actually an extension of sorts, no?
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:53 am

What is the aircraft code for the MAX8 and MAX9? Are they going to stick with 73H, 73J?
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:51 am

Quoting mel (Reply 55):

No. It will be B737 B738 B739
Quoting AS512 (Reply 51):

No, only the front wheel has been raised.

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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:49 am

Quoting ODwyerPW (Reply 54):
Of course, forgot to mention the 787 like tail cone that's been added. It's actually an extension of sorts, no?

I think it is more than an extension, because you need to blend the vertical sides of the rear fuselage of the NG with the round tail cone of the MAX.

I think we will have to wait until we get some side pictures, to see how extensive the changes are.

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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:48 am

Quoting liftsifter (Reply 39):

Did they at least raise the window line so that, you know, you can actually look out the window... One of my biggest pet peeves with the 737, besides the narrow and short cabin.

Same here. The Sky Interiors do a great job though with opening the windows up (so to speak) - and they're so much better than the pinholes on the A32X, but the window line needs to be raised by 3-4 inches to maximise its utility.

Quoting barney captain (Reply 47):
The -700NG has a 1% nose down stance, the MAX will sit at 0%. I don't believe the overall height will change.

A shame. For the longer versions, especially the -9, I think this will give it a sloping look towards the back, an optical illusion but an unfortunate one. Like the -400 was kinda ungainly looking.
 
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:16 pm

Honestly I don't notice any differences at all. I suppose the increased range is probably caused by other factors.
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:32 pm

It seems Boeing also doesn't see the difference of the MAX to the current family as that big, as they continue the line numbering system with l/n 5602, while when they started the NG they restarted with l/n 1, the classics had a separate run of l/n 1 to 3132. I actually expected them to restart with l/n 1 again separately from the NG's.
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:16 pm

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 60):
It seems Boeing also doesn't see the difference of the MAX to the current family as that big, as they continue the line numbering system with l/n 5602, while when they started the NG they restarted with l/n 1, the classics had a separate run of l/n 1 to 3132. I actually expected them to restart with l/n 1 again separately from the NG's.

The MAX does have a fair bit more in common with the NG then the NG did with the Classic, so that might have played a role. Much as the 747-8 continued with the next highest line number from the 747-400.

Be interesting to know if Boeing restarts line numbers with the 777X as that is more like NG to Classic since it incorporates a new wing and such.
 
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:06 am

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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:42 am

Why is there is a window plug 4 slots forward of the wing?
 
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:03 pm

Nice to see new pics of the MAX.
Too bad we can't see the APU inlet. I always thought the inlet was a hot mess aerodynamically, the inlet guide vane has to be a large source of drag.

It looks like the inlet has possibly relocated.
In the below video from Boeing, If you look at the UHD models used in all of Boeings promotional images you can't really locate the inlet on the MAX but it's clearly visible on the UHD models of the 737-NG.

http://youtu.be/Ge_mwqXxdPg

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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:44 pm



Quoting OKCFlyer (Reply 64):
Why is there is a window plug 4 slots forward of the wing?

I don't know why, but this window is always plugged


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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:48 pm

Quoting queb (Reply 66):
Quoting OKCFlyer (Reply 64):
Why is there is a window plug 4 slots forward of the wing?

I don't know why, but this window is always plugged

It's not plugged, there's no window there at all due to air ducts (IIRC).
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:49 pm

Quoting OKCFlyer (Reply 64):
Why is there is a window plug 4 slots forward of the wing?
Quoting queb (Reply 66):
I don't know why, but this window is always plugged

It is not plugged, there is no window there. That is where an A/C duct is I believe, and the window is absent from the 737-300 onwards. The -100/-200 had smaller ducts that went between the windows.
 
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:13 pm

Amazing aircraft! I doubt anybody at Boeing 50 years ago when they first began designing a small short range jet intended to serve smaller airports ever envisioned it's growth. That it would still be a relevant aircraft in the 2010s-20s would have been unbelievable!

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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:01 am

Quoting polot (Reply 34):

The renderings of first class look nice. I wonder if they found a cleaner looking solutions for the rafts for etops birds; the Sky interior makes it look like an awful afterthought on UA's Hawaii 737s.
 
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:10 am

Quoting SLCGuy (Reply 71):

no we didn't, but then again we thought the 727 would never go out of production either.
 
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:24 am

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 22):
The NGs had more of a nose-down attitude to the Classics, and looked the better for it.

Agree, for some reason that looks good on any Aircraft, especially the B764
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RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:57 am

Quoting JHwk (Reply 72):
The renderings of first class look nice. I wonder if they found a cleaner looking solutions for the rafts for etops birds; the Sky interior makes it look like an awful afterthought on UA's Hawaii 737s.

any links of fotos? I've not seen an ETOPs certified 737NG w/ sky interior and the rafts..
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